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It's Rosie O'Donnell vs. Kelly Ripa in...'Claygate'!

Nov 21, 2006, 06:09 PM | by Michael Slezak

Categories: 'American Idol', Morning Madness, Television, The View

143613__clay_l Kelly Ripa knows daytime drama, and not just from her former stint on All My Children. Over the last couple days, she's had a public spat with former American Idol star Clay Aiken, and had to defend herself against loudmouth accusations of homophobia by Rosie O'Donnell. Now, before I tell you why I think O'Donnell owes Ripa an equally loud apology, let me get everybody up to date with YouTube footage of all four steps of the commotion. (Thanks, TV Tattle, for the links!) Brace yourselves; there's a lot to digest.

1) On Friday's Live With Regis and Kelly, Aiken served as substitute cohost, and apparently didn't hit it off with Ripa. Things culminated midway through their interview with Dancing With the Stars champs Emmitt Smith and Cheryl Burke, when Aiken clamped his hand over Ripa's chatty mouth (pictured, right) so he could ask a not-particularly-pertinent question. A clearly displeased Ripa told him his paw-to-lips interception was a no-no, then tried to diffuse the tension (sort of) by joking about his hand, "I don't know where that's been, honey!"

2) On Monday's Live, a still-peeved Ripa explained to Philbin that she was put off by Aiken's "lack of respect." In other words, "you don't put your hands over somebody's face and mouth when they're conducting an interview -- even if it's for a laugh." Fair enough, right?

3) Not according to O'Donnell. This morning on The View, she replayed Ripa's "I don't know where that's been, honey!" remark, and responded thusly: "Listen, to me, that's a homophobic remark. If that was a straight man, if that was a cute man, if that was a guy that she didn't question his sexuality, she would've said a different thing. I was offended by that." Guest host Sherri Shepherd, who holds her own against O'Donnell's steamroller technique with wit and class (and deserves a permanent spot in the seat), argued the rather logical point that no one likes a stranger's hand over one's mouth. (Unless, I dunno, maybe you're in a German brothel?)

4) Ripa, clearly not having any of it, called in to The View to defend herself on air. "What you said is downright outrageous," she told O'Donnell, arguing that Aiken never would have put his hand over a male cohost's mouth, but somehow thought it was okay to do it to a woman. "You have to be more responsible," she chided O'Donnell, regarding her accusations of homophobia. Rosie, for her part, refused to back down. "From where I sit as a gay person in the world, that's how it came off to me," she said, then proceeded to defend Aiken as a "kid" who "shot to superstardom," neglecting to mention the fact that he's 28 years old, and has had well over three years in the limelight since being named runner-up on Idol's second season. "I've been on this show for three months I haven't said one thing is homophobic." Well, now you did, Ro, and you were 10 plates of wrong.

As I see it, Aiken has never publicly said he's gay -- and if that's the stance he's going with, I don't see exactly where O'Donnell gets to accuse Ripa of making a homophobic remark about him in the first place. Yet even putting aside the singer's sexual orientation, how can O'Donnell feel comfortable saying, for example, that Ripa would've allowed Mario Lopez to physically stifle her comments, but not Aiken? I mean, I could speculate that Ripa would probably object to any man pulling such a stunt on air, but that would just be speculation -- same as O'Donnell. Therefore, not knowing the intent of Ripa's comments -- Hands are germy? Hands that don't let me dominate the conversation are germy? Gay hands are germy? -- O'Donnell should've pulled an Aiken and stifled none other than herself. After all, words have power. And as an activist lesbian with a daily audience of millions of viewers, O'Donnell has a responsibility to choose her words with care. Instead, today, she came off as the girl who cried "homophobia!," and next time around, this gay male viewer, for one, is far more likely to ignore her.

What's your opinion of Claygate? And do you think any of the participants should or will offer an apology?

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Stephanie Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:35 PM EST

I don't care what man,who they are or sexual preference put his hand over my mouth or touched my face in anyway, I'd recoil and I have in the past. Come-on and get real...how many men wash their hands after visiting the "little boys" room? Besides that being a RUDE jesture no matter man or woman, I certainly don't want any man touching my bare skin (especially my face!) I really like Rosie O. but would she want some dude putting his hands on her face...let alone her mouth while doing a talk show? Aside from being rude (even a woman doing that) it's disgusting and unsanitary!!!

Lisa Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 12:47 PM EST

Clay was clearly trying to joke around, he may have gone too far, but he did not do anything just to be mean, which is what Ripa implied. She is so full of herself. I can't believe people are saying it is okay that she has put her hand over Regis's mouth-germs are germs-doesn't matter how long you have known someone. Sounds like a double standard to me.

Macy Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:33 PM EST

Shere Ann, you are double-talking. You either accept something or you don't. You either like it, or you don't. I hate okra, and no matter how anyone cooks it, I still hate it.

Shere-ann Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:31 PM EST

I think people should have the right to be what they want to be,despite what others may think.Its natural for a couple of the same sex or opposite, to have feelings for each other.Eventhough we may think it is wrong,they think its right.I will not condem them but i will pray for them.If this does not work im fine with it has long has they keep it in their own space and don't bring it to me to accept.

