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J.K. Rowling outs Dumbledore!

Oct 20, 2007, 10:20 AM | by Tina Jordan

Categories: Books, Harry Potter

Potter_lFirst things first: At last night's talk at New York City's Carnegie Hall — an event for thousands of young Harry Potter fans and their parents — J.K. Rowling outed the kindly headmaster.

Responding to a question from a child about Dumbledore's love life, Rowling hesitated and then revealed, "I always saw Dumbledore as gay." Filling in a few more details, she said, "Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald.... Don't forget, falling in  love can blind us. [He] was very drawn to this brilliant person. This was Dumbledore's tragedy." She added that in a recent meeting about the sixth movie, she spied a line in the script where Dumbledore waxed poetic about a girl, so she was forced to scribble director David Yates a note to correct the situation.

So how did all those lucky kids get to sit in the baronial gilt and red velvet splendor of Carnegie Hall? First they won a sweepstakes event created by Rowling's publisher, Scholastic, and then they flew to New York from all over the country. As I waited in line in the unseasonal muggy New York heat to enter the famous concert hall, I chatted up the father and daughter in front of me. They'd just flown in from Nashville (what's more, their plane had been delayed, so they'd arrived at the concert hall with mere minutes to spare). As I canvassed more families, I found they'd come from all over the country — from as far away as Arizona, Washington, Minnesota, and Texas (it was rumored some came from Hawaii, but I didn't verify that).

When the line, snaking around the block, began moving at 6:30, it moved fast. By 7:00 everyone was seated, the red-jacketed ushers were shushing and closing the box doors, and the event host, MSNBC news anchor Keith Olbermann, took the stage. But not center stage, which was dominated by an enormous, velvet-upholstered, carved wooden chair — a throne, really — planted on a Persian carpet. Gesturing to it, Olbermann joked, "That's not sufficient for someone who'll be signing that many copies" — a reference to the fact that, after the reading, Rowling would be signing a copy of Hallows for every single sweepstakes winner.

The crowd was polite to Olbermann, but when a smiling Rowling finally strode on stage, perfectly blonded and coiffed, fingernails shellacked to a brilliant red, stilettos clicking, they went absolutely mad, screaming, jumping to their feet, even crying. Gently, in true mom fashion, she shushed them, and began to read from the seventh book. She's a brilliant reader, funny and quick, doing all the voices with comic perfection — Ron was abashed and sullen; Hermione, squeaky with rage; Harry, exhausted with the effort to appease the two. (She even made herself giggle in places as she read.) When she finished the crowd rose to its feet again, even as she tried, in vain, to get them sit. "Don't make me cry!" she kept saying. Finally everyone did sit, and the question-and-answer session could begin. The lucky questioners had mostly been chosen in advance (though a few were plucked at random); at least one little girl — 8 years old — could barely reach the microphone.

Neville's love life? "He marries Hannah Abbott!" she announced as the crowd squealed its appreciation. (What's more, Hannah becomes proprietress of The Leaky Cauldron, so Neville becomes cool to his students.)

Why is it Molly Weasley who kills Bellatrix? One, "Molly is a very good witch," even though most people don't realize it. And two, "Bellatrix is as obsessed with Voldemort as Molly is consumed with maternal love." What was it like to finish book seven? "It felt like a bereavement." Were there intentional similarities between Voldemort and Hitler? Yes, there were. The books, she said, were "a plea for an end to hatred, to bigotry" as well as a lesson for kids "to question authority.... You should not assume the establishment tells you the truth." Did Hagrid ever find love? Alas, no (though that had something more to do with the rarity of giantesses than any personality defect on Hagrid's part). To one boy, who revealed his dad had read the series, but not his mom, she said, "If I've got time to write 'em, she's got time to read 'em!" As the crowd roared with laughter, she added, "Is your mom here? Who did you come with?" (Dad, not Mom.)

By 8:20 it was over — the talking part, anyway. Rowling, flexing her hands, announced she had to limber up in order to sign all the books, which were stacked in enormous piles next to the stage. Was she really going to do scrawl her distinctive signature that many times? Yes, she was — and the kids, who were now going to be within touching distance of her, became downright emotional.

As for me, a member of the press, I was shunted back out into the hot October night, where it had started to rain. "That was great!" shouted a reporter next to me. Yes, it was. Like those kids, I'll remember it for the rest of my life.

On the train ride home, as I mulled over the evening, I kept trying to figure out which my favorite book of the series was. Four? Seven? Five? I've got a great argument for each of those. But I just couldn't make up my mind. All of you out there — can any of you say what your favorite is?

