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Thinking over Lil Wayne's 'Tha Carter III'

Jun 11, 2008, 06:46 PM | by Simon Vozick-Levinson

Categories: Hip-Hop/Rap, Music

Lilwaynepopwatch_l Last night, I walked into a record store and bought Lil Wayne's new album, Tha Carter III. It felt a little surreal. Wayne's fans have been thinking about this day through so many endless months of postponed release dates, mixtape teases, scene-stealing guest appearances, and leaks of varying quality; I sometimes think the only entity more absurdly, entertainingly prolix than Weezy himself is the blogosphere hivemind when it talks about Weezy. I'm certainly guilty of over-parsing the guy's pre-release tea leaves myself, having swung in the past 12 months between dizzy worship, grudging admission that not everything he touches is gold, and sheer bewilderment at the whole phenomenon. So what are we supposed to say once the thing we were gabbing about all that time is finally here?

Well, for one thing, Tha Carter III seems to be selling a lot of CDs. Some people are saying it's on track to maybe crack the fabled million-sold mark by the end of its first week, and they're not even kidding. (The CD was in such high demand before it came out yesterday that some unscrupulous retailers even quietly sold a few copies as soon as they came in stock, enough to land Tha Carter III at No. 171 on the Billboard charts today — the week before it's even supposed to show up on the chart at all.) So while I know I'll be mulling this music over for a long time to come, for now I'm content to know that Wayne's proved hip-hop's naysayers wrong yet again. Not only is rap a vibrant, expansive artform, it can still be a monster of a commercial force in the right hands. Even to a guy like me, who doesn't really care about the labels' profit margins at the end of the day, that's a profoundly satisfying result.

And the contents of that little jewel box that everyone's been rushing out to purchase? Yeah, they're both exhilarating and maddening, in precisely the way Wayne always is. As many others have noted, he's basically extended his stream-of-consciousness mixtape mode into the major-label event album format. That makes for a wildly scattershot listen, with plenty of unnecessary clunkers to go along with the surfeit of clever couplets and off-the-wall song concepts. I'm pretty sure Tha Carter III is not as good as that playlist you (oughta) have in your iTunes with the best bits from The Drought is Over 2 and Da Drought 3 and Dedication 2. Nor is it even close to the thought-out lyrical masterpiece that I still believe Wayne is capable of making if he ever sits still long enough. But it's certainly way better than most rap albums in the past year. Anyway, dude told us he's an alien ("like Gonzalez"!), and I guess super-advanced extraterrestrials don't have to make any sense at all to us earthlings. So let somebody else do "perfect." This is Wayne, for better or for worse, following his own voice out to all kinds of places.

Or maybe this just means Weezy has thrown my brain into a self-consuming tailspin, again. Who knows. Any fellow obsessives out there want to help me figure out which way is up?


deto Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:06 PM EST

wazz up weezy how you doin

TJ Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:50 PM EST

NOW ITS YOUNG MONEY BABY KEEP THE CHANGE

VENIQUEL AUSTIN Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:07 AM EST

HEY LIL WAYNE U R DA BEST I LOVE U

VENIQUEL AUSTIN Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:07 AM EST

HEY LIL WAYNE U R DA BEST I LOVE U

diamond carter Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:35 AM EST

lil wayne is so sexxxy i mean thank god.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MIZZ INDEPENDENT Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:21 AM EST

MEMO: TO ERVBDY HATIN ON WEEZY!!!tha world wutten b nuffin without hataz... and lil wayne neddz yall hataz to keep hatin on hym it make his musik even betta his swagg so hard and his leatha sooo soft!!

keykey Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:39 AM EST

DAT SONG WUZ THE BEST YEA I KNOW U WORK HARD TO MAKE YO SONGS AND U ALSO ALWAYS DO U AND DATS A GOOD THING AND DATS WATS ALWAYS GONE BE WATS UP SO KEEP DOING U YA DIG

tha j-r Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 01:57 AM EST

I bet who ever is bx is a little white kid....!!!
Trying to be black...Tha carter 3 is the best album I have ever bought. And lil wayne is the best rapper alive nobody has anything on him. Any rapper the trys to go againts him well get hella diss.....