Candy Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:46 PM EST

I think this is completely ridiculous. We're all human and we all make mistakes! So they didn't know how to react to one another, what's the big deal? It happens everyday. Being a bi-sexual female I was not offended by what Kelly said. I saw the show and I think Clay was being rude by what he did and even though Kelly didn't handle it as professionally as I would have liked I don't think it was her being homophobic, I think she was just not comfortable with it. As for the remark of her putting her hand over Regis' mouth a couple times, She works with the man almost daily, she KNOWS him well so I can see how they would be comfortable with in that way...plus have you heard the man talk?!? I love him to death, but when he gets rolling on a subject, it's hard to get a word in edge wise haha. He is a very loud man. I love the show and I think Rosie overracted...She needs to stop making her spot on the View primetime to nit pick at everything seemingly anti-gay on TV.

Juju Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:40 PM EST

Tom you sure know how to make a statement. I even thought some of your comments were funny, but, do you know that Kelly The Ripa has done the very same thing on several occasions to other guests? And please calm down. Rosie is not worth getting a stroke.

Tom Broderick Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 01:03 PM EST

If anyone put their hands on me, especially my mouth they would be laying on the floor sniffing smelling salt cause I would have decked them. You dont do that without someones permission. Her comments were not homophobic and I am glad her and Trump have stood up for themselves and refused to be bullied by Rosie. She is a disgusting fat slob akin to a sloth. No decent man would touch her which is probably why she is gay, any woman who would sleep with her must have a mental problem and what is with all these people shoving their gay lifestyle down Americas throat. If you want to be gay that is your business but I dare you require that everyone be "okay" with it. It is not normal sexual behaviour and it is not considered right by most people. The current trend toward being politically correct on every subject is stupid. I can't believe that Rosie has adopted children, I feel sorry for them having to live in that kind of life, Gays should not be allowed to be parents,

Kathy Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:09 AM EST

I like Kelly, but feel she overreacted to Clay putting his hand over her mouth. I don't believe that he meant to insult her. I think he was probably nervous, temporarily sitting in the seat of Regis, and I agree with Rosie when she pointed out how new he was to showbiz. And I really don't think it had much to do with germs, it was probably more about perfectionism. And hasn't anyone ever told her to stop picking and fussing with her clothes throughout the entire show? That is much more disturbing than the hand incident. Rosie, on the other hand, definitely crossed the line when she said Kelly was homophobic.She had no business bringing Clay's being gay into the open, specially if he himself does not speak publicly about it.I would think that Rosie would have more understanding about that, when once, not so long ago she didn't speak publicly about it either.She definitely did more harm than good to Clay.Rosey has always made me laugh, but this time she missed the mark,and was not funny.

Kathi Puglise Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:20 PM EST

Rosie is a arrogant bullie. Who elected her the GAY Police... Maybe she has a crystal ball & can read the future. No one asked her opnion and no one cares. " Rosie shut up"

Mimi Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 03:10 PM EST

This moment will go down in Television history. Hope to see it replayed on a news show.

Juju Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 11:17 AM EST

Randy made some good points. There is always a measure of what a person really believes in comedy. People have been taught to be racist through stratification. As much as anyone would want to deny this to be true-it is not going away. It all starts with prejudice,then prejudice when put into action becomes a racist act. Rosie is a turn-off, and Donald Trump is no one to judge. She is right about the crown wearing beauty. Of course her tears are believable, she was trained to turn them on when needed.

King Creole Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 10:09 AM EST

Yes, but even if you show a little respect, you can get branded a "racist" by the PC mob. Not for having made any racist comments, but simply because you have the audacity to voice a contrary opinion!

Check out the comments section at:

http://kimchimamas.typepad.com/kimchi_mamas/2006/12/comment_at_your.html#comments

It's just crazy.

Randy Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 03:57 AM EST

She could of imitated the gay British accent to mock Danny Devito. I understand that it's hard to make jokes without making fun of someone. But come on, if you're gona make fun of people, make fun of everyone including yourself. Be like Monty Python and just point out how stupid the entire human race is. Don't show favor-ism toward one group and disdain others.

At certain point, there's a line that you just don't cross, where about that line is up for debate.

She apologized already, but she said she would do it again, now that tells me it was not just a slip of the tongue nor misused of a syllable. It was intentional.

For people who keep saying don't be PC denialists, is that all you can think of. It's more than just about being PC, I'm sure most people including Asians like to be truthful, and I'm sure most people including Asians have a sense of humour, but it's much more than that. There's also RESPECT or lack-of, most people including Asians also want to be treated with respect. If you don't show respect to people you don't know who don't look or act like you, you're just exhibiting your bully obnoxiousness in the guise of humour.

Rich Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:22 PM EST

Deb--Even if Clay were gay, I think Rosie was being overly sensitive and I think she should be more sensitive to Clay Aiken as to whether he wants to be out. I think Rosie has had to deal with her own concerns about coming out and while she had her reasons for coming out and is now happy being an openly gay celebrity, that does not mean that a celebrity's sexuality is of the general public's concern UNLESS that celebrity chooses to reveal it to the public.
So, even if Clay were openly gay, Kelly's remarks were not homophobic but I can see why Rosie might have been sensitive to Clay's situation because of all the negative media attention paid to his supposed use of gay intenet dating sites. She was defending him in her own way. Therefore Kelly's comment was not intended to be homophobic but was so to Rosie. Rosie's accent was not intended to mock or make fun of Asians but it was perceived racist to Asians. This incident with the use of words "Ching, Chong" was enlightening and the attention paid to this can do some good for the Asian-American community as far as how spontaneous conversation is presented on live t.v. But let's not forget Kelly's human and so is Rosie.

Matt Elmore Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 08:17 AM EST

This article and another:
http://intimationsofubiquity.blogspot.com/2006/12/society-poriticarry-collect.html

... have been posted on the whiteplusyellow.com forum as examples of the insensitive reaction by non-Asians to Rosie's comments.

