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Everett Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:09 AM EST

This is totally messed up and tax/spend is the way this gets done now. This is not a stimulus package at all ... its tax and spend again.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/how-the-stimulus-bill-could-affect-you.aspx?gt1=33010

Everett Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 08:39 AM EST

Well, here we go and making sense of all of this will take a boat load of reading. The Stimulus Package ...

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/STIMULUS_FINAL_0217.html

Everett Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 08:59 PM EST

Now that Obama is the Prez, let's track pomises kept ... here is a site doing just that and he made OVER 500 promises during his bid.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

Miss Sassy Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 03:07 PM EST

Everett, you're right, and it's the same everywhere. It's not what you know, but who you know, and how much money they have.

Everett Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:31 PM EST

It really doesnt matter what you or I think about all of this. All of this is in the hands of corrupt politicians and people of power who ignore the Constitution at random for whatever purposes to gain to their ends. The election this year has been one of the craziest I have seen on state and federal levels in many years. I do think it is atypical politics requiring me to do all I have to do for job requirements and yt those on the highest levels slide into positions due to political power and money. "We the People" are merely governmental sheep any more and fleeced to pay their ways into power and wealth.

Miss Sassy Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:50 AM EST

Doesn't matter. Obama's still going to be President. Thank God. Happy New Year.

Everett Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM EST

Sassy, I thought all of this was over but apparently something is still going on with Berg's Writ in the SCOTUS: http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2240

I dont have a clue.

Miss Sassy Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:17 AM EST

You're lucky, Everett. But most people cannot say the same as you and their income is determined by the President, especially if he's giving tax breaks to companies who send our jobs overseas. You're fortunate that your job was not sent overseas, but thousands of people in this country are suffering because theirs were. And the President is just as much to blame as the Senate and Congress for this mess because let's not forget that the President has that little power called VETO.

Everett Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:20 AM EST

As for better off with Bush, it is not him that made me make more this year in total true gross income than any previous year, it was work ethic and the job. I earn my living by merit not a president in office and we get taxed enough. I paid over 10K in taxes and benefits this year and am Middle Class to Upper Middle Class, so whoever is in office doesnt determine my income. It would be nice, owever, if Congress had to live like the rest of us instead of milking the country for all its worth at our expense.

Everett Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:14 AM EST

The sad thing about politics is the greed involved. I have two copies of my birth record one is of the long form with all the details ... parents, workplaces, county, hospital, etc and the other is the general computer generated one both are embossed with seals. No details from a long form is always going to be in question with either McCain, Obama or the other person that was part of these Writs. Just like Bush, they got in who they wanted and politics is full of greed while our Constitution keeps being trampled uponno matter who is in office anymore. The House and Senate run this country more than a president, who merely is a figurehead most of the time. I voted for Bush and most of what he did was a failure to our people in this country. About the only thing he will be remembered for is the capture of Saddam and the eventual hanging. The restructuring of Iraq has been atypical capitzalism more than democracy.

Miss Sassy Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 07:52 AM EST

Everett, our political system has already failed us miserably. Look what Bush did to our country. Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago? Is anyone, other than the super wealthy? I wish someone had made a greater effort to keep that man out of the Oval Office like they are for Obama. Because let me tell ya, Everett, Bush has absolutely no ethics or morals and destroyed this country. How did someone like that end up our President???? We could do a hell of a lot worse than Obama. We already did.

Everett Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 07:01 PM EST

How could this happen and why? How could our system fail us? That is about all I can think of, really. I have spent most of my life promoting ethical behavior, fairness and honorable work ethic.

Miss Sassy Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:17 AM EST

Everett, if Obama were to be proven not eligible to be President, what would you say to that?

Everett Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:04 PM EST

I read the yahoo article and please note ... no one was under oath. If an impeachment happens, then an investigation has to take place. The Dems and Obama are asking the IL Gov to resign but isnt it interesting? Impeachment will require investigation and who knows where that will lead. The article really doesnt close the matter and if there is an investigation then it might get ugly.

Everett Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:05 AM EST

Actually, I was totally calm and relating where I am in the world of diversity. I view people by the merits of their work ethic and just their ethics in how they act daily. We know a lot of goofballs are out there in the workplace. My comment about liberals is a general reflection of how it is in any differing opinion vs conservative types. I have a very close friend who is very liberal but he knows me and I know him very close. We have spoke about much of the issues you and I have discussed ... we dont agree on some of the issues, but he knows fully that I am not a racist type. I abhor racist types and their total ignorance. The lawsuits issue ... they were questioning more than Obama's citizenship, they were questioning McCain's and one other person as well, if I recall. The "no comment" from the SCOTUS is interesting, however.

