Does 'Iron Man' deserve an Oscar?

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Patrick Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM EST

This movie was ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL I totally agree in every way with your article. After seeing it last weekend I was dieing to see it again. OR EVEN PLAY THE GAME. The movie was hilarious and he did such a good acting job, Although I did not have enough time on my hands to watch it again, I may watch it tommorow. I am really planning to unless something else comes up. I have been looking into the different games and I think they look absolutely terrific, the graphics, gameplay, and all. I do, on the other hand, think that it is going to be an absolute failure putting it on the ds platform. THE GRAPHICS SUCK!!! Just looking at the screenies made my IRON MAN ENTHUSIASM go way down, until I got it off the screen of course. My opinion is yes, absolutely yes it should be in at least the top 5 choices for an Oscar, and Downey, of course, should be rewarded for such nice acting. BRAVO!!!!

Patrick Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:36 PM EST

This movie was ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL I totally agree in every way with your article. After seeing it last weekend I was dieing to see it again. OR EVEN PLAY THE GAME. The movie was hilarious and he did such a good acting job, Although I did not have enough time on my hands to watch it again, I may watch it tommorow. I am really planning to unless something else comes up. I have been looking into the different games and I think they look absolutely terrific, the graphics, gameplay, and all. I do, on the other hand, think that it is going to be an absolute failure putting it on the ds platform. THE GRAPHICS SUCK!!! Just looking at the screenies made my IRON MAN ENTHUSIASM go way down, until I got it off the screen of course. My opinion is yes, absolutely yes it should be in at least the top 5 choices for an Oscar, and Downey, of course, should be rewarded for such nice acting. BRAVO!!!!

Bettina Sat, May 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM EST

OHMYGOSH!heeeeeel no iron man doesnt deserve AN oscar it deserves LOTSA oscars :D it was soooooo goood i just went to see it today and honestly to say i think it was the best movie i have seen in years! like even in just the begining i REALLY needed to go to the washroom buhh held it in cause then i didnt want to miss a single moment of the movie! it'le keep you at the edge of your seat the whole time your watching the movie. LOL seriously i was like so hyper while watching it they got mad at me and said i was embarrasing them! ><

bilal Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:17 AM EST

no iron man not better then the dark knight
iron man is the fatman

Danny Pytell Tue, May 6, 2008 at 05:31 PM EST

I agree with the article 100%!! Some Oscar-nominated movies aren't even all that great (No Country for Old Men was horrible, in my opinion) and there are fantastic films that are always being overlooked.

Personally, I would have liked to see "300" up for an Oscar in a variety of categories. If not just for the special effects, as an overall great film with a strong storyline and stunning moments...even if it's based on a graphic novel.

Let's hope we see Iron Man and Dark Knight at the Oscars!

Xavi Rodriguez Tue, May 6, 2008 at 02:59 PM EST

I watched the film and I think Robert Downey Jr. is fantastic, A golden Globe nomination for BEst Actor in Coemdy or Musical is very possible but Oscar nomiantion? In first view I don't think so, no because he didn't deserve it, it's about three important facts:

*Great actors and Stars in Best Actor race this year: BEnicio Del Toro, Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Viggo Mortensen, Frank Langella, Philip Seymour Hoffman..
*Intersting exceptions to the rule for summer blockbuster's curse-Diferent OScar material: Johnny Depp "POTC I", Julie Andrews "Mary Poppins", Al Pacino "Dick Tracy" (Pacino is the only character based for a comic who get a nomination). But how happen to Michelle Pfeiffer "Catwoman", Amy Adams "Enchanted", Daniel Craig "Casino Royale" (BAFTA Nomination)
*A lot o intersting competition: Especially for two huge contenders: The Dark Knight (With Heath Ledger) and Indiana Jones (With Cate Blanchett).

But the race begins in September, maybe I'm wrong...

Peter Skouras Tue, May 6, 2008 at 02:00 PM EST

I have been a BIG screen fan my entire life and as such I am committed to watching the Oscar's every year no matter how bad they F.. it up. When first heard that Heath Ledger was playing the Joker(who is my favorite Super Villan)about two years ago,I admitt, I was skeptical. However, after seeing a couple of trailers, I am impressed. If Heath's performance is carried out for the entire movie as in the trailer's than it is an Oscar worthy performance and the Academy should recognize such superb acting. My past experience with the Academy tells me that they will NOT. I submit this: Assumming the role of a complete psychopath MUST take its toll on a person and after all it was only a short while after the Dark Knight was in the CAN that Heath Passed away so it would make sense that this role contributed to his problems and hence his untimely death. the Academy at the very least should nominate Heath in recognition of this. To date only James Dean has received an Academy Award Posthumously

Rizzo Tue, May 6, 2008 at 09:38 AM EST

Hey. I checked out Iron Man for a second time last night. Stay till the credits run through? Intresting ending...

Tue, May 6, 2008 at 09:01 AM EST

Downey was good in both roles, but it's too soon to anoint him as a potential nominee.

Yes, the Bourne Ultimatum and Ratatouille were the best films of 2007 and it's a shame that neither was nominated for best picture. They were better than No Country for Old Men IMO.

Johnny Depp probably would have won in 2003 for Pirates 1 if the Oscars had been in March. He won the SAG Best Actor award, which was an upset, but the early Oscar date hurt him.

Add Tilda Swinton in the snubbed list for the first Narnia film.

Rob Grizzly Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:28 AM EST

You're preaching to the chior, Ken. Yes, I think about it. Every year.