The whole episode is yet another example of the mass hysteria which has been spawned by the mental virus known as PC Thinking. And, yes, Rosie is a guilty hypocrite for screaming "homophobe" on the one hand and not applying the same strict standards to herself for race jokes. But why make such a big deal out of it anyway? In the long run, really, so what?

Why can't people just make jokes without worrying every syllable of the way? Humour is spontaneity, and this PC gangsterism is really killing the buzz.

Deb Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 01:39 AM EST

(quote Rich) "I think this instance with Clay is the one time where she was way off base. First off, Clay never has publicly said he was gay though I think Rosie was thinking of the reports that he went on gay dating sites when she indicated concern about him. Second, Rosie's comments did blow it way out of proportion after Kelly's on air remark had already blown it slightly out of proportion. Kelly was kind of diva-like while Rosie was overly sensitive. Certainly Kelly, while overly "touchy" on being touched had reason for being upset but should NOT have voiced it then and there. That was more suited for off-air. As far as Rosie doing the really bad asian accent on the View, that's all it was a bad accent and a not really funny joke. She was not racist." (end Quote)

So you're saying IF Clay was indeed Gay, then O'Donnell would had been correct in her sensitivity of gay rights for her condemning Kelly Ripa?

I agree that her imitation of chinese accent was not racist, but if O'Donnell uses the term "homophobic" to describe anybody who mocks at gay gestures, then it's only fair to label O'Donnell as a "Chinesephobic" for mocking Chinese accent. Unless you think Gay rights are more of a worthy-cause than Chinese rights.

ROSIE made fun of LANGUAGE! LANGUAGE IS CULTURE! She offended CHINESE CULTURE!

Rich Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:30 PM EST

I think this instance with Clay is the one time where she was way off base. First off, Clay never has publicly said he was gay though I think Rosie was thinking of the reports that he went on gay dating sites when she indicated concern about him. Second, Rosie's comments did blow it way out of proportion after Kelly's on air remark had already blown it slightly out of proportion. Kelly was kind of diva-like while Rosie was overly sensitive. Certainly Kelly, while overly "touchy" on being touched had reason for being upset but should NOT have voiced it then and there. That was more suited for off-air. As far as Rosie doing the really bad asian accent on the View, that's all it was a bad accent and a not really funny joke. She was not racist. And her comments on Trump were definitely accurate and fact-based and she was well within her rights to speak about Tara the drunk beauty queen. I believe Trump was ridiculous in giving her a second chance and just wanted some positive publicity. Now because Rosie's turning it negative he has to make himself look better so turns on Rosie.

Heidi Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:31 PM EST

Okay, it is clear that Rosie just can't keep her big mouth shut....but this time I think she is right in what she says about Tara the drunk. Take her crown away and give it to another model citizen of the pagent. Yes Rosie, this time you are right!!!

Juju Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 09:20 PM EST

Deb: Rosie is just a loudmouth nut. I don't understand her appeal. And you are right, that is a form of prejudice. The only thing she will harp on is her gay rights, but it is okay in her book to ridicule others. If she would spend half of the energy she does shooting her mouth off doing a few runs around the track that may just take some of the wind out of her. I definitely do not like her.

Deb Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 05:09 AM EST

Rosie is a hypocrite,
If I make a joke about gays' gestures, Rosie would be completely mad at me and call me "homophobic", so then why do you make fun of Chinese accent Rosie? Calling it "ching chong this, ching chong that".

So Rosie, you call people who make gay jokes as "homophobic", then we will call you "Chinesephobic" for making Chinese jokes.

Homophobic = Prejudiced against homosexual people

Therefore, the same definition also applies to the new word "Chinesephobic".

Chinesephobic = Prejudiced against Chinese people

Juju Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:11 AM EST

Wow! Chris, excellent post and well said.

Chris S. Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 09:31 AM EST

First I would like to say that I will no longer watch Live with Regis and Kelly. I couldn't believe it when they hired her. She's exactly like Kathie Lee and look how much crap she stirred up on the show. Both these ladies are not happy if they are not the center of attention every second. I think Kelly was way out of line with Clay. He's a human being with feelings and stuck up people like her keeep knocking him down his whole life. Give the guy a break. He's actually very sweet and let's just enjoy his talents. Oh and this was particularily claring given that we've all seen her put her hand over Regis's mouth before. Lady stop the B.S. Your a snot plain and simple. Beware how that pride goes before a fall.It's really true girlfriend and I suggest you humble yourself before God sees to it that you are humbled in a way that is painful and humiliating. Didn't your parents teach you anything about tolerance? No way would you have acted like that if it had been some hunky straight guy and we all know it.

Vivian Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:25 AM EST

Elmers Glue works wonders!

Juju Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 01:14 PM EST

Jason your point is well taken, but Kelly The Ripa is still annoying. So what if she is attractive? She still needs to lose some of her mouthy ways and bad attitude towards guest hosts. I just wish he had brought tape to finish the job.

murel hall Sat, Dec 9, 2006 at 09:28 AM EST


I have to say rosie is the reason I don't tune in to the view. She has always slanted her comments toward her way of life, and has tried to shove everyone in to believing it's ok. Well, she has her right to believe any way she likes, but her rights end where mind begin. This is a point that she has never been able to understand. So quite trying to bully everyone. I would like to go to the view and place my hand on her loud mouth.

Jason Sat, Dec 9, 2006 at 12:32 AM EST

I love how the predominately women on here like to bypass the issue of Rosie's completely out of line response to Kelly Ripa on an issue that wasn't homophobia or even a issue about sexuality.