Miss Sassy Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:40 PM EST

Oh, Everett, settle down. I'm not a "liberal" I just think you're buying into this anti-Obama stuff WAAAAAYYYY too much. And it disturbs me that you're not seeing through the ulterior motives of these pathetic lawsuits. Also, the IL Governor thing is pretty much a non-issue.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081215/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama
Obama: Review shows no inappropriate contact

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:40 PM EST

You assume far too much. I am not an Obama hater, racist, conspiracy theorist, blind nor deaf ... Stop accusing me of this being hate or anything else. My whole issue has been the Constitution and IF Obama fits the qualification. You liberal types think throwing out attacks on a person somehow is valid logic but in fact is a fallacy committed ... also being rude seems to the the norm by liberals Ive seen on TV like Letterman. Always the same ... a conservative questions things, he/she is a nut BUT let a liberal question anything and it is heresy to refute it.

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:32 PM EST

I have no clue all the legalities of the denial's but have to look about at the lawyer sites because Im not a lawyer.

Whatever the case pending or not, the IL Gov thing is another issue with multiple Chicago Players in the mix and the Chicago Machine at its best.

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:26 PM EST

Took a bit of digging but the stay has been denied but the conference on the Writ has not, as far as I can find thus far.

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz: SCOTUS Denies Application for Stay/Injunction
December 15th, 2008
The Supreme Court orders denied Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz application for staying the election as well as requesting that the Court would grant an injunction disallowing the Electoral College to hold its vote today until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be finally determined:

08A469

WROTNOWSKI, CORT V. BYSIEWICZ, CT SEC. OF STATE

The application for stay and/or injunction addressed

to Justice Scalia and referred to the Court is denied.

Miss Sassy Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:08 PM EST

Re: Chicago Tribune article
So? It says "The revelation does not suggest Obama's new gatekeeper was involved in any talk of dealmaking involving the seat." What's your point, Everett? You an Obama hater too?

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:51 AM EST

Here is another interesting exchange on the COLB with apparently two conservives? Dated 12/10/08:

http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/2008/12/10/jefferson-and-obama%E2%80%99s-birth-certificate-my-reply-to-michael-gaynor/

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:27 AM EST

I wonder why? Condemnation by association and revelation by investigation? Oh, this is so biased, right?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rahm-obama13dec13,0,3359611.story

Emanuel, who has long been close to both Blagojevich and Obama, has refused to respond to questions about any involvement he may have had with the Blagojevich camp over the Senate pick. A spokeswoman for Emanuel also declined to comment Friday.

One source confirmed that communications between Emanuel and the Blagojevich administration were captured on court-approved wiretaps.

Miss Sassy Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:49 AM EST

Not turning a blind eye to it, everett. Just pointing out that you have to consider the source before you buy into the information. The business with the IL Governor has nothing to do with Obama. And everyone's all riled up over this guy like he's the first corrupt politician to walk the planet. His nonsense is business as usual in the world of politics, he just got caught. But you really need to give it up about the citizenship thing. Nobody's ever going to get anywhere with that, it's just a bunch of anti-Obama people grasping at straws in a lame attempt to keep him out of office. Why can't you see that?

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:45 AM EST

More ... pg 64 includes the IL Gov talking about Obama and his seat. Not really nice language used by the Gov. Impeachment is in the works for the IL Gov and that in itself will be a grand investigation process.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/12/9/13562/8880

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 09:43 AM EST

Wall Street Journal Washington Wire ... biased reporting? Well, seems others are getting involved besides the Chicago Tribune.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/12/14/the-real-story-behind-the-rushed-blagojevich-bust-how-the-feds-are-frustrated-by-losing-maybe-half-of-their-case/

Everett Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 09:25 AM EST

Sorry, Fox interviewed Chicago Tribune people and that was the only place I could find anything. I suppose it was bias that the Tribune had threats to fire Tribune people by those reporting this IL gov info? This IL gov issue is a big problem and heads are going to roll over this and those associated with it. The cases are still pending with the Writs in the hands of the US Supreme Court as well, OH and OK both are asking for some proof of the birt record. Main stream is not reporting much because they are shocked over the IL Gov issue as well. Say what you want, it isnt bias concerning the IL Gov and there are FBI wiretaps involved. This isnt me, it's investigation into problems for Obama. You dsire to turn a blind eye to this but the Chicago Tribune? Come on that is his home newspaper involved and the list goes on. There are both Dems and Republicans involved in the IL Gov scandel.