Mike D Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:02 PM EST

I so needed to get this off my chest…LIL WAYNE IS THE WORST RAPPER TO EVER BE BORN!!!!! I don’t get it and maybe I’m not supposed to get it. I’m from the era of real Hip Hop and maybe this is where rap is going so I’m not suppose to get it. So if that’s the case, I’m cool with that but what does that say about the music I love??????

Kayla Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 04:48 PM EST

I bought Tha Carter III the day it came out. I LOVE IT. Every song is great.

A.P.T. Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 09:03 PM EST

Check out my music video for my Lil’ Wayne "A Milli" remake, “Obama, Obama” at the link below:

http://aptsongs.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/one-song-a-week-song-5-obama-obama

You can download the song there, too - and share the video with your friends! - A.P.T.

Briyanna Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 09:04 PM EST

Lil wayne is the best.I dnt care wut any ones may say, the way he thinks is out of this world. The carter 3 is the best. When you have other rapper's saying that he is the best then that means something. For all of the people who think that he is stealing other people's verses (which he is nt) then you need to listen to Dr.Carter number 6 on the Carter 3. For every one hatin its stupid. Why hate on the best???

BOBBY Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM EST

Lil Wayne sucks his music is garbage and it all sounds the same and he doesnt even have good raps he steals verses from other people he is garbage and he is not the best rapper alive and he will never be...

keith robbins Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 09:14 PM EST

tha carter 3 is one of the best albums i ever heard

bxisafrog Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:17 PM EST

i love how this album in the eyes of the frog 'bx' is garbage but yet it goes platinum.. and all of 'us' that arnt a part of the hiphop community ae the ones makin this possible, this isn't brain surgery kid

i could get your brains for a bargain, like a bought it, from target

bxisafrog Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:06 PM EST

bx youre probably some frog hatin on weezy cause your weak ass rhymes wont ever be signed, stop before you turn green

sickeddie Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 09:00 AM EST

Lil Wayne has proven so many wrong.His album is da bomb and i cant wait to lay my hands on it.Carter 3 is the sickest album of all timez.
Long Live Lil Wayne.
www.sickeddie.page.tl

Mr. CTS Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 05:34 PM EST

TO MELO IF YA THINK THAT THAT DUDE GILLIE REALLY WRITES 4 WAYNE THEN YOU ARE CRAZY!!! IF YOU JUST LISTEN 2 HIS LYRICS YOU WILL SEE THAT SOME OF THE BARS AND PUNCHLINES HE SAYS CAN'T NEVA BE WRITTEN!!! THAT IS JUST A COMBO OF HIM BEIN ONE OF THE BEST AND HIS KNOWLEDGE!!!

wat Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 04:51 PM EST

tha carter 3 is good, but it is not near the level as carter 2. if people stop leaking his tracks an putting them on mixtapes tha carter 3 can be 10 times better. wayne is not the best rapper alive i wud have to give that to naz. if naz and lil wayne ever go after each other naz wud and will kill wayne. just remember wat he did to jay-z with one song.(ETHER)

montana from atlanta Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:06 PM EST

if all you have to do is hate on wayne then we dont even have to say as fans you and if you dont know what fit in the blanks then maybe you should take your dumb back to school !

Jessica Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 07:16 PM EST

I hear his lyrics in my sleep.

jaykilla_aka_6loodkilla Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:05 PM EST

to a retard who said lil wayne will out sell thriller. you honestly is the most retard person on earth

BitchImTaylor Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:16 PM EST

gillie doesnt write for weezy, nobody writes for weezy, weezy is the truth, you cant stop him, and i guarentee this album tops thriller!