2007 possible best picture nom: The Bourne Ultimatum
2005 possible best sup. actor nom: Liam Neeson/Michael Cane (Batman Begins)
2004 possible best sup. actor nom: Alfred Molina (Spiderman 2)
2003 possible best director nom: Danny Boyle (28 Days Later)

And not just during the summer. There are plenty of "popcorn" movies that have great performances that are overlooked at any time of the year.

2006- possible best actor nom: Daniel Craig (Casino Royale)
2004- possible best actress nom: Uma Thurman (Kill Bill vol 2)
1999- possible best screenplay nom: The Matrix, Fight Club, etc

Downey did a great job in Iron Man (basically playing a version of himself) but it won't change anything. Thankfully recognition to Johnny Depp and Meryl Streep in Pirates and Prada respectively, is a step in the right direction.

kana Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:13 PM EST

When i saw the Dark Knight trailer this weekend i thought the same thing: Heath Ledger's looks like an Oscar-caliber performance. i also hope the Academy pull their heads out of their asses long enough to peek at the summer flicks.

Nix Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:39 PM EST

The Academy should have (and at many times has had) a broader view of merit. No movie should automatically be disqualified, certainly not from consideration. Overall, like umpires, the miscalls and the great calls work out. The things that last end up lasting one way or the other. Oh, and Ratatouille was indeed the best picture of 2007.

penfold Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:46 PM EST

I thought it was an absolute TRAVESTY that Depp did not get the oscar for Sparrow; that has to be one of the most unique, genre-crossing performances EVER. Not giving him the Oscar, was indeed, as another poster said, an insult.

Does Downey deserve the Oscar? IMHO, yes - at least a nod. He was awesome in this film. He makes the character snarky AND loveable simultaneously - while never apologizing for the egocentric, self-gratifying motivations of the character, and still managing to make him the self-sacrificing savior. do you have any idea how HARD that is to balance?

Yeah, at least an Oscar nod.

starlurker Mon, May 5, 2008 at 08:54 PM EST

I still think after all these years that the Academy snubbed Michelle Pfeiffer's performance in Batman Returns that year. She had one of the best performances of that year, but because she spent most of the performance in skintight latex in a *gasp* comic book superhero movie that it was ignored. Why? It's a brilliant performance!

I feel the same way about Robert Downey Jr's performance in Iron Man. Hopefully he gets lucky where the divine Ms. Pfeiffer did not.

Jenny Mon, May 5, 2008 at 08:53 PM EST

I have not seen IronMan as yet however hearing that Robert Downey Jr. has created a character as unique as Johnny Depp's Cpt Jack Sparrow would be to me very surprising. The academy was wise enough to nominate Johnny Depp's performace, but not wise enough to award him the Oscar which was in my view and insult. Instead they awarded another angry and typical Sean Penn performance. If indeed Downey's performance is an original and different character like Cpt Jack it would be nice to see it awarded for a change.

AD Mon, May 5, 2008 at 08:45 PM EST

I totally agree with this article, I didn't even see most of the movies that won oscars this year, The movies that won were mostly picked by elitist snobs who thinks there taste in movies are better than the general public, so why would an average guy waste his time watching the oscars? Its about time that they give an Oscar to a movie that everyone liked rather than those artsy film that not many people watch.

Steven A. Mon, May 5, 2008 at 08:15 PM EST

I thought Gwyneth Paltrow was stunning. How does she look so good? The movie was definitely fun, but probably not worth all the hype. We don't even see Iron Man until the movie's half over. Acting schmacting.

William Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:56 PM EST

Iron Man Was Awesome, but no way an Oscar. There is a reason Why No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood are Oscar winners. Thats because they are master pieces. If you want the general public to watch the Oscars and the movies that win Oscars tell them to take a class in film or have better taste.

Thozmaniac Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:48 PM EST

"I haven't seen the movie, but I agree with this sentiment. The Bourne Ultimatum should have been nominated last year, Casino Royale in 2006 and Batman Begins in 2005."

WHAT?!?! The only one of the three movies mentioned that was even half decent was Batman Begins...
There aren't any good movies anymore.
I'll stick with watching the truly great actors on TCM..

I'll prob stoll checkout IronMan though.

Kris Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:46 PM EST

I'm sure it has been said, but Johnny Depp was nominated for the first PotC movie, so having nominations from the summer blockbusters is not something new.

Hennehn Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:32 PM EST

Uhm Nick, bad casting job? The new Nick Fury in Marvel Comics is based on Samuel L. Jackson. Marvel went to Sam and asked for permission to use his likeness for the re-make of the character. So technically you can't do any better than Sam Jackson as Nick Fury for casting. First Ed Harris then Sam Jackson- know what you're talking about before posting a comment.

T.O. Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:17 PM EST

Iron Man was INCREDIBLY well made, acted and not over exposed with computer logistics. AWESOME movie!

HL Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:12 PM EST

Iron Man was excellent. I don't understand how anyone wouldn't like it. Well, maybe those with no personality. Everyone I know loved it. Robert Downey Jr. was really good in it. A MUST SEE MOVIE!

Kader Belbina Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:58 PM EST

You're a giant idiot.

jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:56 PM EST

I think all of the big stars in the movie should be absolutely embarrassed that they were in it. This movie is good if you're 10 years old and have never seen an action film.

fletc3her Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:54 PM EST

I thought Iron Man was great. The pacing and story were good. The acting was good. The special effects were amazing. I'd love to see movies like this compete for Oscars.

However, I must say I thought No Country for Old Men was a hoot. I saw it two times. A truly dark comedy and among the best of the Coen brothers. I enjoyed this movie greatly and it stuck with me.