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P Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM EST

Dumbledore Gay? Well why not... just look at his half moon glasses and purple robes :)

I don't understand people raving about this. Homosexuality was very common in ancient Greece and most of our culture comes from there.

Ross Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 07:31 PM EST

Why did she wait until later to out Dumbledore?

Because before she did, millions of children around the world read the last book, and to them Dumbledore was immortalized. He made them believe that there is still good in our dark world.

Then they found out that the greatest wizard of all time is homosexual, making readers wonder if it is a problem that their fictional hero is gay.

Christians believe that God and the Devil act through people. If thats true, then to them J.K. Rowling is the Devil.

john Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 06:00 AM EST

Harry Potter on blu-ray or hddvd, disscus.......

to john Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:43 PM EST

the only negative effect this could have on a child's attitude is if they learn to discriminate gay people

john Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:48 PM EST

i am very saddened by jk rowlings comment that dumbledore is a big poofta & i don't think that children should be subjected to this subject, i think it could have harmfull effects on their attitudes & their outlook on life.

krickt Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 04:26 AM EST

here's my view:
everyone is right
or
everyone is wrong

pick one

to christain homsexuality is wrong and immoral becuase they CHOOSE to live by a book that says so.
athiest believe that following a 2000 year old book isn't logical and CHOOSE to believe in their own morals (which are 80% aprx the same as what the bible says anyway.)

if your view aren't hurting anyone (I know some people believe the actions of gays hurt god but that's his choice to get hurt by them) then there's nothing wrong with believing them.
we should not be defined by what we believe 'christianity' 'athiest 'gays'are just labels, a concept in our heads and vibrations of our thoughts.
it is our actions that defined us and who we are so that how we should be judge.
If you our hateful towards people of different faiths or race then you are a hateful person.
If you refuse to accept other's points of veiw. You are blinded by yourself.
It takes all types to make the world, extreamist and a**holes included

Heather Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 09:55 AM EST

I personaly think it's great that she decided to bring him out of the closet It totaly brings meaning to the books and as to why Dumbledore adored Harry so much.I don't Know why ya'll are anti-gay. My birthmother is a lesbian. I mean after all this is a free country and we all have our own beliefs as we all have our reasons. I support Dumbledore 100%.Ron and Hermione on the other hand......
LOL!! Agian it's no BIG deal that he's gay atleast harry isn't.Oh I'm also known as Forwheelgurl on Nick.com. Check out my Nick page.

Mookie Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 08:33 PM EST

Wow all this over Dumbledore being gay. Imagine when people find out Gandalf is gay. Oh and Hedwig too!

Meghan Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 01:40 AM EST

It was an amazing night! I was the first person to ask Jo a question, and it was such an emotional experience for me. When I had to go back to the room where the press was, I was just sobbing!

Yes, people did come from Hawaii! The little 8 year-old girl was from there, I sat by her. I'm from Arizona, and it was definitely worth it to fly in.

Alex Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:50 AM EST

Kudos to JK! She's a smart woman!

Alex Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:47 AM EST

I really don't see why Dumbledore being gay ruins the entire series. The Series is called HARRY POTTER... not Dumbledore. His sexuality was never an integral part of the plot. It was hinted at with his friendship with Grindewald. But alot of the professors at Hogwarts never had their sexualities spewed out over the pages of Harry Potter... McGonagall, Sprout, Slughorn, Hooch, etc... none of then were mentioned either. The only one was Snape, because that WAS integral to the plot. And fr your information, some of the history's greatest were gay such as, Alexander the Great & Sir Alan Turing.

Anyone reading too much into the Dumbledore/Harry relationship... get over yourselves. If you think just because a guys gay that they like young boys then by your own logic, a man who is hetrosexual MUST like young girls. Keep your hatred and bigotry to yourselves.

The books had an underlying theme about how people should unite against hatred and bigotry to one another. Anyone remember Hitler?

Caitlin Sun, Dec 9, 2007 at 06:23 PM EST

Ok, first off: Enough with the Tolkien bashing. If you want to rail on someone's religion, you are just as bad as the people bashing Dumbledore for being a gay character. Tolkien's faith was a very private part of his life, & was not in LotR half as much as Lewis put in Narnia.

Also, those who get uppity about Dumbledore & who claim JK is just an attention whore need to grow up. This is a series that is relevant & speaks to many people; who are you to drag that through the dirt? The same goes for Tolkien. Both Tolkien & Rowling are magnificent writers whose "fantasies" reflect more about the world than you bigots & fools dare to admit, more than some of the "normal" novels being spit out today. Look at the hearts of the stories, for once: they are about compassion, self-sacrifice, courage, hope, and love. It is disturbing that people can't see that, & decide they have nothing better to do with their lives than insult those who are talented & use their talents for the good.