Miss Sassy Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 07:53 AM EST

Everett, the only reason "this isn't going away" is because you're getting your conservatively biased information from FoxNews. Please, Everett, find a useful application for your time. Obama is a natural born citizen. He's going to be President. Deal with it.

Everett Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:42 AM EST

This is just not going away ...

http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/21655404/guilt_by_association.htm

Everett Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:40 AM EST

Ouch ... and the list goes on!

http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/21655473/obama_connection.htm

Everett Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM EST

Why in the whole issue of all of this is there no main stream media reports of some of the details correctly brought forth? Why would there be no reports of the issue of the NJ Writ being still part of the issue in all of this until after the CT Writ? The NJ case is still pending depite the lack of correct reporting by the main stream.

Everett Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM EST

You should watch this news clip from Fox News in Chicago. Not a good thing to see with the Gov of IL and Obama involved somehow.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8054792&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Everett Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 07:05 PM EST

[UPDATE]: 11:26 AM - Dec. 12 2008 : Rumors of a decision denying Cort’s application are unequivocally false. A SCOTUS Spokesperson just told Cort Wrotnowski there has been no decision. She indicated there will be no decision until Monday. The conference is sealed, no clerks are allowed in.]

Everett Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 07:02 PM EST

Nothing is over until it is over and it isnt over yet ...

the SCOTUS has not denied Donofrio’s NJ case, only his request for a stay while they confer over the Wrotnowski, CT case, Dec. 12.

Everett Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:40 PM EST

I just saw this today and dont know the whole of it but interested in what is happening:

COLUMBUS — A state lawmaker is urging Electoral College members to confirm the president-elect’s citizenship before casting their ballots next week.

Rep. Diana Fessler, a Republican from west-central Ohio, offered a joint resolution Thursday, during the House’s nonvoting session, calling on electors “to exercise due diligence to ensure that the persons for whom they cast their ballots for president and vice president of the United States are citizens of the United States.”

Miss Sassy Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:06 PM EST

If the Supreme Court won't hear this case, chances are none of the cases will succeed either. People need to give this up and find better uses for their time.

Everett Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:33 AM EST

This is a separate issue and has nothing to do with the Writ's. I read this concern among liberal's on the issue of reversal with promises made during the election and Obama. Im curious about the political effects this may bring.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16292.html

Everett Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 09:49 AM EST

Here is the doc case pending:

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm

Everett Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 09:47 AM EST

Wrotnowksi v. Connecticut Secretary of State is still pending as an emergency application resubmitted to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia as of last Tuesday.

Everett Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 09:35 AM EST

The NJ Writ, but not the others todate. Berg's is still pending. I dont think Thomas had an agenda, but I read a blog and they had a point in the matter. Here is the site:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6734

I had to read the whole thing to get their point and passed the blather, as usual.

Miss Sassy Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 09:11 AM EST

Well, the issue has been resolved.
Court: No review of Obama's eligibility to serve
WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.
Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.
But Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the state's registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.

Everett Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 07:19 PM EST

I totally agree we need less conflicts in the world. Problem is that greed, power and sex has been the major three areas causing conflict in and throughout the world in all of history to present. I saw various newspaper articles (Chicago Tribune just one) concerning surprise over this whole issue and an open letter to Obama. None of this is good in any stretch of the imagination or the Constitutional issues. This whole issue could be one of the greatest headliners of the century or just a footnote, but time and patience are all we have as mere mortals in the eyes of governmental politics.

Miss Sassy Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 09:29 PM EST

Well, I hope whatever happens, that the truth is revealed once and for all. The fewer conflicts we have in this world, the better. Don't you agree?

Everett Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 05:44 PM EST

I did suspect Keyes may have motif's for being involved, but even with that the issue of the birth certificate long-form has merit. No matter what the stat officials may say about the copy, it is still not the long-form and why it is under seal. I dont get it the "why" when it could stop any speculations. I dont have a clue as to the motif's of the other lawyers involved if there is any but the CT lawyer has some hangup with his state's official over the matter not doing their job, so who knows. I'm not the gullible type, btw, especially with some sort of issue like this one. Political "talking head experts" hypothisize ad nauseum in my opinion ... sometimes right usually just their opinion. Now the real interesting thing about this is that this went to Conference with the justice's and that in itself is above a political direction, it's more about law, validation or cause in a Writ.