I see a lot of movies. I see a movie just about every week at the theater and I see a lot more on DVD and classics on TCM. It is a little bizarre when the Oscars come around and I've only seen one or two of the best picture and other major category nominees, but that's the way it was this year. A few of the films didn't even play outside of the art house theaters.

I've seen all the best picture winners for the last couple decades and I think Crash is the only one I really didn't feel deserved the honr. It just seemed trite and overly melodramatic to me.

Biff Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:50 PM EST

A very good movie - I don't know that RDJ deserves a best actor nom - there are a lot of movies yet to come, but I agree with most here that it's about time they stop snubbing the big films just because they're big.

I find it laughable that many of these dramas we see nominated every year are considered so powerful. Typically, most are forgotten within a couple years, and as for their ability to make people think, or to display real world scenarios with great emotion and depth, well, most of the time, I just don't see it. Many of the plots and characters in those pieces are blatant anti-stereotypes or anti-casting where they try to score points by putting an unexpected actor in a role (FYI, anyone who knows Stark in the comics knows Downey was perfect), or the films have wildly unrealistic characters only made "realistic" by gripping tragedy and serendipitous meetings. "These 8 people never thought they'd die today, let alone together..." It's pandering buffoonery and unrealistic.

scott Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:48 PM EST

it may not win an oscar but it will win an MTV movie award!

J. Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:44 PM EST

I find it weird people crapping on Downey as a consideration for Best Actor, when Johnny Depp got one for Jack Sparrow, which I thought was a ridiculous performance at best. Why not one for Downey as Tony Stark?

John Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:32 PM EST

The people in this movie aren't real actors, Paltrow is a poser nothing, Downey is a joke. Bring back some real actors already.

James in TO Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:03 PM EST

Heck, what I was excited about was they are bringing out a Thor movie - finally the God of Thunder is going to hit the big screen. I am very curious as to how they are going to manage that transition. And a movie with Iron Man, Thor, Capt America and Hulk all at once - fabulous, although I don't recall them ever appearing together in the comics. Could skip the Ant Man movie however, ranks about 1000th on the superhero interest list. Congrats to Robert Downey for a really fine job, and now he will live on in the trilogy hall of fame!

Annie Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:02 PM EST

I liked the movie. It was really good. Not great and certainly not Oscar worthy! I am liking Downey more...but lost a lot of respect for him after all those drug relapses.

kim in kentucky Mon, May 5, 2008 at 05:56 PM EST

the first RAIDERS was nominated for Best Picture - as was Star Wars

Beth Mon, May 5, 2008 at 05:02 PM EST

Veronica - I agree with you, but I know people who took their 6 and 4 year olds to watch Transformers, which contained violent and sexual themes that weren't appropriate. I have also witnessed parents bringing very young children in to the theater to watch Hannibal. No wonder this is a crazy world.

Chris Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:58 PM EST

I agree with all of you!! The academy should consider something other than what they deem worthy. That being said, it's unfortunate that the script must have literary merit to be considered.

Joe in Philly Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:44 PM EST

An Oscar for Iron Man? Hell no. It was just okay.

Gwyneth's fan Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:33 PM EST

I don't care Downey. Gwyneth looks gorgeous. Gwyneth!!! (and I'm on my couch), I love you!!!!

Shannon S. Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:29 PM EST

...and comparing this movie to Dark Knight is a little premature. Jon Favreau is no Christopher Nolan. This was a good movie, but it still felt and played like a superhero movie. The Dark Knight trailer looked like an advertisement for an independent film being released in December...A REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONE.

Al Fredo Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:24 PM EST

I agree with Ceballos' point, which is not necessarily that a seemingly good movie like this (which I still haven't seen!) should be automatically be slotted for Oscar consideration, but rather that it shouldn't automatically be disqualified because of its genre. But it raises a more fundamental question - how do you evaluate "artistic merit"? What defines "greatness"? Does a complex, layered, thought-provoking film (but let's say boring as hell) automatically take precedence over a fantastic, rousing, well executed action film? Of course it comes down to judgment. Personally, I don't really care. The stamp of approval the Academy makes by awarding a Best Picture in no way validates or improves a film (it may induce me to see a picture I ordinarily wouldn't see, but it won't make me appreciate it any more).

Shannon S. Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:24 PM EST

You know, I hate to say this, but Iron Man didn't live up to my expectations. Maybe that's my own fault...mainly because I went into the theater expecting the BEST MOVIE EVER, and it ended up just being a really good movie. I just think the movie was lacking in a few key areas. I thought the score and soundtrack were horrible...ESPECIALLY for a superhero/action movie, where those things should be a key component of the film. Also, I was checking my watch during the final battle with Bridges and Downey...it just seemed to go nowhere fast. I think I'll appreciate it more on repeat viewings, but for now I'm still unsure how I feel on this one.

Lolita Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:16 PM EST

I took my sons (7 and 10) to see the movie this weekend, and normally I don't like superhero movies, but this one was Excellent! I LOVED Robert Downey Jr. in this role. When I first heard he was in this movie, it didn't make sense, but after seeing the movie, he was perfect for the role. I don't think he'll get an Oscar, but he'll be offered many starring roles.

Woody Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:16 PM EST

Downey displayed quality acting throughout the entire film. I'm not sure if he deserves an Oscar, but it would be just to consider him.

Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:11 PM EST

Hah, Ed Harris..

That made me laugh. Epic bald head distraction, lol.

Hated it Mon, May 5, 2008 at 04:07 PM EST

NOT a good movie. I found it boring.