Fri, Dec 7, 2007 at 06:15 PM EST

GROW UP all of you! you are all acting like children.

carrie Wed, Dec 5, 2007 at 05:15 PM EST

you people are all rather sad and stuck in your ways...burn the jews and kill the gays? where do you get off saying things like that? and global warming doesnt exist davey? open your eyes man. just becasue america is blind to the fact that we cannot abuse the planet like we are it doenst mean there will be no largescale consequences for our actions. get a job or a hobby

Tim Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:35 PM EST

You people are so uninformed (and happy about it) it's sad.

Alan Zeino Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:51 AM EST

How true it is of the theists that they have to sully an excellent article with their 'Hell' and their 'God'.

It's YOUR Hell, so YOU burn in it.

Davey Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 05:27 AM EST

I hate how religious people have to always constantly remind that they are going to hell. I would rather spend eternity in hell than spend an eternity with a bunch of brain washed idiots. God is made up like Santa Claus, you are all brain washed to think that if you don't Obey the rules than the worst will happen to you. Its cool if you want to believe bullshit but don't shove your beliefs down the throats of others. Its already bad enough that people believe that they are going to die from global warming. which is also a myth...

john Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 04:07 AM EST

WoW a website full of bitchin' & nasty comments why not talk about something nice like chritmas. christmas is a time for giving, forgiving, getting drunk, receiving, being with the family & watching Harry Potter on the tv.

my christmas wish list is a 42" full 1080p HD widescreen plasma tv, & all the Harry Potter films on blu-ray hi-def.

p.s. I am open to any offers.

to john Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:49 PM EST

Good for you. A diversity of religious affiliations is what makes the world great. As well as genders, races, and sexualities.

john Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:03 PM EST

oh i forgot to mention i am an atheist (ithink i have spelt it right) so for me any religious comment is totally meaningless

stephen2 Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 02:23 PM EST

Um, whoever used my name below can stop. Thanks.

stephen Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:41 PM EST

I've always considered myself open minded. I apologize for attacking like a bat outta hell right away. I wrote it in the heat of the moment, it's just that my family thinks they can cram their beliefs down my throat. But, we don't talk anymore, as I said, they're not too fond of my "choice." Oh well. Take care.

Taryn Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:13 PM EST

I'm OK with that. My intention was never to force my beliefs on you. I just hope you're a little more open-minded now. I know I am.

to Taryn Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:06 AM EST

Then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

Taryn Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:56 AM EST

You asked, "I found it odd you said what happens after I am born is out of God's hands somewhat. If that were true, why do so many people pray to him, if it's out of his hands?" It's not out of his hands, he always has the power to change things. Always. But when you're born you're given free will, and from that point on you can make decisions about your life. But prayer can definitely change you. Thanks for pointing that out, I worded it wrong.
And I do think that God made people different. Again, and you already know this, I don't think that God created you as a homosexual. I think that happened from outside influences once you were born.

to taryn Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 12:22 AM EST

I found it odd you said what happens after I am born is out of God's hands somewhat. If that were true, why do so many people pray to him, if it's out of his hands? Also, you claimed ppl shouldn't marry someone they don't love. If you believe that, then why don't you believe God made ppl different, in terms of either gender, race, or sexuality?

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:42 PM EST

Hahaha, religious freak, I love it! Thanks for the compliment, shaaaaaaayna (did I get enough a's in there?)

I don't think I contradicted myself in any way. What part were you talking about?

to taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:27 PM EST

I love what you just wrote, but it seemed to contradict former posts. The life I live and ppl I choose to love is not a choice, it's the way I am. I knew I was different when I was quite young, and felt I was a disgrace to society. Growing up in a deeply religious family, I prayed to be fixed, even cured. I contemplated suicide, to be completely honest. I tried to look at the opposite sex in the way I felt I should, but nothing happened. And when I finally told my family, you can guess how they reacted. All I truly want is for Catholics/Christians to practice their religion in peace, and for the gay community to live their lives in peace. There are much bigger problems then something like gay marriage. I'm more worried about the war.

shaaaaaaaayna Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:26 PM EST

OMG "Taryn" you are such a religious freak....please get your bigoted self off this message board. no one wants to hear your crap so STOP POSTING k thanks

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:10 PM EST

Also you asked, "What would you prefer, for a gay person to marry someone of the opposite sex, lie to them and cover up with more lies, have kids and lie to them?" Uhhh, NO. That would be just as bad as a heterosexual marrying someone of the same sex. No one should ever marry someone they don't love.

