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Blu-ray vs. HD: Whose side are you on?

Oct 26, 2007, 06:00 PM | by LaRue Cook

Categories: DVD/Video

Johnny_l_2 Actually, the battle over which new high-definition DVD format will earn your gift-buying dollars this holiday season may already be over. Which is why Disney's Magical Blu-ray Tour, the studio's whistlestop campaign to promote the more prevalent of the two rival formats, felt more like a victory lap than a PR offensive.

At least it did to me as I attended the tour's 11th stop on Friday in Long Island. Blu-ray reps weren't fretting over their competition, and the atmosphere was more consumer-friendly than cutthroat publicity campaign. No wonder, since, six of the eight major studios have decided to side with Blu-ray (Paramount and Universal being the sole dissenters) and more than 170 companies adopting the format. Not to mention, more of your favorite titles — like Pirates of the Caribbean 3 (pictured) and Cars — will be available only on Blu-ray, while Michael Bay's Transformers is one of the few dealbreakers HD has in its arsenal.

So, what's the difference? And what does this format skirmish mean to you? After all, both Blu-ray and HD, viewed on one of those $2,000, 1080p flat-screens, offer jaw-dropping visual clarity. Both formats will have theaters scrambling for higher quality, as evidenced by the wide release of Beowulf on IMAX and digital projection screens next month. Both Blu-ray and HD are backwards compatible, so I don't have to chuck the 150 DVDs I already own. And both have a high level of interaction. Get bored watching Cars and you can actually play along with the movie. Want to know about Lightning McQueen and the history of the Ford GT40? Just push a button. If you've already spent all your lunch money for a PS3 or XBox 360, then you know about the interactivity afforded by Blu-ray and HD. Play movies, video games, CDs, and access the Internet all on one console — kind of hard not to use the cliché, "something for the whole family."

As a non-tech-geek consumer, the major difference I see is availability. One of the few legs HD really has to stand on is its cheaper price (about 100 bucks), which to a broke post-grad such as myself is a major selling point. But with only two studios backing the HD format, there aren't that many titles offered. (At least, not in the States, though you can find more HD titles if you're willing to buy your discs from overseas retailers.) Plus, Toshiba and Microsoft are the only companies offering HD players, the idea being that Microsoft will have some type of computer download compatibility, because, as you may have heard, that's the way of the future.

Still, I doubt this will be a major revolution like VHS to DVD or cassette to CD. I'd say it'll be the equivalent of Betamax, Laserdisc, and MiniDisc all falling by the wayside. In the end, though, it's really up to you, the consumer, which format survives. So, what's it going to be? Blu-ray or HD? I'm abstaining 'cause my TV is a 20-inch dud — cleaning my screen with Windex is the closest thing I get to high-def.

*Full disclosure: The PR folks for Disney were kind enough to send a car to the EW offices in Manhattan for the hour-long ride to Garden City. (I'm weak and I've been humping it on the subway for three straight months.) But I promise, despite the free water they gave me, I remained unbiased and did my HD homework before being bombarded with pro-Blu-ray pamphlets.

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dude Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:02 AM EST

sony is a control freak refuse to buy anything sony in fact i wont buy any new technology for at least a year and like the guy that says regular dvds still look pretty good to me and theyre cheaper

l8rgator Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:08 AM EST

We were all gung-ho about blu-ray after we bought our 1080p hdtv in November. But then I did some research, and I was turned off by the reports of goofy technical problems with both Blu-ray and hd-dvd players, and necessary periodic firmware updates. Seemed the technology was just too new. I was hesitant to pay hundreds for something that didn't seem reliable.
Then I went shopping online, and found quality HD-DVD players for nearly half the price of Blu-Ray players. And there were deals for the HD-DVD players for 5-10 free (albiet mostly crappy) movies included with purchase. When I found a 1080p HD-DVD player for under $200 with 10 free movies, I snapped it up. I think many other "walmart" types like me, or high-school/college age kids, may very well do the same just for the savings.