Ethan Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:57 PM EST

Finally, we've begun seeing comic book based movies as they were meant to be seen. There has been a lot of really good material passed over for so many years. Now that Marvel has thier own studio they'll be able to make movies more closely resembling the source material. Then, whe DC has thier own studio will we really start seeing the competition and the magic made because of it. I believe we are entering a "golden age" of superhero filmmaking. Just watch, the Avengers will be coming soon and the Justice League as well. That's exciting.

DC Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:42 PM EST

Nick - where in the heck did you see Ed Harris in the film? Did you mean Jeff Bridges? Did the bald head throw you off? LOL

popcorn flics Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:41 PM EST

To the late mitchell warren: Yes b/c Marisa tomei in My Cousin Vinny, Cuba Gooding in Jerry Maguire, and Pacino in Scent of a Women were "visionary" performances. And we all know James Cameron sinking the Titanic was "visionary" directing as well. The academy has record of giving Oscars to popular films and performances. While I loved No Country and "TWBB" and grand total of 5 people saw them in the theatre. It's wrong to assume that the only worthy films are the ones that only play in LA and NY.

JimENewtron Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:36 PM EST

Iron Man, IMHO, was the best Marvel-movie yet. As far as serious Oscar contention, I doubt it will even come close. While Robert Downey, Jr. et al truly raised the bar for superhero movies, the Academy wouldn't allow a flick like this such an "honor." It just wouldn't keep with the artistic elitism characteristic of the Oscars. With Prince Caspian and the Indiana Jones: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull coming out within the next few weeks, it's going to be a good summer for movie-goers.

Veronica Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:24 PM EST

Helen, I do not think that this movie is appropriate for 2nd graders... although the 'superhero' parts where he's actually flying and building the suit are cool for kids - there are a lot of scenes involving terrorists and some pretty direct references to executing prisoners, beating them, etc... I have two boys and they won't be seeing it...

Jack Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:23 PM EST

I have to be honest when the first announce Robert Downey Jr was playing the role of Tony Stark. I was was like no way this will be a flop.
But, let me say I saw it and there is no way anyone else could every play him now!!! Robert Downey Jr was excellent!!! I enjoyed every minute of Iron Man!! Everything about the movie was excellent the script, the acting and special effects.

LisaM Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:20 PM EST

I don't think a movie about an iron man is gonna to get an acting nomination. But Heath Ledger's Joker looks really scary and if it's a good performance, maybe a nomination. Longshot, but you never know.

wingman3 Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:17 PM EST

lordheinrich I'm a little offended that you would compare Gandhi to E.T. and consider it a movie that people don't is great. In regards to Ironman, I thought it was great. It definitely was not a movie I was planning on seeing but with all the incredible reviews I thought it would have been tragic if I did not see the movie on the big screen...and it would have been.

wingman3 Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:17 PM EST

lordheinrich I'm a little offended that you would compare Gandhi to E.T. and consider it a movie that people don't is great. In regards to Ironman, I thought it was great. It definitely was not a movie I was planning on seeing but with all the incredible reviews I thought it would have been tragic if I did not see the movie on the big screen...and it would have been.

Dave Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:17 PM EST

Um, no.

Next article...

JC Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:10 PM EST

I agree with Kim from Kentucky...Basically, if Johnny Depp can get a nom for Pirates, it's serious consideration for Downey Jr. Also, I'm sort of thinking of Ledger as The Joker being like Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurh. I got chills every time Bardem was on the screen in No Country, and the preview for the Dark Knight has been the same so far. If The Dark Knight wasn't a comic book movie and Batman and the Joker weren't ingrained in our brains as pop culture history, I think from what I've seen of Ledger's acting so far goes beyond a post mortem honorary award.

Marie Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:10 PM EST

Hells to yes!!! Best Oscars ever!

lordheinrich Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:08 PM EST

to Jason

The problem is that the acedemy seems to go thru periods where certain types of movies don't get considered at all. In hindsight can it really be said that Annie Hall was better than Star Wars, Ghandi better than E.T., or Chariots of Fire better than Raiders. All three of the losing movies have stood the test of time and are still considered great film making where are the winners on any list of great movies? At least those films were nominated.

Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:07 PM EST

Maybe if the Oscar's nominated something people care about, people would care about them for a change.

the late mitchell warren Mon, May 5, 2008 at 03:00 PM EST

Ken, I've read you for a long time. I agree with a lot of what you say. But you're a TV critic. All that crime drama and B level sci fi is going to your head. The academy voting for Iron Man for anything other than special effects would be a new low. At least LOTR was a prestige picture based on literary comic book. (which I wasnt nuts about anyway). Comic book movies' reward is their box office success. Serious awards for silly escapist fare should be restricted to TV. Hopefully academy award members will continue to award art and visionary directors, leaving glorified studio mechanics to ponder life's great meaning just a bit more.

John W Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:47 PM EST

In a perfect world Tim Burton's Batman would have been nominated for best picture and Jack Nicholson would have won best supporting actor (heck if they're going to give one to Judi Dench for appearing on screen for a few minutes they should have given him two!) Spiderman and Spiderman 2 would have both been nomianted for best picture. And Finally X-Men 2 would have been nominated for best picture and Hugh Jackman nominated for best supporting actor.

pirate Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:39 PM EST

I agree wholeheartedly, Robert Downey Jr. deserves an Oscar and a win, his performance was perfect. I'm not exaggerating, and so I repeat, his portrayal of Tony Stark is dead-on, and absolute perfection. Also Heath Ledger's performance of the Joker gave me goosebumps and at the same time it left me with awe, and it was just the trailer.