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:07 PM EST

First off I want to say I'm really, really sorry if I came off as condescending. I didn't mean to at all. I'm no better than the next person and certainly no better than you. So again, sorry.
OK, so, to answer your question, "If I'm a mistake of God, then why should I pray to him for screwing up my life?"....You're not a mistake of God. God made you just the way he wanted you. He didn't screw you up. No one, NO ONE is a mistake of God. What happened after you were born is out of his hands somewhat, because you have free will.
I understand what you mean about homosexuals having this stuff shoved down their throats, so I won't mention the Bible if you don't want me to. But the bottom line is that God is always waiting for you. If you pray, he'll listen. It might not seem like it sometimes, but he does. If you want to know more I'll answer but I won't go into it if you don't want to hear it. So let me know.

to taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 04:43 PM EST

Your "Argument" was not based on fact, but rather a book I don't personally believe in. And it seems to me you are trying to show superiority by claiming me as practicing a sinful life, and I'm not what God created. If I'm a mistake of God, then why should I pray to him for screwing up my life? Please let me know. I respect your beliefs. I don't respect the fact that you think homosexuals are sinners for living the life the way that's intended. What would you prefer, for a gay person to marry someone of the opposite sex, lie to them and cover up with more lies, have kids and lie to them?

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 04:00 PM EST

And oh my gosh, I am not trying to prove that you are "lower than me"! That's ridiculous. And I'm not trying to prove that you are "such a sinner and you're going to burn with the devil." That's not what I'm about at all. You seem to think that I want to prove I'm right so it'll prove you're horrible. I'm not. I'm showing you that God exists, so you can open your eyes!!

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:44 PM EST

FYI I'm not shoving it down your throat. I am giving proof, an argument. However, it seems that you are more interested in spouting off than actually discussing something.

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:38 PM EST

For the record, I don't really care what you call me. Homophobe, bigot, Attila the Hun....I'm trying my hardest to follow God's teaching. If that gets me branded a homophobe, then so be it. I couldn't care less.

And it's funny that you're "done with me" now that I gave you a good, solid argument. Now who's the person that doesn't want to hear the truth?

to taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:18 PM EST

And what's funny is now you'll post some long rant because you either
a) MUST have the last word
b) feel the need to say you prayer for me and God forgives me
c) claim you're not a bigot and yell at me for using a cliche
d0 say I'm such a sinner and I'll burn with the devil.
Either way, I don't care. Say what you want. I know you will to allow yourself to think you won this argument. I'll bet my life you post again instead of being the bigger person. Prove me wrong. Prove I'm lower than you.

to taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:15 PM EST

You know what, I'm done with you. You're an idiot and a homophobe. Sorry for the cliche words. I stopped reading once you spouted off all the Bible names. Stop forcing your crap down people's throats. There is no proof that stuff occured. Oh, and you say God didn't create homosexuals? Did he tell you that?
P.S. I do have a name, but you're too bigoted to know it. (Sorry, another cliche word! Hope that doesn't bother you too much!).

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:11 PM EST

And even if they were born that way... that does not give them permission to be in same sex relationships. Say a man is born a kleptomaniac. Should he be given the freedom to steal because "he was born that way?" It's not about psychological predisposition, it's about morality and obedience.

Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:03 PM EST

God did not "create" them that way. Why would he create them with sinful tendencies? They were socially preconditioned. Yes, probably at a young age. But they were not "born" that way. God did not instill that in them.
The Bible states in several places that homosexuality is immoral. Take Soddom and Gomorrah. Both Peter and Jude make reference to it and describe homosexuality as "ungodly, lawless, unnatural and extreme immorality". (2 Peter 2:6, 8; Jude 7).
Not to mention one of the most obvious parts of all...that sex of any kind, heterosexual or homosexual, is immoral if outside of marriage. Homosexuals cannot marry in the church. That alone makes it immoral.

By the way, do you have a name?

to Taryn Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 07:57 AM EST

Homosexuality is acceptable the same way being a woman or African American or having skin is acceptable. It's the way you are born. I'll take a book from your page and say that's the way od made them. It is not a choice. If it were, do you honestly believe someone would choose to be discriminated, called names, and be made to feel as if they're not worthy?
The fact is you're getting very touchy if I call you homophobic. Perhaps you don't like hearing the truth. Is the truth unacceptable as well?

Taryn Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:38 PM EST

Please stop throwing around cliche words("homophobic", "bigotry".) So far all you've done is called me names. Do you have a logical argument explaining why you think homosexuality is acceptable?

to Taryn Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:11 PM EST

Saying homosexuality is immoral and a sin is homophobic. It's all right if you're homophobic. God forgives you and loves you anyway.