It seems women find attractive, famous women especially annoying and receive some sort of pleasure in seeing this women "falling" publicly. Or even if you think she is annoying does that give Clay Aiken to right to smother her face in a malicious way?

Just put a little thought into without any sort of emotionally vested bias.

Juju Fri, Dec 8, 2006 at 01:50 AM EST

Heidi:
Do you wear gloves until you reach your place of dwelling? If you want to discuss serious issues go to the New York Times. I think Clay simply did what so many have wanted to do but did not have the courage. Yes, it was rude, but what about her rudeness and ridicule? She is no saint! She has had more hands on her during the soap opera years than all the applause Clay has received.

Heidi R. Thu, Dec 7, 2006 at 03:46 PM EST

Okay guys and gals,

There are more trivial things in life - like people dying of aids, hunger, etc. Unfortunately, being in the spotlight everything gets blown out of proportion. If anyone tried to be rude by putting their hand over a mouth my concern would be too: where the hell was that hand? I mean, he touched door knobs getting to the show. That hand has touched many surfaces...i.e. germs! People Who cares if he is gay or not...the point is, it was rude and disgusting and Rosie get over it.

Justin T. Thu, Dec 7, 2006 at 09:15 AM EST

Yahoo! Do the do Clay! You know that is what Kelly Diva needed. I have been wanting to do that myself. She has said some mean things about me too. Hey Clay, want to go to lunch? I'm buying.

Juju Mon, Dec 4, 2006 at 10:55 AM EST

That is so right Angie. Clay did what so many wish they could do, put their hands over her trap. The picture of this display is priceless.

Angie Mon, Dec 4, 2006 at 10:40 AM EST

Kelly was much more disrespectful to Clay than he was to her. Clay's actions were more like a brother teasing an annoying sister. She was being annoying.
Kelly, on the other hand, feminized Clay on Halloween,
insinuated that he had a drinking problem, and insulted him with homosexual inuendos. Let's see, who was being disrespectful? She owes Clay an apology.

Juju Mon, Dec 4, 2006 at 09:12 AM EST

Mareen:
Please stop crying over Miss "It." She is annoying to the ninth degree. It is just too bad Clay did not have melted butter on his hand to smear her mouth. Maybe some rubber cement would have been even better.

Maureen Sun, Dec 3, 2006 at 01:05 AM EST

I totally agree with Kelly Ripa. She neither did nor said anything wrong. What Kelly did to Aiken was not a homphobic reaction - she objected to him disrespecting her by putting his hand over her mouth.
Period. End of story. Shame on Rosie O'Donnell for taking this incident and trying to turn it into a "gay issue". Rosie should spend less time misjudging others and more time working on her own lack of sensitivity.

derw Sat, Dec 2, 2006 at 04:43 PM EST

One last comment, because Clay said he apologized and she apologized it is pretty much over. But regardless of what happened once the pictures of her with her hand all over Regis's mouth on more than one occasion pretty much negates any protest she should have had.

She had a problem with him minute one through the whole show and this was just the point where she thought she could publicly humiliate him. Shame on her... he was wrong but she was much worse for going public and making it embarassing for everyone. And if Howard Stern is her advisor on etiquette, well enough said.

PS Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 04:55 PM EST

Maybe the next guest host will bring tape to tape her big mouth shut!

Juju Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 04:53 PM EST

Linda you are quick on the post. Even though I really do not like Rosie, why call her a pig? And if you truly slept with her girlfriend, you have shown yourself to be classless for bringing it up on this board.

Linda Warren Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 03:14 PM EST

Rosie,

You are a big fat PIG. Kelly was so right in what she did. You are rude and the only reason you have a girlfriend is because you have money. I slepwith your so called girlfriend some years ago and I know what she is like. KELLY is so right in her actions. You just like to start problems. I have met you also and thought you a pig then. I am gay as hell and I don't want anyone putting their hand on my face or mouth like Clay did Kelly. Get off the Veiw you suck. Talk to me like that put me on your show and let's seee how that works. I bet people would like me alot better than you. KELLY RULES

Linda Warren Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 03:13 PM EST

Rosie,

You are a big fat PIG. Kelly was so right in what she did. You are rude and the only reason you have a girlfriend is because you have money. I slepwith your so called girlfriend some years ago and I know what she is like. KELLY is so right in her actions. You just like to start problems. I have met you also and thought you a pig then. I am gay as hell and I don't want anyone putting their hand on my face or mouth like Clay did Kelly. Get off the Veiw you suck. Talk to me like that put me on your show and let's seee how that works. I bet people would like me alot better than you. KELLY RULES

lorna cascio Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 03:06 PM EST

Who put Rosie in charge? Please do us all a favor and remove this foul insulting arrogant disgusting mouth off the publics TV time. she is not an interesting person to lisen too, nor is she nice to look at. Her comments on any subject are always bias remote and pointless and have no real merit to the cause in questioned. She's resentful of anyone who is producing themselves successfully.
Please retire this meaningless soul

Tullah Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:40 AM EST

Thanks Clay for doing what so many others have been wanting to do for so long. The stage fake deserved it. What is one more hand on her anorexic body?