Rizzo Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:38 PM EST

After Iron Man ended I had the same thought. Yes a possible Oscar for Iron Man. I can see this happening. Robert Downey Jr. did an excellent job. They should pull a Lord of the Rings production schedule on the sequel and the third installment to this great franchise.
Good job Robert.

Matt Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:34 PM EST

If Emile Hirsch cant get nominated for his great performance in the made for Oscar movie "Into the Wild"...then I highly doubt that Downey will for this movie even if its a slow year for performances. Ledger on the other hand has a whole other thing going for him and is in the lesser supporting actor category. So his nomination is likely.

Ceballos Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:33 PM EST

Also, as Mark Harris said in his column, I think it's more than a little silly to be basing Heath Ledger's Oscar chances based off a trailer. I don't think it's too much to ask to wait till the movie actually comes out and people see his complete performance.

If we want, maybe we can start giving out "Movie Trailer Oscars." Matt Damon may have been nominated last year for his cool "if you were in your office, we'd be having this conversation face-to-face" bit from "Ultimatum."

(I just don't want whatever Oscar buzz might REALLY be to Ledger's work to flame out before the dang movie even comes out.)

Gabe Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:27 PM EST

Hey Helen, it depends on how strict you monitor your kids viewing, but I remember violence (though it wasnt graphic or grotesque, I dont remember the Fword being used at all, though there was a pretty edgy make out scene and an light stripper scene. But like I said it depends on how strict you are. Check this site out for greater details about the conent of the movie.

http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0004046.cfm

Ceballos Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:27 PM EST

Jason-
The problem is not that the Academy should actively seek out $100 million superhero/sci fi flicks to honor. The issue is that the Academy needs to stop (seemingly) disqualifying these movies from serious Oscar contention BECAUSE they happen to be superhero movies.

I think any movie or performance that is superb deserves a chance to be recognized whether the movie or performance is a "summer blockbuster", an intimate indie or an Oscar-baiting drama.

However, just because I don't label summer blockbusters as "not Oscar worthy" doesn't mean I'm naive. I actually agree with you Jason. I don't think it's going to happen for "Iron Man" or Downey. Not because they're not worthy (and by the way, I think Downey is worthy, and the movie itself...not as much) but because it just hasn't happened yet.

My hope is this is the year Hollywood starts changing its thinking and stops automatically disqualifying certain movies because of their budget or genre.

Jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:25 PM EST

(meant to say the scene was NOT that bad)

Jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:24 PM EST

Hellen, I don't remember an F-word in the film, otherwise the language is tame compared to prime-time TV. The violence isn't graphic or bloody (there is a brief torture scene, but it's really that bad), and there's virtually no sexual innuendo.
It depends on the parent, but I honestly don't know why this movie deserved a PG13 rating.

Jonny Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:24 PM EST

Ken I agree with you more on Heath Ledger's performance than RDJ (even though I thought he was great in Iron Man). There is absolutely no trace of Heath Ledger in the Joker; he's completely immersed himself in the part. It's definitely going to be an iconic performance akin to Johnny Depp in the first Pirates. But maybe there's hope. I mean after all the Academy showered nominations on the lame, trying-way-to-hard piece of crap Juno.

Jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:18 PM EST

I don't think it's going to happen. The Academy doesn't actively seek out sci-fi or superhero films to honor, and the only reason the studios lobby for these films is for the technical awards, which brings them more work. Seriously, what the heck is an award worth when you have a $200 million opening weekend worldwide plus merchandising?

This last Academy Awards ceremony was just sad ... like the Academy was saying, "sorry nobody saw your 'poignant' movie; will a trophy make you feel better?"

Hellen Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:15 PM EST

Who can tell me if Iron Man is okay for kids (2nd/4th grade)? It sounds like so much fun, but I hear it's pretty violent and there's an F-word.

Brian Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:13 PM EST

Um, alyse, did you read what I wrote. I loved the Bourne movies and am ALL FOR summer blockbusters. I see them all. But they are not oscar worthy. I am not an elitist, but I know a great film when I see one, and Iron Man is a good film, an entertaining film, but not a classic. My favorite movie is Silence of the Lambs (a popular movie that is also a CLASSIC). You need to read what people write before you go on a misinformed diatribe.

Nick Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:12 PM EST

From about 6 months ago, after hearing about this movie, I pegged it as another quickly pushed out silly marvel movie. Boy was I wrong. Iron Man may be the best Marvel movie to date. And as the author of this article indicates, a big part of it was the acting. Yes! actual acting with actually good actors. Its almost unthinkable to have a cast like this for a Comic book film. But it worked. Paltrow was great!. Downey Jr. was fantastic, blending humor and wit, as well as his trademark charm and penchant for sleeping around. Ed Harris was also very good. I didnt want the movie to end seriously. My only complaint really has nothing to do with the movie itself. Did anyone catch the teaser ending after the credits with Sameul L Jackson as Nick Fury! What the hell. That is one bad casting job.

alyse Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:06 PM EST

Hey Brian, Do you realize what an elitist snob you sound like? "pander to the lowest common denominator?!!" One of the most timeless things about all motion pictures is thier ability to help us ALL escape for a couple of hours. It was that way during the Great Depression, the World Wars and can still be true during any trying time whether they are personal or communal. Sometimes people still want to enjoy themselves and not sit watching the most depressing, gory or depraved content that Hollywood can dish out. What a sad day when a good time is considered watching a murderer go about his day. Yes, movies can send a message and be artistic. But, being the smart guy you obviously are, you could read a newspaper or a book or go to a museum to scratch that itch. Let the poor, unenlightend masses have fun once in a while. It is summer after all. We can worry about politics in Nov. - I mean at the Oscars.

sirkevin Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:05 PM EST

I thought the movie was fantastic. Last year also made me think that summer movies need to be taken seriously. Knocked Up absolutely deserved nods for Best Original Screenplay and for Leslie Mann.