Taryn Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:30 PM EST

Homophobic?! Where did that come from? I just got done saying that homosexuals should be treated with love and respect.....is that your definition of homophobia??!?!

to Taryn Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:07 PM EST

So I guess I can still love you despite your homophobia and bigotry

Taryn Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:38 AM EST

Homosexuality IS evil. It IS wrong. It is a misuse of our sexual ability and everything God taught us. Sex is for a man and a woman.
And to clarify.. just because someone does something immoral (i.e. homosexuality) that does not mean the person is beyond hope, or that the person should not be loved. That is what I meant.

to Taryn Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:58 PM EST

You made no sense. If homosexuality is evil, as you claim, then someone who does that is evil. (And homosexuality is NOT evil. I repeat: homosexuality is NOT evil).

Taryn Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:36 PM EST

All right, I would just like to clarify something to all those anti-Christians out there. CHRISTIANS DON'T HATE GAYS. Maybe I should repeat. CHRISTIANS DON'T HATE GAYS!!!!! God taught "Hate the sin, love the sinner." Homosexuality is immoral, but that doesn't mean that homosexuals should be shunned. They should be loved by Christians just like everyone else. So again..Homosexuality is evil, but that does not mean that homosexuals are evil.

Momofthree Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:15 AM EST

Dear John Doe, Have you been in a coma for the last 30 years? The gay and lesbian issue has been debated over and over, to no avail. Everyone has an opinion. Except for my 17 year old daughter whose apparent apathy towards social and political issues is just a sign of her immaturity. I find many people will say "indifference" but are really afraid to delve deeper into their own consciousness for fear of having to reconcile their own misperceptions.

john doe Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:27 AM EST

i dont see what dumlydore being gay has anything to do with the story. why not just leave his oreintation alone and please straight, gays, and bisexuals? come on guys.

to momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 01:39 PM EST

peace

Momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 12:23 PM EST

I also apologize for my previous narrow minded comments. I hope for you a fulfilling spiritual journey, and maybe also, that you may find compassion for those who do not yet understand. Peace.

to momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 11:00 AM EST

Yes, it's the same person, as I hope you have been the same person, and this new enlightened one isn't another popwatcher. I apologize for saying vulgar things about your religion, it's just that I'm and sick and tired of the "God condems gays" argument. Thank you for presenting your p.o.v. and always keep in mind that someone like Hitler started out small, and then it blew up. (No, I'm not saying yuou're like Hilter, for the record. lol).

Momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 10:56 AM EST

Well, I have to say-thank you-I am sure this this is the same person I have been discussing this with all along-and, really, it has been quite a lesson in compassion and understanding. I still don't know if I can say that I condone it, but I CAN say now that my self-righteousness and arrongance on this topic has historically been quite ugly. My only hope now is that I have not done irrepairable damage to those whose suffering I may never fully comprehend.

to momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 10:18 AM EST

Thank you for seeing what we have all been saying. Also, I would like to add about Dumbledore's sexuality. Parents are upset about discussing it with their kids, but every reader here has said they never thought about it, so why would future readers? Also, Dumbledore could be an excellent role model for any young reader who thinks they might be gay. He was a hero, and by him being gay would show that sexuality will never define who you are. I mean, I choose Dumbledore over Larry Craig as an icon, but that's just me.

Momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 09:40 AM EST

Well, I don't know if I would go as far as to say I've "come to my senses", but I have been examining the suffering of others. Something seems a bit off kilter to look the other way on such a huge societal issue. Making others feel shameful is WRONG. I wonder how many people don't even think about how they might slowly be destroying someone's inner core (because this is the first time I ever have). And it makes me think that we might be the cause of the "monster" it has become, because it has never been discussed in a loving, compassionate way.

to momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 08:53 AM EST

Thank you for finally coming to your senses

Momofthree Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 07:57 AM EST

Last night I was thinking about this and in some respects, you are right. If you are born with those desires, and then society (and people like me) shame you for that, I can see how it would be a miserable life for you. Although my empathy, which cannot be compared to sympathy because I do not suffer with that, cannot fully comprehend your plight. If it is not condoned in the Bible, how far do we, as Christians take that? I think what the Episcopal Church is doing now is trying to iron that out. But a friend of mine and I were discussing this last night and she said that she will default on love. Over the centuries, gays have been vilely mistreated; even over the last few decades, I can see the hatred directed at them. I think that sometimes (actually most of the time) it is easier to just say "it's a sin, don't do it" that to explore the fine details. Also, my friend said to tell you-all gays are welcome at the Episcopal church, they embrace you.

hey there Wed, Nov 7, 2007 at 09:27 PM EST

hey all u anti-gay christian people? f**k off. because you're supposed to love all and be tollerant, but that's all b.s. to you, because anyone who's not like you is automatically wrong. and actually you guys are wrong.