Wanita Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 08:28 PM EST

I never watched the show cuz I stopped watching ever since lil' fake Miss Rippa started. OMG , doesn't everyone else see what I do ???? What is up with her. It's like she is constantly watching herself in a mirror , everything about her is fake ! From the way she sits to her facial expressions. Anyhow , so what Clay covered his hand with her mouth , big deal !Yeah , it wasn't the most professional move , but Kelly deserved it for being such an annoying co-host to Regis. She deserved much worse !!!

tlh Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 12:44 PM EST

I believe that Rosie should mind her own business and not make unappropriate comments on a situation that does not include her. My belief is that Clay Aiken should openly make an appology to Kelli on behalf of this situation. Clay has not officially come out to verify his sexual orientation. So Rosie playing the BI/GAY card just makes matters worse for both Kelli and Clay. I side with Kelli's immediate reaction to the evasion of her privacy. Clay should practice to others what he wants for himself. That being self respect. You won't get self respect unless you give it to others. That can also be a lesson for Rosie. Nothing happens without reason.

Shania Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:22 AM EST

Clay dear, forget Kelly Clown, and Rosie Posie. Go find a new record company with good song writers, because your last album, which I bought, is unlistenable. Don't get me wrong, I love your voice, it is smooth and refreshing. Unfortunately, only a few songs really match your voice. "I want to know what love is" was suicide. Have you heard Foreigner's new lead singer sing that song? His name is Kelly Hansen. He is a powerhouse vocalist that will leave you on a cloud for days. I know, I was at one of their concerts, he is a dynamo! Please do not make anymore stinky albums.

Juju Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:26 AM EST

I would like to know if Rosie has ever taken a picture when she is smiling. She always looks angry. She lives for controversy.

Jose M. Ontiveros Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 03:43 PM EST

Yes, I agree Rosie is out of line and slightly off base; however with that said Kelly Ripa is just an obnoxious pain. If she was unhappy with Clay Aiken’s action, she should have spoke to him directly as a professional and not announce it for all television viewers to hear. We all learn from mistakes such as these and I feel this could have been handled differently and with a little finesse. I mean gosh how often does she interrupt or cover Regis’s mouth. Nevertheless, I do agree that if it was someone she felt were more attractive she would have been less likely to complain

Dana Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 12:06 PM EST

Can we stop calling CLAY AIKEN a kid. The guy is freaking 28 years old. He makes tons of money, and should get some etiquette classes with home.

in this situation, Clay Wrong, Kelly Wrong, and Rosie - Obnoxiously Wrong.

Martin Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 12:06 PM EST

I can't go over the nearly 400 posts to this...post, but has anybody come out to rip Rosie a new one for OUTING Clay?

sjdrj Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 09:42 AM EST

I forgot to mention... this strained relationship between Clay and Kelly started shortly after Idol. He called her out on air about lying who she voted for. He apparently watched the show saying she voted for Rueben then when Clay was on the show said she never voted... Clay got a little confrontational with her way back then... I wonder if Kelly remembered this?

sjdrj Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 09:34 AM EST

both were in the wrong,
yes, Clay was a guest, and what he did was clearly inappropriate... on the other hand Clay was a guest, and Kelly should have been a gracious host and allow her guest to ask a question or two. i've seen her with other guest co-hosts and they sit there looking pretty as she asks question after question. not very kind to a guest, if you ask me.

I adored them both before this incident. I have a different view on Kelly after Monday's show. For her to seem to egg Regis on to ask her about Friday, say, "I've been taught, if I can't say something nice, then I won't say it all", then slam Clay the way she did was inappropriate as well. She could have easily said, "I was disappointed about the way the show went." or even, "It was a bad day, and I'm sorry it went the way it did." I don't think she took the high road on this one.

side bar: i've seen kelly put her hand on regis's mouth before. i'm just saying.

As for the Rosie thing... whatever. She had no reason to get into this situation.

clay... hasn't retorted and to me is the bigger person here. he clearly felt bad after kelly told him what he did was a no-no. I've seen clay on many a shows and this was definitely a change for him. he was charming and adorable on tyra several days later. i've always fallen out of my chair laughing when he is on jay leno... this was strange.

Danika Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:24 AM EST

Wow! This is amazing. An enormous amount of posts because of this incident. I am starting to believe that the whole thing was staged-or just a stupid blowout over a silly clown named Ripa. Sure, Clay should not have put his hand over her mouth, but sooner or later someone was going to do just that. She is so annoying with a capital A. She gives new meaning to the word "Diva." She has had more hands on television in places we don't know about than Clay ever has. Rip is a whiny brat!

derw Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:29 AM EST

I have never missed a show Clay has been on and he is always respectful and polite. There was a lot more going on that day than we will ever know about! The whole show was strange and confrontational on both sides. As I was watching it I thought it was just part of the show and a pre-planned act.

The hand incident has been blown way about of proportion in my opinion. Yeah maybe he should not have done it, but like myself and manner other viewers it was a joke! Had Mario done that to her she would have probably licked his hand, really!!!!!

I don't Clay should be beaten up this way, yeah he made a mistake, but I think it has been blown up because of who he is, not because of what he did. Kelly had a problem the whole show and this was her chance to get revenge! He apologized and looked very distressed that she was upset.

He has always been respectful and graciousto his hosts
so as I said there was much more going on than meets the eye. But I think Kelly took it way beyond what should have happened and Rosie made it worse. Although I don't think that was her intention.

Meanwhile these two women made a big story out of nothing but a joke gone bad. Again Kelly, I bet Mario could touch you and you wouldn't complain at all!!!!!

PK Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:04 AM EST

I made some comments here about this whole ridiculous mess, but I want to say one more thing! I love Clay Aiken and he could touch me anywhere he wants!!!! Enough said!

patty Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 12:48 AM EST

I will be the first to say Clay made a mistake. He treated her like he would a friend in a joking manner but it did not go well. HE MADE A MISTAKE! But have you seen the numerous pictures of Kelly putting her hand on Regis! Oh yeah, that was okay!