That said, I'm not sure if the performances in this film are Oscar worthy--though definitely rave worthy. I've always thought that blockbuster pictures as a whole carry as much merit as dramatic (often boring) thinkers. Recently, Casino Royale, King Kong, and several years back Jurassic Park were all Best Picture worthy for their pure entertainment value.

Danielle Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:04 PM EST

Mr. Tucker, you are a mind reader! I was thinking this same exact thing just today. I saw the movie Friday and was absolutely blown away by RDJ. Today, I was thinking it was such a shame, because Downey is so not going to get any recognition for his fine, memorable performance. And let's give some props to Jeff Bridges for his very convincing villain and Jon Favreau for his excellent direction. Just an awesome movie all around.

Jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:03 PM EST

The problem with nominating populist movies is that popular movies are rarely more than hyperbolic marketing strategies. Yes, occasionally a popular movie is well-crafted and remembered years later, but this is the exception. Unfortunately, the most artful and meaningful movies are often overlooked until they win or are nominated by Oscar (or some other awards). The Oscars are meant to award artistic merit, not popularity. When a movie kills both those birds with one stone, there is reason to celebrate. Of course, this isn't to say that the Academy almost always gets it wrong (Crash anyone?), but opening the floodgates to popcorn movies would likely be a big mistake. That said, Iron Man is an above average flick with a great performance for Downey Jr. I'm all for nominating his performance if it stands up at the end of the year.

Jarod Mon, May 5, 2008 at 02:00 PM EST

You bet RDJ deserves at least an Oscar nod! Great movie, found it to be true to the original story line of the Great IRONMAN. GREAT CASTING TOO!

Jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:57 PM EST

Ken Tucker has been right in the past and he's been off-base in the past. This time he's dead-on! I don't think it'll happen for Iron Man, maybe it will for Ledger. But I predict the uppity people of the academy to turn their nose up to these movies and chalk them up to "light fare." Guess what academy, Crash doesn't hold up to the test of time, it was light fare. Give some movies with a longer shelf-life a chance.

DV Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:57 PM EST

I don't see where this is coming from at all...I saw it this weekend and I actually didn't think it was that great. In fact, I was bored during a lot of it and kept wondering when it was ever going to end. RDJ and GP hardly had any scenes together, and the dancing scene? I've seen better. Not oscar worthy at all, in my opinion, and I'm all for the blockbusters getting nominated. Just not this one.

guysky Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:54 PM EST

Saw IronMan last night. Oscar, are you kidding? Only if there is a category for Longest Preview. The effects were awesome, but overall the movie was extremely weak. Seems like just the set up for something to actually happen in Iron Man 2.
I like Robert Downey Jr - give him a Nomination for Supporting in Wonder Boys, not for an uninspired genius-in-a-robosuit role.

RayR Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:52 PM EST

I really like the acting here to. I actually cared about these characters unlike say Fantastic Four where the characters were just props. They need to keep Ben Grimm and Jonny Storm and reboot the franchise the FF4 are a waste of time and material.

MP Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:49 PM EST

I definitely agree that Iron Man does deserve some Oscar attention. Robert Downey Jr. was pretty amazing in this film as well as Gwyneth Paltrow and I don't even like most of her films. Batman Begins was robbed and I'm sure Iron Man and The Dark Knight will be overlooked as well, because let's face it the Academy Voters are a bunch of old people who fear explosions, CGI and summer blockbusters. Also to one of the people who commented before, not all Action or Super Hero movies are forgettable. Batman Begins was one of those movies where I will still go back and watch it, because it had a really great story.

MP Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:49 PM EST

I definitely agree that Iron Man does deserve some Oscar attention. Robert Downey Jr. was pretty amazing in this film as well as Gwyneth Paltrow and I don't even like most of her films. Batman Begins was robbed and I'm sure Iron Man and The Dark Knight will be overlooked as well, because let's face it the Academy Voters are a bunch of old people who fear explosions, CGI and summer blockbusters. Also to one of the people who commented before, not all Action or Super Hero movies are forgettable. Batman Begins was one of those movies where I will still go back and watch it, because it had a really great story.

Richard LeComte Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:45 PM EST

It wasn't that long ago that the "summer blockbuster" films did get Oscar nominations -- "Star Wars," "E.T.," etc. What I'd like to do is sit down with a list of the actual Best Picture nominees and assess which big summer movie actually was better than the nominated slate.

Brian Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:41 PM EST

Did any of you SEE all the films that were nominated last year??? Every one of them was amazing. I am all for populist entertainment (and loved Bourne and Batman), but I watch the movies and then forget about them. Whereas movies like No Country, Blood, and Clayton stick with me for a long time. The Academy had it RIGHT last year, its just a shame people don't see the movies. Who cares if the ratings for the Oscars suffer, please dont pander to the lowest common denominator!!!!

Carol Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:14 PM EST

Perfect to see RDJ in form - He is a beauty to watch in this film. His acting and presence are perfect and it is great to see him in a big film/

John W Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:13 PM EST

Next you'll be saying that they're cutting the musical performances from the Oscar telecast...
You so crazy!

Beth Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:09 PM EST

For years, great "summer" movies have been ignored for lame "artsy" films. Batman Begins was amazing. The Bourne Ultimatum was the best movie last year. I could go on and on naming fantastic blockbusters that have been passed over for mediocre serious films. Maybe this year things will change.