Miss Sassy Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 09:43 AM EST

That's fine, Everett. I just think you're being a bit gullible. These lawsuits are nothing more than a far-fetched effort by Obama's opponents to prevent Obama from getting into office. I mean, didn't you notice that one of the men filing a lawsuit, Alan Keyes, ran against Obama for the Senate in Illinois and lost? That right there should make you question the man's motives. Even political analysts say these lawsuits don't stand a chance for success. I don't think it helps that people like you are trying to give these people and their unethical ulterior motives credibility.

Everett Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:30 AM EST

Dont trust lawyers? What was Obama at one time? Remember ACORN? I will say it again ... get it through this time. The GOP does not do my thinking for me and I do not contact GOP people to ask them what I should think. Keyes had a point and the others filing have a point, so lets see what the Court does. Its already in conference and the main stream seems to think nothing is important here. Question my motif's all you want, this is about the Constitution, the long-form and now the US Supreme Court ... not the GOP.

Miss Sassy Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:30 AM EST

More:
Friday, December 05, 2008, Chicago Tribune
The U.S. Supreme Court today will consider whether to take up a lawsuit challenging Obama's US citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Mr. Obama's election. Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule.
The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen. Hawaiian officials agree.
Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed.
The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio v. Wells. Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

Miss Sassy Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:23 AM EST

Everett, I'm not the only one with this opinion:
Friday, December 5, 2008 7:04 AM CST
Opponents of Barack Obama will learn this week whether the U.S. Supreme Court will consider a lawsuit contesting the president-elect's citizenship. University of California at Los Angeles legal scholar Eugene Volokh says it is unlikely the case will be heard. The New Jersey case is just one of many that have been filed questioning Obama's citizenship. Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' lawsuit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a 'natural-born citizen.'
source: http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/05/news/doc49384081186be992635401.txt

Miss Sassy Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 07:53 AM EST

Everett, you most certainly are letting the GOP do your thinking for you if you're falling for this ridiculous hoax lead by pathetic, media-seeking lawyers who have tried to disprove the citizenship of McCain and Cheney and failed. These people are filing these bogus lawsuits just to draw attention to themselves and you're blinding falling for it. As for my "eating my words" I'll happily eat them if any of these bozos can actually prove any of their BS is true. But I don't trust lawyers with ridiculously obvious political agendas and it's sad to see that you do.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 04:19 PM EST

Brian, We arent bored ... just keeping informed and it is odd I heard nothing about this letter from ABC, but Im going to look around. As for bored, there is nothing bored about protecting our rights under the constitution.

Brian Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 02:36 PM EST

Wow. You people must all be really, really bored.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 02:15 PM EST

As I stated prior ... I read both sides of this issue. Oh, btw, the 9 Justices are just dupes and willing to be manipulated ONLY if it is a conservative issue vs anything liberal ... yeah, right. Try to manipulate 9 US Supreme Court Justices and see how FAST you land in the pokey!! I laugh at such stupidity suggesting the Justices will be manipulated.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 02:09 PM EST

Oh, Dec 3 ... read this too:

http://whitewraithe.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/treachery-inside-the-us-supreme-court/

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:57 PM EST

Yesterday, a reporter from the Kansas City Star wrote an equally misleading report about my case. After readers of this blog confronted him, he had the decency to call me and apologize for the wrong treatment my case received in his report. We struck up a good conversation and I gave him proper respect for his admission. I am here to talk any time you like. I understand the concepts are technical and non-lawyers have problems with them.

Regards,

Leo C. Donofrio

Read from "update" reverse ... cut and paste of the letter to ABC News. Dec 4th ... today, ABC News had to be corrected from the original letter, thus such great pains some dont make to respectfully report the facts. Ah, to the entire 9 justices it has gone. Im sure the 9 Justices are all dupes of the GOP and merely decided to be bias and hear this case ... I think you and others best wake up, because this is not some GOP ploy.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:52 PM EST

Another misleading element of your story is the headline. The Supreme Court will be focused on the issue of Obama’s eligibility to be President, not on his citizenship status. Just being a “Citizen” is not enough to be President. I have no doubt, and I’m sure the Supreme Court concurs, that Obama is a United States citizen.

But the Constitution draws a direct distinction between “Citizens” and “Natural Born Citizens”. Citizens may be Senators and Representatives, but it takes something else to be President. So, your headline is wrong as well as your story.

If you would like to respond to this letter, which I have just published in my blog about the case, feel free to do so and I will publish your response as is.