This is ridiculous to make a mountain out of mole hill!
It is not like he did something absolutely horrible! It was a joke and it didn't suit her. Sorry! He is professed to be an extremely Clean person so how do we know he had not wash his hands before the taping? Kelly was mad because he tried to shut her up in a joking manner. I watched the show and thought it was just an act. I think over the weekend she was steamed up by friends and Howard Stern and by Monday she was ready to take Clay on. How stupid was this whole thing?

He is just a kid who tried to do good job and made a mistake, God there are worse things in the world just let it go. He was sorry and by the way the make over women stated she heard Clay apologize right after the show and he sent her flowers and a note of apology, that should be enough. Even Regis tried to make lite of it and she wouldn't let it go... I think Kelly should apologize to Clay for this who ridiculous mess.

Bob Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:25 PM EST

Who cares?

Katie Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:18 PM EST

What is totally out of line is Ripa making this into a major catastophe -- had she kept it to herself or kept it from the public -- it would have been better -- You would think that she was slapped or something. I saw the interview, she didn't let him get a word in edgewise and I think it was done to irritate Clay and what Clay did was simply a Joke. -- and it is shocking to me that Ripa reacted as badly as that. I haven't been in Rosie's corner for a while but I don't think that her comments are far off base and I think the public and critics are quick to quiet down homophobic remarks because it is yet another put down against gays -- well you don't know what you're talking about because you are gay -- when in fact such comments do in fact have a tinge of homophobia. Even before O'Donnell's comment, I have a different feeling towards Ripa -- she's no longer the nice person I thought she was.

CAROL Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:48 PM EST

tHAT WAS A TOTALLY out of line COMMENT BY oDONNELL. WHO IS SHE TO GO ONT THE AIR AND SPECULATE AS TO RIPAS INTENTIONS OF HER COMMENT? i WOULDVE BELTED THE GUY STICKING HIS HAND OVER MY MOUTH WHETHER GAY OR STRAIGHT. I KNEW IT WOULDNT TAKE LONG FOR ROSIE TO GET UP ON HER VIEW SOAPBOX.

Danissa Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 03:38 PM EST

Kelly Ripa needs to apologize to Clay for being so mean to him and then attacking him publicly. If she had a problem with Clay, she should have taken it up with him privately instead of attacking him and saying she had a good laugh with Howard Stern about it. Howard Stern has been known to make Clay Aiken is gay jokes on air. She has been known to poke at his sexuality herself when she dressed as him for Halloween.

Juju Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:55 PM EST

Sara, please stop drinking so much Starbucks java. You are a classic example of full of dookey person. And good for you! you have a husband who is younger than you are. What are you going to do when he begins to age-trade him in for a newer model?

Willow F Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:02 PM EST

Clay Aiken made a mistake, but he in no way was he as rude or disrespectful as Kelly Dripa was. Ripa has made gay cracks on Clay before. She dressed up as Clay for halloween and then kissed Regis. She is a homophobic, Clay hating twit! She was also shoving pictures of a cat in his face. Not to mention, he kept being interrupted by her. From what I hear, he did apologize privately. But Ms Diva baby had to be a raging witch and go on a media blitz to attack Aiken. That is hardly what I call fair.

Suzie Shayne Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:57 AM EST

Kelly Ripa was a rude and disrespectful to Clay Aiken. I am glad somebody had the guts to put their mouth over her obnoxious mouth. Kelly Ripa would not let Clay even speak. Before that, she bullied him with a picture of cats. Aiken's fear of cats was known by her. She knew that and bullied him with it. It was quite evident by her demeanor that she didn't like him. Never mind what Rosie said. She doesn't know what she's talking about. But Clay was the victim here. Kelly Ripa is an obnoxious diva and very rude to Clay the whole time.

yawn Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:33 AM EST

Take away the lesbianism, take away the extra lard, take away the egotistical,overrated opinions and what's left is Rosie O'Donnell....obnoxious, plain and simple.
Her strident, overbearing attitude defeats her purpose....no one listens to her message because her personality blocks the VIEW.

Beezer Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 09:09 AM EST

Rosie is just jealous because kelly is hot and rosie is "uglier than a bag of ashholes" kelly probably gets "IT" everynight and the last piece of ass rosie got was when her finger poked through the toliet paper

Jeff Beseth Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 08:26 AM EST

Rosie seems "Green with envy". If it was Barbra Walters that had done what Kelly did, I bet Rosie woulda kept her mouth shut.Kelly has become "America's Sweetheart" she is very pretty, has great style and probably tons of job offers.What does Rosie have now?(besides a fat butt and an even fatter mouth)ENVY.What did Rosie do with all her Tom Cruise photo's? I bet in some states, Aikens actions would be considered simple assault. What happened to kelly ripa's "Freedom of speech"? I guess rosie took the "gay" rights over the "woman's" rights stance. Had aiken been straight and the same thing occured, I bet there woulda been a ton of backlash towards him, Does this mean he has Priveledge because he is gay???

Jeff Beseth Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 08:05 AM EST

I bet rosie will blame haggan-das next for her being a fatso

Patricia Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:43 AM EST

Kelly is right, and Clay Aiken was way out of line. My question is why Rosie thought she had to butt in? The biggest mistake Barbara Walters EVER made was to hire Rosie for "The View" - she's absolutely taken over the show and makes a horse's patootie out of herself every few minutes. Cheers for Kelly. Rosie - get out of the way. You're blocking "The View."