Yuki Wed, Nov 7, 2007 at 07:32 PM EST

That's the thing: nobody's forcing it! The matter of his sexuality isn't discussed at all in the books; he was gay, but if you don't want your kid to know for whatever reason, there's no point in refusing to let them read the books. Besides, it's not "sexuality", it's "attraction". If you're a person who believes in acceptance or at least tolerance, I should think it would be common sense to expose your child or yourself to homosexuality, in the attraction sense; it's NOT all about sex, FYI.

By the way... Rowling has stated MULTIPLE times, THE BOOKS ARE NOT CHILDREN'S BOOKS. They're written for whoever wants to read them, not specifically for children. Please get your facts straight, thanks.

Appalled and discusted. Wed, Nov 7, 2007 at 10:32 AM EST

I got these books when I was in first grade. I started reading them in second grade and now I am terribly upset with Rowling be cause I don't think that 2nd graders should start thinking about the sexual interests of gay people. They should not be exposed to that until they are older.

to dumbledore's mom Wed, Nov 7, 2007 at 08:56 AM EST

get a dictionary

Dumbledore's Mom Tue, Nov 6, 2007 at 07:33 PM EST

Interesting all folks keep referring to the Catholic priests and how they have abused so many - I'm not Catholic, but I always wondered why men would choose a life in an institution with only men - hmmmmm - Maybe they don't like women??

to momofthree Tue, Nov 6, 2007 at 05:08 PM EST

Please lay off the bottle before you post. So gay people must beg for forgiveness from God, (if he exists), after he made them that way? AND they must remain celibate and never find love? Got it. Please just go take care of your kids, even though I think they're better off without you. Priests are molesting little boys, and you still admire them, but gay men fall in love with grown gay men, and you tell them to go to rehab? Got it.

Momofthree Tue, Nov 6, 2007 at 03:43 PM EST

Just because you are gay doesn't mean that you can't believe in Christ. Anyway, to the man out there who is Christian: what church do you belong to? Because I have an Episcopalian friend who, as you know, has a gay Bishop, and they would never be as rude to me as you were. Also, just because homosexuality is a sin, does not mean it is unforgivable. I think the only way Dumbledore here can be redeemed is to show that, yes, some people are born with that tendancy. But not acting on it, as I see no signs that he did (he was in love, not sexually involved) will show that it is possible for gays to live an honorable lifestyle (as they struggle with their sin)and be very much Christian. We all sin. I am very much a sinner. That is why I am very happy to know that someone paid the price and pronounce me "not guilty". I will sin until the day I die. Gay's sin is no worse than mine. It is about being repentant and admitting it, then asking forgiveness, which is freely given.

to dumbledore's mom Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 10:27 PM EST

If you really think momofthree is right in her views, then you must be blaming yourself for making your son gay.
P.S. momofthree, maybe you should go take care of these alleged three, before your daughter spreads it to the world and your son b***s men on corners for money to support his drug habit.
P.P.S Jesus has a big c**k! And I would know

Dumbledore's Mom Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 09:44 PM EST

No, I am Dumbledore's Mom! I don't know who momofthree is but she is the only one with any sense here. I don't know who JK thinks she is, he was my son!! I think she should be sued for slander.

Dumbledore's Mom Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 09:44 PM EST

No, I am Dumbledore's Mom! I don't know who momofthree is but she is the only one with any sense here. I don't know who JK thinks she is, he was my son!! I think she should be sued for slander.

to dumbledore's mom Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 09:33 PM EST

momofthree, is that you?

Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 09:25 PM EST

Well there you go. I guess our conversation is over now. His mother has come from the grave to settle this matter once and for all. JK, did you ever think your story would become bigger than you?

Dumbledore's Mom Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 09:16 PM EST

My Son was NOT gay! How dare you say that, just because he was friends with Grindlewald is no reason to tell such lies!!


Dumbledore's Mom Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 09:16 PM EST

My Son was NOT gay! How dare you say that, just because he was friends with Grindlewald is no reason to tell such lies!!


to momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 08:57 PM EST

Um, never asked for your approval, but thanks anyway! And I'll bust that door down to get away from the molesting priests up in heaven.
P.S. What will you do if your kid is gay, perform an exorcism?

Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 07:51 PM EST

One last comment-The door to hell is locked from the INSIDE.

Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 07:32 PM EST

acceptance is not approval

to Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 06:52 PM EST

I've thought about it. Christians/Catholics preach tolerance and think gay people shove their lifestyle down their throats. But, who comes knocking at my door with pamphlets? Who calls me to ask if I ave accepted a certain someone as my savior? Nope, not Neil Patrick Harris! We don't advocate diversity, because we are just like you. We are people, and we want to be accepted. We preach acceptance. If that is a sin, then I'll enjoy my time in hell.

Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 06:37 PM EST

If you are interesting in historical proof, there are many good resources out there; I would check the bookstore or library. I am not mean or hateful to people that are gay. Which is more than I can say for the gay people on this site. You advocate diversity, yet I have seen very cruel comments directed at me-someone who does not share your views. Think about it.

Ashlyn Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 06:20 PM EST

I just loved the whole series in general. My favorite book is the Seventh one. I think J. K. Rowling did a superb job. It was amazing!

to Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 06:13 PM EST

Yes, you are prejudice. Just because something was taught long before your unfortunate existence came along, doesn't mean you have to push it. Plus, what proof is there that the crap in the Bible even occured? I won't place my life in a little metal cross with a guy hanging on it.

Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 02:22 PM EST

Now, now...I'm not the one who came up with all this. This is what has been taught long before I ever came along. And I am very happy to hear that there are gay people out there who do not have depression, are suicidal or involved with drugs or alcohol. You are in the minority. I know you are upset with me, but I really am not prejudice.

To David Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 05:43 AM EST

As you sleep,
The sweet sweat from our encounter seeps down your luscious face,
My serpent found its resting place,
How you made love with surplus grace.
You gave your juice for me to taste,
A smear of it I did not waste,
At first the sex was slowly paced,
But your screams drove on for greater haste,
Oh my... your luscious face.

ILOVEYOUDUMBLEDORE!!

(in your face momofthree)

to Momofthree Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 05:40 AM EST

I am a very Christian completely heterosexual male, and honestly say I think your opinion is the most homophobic thing I have ever read. I fully accept people are homosexual and am fine with it. To say that all gay people are depressed or on drugs is completely bigotted and inaccurate. I know several gay people, all of whom lead happy lifestyles, and in other respects are no different to me in the slightest. To say that "promoting the gay lifestyle as an alternative lifestyle is wrong" is so unbelievably narrow-minded and prejudiced. It is people like you who make the world a worse place - not homosexual individuals.

Yuki, to mom of three Sun, Nov 4, 2007 at 10:41 PM EST

Well, I kinda sit here and debunk your assumption of gayness equaling depression... I'm nearly completely happy, and I'm gay. I've not thought about suicide, I don't have depression, I'm happy. I guess that's a bit mind-blowing, ain't it?

to Momofthree Sun, Nov 4, 2007 at 06:05 PM EST

Gay men and lesbians have higher rates of suicide, depression, and alcoholism because scum like you make them think there's something wrong with them. People are born the way they are, and they cannot help it. I want you to remember that when you are visiting your deceased closeted child after they hung themselves in the closet of a gay rehab center. And don't say you are not a hateful bigot, because the fact that you still post on this thread weeks later shows how much hatred you really have.

Momofthree Sun, Nov 4, 2007 at 08:54 AM EST

The concern I have now is that the last 2 film will have these undertones to them that the books did not. I will be nervous letting my kids watch them because I do not want to have to explain why someone is living that way and they think it is okay. So far, JK has followed the same moral code; it would be devastating to see it twist.

Momofthree Sun, Nov 4, 2007 at 08:40 AM EST

There seems to be a misunderstanding about homosexuality. Our Creator did not make us to be that way. Men are suppose to procreate with women. If you have an attration to the same sex, it is a perversion. Just as having the desire to drink too much, or over eating, or any other kind of perversion. It is Original Sin. It's not the sinner that you hate, it is the sin. There are many people who are in recovery from the gay lifestyle just as there are many people in recovery from alcoholism. I have known many gay people and they know that their lifestyle is not a very happy one. The statistics show it. They have a higher rate of depression, suicide and drug and alcohol abuse. Everyone has their own sin that they struggle with. The only problem I do have is this: The gay lifestyle is not something I agree with. To promote it as an alternative lifestyle is not right. And with JK saying Dumbledore was gay, it sounds as though she is okay with this lifestyle.

Momofthree Sun, Nov 4, 2007 at 08:26 AM EST

Homosexuality is a perversion. I think that many people misunderstand Christians and think they are just being mean. We are not. Our Creator did not mean for

Aragrist Thu, Nov 1, 2007 at 10:34 AM EST

I don't mean to stray to far from the main subject but. Did anyone ever wonder about Albus's brother? He seemed to have a love affair with goats. J.K. mentions it a lot in her writing. I wonder if he is a zoo for goats? Maybe the reason for being in prison was that he was caught in a romantic situation with a goat. I would love to be able to ask her about this. The Dumbledores seem to have a natural lean toward the uncommon sexual behaviors.