My blog URL is http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:51 PM EST

“The Circuit Justice may act on an application alone or refer it to the full Court for consideration. The fact that an application has been referred to the full Court may not be known publicly until the Court acts on the application and the referral is noted in the Court’s order.“
Now go back and check the docket url for my case.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:50 PM EST

The case could have easily been denied after Justice Thomas referred it to the full court. There was no requirement that it be distributed for conference. In fact, the normal procedure in referred applications involves no public mention of such cases until after the full Court has taken some action. There is an official Supreme Court Publication entitled

“A REPORTER’S GUIDE TO APPLICATIONS Pending Before The Supreme Court of the United States”

You may find it here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/publicinfo/reportersguide.pdf

It will guide you with accuracy to the actions involved in the case you are reporting upon. On page 3, it states:

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:49 PM EST

Furthermore, the case is scheduled for conference of all nine Justices, not eight. You should correct that.

And your reporting, which could have been complete with a simple phone call to the Public Information Office, is also deficient in that it wasn’t Justice Thomas alone who distributed the case for conference of December 5, 2008. That was a decision taken after consideration ofthe full Court.

There are two docket entries for Nov. 19. One of them shows that Justice Thomas referred the case to the full court. The other indicates that the full court distributed the case for conference of Dec. 5. I suggest you call Patricia McCabe Estrada, Deputy Public Information Officer for the United States Supreme Court. She will set you and your story straight.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:48 PM EST

Dear Mr. Terry Owens and ABC News.

The story you printed today with the headline, “Supreme Court to Decide Obama Citizenship” is riddled with errors. Allow me to correct the record for you. I have said in my law suit that I believe Obama was born in Hawaii, so I have no idea why your story makes it seem as if my law suit is centered on the issue of where Obama was born. You wrote,

“The President-elect has maintained he was born in the United States.”

The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen - at birth - a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a “natural born citizen”. The word “born” has meaning. It deals with the status of a presidential candidate “at birth”. Obama had dual nationality at birth. The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status “at birth.” If one is not “born” a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:47 PM EST

Check it out ... update:

Press Coverage: ABC News, Leo Donofrio’s Response
December 4th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Leo Donofrio, Plaintiff in Donofrio v. Wells, posted his commentary today regarding ABC News’ recent story on his case (with a reference to an article posted by Afro.com).

The following is Leo’s letter he sent to ABC News…

ABC NEWS GETS THE DONOFRIO SCOTUS STORY WRONG
Posted in Uncategorized on December 4, 2008 by naturalborncitizen

Below is the text of a letter I just sent to ABC News:

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:10 PM EST

Well, it's December 2, and Obama is still our President-elect. Guess that means he really is a natural-born U.S. Citizen. And a lot of people fell for yet another lame GOP ploy.

If indeed the US Supreme Court issues an order for the release of the long-form for investigation by law and you will eat these words.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 09:02 AM EST

What is it with you and a GOP ploy? Ive said over and over ... this is about the Constitution and the GOP doesnt do my thinking for me. I'm about original document evidence of the long-form and that is the real issue ... why has Obama had that sealed? Privacy? I think not. One issue, let me clearly post it again ... constitution and the long-form. Every court issue goes to the original sources for information and not fabricated evidence. FYI ... I have an original with seal of my birth certificate and copies.

Everett Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 08:54 AM EST

That is correct, duel citizenship. Im looking at other information as I go along. Here is some information searching hospitals:

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1500

No one wants to claim he was born in their hospital in HI. Oh, I didnt start anything ... Obama is the one who should have come forth with the original long-form when all of this started to be a problem. Sorry, FactCheck just has no view of the long-form original. The 4 Writ's pending will either open the vaultto their access for the US Supreme Court or not. Im not interested in knowing about a computer generated copy ... I want to know what the original typed long-form has to reveal. No one has seen it thus it has to be seen by the US Supreme Court for investigation. Let's see if Obama complies if given a direct order for viewing it by the Court.

Miss Sassy Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 09:57 PM EST

Well, it's December 2, and Obama is still our President-elect. Guess that means he really is a natural-born U.S. Citizen. And a lot of people fell for yet another lame GOP ploy.

Miss Sassy Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:27 PM EST

Even a self-described conservative organization says Obama is a U.S. Citizen.
WorldNetDaily, also known as WND, is a socially conservative news and opinion website.
source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

Miss Sassy Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:19 PM EST

Re: your factcheck.org reference, read it. It says Obama was a citizen of BOTH the U.S. and the United Kingdom and Colonies. Nice try.