SD Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:42 AM EST

THANK YOU KELLI RIPPA!!!!!! I hate to say it Rosie, but its things like this that have made me stop watching The View. I miss Meredith....

jim Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:24 AM EST

forget about all the homo baiting b.s., what Clay did by putting his hand over Kelly's mouth was wrong. You just DO NOT treat a lady that way. Rosie and company should'nt use this as a platform to spread their choice of lifestyle. the man was wrong, admit it and move on!

Lisa Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:01 AM EST

Why did Kelly kiss Regis on the mouth while she was dressed up as Clay and Regis was Bo Bice for Halloween? What kind of statement was Kelly making then? Kelly is a loud, rude and obnoxious cohost. I can't understand why the show would want her on, unless they love the controversy she stirs up. I cannot stomach the show, and watch as she is so disrespectful to Regis. Why can't tv shows have intelligent commentary-people who can speak without being rude to each other, like on George Stephanofugus' (sorry for spelling) "round table" debate. Kelly is trying for the Bill O'Reily's etique, and if she can't outspeak them she will cut them off.

an2ne00 Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 06:56 AM EST

hey sara, are you a fat gay man like rosie? If you have nothing better to do than shoot of your mouth, why don,t you come and count the hair on my nuts for me.

Darren Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 06:23 AM EST

Here is an idea.

WHO CARES? Both are idiots!

David W. Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 06:05 AM EST

Kelly Ripa was initially wrong and bordering on rude when she stifled Clay during the entire interview wiht Emmitt and Cheryl. You can see the frustration and uneasiness in Clay's body language.
Clay was immature and unprofessional in the manner in which he reacted to Ripa's controlling nature. He could have pushed his points verbally rather than put his hand over Kelly's mouth.
IMHO, Kelly's reaction to Clay's putting his hand over her mouth was actually a correct response.
Rosie's statement about Kelly being homophobic was off base and oversensitive.
Rosie owes Kelly an apology. Kelly owes Clay an apology for being a poor co-host to a tyro, and Clay owes Kelly an apology for reacting improperly to Kelly's aggressive nature.
Basically, this is no big deal, apologies offered and accepted, and let's learn something from the over-reactions of egotistical stars.

Reno Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 06:04 AM EST

People forget that Kelly has done the same thing to Regis, and it was okay for her then. I am not sur eif it's homophobia or not, my opinion is she just didn't like him, but I can see where Rosie felt put off by it. If you watched the whole show, you'd see that Clay was doing a rather good job and Kelly kept interupting him. She just seemed jealous and annoyed that he was getting laughs and attention. As for Rosie, she's entitled to her opinion, and we are each entitled to our own also.

Al Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:33 AM EST

This was not homophobia! First and formost when did Clay come out of the closet (despite suspicions)? Truth is, as agressive and blunt Rosie is I know she would have a problem with someone putting their hands on her mouth!! Now I can understand why Rosie would be so quick to call it homophobia. This nation is very negative towards gays and lesbians and maybe Rosie ,who has probably been the target if much hate, might have been a little sensitive and read more than what was there. Last, Kelly might be percieved as homophobe but no one talks of Clays childish behavior!

Kevin Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 04:53 AM EST

Simply put, Kelly's reaction to Clay's insult was perfectly normal and very professioal considering how angry she must have been. Rosie's outburst was, however, heterophobic to the extreme and was a new low in a rapidly declining career.

Pete Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 03:05 AM EST

Is there anybody on television who isn't full of themselves?

Ardith Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 02:22 AM EST

Out of all this commentary, I am bewildered at all the "fat" talk about Rosie. What does that have to do with anything? Has anyone said anything about the 80lb. anorexic, disportionate big-headed Kelly Ripa? Nay, I don't see a single word about her grotesque chest bones that hang out everytime she starts screeching about someting, which is quite often. Or the fact that she has old lady hands, or alienesque eyes due to the vast lack of some much needed body fat...but I guess that in this country, overweight people are an easy target. The last frontier of prejudice. We can't say the "n" word but we can call people "pig," "cow," "fat ass," and the like. I didn't even see the word "FAG." Wow, I guess it's ok to revert back to elementary school when it comes to fat people but everything else needs to adhere to strict political correctness.
Now, to the subject at hand...Ripa is an over rated Junior Leaguer that has as much talent as a dog turd. Rosie may be vocal or loud mouthed, but at least she is intelligent and feels compelled to have an opinion. I think what is most telling of this situation is that Ripa didn't have the class to let Aiken's manner slip-up go by the wayside for the sake of the show. Her true, gangly, ugly colors stood out for all to see. That's too bad because I'm sure the stress of having Aiken touch her mouth caused her to vomit a couple extra times that day. Lay off the laxatives Ripa and maybe you won't be in such a foul mood. And try to have a meal now and then. You just might be a better TV host.

Ardith Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 02:16 AM EST

Out of all this commentary, I am bewildered at all the "fat" talk about Rosie. What does that have to do with anything? Has anyone said anything about the 80lb. anorexic, disportionate big-headed Kelly Ripa? Nay, I don't see a single word about her grotesque chest bones that hang out everytime she starts screeching about someting, which is quite often. Or the fact that she has old lady hands, or alienesque eyes due to the vast lack of some much needed body fat...but I guess that in this country, overweight people are an easy target. The last frontier of prejudice. We can't say the "n" word but we can call people "pig," "cow," "fat ass," and the like. I didn't even see the word "FAG." Wow, I guess it's ok to revert back to elementary school when it comes to fat people but everything else needs to adhere to strict political correctness.