I'm aware I may need to add a blu-ray player in the next few years, just so I can see Blu-Ray only movies and so I can rent from Blockbuster. But by then the prices should finally be affordable

lance white Mon, Dec 3, 2007 at 10:38 PM EST

Once there is a format that is compatible with everything and does not cost $999.99, I will fork over my hard earned money.

Marc Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 06:04 AM EST

You can buy a 1080p 37' Aquos for 1300.00$ so I dont see why people are whining about that.
As for BR & HDDVD being marginaly the same,well just saying it doesnt make it so,calling them the same is like calling dvd and vhs the same.Everyone assumes 1080p is the endall,if it was then yes I wouldnt care really who won HD or BR it wouldnt matter,but 1080p isnt the end HD-DVD is a glorified DVD disc and it has reached the end of it's development cycle.Blu Ray while substantially more future proof still has limitations 300 gbs of data storage may seem like alot at the moment but in 5 years or less it will seem to be a tight fit.
In my opinion both formats will go the way of laserdisc when the new holographic optical discs are released.
As to which format is better HD DVD or BR they are both the samewhen it comes to displaying 1080p,it all comes down to Label support and future proof technology which BR wins hands down.

Emoney Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 02:55 PM EST

The tech guy on NPR says don't buy either for now, which is what I was going to do anyway.

WH Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:11 PM EST

I keep trying to be interested in this, but eyes.. glaze... over... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Hi Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 11:40 AM EST

I have HD-DVD b/c I had a 360 and it made sense to go that route. But I think the future is that no one wins the format war. Eventually there will be affordable players that play both formats. LG already has these players but they are expensive right now.

Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:27 AM EST

Neither...spent way too much on dvds to switch now...especially when they will probably come out with something new in another year or so..

Winona Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:32 AM EST

It means absolutely NOTHING to me. Just bought a new standard DVD player less than a year ago, and since A. I'm not going to replace it soon, and B. I don't have the money for a fancy TV, and C. The DVDs themselves are waaaaay too expensive... I'll just stay in the relative Dark Ages for as long as possible.

Pete Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:43 AM EST

I choose both. I have the new LG combo drive in my HTPC that reads both Blu-ray and HD DVDs. Plus I just Netflix all of my movies anyway.

Mike Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 11:16 PM EST

Marc - Why add on the cost of Xbox live to the 360? You don't need that for HD-DVD, and at any rate with the free (silver) version of live, you can buy or rent HD content (ST:TOS - cheesy good fun in HD). And if you're going to play that game, note that you can now get 6 free HD-DVDs (one comes with it, 5 as a mail in) when you get the HD-DVD add on. And I can always just drive to NH and not pay taxes, so let's take that off, too. In the end, they are pretty comparable on price, but I wouldn't place either one's advertising of final prices more or less honest than the others. And as Ken says, any difference is kind of peanuts compared to the cost of a good HD TV.

Ghosx Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:53 PM EST

I'm on whichever side has the most bypassable DRM. Amen.

Ken Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 08:30 PM EST

It's hilarious to watch HD-DVD propagandists come out every single time a comparative article is published.

Bottom line is Blu-Ray is marginally better on the specs (storage space, copy protection), but in all other ways, BOTH formats are nearly equal.

But the WAY the "battle" is waged is a joke. HD-DVD supporters rip Sony, when HD-DVD has similar corporate supporters, Microsoft/Toshiba. Anyone who lies by demonizing one side or the other, based solely on which corporations support a standard, is a fraud. Negotiations for a common standard broke down because BOTH sides are stubborn and greedy.

On the other hand, if you look at WHY movie studios are selecting exclusivity, well that is MORE instructive. HD-DVD had to PURCHASE both Universal and Paramount to adopt HD-DVD exclusivity. Not one studio has chosen HD-DVD voluntarily.