Miss Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:19 PM EST

Re: your factcheck.org reference, read it. It says Obama was a citizen of BOTH the U.S. and the United Kingdom and Colonies. Nice try.

Miss Sassy Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM EST

If "objective critical research and thinking" are your priority, Everett, then list one non-partisan source that backs up your argument. I've listed two. You've listed none. Come on, you started this.

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:14 PM EST

Miss Sassy, here is something of interest from FactCheck ... seems Obama, even if born in HI, was a citizen of the UK not the USA ... you should read this taken off the site and it a picture captured from FactCheck itself ... thus British at birth if HI background, thus still another issue comes forward ... this is the USA not the UK.

http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/myimages/album2164.image18695.html

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:03 PM EST

Tunes, concerning Leo Donofrio (NJ), I went to his site and found that the original site blog had been hacked and that (if I read correctly) he is under FBI protection? What I read was from 11/22/08, so there is something serious going on here.

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 05:26 PM EST

Point you make over and over is just one of the issues: IF HE WERE NOT, HE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BECOME A SENATOR. It's simple logic. Yes, it is logic and fraud from even before the election is evident as well as his career as a lawyer ... it's called far reaching implications.

And this is Gop propoganda? Cort Wrotnowski (CT) -- Filed his second case with SCOTUS yesterday. Wrotnowski claims Connecticut Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz should not have placed Obama’s name on the ballot without verifying his eligibility for POTUS. Or the other Writ's???

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 03:52 PM EST

BTW, feelings are not my issue here ... objective critical research and thinking is andI told you already I read all angles in this issue. When did I ever say I was looking for GOP propoganda? BTW, caps in a response is like screaming on the internet ... are you getting emotional instead of staying objective here? I dont know you and you dont know me ... you have no right to question my motifs, because my motif is pure constitutionality. You have no idea how much I skip the emotional responses of either a Conservative or a Liberal in this issue. Let me state this clearly if you have not understood my point in the issue: Constitutionality

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 03:22 PM EST

Your responses seem to be atypical to me ... Just because you say the answers have been provided, means nothing to me ... lethe investigation begin. It isnt about McCain with me and I have told you several times ... constitutionality requirements are in question and 4 states now are questioning the issue. Stop questioning motif, deal with the issue and I have a right to ask no matter what responses you have to give in the issues. You dont determine no your organization as to the right I have to ask questions, seek information or challenge any presidental candidate. Plus the bully responses dont answer the questions ... I am waiting for investigation into the facts, not what you may think in opposition to the constitutionality of the issues. Oh, did you see a long-form? Yeah ... sure.

Miss Sassy Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:56 PM EST

I really feel sorry for you guys. You're completely buying into the GOP propaganda AGAIN! You're citing utterly conservative-biased sources, the same type that were accusing Obama of being a Muslim terrorist. Non-partisan sources, which I have provided, state that the man is a natural-born US Citizen. IF HE WERE NOT, HE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BECOME A SENATOR. It's simple logic. Why can't you and the GOP accept it? Are you people STILL trying to get McCain in office? Because the same folks you've mentioned who are questioning Obama's citizenship have also (unsuccessfully) questioned McCain's. Give it up and stop falling for their cheap and pathetic attempts to take Obama out of the Oval Office.

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:36 PM EST

After reading the statement about attempts to removethe "natural born" part of the Constitution, THAT shows tampering legally with the Constitution and now that raises yet another issue ... why try to get a resolution passed to remove the original intent of the Constitution IF the Obama camp has nothing to hide? Ramifications? You bet. Something is just not right here.

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:14 PM EST

I might also add that I dont think we have a Democrat vs Republican issue here ... this is pure constitutionality in the issues surrounding all of the records. Bottom Line: Give up the records for investigation because there are far too many issues.

Tunes59 Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:04 PM EST

Some of us in the party first approched Howard Dean in June with these questions. He ignored our concerns. Now 6 months later it is reaching crisis proportions. Instead of spending the $12 bucks to get a vault long form BC Dean and Obama have spent $100,000's on lawyers to fight the cases.
The standard argument is that some official (congress, FEC, SoS) has the documents. I contacted my Reps and they said they can't get involved with election issues and refered me to the FEC. FEC said they only deal with finance and not vetting then refered me to my SOS. SOS said the partys vet the candidate and refered me to the DNC. I contacted my state office of the DNC and they said they do not have any documents other than a one page form submitted by Obama and refered me to the Fight the Smears website.

So, here we are with 4 cases pending at the SCOTUS all because Dean and Obama refused to pony up $12.