JustMe Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:05 PM EST

I think RDJ should get nominated for sure! I won't say he deserves the oscar yet, cause we still have a year ahead of us, but he sure deserves some recognition.
And I agree, the academy doesn't take seriously these big budget and popular movies,I think Matt Damon(bourne) and Amy Adams(enchanted) should have been nominated and johnny depp, LOTR and Ratatouille should have won the oscars...

lordheinrich Mon, May 5, 2008 at 01:02 PM EST

Iron Man has officially joined the short list of Batman Begins, And the first two Superman movies as best Super Hero movies ever.

graeme Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:48 PM EST

No Country for Old Men was amazing...but The Bourne Ultimatum was better.
It got amazing reviews, a lot of prestige actors...so why not nominate it?

It seemed like the Academy figured this out after the noms and then voted for it in every category that it could, having it win 3 technical Oscars.

Ben Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:04 PM EST

I'd support Iron Man for various Oscar nods. I think everybody involved did a great job. It wasn't perfect, but close enough. It would be nice if Marvel could do as well with the Fantastic Four and Captain America.

Mozz Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:00 PM EST

a resounding YES!

jayel Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:57 AM EST

The only reason I want to see Iron Man or The Incredible Hulk or The Dark Knight is the potential for great acting. I'm sick to death of comic book stories, but Robert Downey, Jr., Edward Norton, Christian Bale and Heath Ledger can all lure me back to the cineplex at will.
So yeah, acting Oscars from the summer blockbusters? Absolutely!

Dylan Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:56 AM EST

The "elitists" at the Academy wouldn't dare consider a movie like Iron Man for an Oscar nomination because any movie that is *gasp* FUN TO WATCH, would ruin their naturally dour spirits.

Martha Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM EST

It seems like the only movies nominated for Oscars these days are movies that all but say in the trailer, "This is an Important, Oscar-Worthy Movie." The fact that only these movies get nominated doesn't say good things about the Academy.

Yeags Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:45 AM EST

For the better part of 2 years I've been keeping tabs on this project. I had already made up my mind that there was no way with Downey playing Stark this could work.....boy was I wrong. I attended a premire show Thurs. night and was totally blown away. Time for the "Academy" to come down to Earth and see what the people who spend the money that fuels their industry see, and start showing some recognition where it count.

Laura M Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:39 AM EST

To Chris: Actually, Lord of the Rings 1 and 2 were in fact nominated for Best Picture. LOTR 1 was a hot contender to win, but it lost out to A Beautiful Mind - still don't agree with that choice...

The Best Picture noms of all three LOTR films is one of the few things the Academy has done right lately. Otherwise, their general snubbing of great "action movies" like Batman Begins and The Bourne Ultimatum is dead wrong. Here's hoping this year's incredibly low rated Oscars will finally wake them up, and awesome films like Iron Man and (hopefully) The Dark Knight will finally get nominated, and RDJ and Ledger will get noms too.

And BTW, I totally agree that Ratatouille was the best film of last year.

Lauren Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:32 AM EST

I honestly had not planned on seeing Iron Man, but now I'm seriously reconsidering (not in the least because I adore Robert Downey Jr...one of the most entertaining actors out there, IMO).

Saw a preview this weekend for The Incredible Hulk and I'm VERY excited to see my future husband Edward Norton knock it out of the park.

Jason Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:21 AM EST

Agreed, and I also think that it is time for a few new categories - especially best comedy. It would be a disaster to get too detailed like the Grammys, but a few extra categories would be really beneficial.

CB Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:06 AM EST

Ironman was awesome - but mostly because of Robert Downey Jr. - he has come back from the brink - he has paid his dues - and his performance was Oscar quality - hopefully, he will get nominated instead of some indy film actor that only a few in hollywood think is great. How long has it been since a movie made $100M + in one weekend? It is about time we had some quality entertainment but it wouldn't happen without quality actors like Robert Downey Jr. I look forward to the sequels!

cookiemac Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:02 AM EST

I also went to see Ironman on the weekend, and have to say that I honestly can't remember being more entertained at a movie in many many years. Isn't entertainment what movies are for anyway? Definitely nominate Robert Downey Jr.

Deezer D Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM EST

I think it's funny that a few weeks ago Mark Harris made some summer movie predictions including one about weeks and months of Heath Ledger Oscar buzz ending with the movie finally opening.

Ken Tucker, did you two plan this?

Snarf Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM EST

Wierd! My friend that I went to see iron Man with on Sunday and I were talking about this. If Oscar wants more viewers they need to at least nominate actors and movies that the general public will go see, not just industry types and film buffs. RDJ should really be nominated for his work in Iron Man. So should the Director. Well done guys, well done!

dom Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM EST

Well, Downey deserved an Oscar nomination for best supporting actor last year in Zodiac, and he was snubbed for that, so I would love to see him nominated for Iron Man, he was really good.

The Acadamy lost a lot of credibility with Crash, it'll take awhile to earn that back.

Jennifer Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM EST

I knew the day Heath Ledger died that he'd be getting a Best Supporting Actor nomination next year for playing the Joker. I'll be shocked if he doesn't, and the dang movie hasn't even come out yet -- But if he were still alive, he wouldn't have a chance. In the past few years, the Academy has developed an opinion of Commercial = Bad.