Finally, anyone who thinks the cheap WalMart shoppers will decide this format, you're crazy. If you can afford a $3K TV, you can afford a BluRay.

dt3 Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 04:38 PM EST

wow... That was amazingly biased and uninformative. I like how you tricked everyone w a title that makes everyone think this is going to be an honest discussion... Than boom... completely one sided sony propaganda. Got one question for you... All those failed formats you mentioned (beta, minidisc) wjp was in charge of those?? Oh yeah... Sony

secondly, if ypur only television is a 20 incher you have no business writing an article on this subject. No offense but it is like me writing a pamphlet on breast feeding.

Ross Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:45 PM EST

"Both formats will have theaters scrambling for higher quality, as evidenced by the wide release of Beowulf on IMAX and digital projection screens next month."

Higher quality?

Theatre film projection is still a much higher resolution than either of these home digital formats.

Do some research.

Marc Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:12 AM EST

HD-DVD is the same thing Wade only difference is Sony doesnt try to mislead the public on their final price point,xbox 360 299.00 HD DVD addon 179.99 xbox live 60.00 grand total 538.00$ w/o taxes.
PS3 499.00 free online service 0.00 2 free games 120.00 5 free blu ray discs 150.00 for a final total of 229.00$

Wade W. Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:36 AM EST

Sorry guys, I just have to ask. Off all the people posting here, how many of you actually own Blu-ray players, and not a PS3? And on that note, If the PS3 didn't have blu-ray built in, and could get a PS3 for say $299 would you still be backing the Blu-ray, with it's lowest player costing $499? I mean Are you really choosing your format or letting it be chosen for you?

Nahsik Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:09 AM EST

I have both (PS3 & HD DVD player for my xbox360) and I'm rooting for HD DVD 'cause it can be played on either your HD DVD drive or your regular DVD player. Blu Ray can't do do that.

oktober Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 05:55 PM EST

Blockbuster Video is going to be Bluray only i think that is a big deal no one has mentioned also Fox is a big supporter of BD which is a distribution power house just like sony.

Marc Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:36 PM EST

Personal computers are on their way out,in the next few years you will see fewer and fewer PC released games,piracy takes a big bite out of the developers margin,as for DVD it's the same situation.
Im not going to go into the anti piracy techniques in the works for BR and HD-DVD but suffice it to say it's extreme.
In the end though it doesn't matter who wins "cough" Blu Ray,we as consumers will eventually reap the benefit's of a medium that has the full backing of the collective movie industry and electronics manufacturers.

Kevin Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:36 PM EST

Who cares? I'll stick to my regular old DVDs. They are a lot cheaper and they are still pretty darn good in terms of film quality.

Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:28 PM EST

People seem to forget that Paramount chose HD-DVD over blu-ray because M$ paid them $150 million for a 18 month exclusive contract. Had nothing to do with HD-DVD being the better of the two.

Ibrahimovic Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:13 PM EST

80gb PS3 with a blu-ray player only $499

Judge Mental Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:00 PM EST

Nobody can say for sure who will win this war, but comon fellas, you have to admit the Bluray format has several big advantages.

1. PS3 is the sole reason why there ARE more bluray players out there(by a large magin 5:1).

2. Bluray is a more widely supported format by movies studios (Sony also has their hand in the pot).

3. Blurays are superior in terms of capacity, durability, longevity.

These are all facts that can all be verified.

In my opinion, the PC is what will seperate the winners from the losers in the war. Double layer DVDs don't cut it for me. a 200 gig Bluray, would be a nice medium for backing up your harddrive.

phil Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:09 PM EST

Neither one will win. I am sure something else will come out within the next couple of years, so for now I will stick with DVD.

AG Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:01 PM EST

Blu-Ray all the way!

Dan TO Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 12:23 PM EST

I plan to pass on both, I just don't care. I'm holding out for the day when I can just download anything. 99% of the movies made in the last decade are total crap. The most innovative story telling is happening on TV and my HD DVR is perfect for that.

Rod Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 10:02 AM EST

I've got an HD-DVD player, so I'm rooting for HD-DVD. I believe that Toshiba's dedicated player pricing strategy will eventually overcome Sony's Blu-Ray=PS3 advantage.

