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Did Coldplay rip off Joe Satriani?

Dec 5, 2008, 04:37 PM | by Simon Vozick-Levinson

Categories: British things, Double Vision, Music

Coldplay have been called many things, but Joe Satriani wannabes? That's a new one, and it's apparently what the chrome-domed axe man himself is claiming in a new lawsuit. Satriani accuses Coldplay of ganking the riff from his 2004 instrumental "If I Could Fly" for their hit single "Viva La Vida." (A representative for the band hasn't replied to our request for a comment.) Anyway, let's go to the tapes....

I'm no intellectual property lawyer, and I don't really believe in suing people over melodic similarities, but I'll be damned if Satriani's screamin' riff starting around 00:50 in the first clip doesn't sound extremely familiar. That said, this is a pretty elementary combination of notes. If anything, I think Coldplay's members are most likely guilty of writing a boring major-chord tune in an attempt to make a hit. But you tell me — do you think Satriani has a point?

(Meanwhile, if this whole thing feels like déjà vu, you're not crazy. As Wook recalled yesterday, Coldplay were previously accused of stealing the "Viva La Vida" tune from a random indie act called Creaky Boards back in June; Coldplay vehemently denied that charge at the time.)

More on Coldplay and suspiciously similar music:
Coldplay is one of EW's 2008 Entertainers of the Year
They gave EW a sneak preview of Viva La Vida back in May
EW.com got an exclusive glimpse of one of bassist Guy Berryman's sketches
2002's A Rush of Blood to the Head is one of EW's New Music Classics
EW took a look at a few other soundalike songs in 2006


Thorn Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 09:44 AM EST

Keep in mind people, before hating on any musicians, that its the money grabbing record companies who call these shots. I doubt whether Joe could give a damn.

Joe Chicken Sarnie Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 02:33 PM EST

Check the following for side-by-side music comparisons:

http://gawker.com/5103189/joe-satriani-sues-coldplay-for-ownership-of-years-most-annoying-melody

Joe Chicken Sarnie Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 02:11 PM EST

I often teased my sister for liking Coldplay by calling them Blandplay. I don't despise them. I simply cannot get into their middle-of-the-road music. Listening to them on the car radio is fine. But I wouldn't buy it.

It would be interesting to know if any wannabe teenage rock guitarist played the 'I Wanna Fly' melody to their friends who were also Coldplay fans. How many would applaud them for mistakenly believing they were hearing a rocked-up version of 'Viva la Vida'?

I get the 'can't copyright chord progression' rule, but the melody is too similar to dismiss. Whether you like him or not, if he retracts his claim then it's open season for (c)rappers everywhere to butcher every song ever recorded.

And to all Coldplay fans: As a bass player who enjoys playing guitar ocassionally and is a big fan of Joe Satriani. Not all fans are as over-zealous and childish as some of the 'Joe is best' and 'Coldplay are rubbish' comments on this page make us out to be.

JPMBZ Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM EST

If you don't think cold play ripped of Joe, watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEGGFJLpbu4

Vivian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:57 PM EST

I was just curious about this to-do about who stole what song, so I came here. I listened to the Satriani music and I love Viva la Vida by Coldplay, which won't play here, so there's no side-by-side at this site that I could get to play. Though I heard some chords that were similar, the songs sound completely different to me. Actually, perhaps Satriani should hope that Billy Joel doesn't sue him over the heavy background guitar toward the end because it sure reminds me of the background guitar in A Matter of Trust, a song I love, so I just thought I'd throw that in. As far as Coldplay and Satriani go, those are two completely different song styles. Apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned.

seven Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 06:51 PM EST

I'm not here to hate. I'm not for or against Coldplay or Satch. However, I must admit these songs sound very similar. Whether Coldplay intentially copied it or if Joe is just doing this for attention is up for debate. But I must say that Satriani is definately not a nobody. you would know that if you listened to more than what you heard on the radio. Also, winning a grammy doesn't mean squat. Milli Vanilli won a Grammy didn't they?

midniteryder Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 05:20 PM EST

FYI, campers, Satch taught Vai how to play. He was also giving guitar lessons to others before he started his career. Washed up? Don't think so- his only peers are Vai, Eddie Van Halen (his early days), Yngwie Malmsteen, and the late Randy Rhodes. Coldplay may have won some Grammys, but their style of music is the junk-food of the industry- pop schlock that is here today, gone tomorrow. Bailey is obviously so far off base it isn't funny. HAng around a few years, Junior, and then you'll have a decent opinion.

craig Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 03:42 PM EST

some parts are similar, but I highly doubt it was a complete rip off. A musical influence at best but definatley not Satriani's song. The cold play song is way better orchestrated and is much less cheesey too.

satchbacker Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 01:20 PM EST

Bailey has no idea what he/she is talking about. Joe has had 15 Grammy nom. and who cares if he hasn't won. I'd rather the respect of my peers then the votes of under aged teenie boppers that haven't the slightest clue on what real music is anyway. I'm a big fan of Joe Satriani and don't mind Coldplay as well. Let's just see if Coldplay is still putting out CD's in 20 years or getting back together cause they haven't got any money left tour. I will comment about Bailey with the 517 characters I have left but only need 5 letters.