Melo Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM EST

Lil wayne is dhe best ! But to brianna he don write some of his musik ma ; Gillie does ; But i really don care bout that ; Jus makin dhat clear ! Weezys dhe best nobody fxckin wif him ; =]

brianna Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:59 AM EST

lil wayne iz a def. cash money millionare...unlike most rappers, he haz meanings ta hiz lyrics n can spit right off tha top...he has a unique swagga dat no body else can eva inherit...he duz thngs dat he noes no body can top, he haz diff. prenunciations of words wen he raps n the biggest thng ii admire iz how he writes hiz own musiq..das big cuz most rappers sit round n wait fa it ta b written fa them. yes ladies we all noe dat he iz sexcii butt he has a reel chill side ta him n by listening ta hiz musiq yu will b able ta c dat.dnt noe y ppl hate on him but there reeli iz no pt. cuz he dnt care. I am a true dwayne michael carter fan from the heart. musiq period wldnt b tha same without hiz voice of wordz being her thru ppls stereos , speakers, or head fones.

friq Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:20 AM EST

this album is good but truth be told he does not make tracks he free styles any1 who does not like this can lick weezy's ballz

jake Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:56 AM EST

man i liked a lot of these tracks. "Mr Carter, Comfortable, Tie My Hands, Dr. Carter, 3peat & Let the Beat Build. ppl dnt like "Dontgetit" when weezy talks for 7 mins but thats him havin to say wat he feels.look tupac did it why cant wayne cuss off sharpton? oh n weezy is the best rapper alive n a beast

Lil Wayne Worshiper Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:01 AM EST

Lil Wayne is by far the best rapper the world has ever had. No one comes close to the type of demand people have for his music. HE IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE!!!

parks Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 01:50 PM EST

not his best but still better than anyone else

Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:26 AM EST

best rapper alive!!! period

ts` Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:43 AM EST

this album is great even with just about every song leaking. If it hadn't of been for the leaks, this album would be one of the best ever

212watitdo Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:20 PM EST

BX, i couldn't make it past the first sentence of your statement. you write like a retarded person. i would agree or disagree with your statement if you could write english at least at a junior high school level.

work on it. good luck.

cece Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:40 PM EST

tha cater 3 is "ill" i love it wayne is just gettin hotter by da second his music is gettin "stupidier"

bx Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:37 PM EST

and to da dumb asses dat said yo this album is fire but he could've done betta u make no sense just say his album is garbage cuz it is i knw people dat listen to his wak self and they even said its not worth to download or buy his album cuz its trash

BX Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:34 PM EST

first of all all of u people dat actaully think lil wayne makes hip hop please cmon dis dude is garbage his rhymes is garbage his metaphors are worst all he does is make garbage ass music and half of ya aint really hip hop fans cuz ya like otha music im into hip hop and dats all but yo boy lil wayne is wak he wak he wak dats all open ya eyes listen to someone else except him ya making his head so big he full of himself he ugly he corny he aint real Cmon ya fans of a dude who aint nothing cmon ya fans is messing up[ hip hop status having dis clown think he da best ya bunch of dummies need to wake up LIL WAYNE IS GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:11 PM EST

illegal alien he could of used any hispanic name...

koon Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:39 PM EST

elian gonzalez...its a play on words with alien and elian..meanign that kid from cuba who was brogutht o the us...remembers

lindsay Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:05 PM EST

yeah yo this album is fire, but it's not as good as i expected. wat really pissed me off was that he put comfortable on here!! i expected new songs n then i hear that song, i was mad. weezy put so much hype in it that it would take a masterpiece n anythin less would disapoint. n its not the lyrical genius that i expected. it seems like he's startin 2 lose it. drugz fukk u up. dont get me wrong im the biggest wayne fan i know... but i was dissapointed. at the end of listening to th album i was like"wait, that's it". i honestly thought that dumb azz dj didnt leak the whole thing, then 2 come to find out the only song he didnt leak was comfortable!!! that damn song i didnt even like the 5 versions of it he had on his mixtapes.

BISI Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM EST

im not a big rap fan, but i went to best buy at 10 in the morning to purchase the carter 3 and i was VERY impressed. even though the weather was well above 95, i had my windows down BLASTING his cd!!! there are no fillers. my favorites are mr. carter and the joint with betty wright, i think its called set this stage on fire.

Kayla Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM EST

lil wayne here go yo #1 fan i love you and dont stop what you doin because yo new cd is poppin i love it but yeah stay fresh peace and much love keep doin what u doin

Patricia Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM EST

I LOVE WAYNE... everything on his CD is gold..-cant NOBODY do like him-he could get--im his biggest fan and i will beat some A** for my baby

Derek Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:28 AM EST

lil wayne is trash, and christina is a hoe

Bezzy Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 07:46 AM EST

Yoll...DontGetIT...Mybe never will..

weezy my nizzt Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:34 AM EST

Lil wayne is the best rapper alive and the carter III is the best album ever so if u haven't bought this cd u should go and do so to support him.