Marc Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:38 AM EST

I totaly forgot about the new format that may make both of them obsolete before they actualy begin,the new holographic disk's with the ability to store upto 3 TB of data 1 TB = 1000 GB also they have a data transfer rate of 1Gbps,in perspective Blu Ray's transfer speed is 54Mbps and HD-DVD is around 36Mbps.
So hear's to 3D holographic disk's that if come to fruition will make BR and HD-DVD the laserdisc of this generation .

Steve S Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:37 AM EST

Oh, Blu-Ray all the way. They both can offer the same image and sound, but Blu-Ray came with my PS3, which is a deal-breaker to me. I'm not about to go out and buy another player just for Transformers. I'll stick it out with other movies and DVD's for the ones not released on Blu-Ray. Not to mention that for being future proof, Blu-Ray stores considerably more data than HD-DVD, so it allows for longer movies without putting them on 2 discs and more features. The battle was decided for me personally once I saw the specs on both. Really, they both can (and do) use the same compression algorithms, so the quality on both is the same. But with more storage space, and with it built into my PS3, there was no question about which format I'd choose.

Marc Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:21 AM EST

Blu-Ray will win hands down,the theoretical limit on a BR disc is 300GB where as HD-DVD technology is based entirely on the old DVD format all they have done is narrowed the grooves and pits.
If you want quadruple layer Blu Ray discs capable of holding an entire season on a single disc in 1080p glory the choice is obvious.

KG Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 12:40 AM EST

none. I'm still with the masses who love and watch DVDs. Can't deny that it's cos I'm a broke post-grad but even if I had the money to splurge on any, the dvd war would piss me off more.

sh0ckWav3 Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 12:31 AM EST

hd all the way it's cheaper and same quality as blu..

Ian Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:44 PM EST

HD

Kunal Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:43 PM EST

Well, as a supporter of both formats I don't see the Blu-Ray advantage that some people are seeing. Besides big exclusives like Transformers and Bourne Ultimatum coming out this year, next year's summer blockbusters - Universal's The Incredible Hulk and Paramount's Iron Man are both HD-DVD exclusive. And the other two major flicks, Warner Bros. The Dark Knight will be out on both formats and Indiana Jones? Well, I've heard Spielberg is a Blu-Ray supporter but it doesn't seem like his catalog is going to be released just yet so we'll just have to wait for a confirmation on that release. Anyway, the point is - it looks like both formats are here to stay so don't get your hopes up if you're waiting for this "war" to end.

Brian Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:29 PM EST

I choose Blu-Ray. Come on! Even Michael Bay who has the best selling Transformers on HD DVD knows who will win..ITS BLU-RAY! But I wish BD has Transformers...

Nick Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:24 PM EST

Stepsi, I don't know if you have noticed, but PS3 sales are extremely under what they were supposed to be, and thus are nott that large of a factor in the decision. Also I would say HD DVD is not confusing at all, but actually quite obvious, HD is a term very familiar to most people's vocabulary, at least more familiar than blue-ray.

Todd Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:14 PM EST

If the VHS-Beta war taught us anything, it's that the format that allows adult videos will be the one that wins. Which gives HD-DVD the edge.

Techie 12 Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:51 PM EST

Blu-Ray all the way. Nothing against HD but blu-ray is the format that would last longer. I believe it's limits will be pushed further then the HD DVD

CDB Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:31 PM EST

Also, the thing about Transformers being the only big thing HD DVD has to offer is wrong. What about the Bourne Ultimatum? It's coming out soon and is only available in HD DVD, along with most big television box sets such as Heroes.

Paramount also just dropped BR to go to HD DVD. That's saying something.

Seriously, do your research better. Is this the kind of "research" you are allowed to turn in? I worked at Circuit City for one summer and I know more.

Anonymous Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:28 PM EST

HD DVD right now actually has an edge over BluRay, considering the below $200 player.