Now, to the subject at hand...Ripa is an over rated Junior Leaguer that has as much talent as a dog turd. Rosie may be vocal or loud mouthed, but at least she is intelligent and feels compelled to have an opinion. I think what is most telling of this situation is that Ripa didn't have the class to let Aiken's manner slip-up go by the wayside for the sake of the show. Her true, gangly, ugly colors stood out for all to see. That's too bad because I'm sure the stress of having Aiken touch her mouth caused her to vomit a couple extra times that day. Lay off the laxatives Ripa and maybe you won't be in such a foul mood. And try to have a meal now and then. You just might be a better TV host.

sfvcyco Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 02:06 AM EST

Does anyone not see that this has everything to do with Kelly Ripa being an uptight b!tch? I dont think it had anything with him being gay but just with her thinking she is the shiznit and that nobody is allowed to touch her. I cant stand Kelly Ripa. I am a heterosexual male and hate Rosie O'Donell and Kelly Ripa and Clay. I never thought I would see the day that I wish Kathy Lee was back. PLEASE FIRE KELLY RIPA!!!!

Tom Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:58 AM EST

Is Clay Aike the best LIVE can come up with for a guest host? Tom Cruise is available, isn't he?
Kelly was absolutely correct for gently admonishing Aiken. She's the star, not ClayBoy She should have bit his hand.
As far a Rosie's comment, Kelly's comment could have been said to anyone of any gender of sexual preference.
O'Donnell should put her own hand on her own mouth and keep her comments to herself.

JANET Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:29 AM EST

Once again, Rosie the riveter has stuck her big fat mouth into something that's none of her ugly business. She should apologize to Kelly for trying to start some unnecessary s____, then she should apologize to Clay for assuming his sexual preference when she doesn't really know and trying to out him like she's trying to out others. She is a fat, sad, pathetic sucker who needs to start to think before she speaks, that way we'd hear a lot less from that fool!!!!!

Cassandra Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:18 AM EST

Regardless of the fact if clay is gay or not. He should have not put his hands near her mouth. And for Rosie, she should have not said anything. Because it really was about manners and you do not put your hands on someones mouth.

Courtney Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:57 AM EST

Rosie is mad that no one likes her, and she thought that by saying this people would listen to her. I thought she was gone for good after Caroline Rhea took over for her. Please so away Rosie and shut your fat mouth. Here's a twinkie.

Jenna Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:55 AM EST

Someone should just punch Rosie and Clay and call it a day.

Chris Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:54 AM EST

Shut up Rosie. No one likes you.

Kyle Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:48 AM EST

What's homophobic about not wanting someone's hand over your mouth. But even if he is gay, that's his business. Rosie is a fat pig and just likes to cause trouble. If Barbara Walters covered her mouth she would have a fit and call Barbara homophobic for not letting her talk. That's her agenda, any opinion against her's is homophobic. Get a life you nasty wench.

Adam Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:34 AM EST

Aiken is heterosexual until he says otherwise. Therefore, O'Donnell has no right to even breath a word about homophobia. It wasn't her hand that was covering Ripa's mouth.

Big Daddy Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:28 AM EST

Rosie is a fat pig... She's all about contraversy and ratings. For her to say that about kelly is a disgrace.

Anna Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:17 AM EST

Clay felt disrespected and insecure because Kelly Ripa was running all over him. She was not making space for him and being as welcoming as she should have to her guest cohost. Clay handled it very poorly, and his actions were SEXIST--he would not have done that to a man. However, the way Kelly Ripa reacted could have been partly from anger at his disrespect/sexism but also--arguably--partly from homophobia. Why else would she have said "I don't know where that hand has been?" Kelly might have reacted differently if it had been a cute straight man. Rosie is partly right but her view does not seem nuanced enough. Let's acknowledge everyone's prejudices here.

Ken D. Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:17 AM EST

Ripa's comment was benign enough to shrug off as innocent, but in her heart she knows she was making a gay joke. And all the people out there defending her probably know that's true, but for whatever reason they're more interested in taking this opportunity to bash O'Donnell. None of it would really matter if she were trying to be funny (though her judgment still would be questionable), but she made the comment in a moment of anger to strike out, which in my eyes makes it "homophobic" and wrong.

Linda Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 12:00 AM EST

Rosi, you should mind her own ass! You just want some attention...since you joined The View, the show became as boring as hell. Kelly has a right her mouth not to be touched by anybody regardless of sexuality and for Rosi to make such a stupid comment infront of the world is amazing. Once a stupid, always a stupid.

Sara Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 11:38 PM EST

Oh why do I feel dragged back into this - human nature I guess

Yes - Clay made a faux pas.

But I have only disdain for anyone who applauds or supports Kelly's behavior during that Friday show.

Fini - Fini - Fini - Fini - Fini - Fini - Fini (isn't Fini such a clean crisp looking word?)

JB Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 11:38 PM EST

You all realize that you are arguing a moot point that took place between Rosie and Kelly, right??? Ok, just checking.

Sara Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 11:11 PM EST

Nope - I don't speak French - - I just like the clean look of the word "Fini" - Plain and Simple.

You want to make something of it because you know French? Go right ahead. No skin off me.

JOE D Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 11:08 PM EST

I think they all need to be taken out back and spanked. Clay was outta line, but he gets a near pass from me, just because he was clearly also outta his league, and didn't know what to do as a co-host. Ripa was entitled to be pissed, but let's face it, she is a diva w/ a capital D, and she did her self no favors by making such a big deal outta the whole thing. The whole germa-phobia thing was really weak... How about, "You don't touch people you just met?" and leaving it at that? And Rosie.... Rosie, Rosie, Rosie. Time to do an Oprah, and tell us all about how wrong you were. Only this time, no one will really care.


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