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:50 PM EST

Tunes, I find it interesting that the questions just keep on coming up and the legalities of this become more and more far reaching. We the People have a right to know. Wow, four Writ's? I suppose the Liberal camp thinks anyone who has such a challenge are mind numb cyborg's, but the facts remain ... bring forth the records and let them be investigated by a judge and court. We have a right to know and this is not going away until the information is investigated.

Tunes59 Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:36 PM EST

Overshot the character limit. sorry

4. Cort Wrotnowski (CT) -- Filed his second case with SCOTUS yesterday. Wrotnowski claims Connecticut Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz should not have placed Obama’s name on the ballot without verifying his eligibility for POTUS.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

Tunes59 Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:35 PM EST

The fourth law suit, challenging Obama's citizenship and Natural Born status has reached the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS). Click links at state abbreviation for details.

1. Phil Berg (PA) -- An answer from Barack Obama is due at SCOTUS by December 1st. Berg claims that Obama is not a constitutionally-qualified, natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States.”

2. Leo Donofrio (NJ) -- The case is scheduled for conference by all 9 SCOTUS judges on December 5th. Donofrios' suit is against Nina Wells, the New Jersey Secretary of State, claiming that she had not performed her duty to ensure the integrity of the electoral process.

3. Chris Strunk (NY) -- Filed with SCOTUS last week. Strunk had filed a Freedom of Information Request to the Department of State seeking information regarding Barack Obama’s mother’s foreign travel records as well as a stay of the Electoral College voting until such time as this paperwork i

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:14 PM EST

Sorry about the lag time and typo's. I skipped the blatter in AT's article and went to the law statues in the article which raise more questions. People have the right to question under the Constition and a number of people are asking a lot of questions about the issues surrounding birth records, IL records and Kenyan records.

Everett Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:03 PM EST

Lets just admit it. It has to be Liberal media sources only quoted or refered. I read everything, Liberal and Conservative sources for information. You can deny the HI statues that cause a problem in this issue but they are there and all of the attempts quieting individuals who look at everything as you please, but the issues remain and people will be heard. I dont care if Rush quotes the American Thinker, I dont listen to his program, but the more I dig into this issue the more I see unanswered questions that demand answers. As for the loss of McCain, that is a no issue with me and isnt about bowin down gracefully, this is about the issue of the birth record, IL records and Kenyan records ... sealed records undisclosed promote questions not answered. As I said, no matter how noble FactChecker org may be, they are not the end to a means. Far too much has not been dislosed and the fact that there are questions is the issue.

Miss Sassy Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM EST

Everett, please don't cite sources like americanthinker.com. It's a BIASED conservative website. See:
The American Thinker is a daily conservative website dealing with American politics, national security, economics, diplomacy, culture, and military strategy. The articles published are often mentioned on The Rush Limbaugh Show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Thinker
Same goes for obamacitizenshipfacts.org. You didn't happen to notice the blatant McCain ad banner at the top of the home page? Come on, Everett. You're the one who brought up the issue of PRIMARY SOURCES and BIAS. Part of the definition is that these sources cannot be obviously biased and run by a particular group with a political agenda.
Factcheck.org, however, is non-partisan and non-profit. Far more reputable and reliable. Besides, you'll see soon enough that this debate is all for naught and a moot point. McCain and his supporters lost and they really must deal with it more gracefully.

Everett Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 07:50 PM EST

Just this evening I found the following information on the issue as well and is not light reading ... read it all and all the "legal-ease" language involved.

http://www.obamacitizenshipfacts.org/

Everett Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 07:07 PM EST

Let me clear up a few more things here. FactChecker, no matter how noble, is not the end of a discussion and the evidence of the birth certificate is still in dispute, Ive seen the other evidence too. Fightthe smears is a wonderful way of throwing the word "smears" into the arena of the issues that looks far too much like bias to me. The issues are not about smears, they are about getting to the bottom of them in a way beyond what an organization "says" is the evidence. The issues are bigger than FactFinder and Fightthesmears or even someone who wants to claim there is racist bias in the issue. Legal investgation is the only way to know the issue and opening the sealed records to do investigation.