Also, out of HD player sales, Toshiba is actually dominating the market as compared to the multiple players being put out by various BluRay supporters.

Plus, hasn't history taught us enough? Anything Sony backs is going down the drain. coughbetamaxcough

Strepsi Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:51 PM EST

Blu-Ray has won -- Because it comes in PS3, but mainly because it has a distinctive name. you KNOW what you're talking about with Blu-Ray (and it sounds cool too) whereas HD-DVD sounds, I don't know, generic and unsure...

anon Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:49 PM EST

you seems pretty confused. It's HD DVD, not HD. Blu-ray is technically HD as well. So it's Blu-ray vs. HD DVD.

nobody Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:21 PM EST

Obviously LaRue hasn't the breaking news that Wal-Mart has just dropped the bomb on the Blu-ray mob/oligopoly:

It's official. CNN Money and Fortune Magazine confirm on October 25th that Wal-Mart has begun selling Toshiba's second-generation HD-A2 HD DVD player for $198.

Wal-Mart spokesperson Melissa O'Brien confirmed the rollback: "We reduced our HD DVD Toshiba player, the generation-two, to $198 earlier in the week." O'Brien also denied rumors that each Wal-Mart store would stock only 18 units of the Toshiba player, saying: "There are no limited quantities for stores or purchases."

Hi-Def Digest reports that the $198 price for Toshiba HD-A2 is currently being offered for in-store purchases only. Wal-Mart's website still lists the player at $274.

http://bigtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/10/25/hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-wal-mart-offers-toshiba-player-for-under-200/

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Toshiba/Wal-Mart/Wal-Mart_Stocks_Sub-$200_HD_DVD_Player/1110

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It's been long predicted by analysts and observers that whichever hi-def disc player that hits the consumers' "sweet spot" of $199 and makes its way into Wal-Mart will win the HD format war.

Torrence Davis Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:00 PM EST

There are more than 2 supporters for HD-DVD. Do your research before you post. Paramount, Dreamworks and Universal are the only EXCLUSIVE supporters to HD-DVD. They still have Warner and all the others except for Sony/MGM and Disney I think.

actingup Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 06:51 PM EST

I am just furious about this. Ever since I heard about this STUPID FORMAT WAR I stopped buying any DVDs. I refuse to buy a Blu-Ray machine. I already own 2 dvd players AND a dvd recorder. Now I have to buy ANOTHER frickin' machine in order to see certain movies? No way. I think we the public are the losers in this scenario. And soon the studios because I can't see the majority of the country running out to buy new machines.

Not to mention the fact that in a few years we are all going to have to thrown out all our TVs and buy new ones because they will have to be able to receive the high def signals.

It sure sounds like a clever idea to get us all to spend more money. Just like cell phones and computers seem to just crap out after a few years.

Daniel Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 06:29 PM EST

Neither. I'm sticking with DVDs.

BrandonK Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 05:56 PM EST

We bought an HD DVD player a few months ago. For the sake of the money we spent on it, I'd really prefer that HD overcome Blu-ray. Sigh.

Jackie Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 05:39 PM EST

Right now, neither. Both sides are constantly making claims they are the "winner" and when you look at the actual numbers, standard DVD is still like 90-something percent of the market because most people don't feel it's worth the extra cost and don't want to get stuck with DVDs or players that will be obsolete once this format war redux is over. Let's not forget that there are only hundreds of title available in high def. as opposed to tens of thousands in standard def.

Personally, I see potential in a third format, HD-VMD. It was developed in Europe and while the players are a bit pricey (just under $200 for one on Amazon, which is still better than pretty much any Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player)), what few titles they do have don't cost much more than regular DVDs. Of course, the title selection is pretty pitiful unless you are a Bollywood fan, and it looks like Blu-Ray and HD-DVD have their hooks in the Hollywood studios. A girl can dream...

Britt Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 05:13 PM EST

I actually just got a PS3 so it is blu-ray for me! Yay! :)

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