ChRiStInA Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:33 AM EST

in my opinion i love the CD! i think anything Wayne puts out is fire!

P.S.
SHUT UP DEREK! YOU AINT SH*T! LET ME SEE YOU SELL 420,000 COPIES OF A CD, THAT LEAKED, IN A DAY!

martian Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:45 AM EST

this album is FIRE, thats it and thats all....lil wayne is killing the game right now and will continue to kill the game. Can you honestly say that ANYBODY is holding him right now? He's a beast. Congratulations....

Mabule Peter Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:19 AM EST


I think Lil Wayne is the best and the hottest of them all, keep up the good work because I enjoy your creativity.

Jumpman Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 01:49 AM EST

This CD is definately a classic. Let The Beat Build, Mr. Carter, Dr. Carter, Shoot Me Down & Tie My Hands are better than anything else so far this year. The whole CD goes well together. And Ain't Got Nothin' has 3 great verses.

Geno Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 01:25 AM EST

weezy is smart he coulda released this album last year with better music on it but instead he made them anticipate and rush to the stores i think t.i vs t.i.p was much better and i think lil wayne had put out ten albums worth of material better than this, not to say this isnt good he's just strategic because to top the bar next time wont be hard because hes already been so diverse think about that one

Lake Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 01:19 AM EST

I feel sorry for all the rappers in the game right now," get on my level, u need a spaceshuttle or a ladder thats forever"

weezyfbaby Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:26 AM EST

wayne is amazing... those that are hatin make absolutely no sense to me... only thing i wonder is, why isn't 'i know the future' on the album? that track is so hott!!

mattb Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM EST

Best luck Wayne, and let em keep comparing you to the seasons and hatin you for no reason…

mattb Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:53 PM EST

There are a few albums each year that really spark the rap communities eye, not only in the pre-release but after as well. Wayne has ultimately been the poster child this year as a lot of people have been waiting to either praise Weezy, or hate on him. A good album in my opinion usually has more than a few hits, and I beleive this album is exactly that. There are about 5-6 songs that I believe are amazing, but the rest are good to so so. Wayne is definitely the freshest rapper out right now, he is definitely the most original rapper out since Eminem. I think if he takes this album to the next level with his next (I hope), he will definitely be in the ropes with Biggie and Pac and the rest of the greats (if he hasn’t already grasped the hip-hop community in that regard, which he has in my mind). His songs not only feel good, his lyrics bring a smile to a lot of faces with his jokes and metaphors. He is the realest rapper out right now, and I don’t think he will let his fame fall.

Cas Phenom Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:43 PM EST

The fact of the matter is this: Dwayne Michael Carter is the best rapper alive. He rips every song he makes, and he destroys every song he features on. Love him or hate him, he'll tear up any track, with all 9 hands tied behind his back. That being said, I have been kinda disapointed with his more recent material. Not majorly, just noticably. I'm glad he's doing so well, a man who's been in the hiphop game so long deserves the type of attention he's getting.

juice Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:44 PM EST

yo i just bought the album and its missing some tracks i bought it at hstings have yall hurd anythin like that happen. its missing lolipop and lala with yung dro

jesus Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM EST

man shut up

derek Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 PM EST

many look to albums such as biggie's ready to die or nas' illimatic to tell them what a classic is suppose to be. the problem with criticing wayne with that criteria is that wayne is not your typical rapper. "my criteria compared to your career isn't fair". He's so unorthodoz, all over the place with with his word play and figurative language that it it takes a minute fter some lines before u get what he said and how relavent it really is. with that being said, i, just like p.diddy and other personell in the hip hop world, dubb this to be a classic album full of diversitym creative concets and well...wayne. the carter 2 lyrically was better than this. but wayne aimed for a classi here and hit the bullseye. of course for an album to be labelled classic it takes time but i'm going to go out on the linb and say in about a years time ppl will look back on the album songs like tie my hands, comfortable, playing with fire, mr carter, dr carter, phone home and dun it a classic


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