Bailey = Idiot

Larry Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 04:08 AM EST

if you think this is plagiarism... check this out... compare the care - chandelliers to orange and lemons - pinoy ako... just search them both and compare... this orange and lemons (pinoy band) copied the whole song except the the lyrics... that means they copied the riffs melodies accent... everything... orange and lemons claimed that they didnt copied... they said it was all original

theatersofsouls Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:22 PM EST

joe's one of the greatest talents this world could ever muster...
there would be no kirk hammet of metallica and steve vai and no g3...
hell dream theater would not be known... malmsteen, petrucci, vai, romeo, batio, satriani... shawn lane.. they are the back bones of the mainstream musicians right now...

Bailey Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 07:15 PM EST

Satriani is just some washed-up musician who'll do anything to get in the news. This album has been out since June 2008, and several other people have already pointed the finger at Coldplay and insisted that they ripped off their own music. All these claims were proved entirely false. Satriani is just like you and me and the rest of the world...he's envious that he couldn't come up with a this brilliant genius masterpiece of a song. I've compared the two, and really is ridiculous. Besides, "Viva La Vida" fits right in with the rest of the album, so Coldplay would be ripping off Satriani for the entire album, no? Really, this will not end well for Satriani. Besides, I find it hilarious that despite this claim Coldplay STILL won Song of the Year at the Grammys. Man, I love them.

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dude Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM EST

dude you gotta be kidding...
i bet i can find tons of songs with similar chords or teenie bit of melody... duh...!

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matt Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 02:33 PM EST

ok i didn't take the time to read every comment, to annoyed by a few that i have read. Satch is no "nobody" anyone with any knowlegde of music knows who he is and knows he is responsible for vai and hammett. Also its not just the chord progression. The chorus vocal is the same as joe's lead line in the what would be "chorus" of If i could fly. like it has been said, intentional maybe not. should they ve held accountable. Definately. and yeah you hear so much that something is bound to regurgitate eventually as an artist, not much left out there to do and be original. On the other hand its hard to believe as alike as they are, that it was unintentional, but im never intentionally caught doing anything....

CHARLIE STOAKES Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:54 AM EST

coldplay sucks! they only got famose because of an ipod commercial. now theyre ripping off other artists?!?!? screw them!!!!!

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steve vai Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 07:28 PM EST

You go Joe. By the way, The Killers ripped me off ... I wrote an instumental called Haywood Jablome and the Killers stole it and called it Are We Human

Sweetintox Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:34 PM EST

Coldplay do not deserve a Grammy for a tune that someone else wrote. If melody isnt important in terms of copywrite, then we may as well just change the words of sons and call them our own. Come on guys anyone can hear this is the same tune. Whether Coldplay did it purposefully or not is another matter all together. Sattriani daserves the royalties from this song. As for the Grammy, who gives a @~## its a bull**@@ award anyways.

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jc Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:27 PM EST

...also, you cannot copyright a chord progression. Musicians would be s.o.l. if you could. Here's another example: "R.O.C.K. in the USA" "What I like about you" and "On the Dark Side" to name a very few songs with similar chord structures.

jc Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:09 PM EST

If Coldplay stole from Satriani, then they both stole from Chris Rea ("Fool if you think it's over" 1978.) Musicians have heard a lot of music in their lifetimes, not to mention the incidental stuff on tv, etc. The stuff gets in and comes back out. I think only insecure, desperate musicians go off when they think someone copied them. (Neil Sedaka didn't try to sue Nora Jones because her song "Don't know why" used changes from his song "Laughter in the Rain." Just an example - it happens all the time.)

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Dimitri Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:19 PM EST

I wouldnt call Coldplay's song boring by a longshot. It was obviously good enough to win song of the year. If nobody really knew who Satriani was before this then i dont think it's the biggest deal in the world.

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Atomic Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 08:15 PM EST

Satriani definately has a case. Your talk about the combination of notes...OK, but the feel and phrasing is exactly the same. It is me understanding the singer wasn't even in the studio while the backing tracks were being laid down. So elementry thing tells me that the guitarist is probably the one who ripped of Joe. At any rate, dues definately need to be paid, and why not add another Grammy for the song to Joe Satrinai.

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Chuck Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 06:08 PM EST

Geez..sounds to me like Cold Play will be getting their grammy repo'd. I've tried listening to this group on many occasions and I just can't get into their music. But I did catch a show on PBS when they were performing at Austin City Limits. That was a good show. Joe is possibly the BEST guitarist I've ever heard. I think Cold Play ripped him off and I think they knew exactly what they were doing when they did it. I've been reading up on them and it seems that this isn't the 1st or 2nd time this has happened. I doubt this will ruin them WHEN Joe wins his case, but I bet it forces Cold Play to actualyy start writing their very own sh*t. Thieving B@st@rds!

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leo Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 09:53 PM EST

After having heard both licks, coldplay is busted.

brotha Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:09 PM EST

I have no doubt that cold play has heard satch's music as he is by far the most talented guitarist ever.Now there busted and gonna have to pay.I hope they win the grammy and satch takes it from them.

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1Ice1 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 07:09 PM EST

You idiots need to watch the guitar teacher break both songs down AS A REAL MUSICIAN AND MUSIC TEACHER. He breaks down each song fairly, and guess what? Yeah it's a rip off.

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GuitaRat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:21 PM EST

This is a sore subject, might as well sue every song writer that ever wrote a tune. The progression is very similar but it is the melody that sets them apart. Here is an idea... someone should patent the 1 4 5 and they can sue everyone. Give me a break! I could see if it were samplings of Joes stuff straight from his CD, then yes, sue. Just like the old rap days when they were sampling Van Halen.
Cant we all just enjoy the music, that is what its all about. I am tired of Law suits.

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