Everett Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:07 PM EST

Here is just one example of the "why" in this issue and other unanswered issues. I stumbled upon this article doing researching.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_barack_obama_birth_cer.html

Everett Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM EST

I wanted to make sure you understood that my looking at the issues is about knowing the "why" there is even been questions/issues and something does not add up. Im not an inexperienced young man here and have seen lots of bias over the years on both the Liberal and Conservative side of a lot of issues. I look at any issue from the stand point of getting to the bottom of it all. There has to be more to this with sealed records and that really is the problem here, because privacy is not an issue ... it is proof and accountability. The US Constitution is not just a rag ... it is our foundation. Our founding fathers original intent has been stepped on for a number of years ... you must admit.

Everett Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM EST

Not everything is primary source material on the net ... note I said not "everything." I saw that information as well and saw other information that disputed it as well ... so who is correct is the point. The records are sealed. Reporters were even ousted from Kenya who were inquiring into the Kenya background and yes they were over "Visa" disputs, which were odd. I have noticed as well that it seems you and I have been the only ones on the thread here. Dispute this issue as much as you like but something is not right and the records are sealed ... why? The Obama camp could end all of this by allowing everything to be releasd from being sealed. Now, it takes a judge and a court order to get thos records released. I looked at every single angle of this with the birth certificate and something isnt totally revealed here. Say what you may but something is not upfront.

Miss Sassy Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:19 PM EST

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Miss Sassy Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:18 PM EST

Everett, I am a professional fact checker, so don't talk to me about primary sources. And the internet most certainly does provide primary sources, as medical, legal and other publications consider certain sites as such. Again, if Obama could not prove his US Citizenship and place of birth, he would not have become a US Senator in the first place. I really don't see how you or anyone can argue that point. Here is more primary research on the issue:
On June 13, 2008, Obama’s campaign finally released a copy [of his birth certificate], while launching a fact-check Web site of its own, Fightthesmears.com. The site is a direct response to allegations about Obama that won’t go away: He’s Muslim. He took the oath of office on a Koran. He refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. PolitiFact has researched all of these accusations and none of them are true. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

Everett Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 01:08 PM EST

BTW, I have uncovered a lot of things doing primary research in the past that some people had no idea existed or even heard of, including speaking privately on the phone with individuals about particular research I was doing in which they were an expert in that field. Politics is a mixed bag of blinders.

Everett Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM EST

You can say I am wrong all you desire but there was a warning online that any birth record was a hoax because the records are sealed. My points are not an arguement ... I am looking for answers and the internet is not the answer. The Writs have been filed to the US Supreme Court and I am waiting to see whatever results occur. Im also not concerned about snide comments about "truth" ... call me wrong all you desire, but lets see what happens after Dec 1st. Ive seen the internet versions of the birth document and Ive also seen all of them including the appearance of doctored copies. If you take the internet as a viable source for every piece of information, then it is not primary research in many cases. You want to follow the crowd then that is your own path. I spent far too many hours in research papers over the years to allow myself to believe anything but primary sources, etc.

Miss Sassy Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 09:32 AM EST

Sorry, Everett, but you're flat out wrong. It's already been proven that Obama is indeed a natural-born U.S. Citizen:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
And if you really want to see his Birth Certificate, here is is as was posted on the internet by his campaign earlier this year:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

Please don't take for truth the nonsensical legal action taken by the likes of Philip Berg. He and others have unsuccessfully tried to disprove the citizenship of not only Obama, but John McCain and Dick Cheney as well. Again, I will state, as do several other sources, if Obama were not able to prove his citizenship, he would not have been able to become a U.S. Senator in the first place. Also, if this is the worst argument you can come up with against Obama, then I think that says a lot for him.

Everett Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM EST

Miss Sassy ... I typed incorrectly "Missy" sorry for the incorrect typo :)

Everett Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:49 AM EST

btw Missy, I applied for the military many many years ago and am aware of the things they do investigating background and my current personal job also required a FBI fingerprint background check. Im not going to go into my personal background here but I am aware of some issues having to prove my birth record, background, etc.

Everett Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:39 AM EST

That is just one issue on his background. I find it interesting that two Wits have been sent to the US Supreme Court ... one from PA and one from New Jersey on the background issue. It isnt lame and serious ramifications do exist if the background issue is a problem. Fact is Kenya, IL and HI have sealed the records since before the Nov election, not afterwards. There could well be a serious serious problem violating the US Constitution and after Dec 1st let's see what happens and the results, because one of the Writs has been addressed directly to Justice Clarence Thomas. Yes, there are some serious issues if indeed the background birth record is not accurate. I am not really interested in anything except seeing if the Constitution has been violated and have no personal issue with Obama. As for a dirty little secret ... I am not at all interested in that but am interested in why there has been this issue with the filing of the Writs, sealing of documents and the possibility of fraud.