To John Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:19 AM EST

Sarcasm only works if you present yourself as an intelligent person. Your spelling pretty much undermined you intent.

john Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 04:42 AM EST

Maybe dumbledore should visit saudi arabia, he will be well looked after their.

Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:59 PM EST

just as heterosexuality does not equal rapist. Thirdly, I am in complete agreement that I dislike that there are those out there who find homosexuality immoral and use hate language, but I think those who are responding by personally attacking those posters (esp when commenting things referring to them being sexually abused, or needing to kill themselves for their hate!?!) is just as despicable. Let's ALL try and respect each others opinions and not force our beliefs on anyone else. Sure, I think it's a shame that someone would hate the books now just because of this or not let their kids read them, but that's their choice. They're the ones who will be missing out. Lastly, there was one comment that was more ludicrous than others: something about "how can you not think homosexuality is gross -- look at rosie o'donnell". To that person I just have to say, there are millions of heterosexual people I don't find attractive, that doesn't mean being straight is gross. What a bizarre argument

sarah Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:52 PM EST

As I was reading these comments I was just stunned by so many remarks. Firstly, so many people are forgetting that JK said SHE always saw him as gay...he is her character and she was developing him and the others for so so many years that I'm sure she has backstories and impressions of all of them that weren't put into the books. I don't think Dumbledore being gay was integral to the story, which is why she left it out, but when asked point blank she felt the question deserved an honest answer. Good for her. I'm so glad to hear that the children in the audience responded well; that gives me hope for the tolerance of younger generations. It certainly doesn't change my opionion of Dumbledore, why is it that it changes so many of yours?? Secondly, I am disturbed by Alexis' repeated fake dialogues suggesting innappropriate behavior between Dumbledore and Harry. Grow up. If you want to write your own version of the book, keep it to yourself. Homosexuality does not equal pedophilia (CONT)

whoa!!relax offended fan Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 06:56 PM EST

First of all, the fact that Dumbledore made huge mistake in his youth is surprising and unsettling, however Dumbledore wasn't inhuman. He had to have flaws. They humanize him. Aside from that, you have to be impressed by the way he rose above his mistakes and worked hard to prevent children from ever being as ignorant as he once was.
I was excited about Dumbledore being gay. The way I see it, it's healthy for the world to see such an amazing character as gay. It will help people to except it better. Anyway, you can't really be offended by something that isn't even really hinted at in the books. No one would ever read the book at 11 years old and be scarred for life over the huge amount of obvious homosexuality because that just wasn't in the plotline.

to an offended fan Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:27 PM EST

So homosexuals are like the Nazis? Even though they were targeted by Hitler and the Nazi regime. Got it.

To An Offended Fan Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:52 AM EST

Also, Argumentum Ad Hitlerum:

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ArgumentumAdHitlerum

You lose at life.

To An Offended Fan Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:52 AM EST

Also, Argumentum Ad Hitlerum:

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ArgumentumAdHitlerum

You lose at life.

Chillax Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:46 AM EST

Better description of Godwin's Law:

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GodwinsLaw

Includes the stipulation that the person invoking Nazis loses.

To An Offended Fan Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:40 AM EST

You just compared being a homosexual to being a Nazi. Wow.

GODWIN'S LAW - YOU LOSE!!

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law)

to an offended fan Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:01 PM EST

as should you

An Offended Fan Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:34 PM EST

What do you suppose J.K. Rowling, as a mother of three, would think if I, as an author had written a series of books that had captured the hearts and souls of millions of children and their parents worldwide, revealed after the last book that one of the most beloved characters in the book was a Nazi sympathizer during World War II and continued to subscribe to a philosophy of anti-semitism and intolerance. Would she, as a mother, have any entitlement to feel indignant about my disclosure because it was "my character and I can make it any way I want?" This is just what she has done, the only difference is the message. People have a right to be critical of her because she has robbed them of the character she created in their imagination as they read the books for themselves. She has also usurped the role of parents everywhere to pick the time and place to educate their children about human sexuality and alternative lifestyles. She should be ashamed of herself.

Gabrielle Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 07:28 PM EST

I was so happy when I learned that the great and powerfull Dumbledore was gay! I always found that it was strange. Dumbledore always did pi speech on ove to Harry but J.K never spoke about Dumbledore experiences with love. It's just making Harry Potter more and more real. I'm so just fan. Sorry for my english. I'm a QUÉBÉCOISE... :)


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