Ceballos Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:08 AM EST

Al Fredo-

If thinking that "Ratatouille" was last year's best picture is blasphemy, then I'm at least as big a blasphemer as you.

http://whatjohnceballosthinks.blogspot.com/2008/02/johns-top-11-movies-of-2007.html

rudy Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:06 AM EST

this was the best movie ever and i think this movie deserves 5 occars and alot more

monica Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:52 AM EST

I agree that comic/action/adventure films should be considered for Oscar nods, but I think it would kind of be a snub to Tobey Maguire and Christian Bale, if Robert Downey Jr. was the first to be nominated for one. However, I had no plans to see Iron Man and after I went with my dad, I was pleasantly surprised by how awesome and funny it was. And I usually don't even like Gwyneth and she was also very enjoyable. Although I wish Terrence Howard didn't have to play such a tight ass dork.

ML Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:46 AM EST

Definately! Depp was robbed in the first Pirates movie!

Dave Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:40 AM EST

Very simply... the Academy needs more categories! Note how many categories the Emmys and Grammys have...millions! Yes, the Academy DID add best animated film a decade or so ago. But they need a "best comedy" category and a "best action adventure" category.

Al Fredo Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:30 AM EST

Absolutely it should, but not sure it will - even if deserved. I see more recognition likely being given for acting performances than for the movie itself, which is too bad because there is inevitable overbias for the traditional Academy darlings in lieu of the the occasional action movie that warrants best picture consideration. Along the same lines, the same should hold true for animation. I personally thought Ratatoille was the best picture last year. But that's probably blasphemy.

Broadway Baby Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:26 AM EST

Ken Tucker for President! (Ceballos as running mate)

LisaMama Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:11 AM EST

Robert Downey and Gywneth Paltrow were fantastic in Iron Man. I agree that Matt Damon deserves an award for the Bourne films, too. The guy was brilliant.

Tiffany Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:11 AM EST

Robert Downey, Jr. should get more respect from the Academy. So does Christian Bale, I have like them both since the beginning of time, but since they are both still constantly working, I really don't think that either cares about that stuff.

Here is what the academy has boiled down to, the nominations equals more theatre expansions, therefore more money, whether the movies are worth the hype or not, people will go see them at least once to make up their minds. You academy voters, you devils you!

Jackie Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:03 AM EST

I AGREE I AGREE!!

Along with having the Oscar Ballot-Caster people watch movies, they should also read EW/EW.com!!!! The Oscars would be sooooooo much better!!

Catherine Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:03 AM EST

There shouldn't be exception, a movie is a movie, but the academy (and don't get me wrong, I did love some movie nominated at the Oscar) seems to be sucking all the fun from the Oscar!!! Generally, it seems the more depressing a movie is, the more chance it has to be nominated! In my humble opinion, Batman Begins was excellent, and so was Iron Man, pure fun, entertainment, story telling and acting that should be recognize!! (And I have this crush on Robert Downey Jr. since a long time, but that is getting off of the subject...)

RP Mon, May 5, 2008 at 09:02 AM EST

Ken Tucker you speak the truth (as well as the previous commentors).

If only the Academy were "taking this seriously"! A nomination for Iron Man and The Dark Knight would be beyond awesome.

Ceballos Mon, May 5, 2008 at 08:23 AM EST

Unfortunately, Johnny Depp's nomination for "Pirates" seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

I would also like to see some of the summer blockbusters and bigger movies in general get some Oscar love, not so much because it might make more people watch the Oscars, but because there is some genuinely brilliant work shining through all the spectacle.

I 100% agree with Jim that "Bourne Ultimatum", "Casino Royale" and "Batman Begins" deserved some Oscar noms in major categories. Back in the day, movies like "Jaws", "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "The Fugitive" could get nominated for Best Picture.

I don't know if I'd nominate "Iron Man" for "Best Picture", but if, at the end of the year, it stands up as one of the stronger movies, I'd love to see it get a nod over the token British period piece, or token quirky indie.

Also, Downey Jr. WAS fantastic and award-worthy playing every aspect of Stark.

Chris Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:48 AM EST

I always knew they should have nominated The Lord of the Rings Part I and II, but they did not, and all 3 movies were the same quality. The fans are not too far away from the truth. The Academy failed with the Oscar that Denzel got from Traning Day when John Q was a far superior movie and he should have got the Oscar for his out of this world performance. Buy the academy gave it for acting as a bad guy, which to me was not anything out of the norm. But that is how the academy is. So I hope that if Iron Man deserves it, gets nominated and let it be.

Steve Mulder Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:45 AM EST

Two words, Robert Downey! He nailed both roles, Stark and Iron Man. Great acting, directing and EFX. Very faithful to the comic book. A sequel is a certainty. Oh, and did you catch Stan Lee as HEF?

Futureosophy Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:40 AM EST

Sure for something no doubt, but the roll out of films to come is too great and the season to early to start buzzing. Let's not forget their is an aging Harrison Ford who's all but retired about to hit the screen.

www.futureosophy.blogspot.com

charlotte Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:34 AM EST

I took my sons to see Iron Man. I did not expect to like it as well as I did. It was different than a lot of the comic book movies we are use to seeing. Downey made the movie. His performance was great. Loved him!!

kim in kentucky Mon, May 5, 2008 at 07:00 AM EST

Johnny Depp got nominated for the first Pirates -- so maybe they will seriously consider Downey!

Jim Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:50 AM EST

I haven't seen the movie, but I agree with this sentiment. The Bourne Ultimatum should have been nominated last year, Casino Royale in 2006 and Batman Begins in 2005.

Allison Mon, May 5, 2008 at 06:45 AM EST

I too went to see Iron Man this weekend and I think Downey's acting is superb. Out of the Best Acting nominees I saw only 3 performances and had no desire to see the rest. Downey's transformation from snarky womanizer to soft hearted defender is fabulous. Academy take notice!