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The PopWatch Interview: Hugh Jackman on 'X-Men 3'

Jan 6, 2006, 03:05 PM | by Neil Drumming

Categories: Film, X-Men

145328__wolverine_lWord is X-Men's Wolverine is getting some new moves. Freshman mutants in the movie franchise, like Angel and Beast, hog all the buzz these days, but don't expect the vet to sit on the sidelines filing his claws. In fact, Hugh Jackman, who plays the hotheaded, cigar-smoking superhero, recently told Entertainment Weekly's Neil Drumming that X-Men 3, directed by Brett Ratner and opening May 26, will roll out a much more refined Wolvie.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What's different about Wolverine 3.0?

HUGH JACKMAN: We tried to incorporate a little more of some of the artwork of the comics into Wolverine's fighting style. I was very adamant at the beginning in 1 and 2 -- I used to watch tapes of Mike Tyson -- and I was like, I don't want it to be pretty. I don't want it to be martial arts. I don't want him to be anything other than, like, a street fighter. He doesn't fight for the sake of fighting. If he can take someone's head off in the first punch, he'll take it off. Simon [Crane, stunt coordinator for Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Troy, and both Tomb Raiders] kind of convinced me and we worked on some styles of incorporating some of the artwork in the comics, which is a little stylized, more to use what his strength is -- which is [that he's] small. Me, I'm actually a tall man, so that took a little training and I worked hard on that.

So here's the big question: Will fans of the comic book be satisfied -- especially since Brett Ratner is new to the franchise?
Oh, yeah. There's a lot of things we really tried to get in 1 and 2 which -- I don't mean to be blunt -- were just real expensive and we couldn't get them in until 1 and 2 were so successful. So there's some sequences there that the fans -- if you go to that midnight screening on the first night, they'll just be going ballistic. There's some specific choreography, famous fighting moves, that we use in this movie that we haven't been able to do before.

The fans have been the foundation of the success of this movie and they're never forgotten. Trust me. No decision is made without considering the history of each character. You don't want to come in and just rewrite the history books. And let's face it: If I do a disservice to Wolverine, I can easily be spat on in the street.

What's up with a possible Wolverine spin-off?
I'm into it. We're actually working on a script. X-Men is an ensemble movie, even if some characters are in it more than others. It's about the X-Men. I love playing the part. I think it's the best part going around. I may be biased, but I think there's so much still to be mined, still to be learned from that [character]. I think it will stand up to a feature-length movie. And we've had some really amazing interests from some great filmmakers and great writers also really intrigued by the character.

Would you consider writing it yourself?
I will always put my input in from the actor's point of view. At this point I feel like I know the character, from some perspective, incredibly well, so I will always have a lot to say. But no.

Adam Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:49 PM EST

I know people are complaining because their favorite characters are not getting enough time. It is impossible for the movie version of the X-Men to cover all the characters and storylines that were in the comics. It'd take a 100 movies to do that. As soon as Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry stop being in the X-Men franchise I'll lose interest. Wolverine is my favorite character and I will be a faithful fan as long as he is around.

Adam Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:42 PM EST

X-men 3. It was good but here are the problems. Juggernaut should have been cgi because he is the same size as the Hulk. Juggernaut is xaviers brother in the comics but acts like he doesnt recognize him in the movie. When Wolverine and Storm were at the lake in the beginning, Wolverine said he couldnt see a thing. His super senses should have let him navigate through any fog. Wolverines entire skeletal structure is covered with adamantium, including his jaw. I There has been times where a regular human has hit him in the face and not hurt their hand. Any norman person hitting Wolverine in the jaw should have broken their hand. I think there should have a big Colossus/Juggernaut fight. Also, what happened to Sabertooth? He has a healing factor like Wolverine and should have survived the fall. One more thing, we all know in the Marvel world death is not a permanent state for anyone.

sorn Fri, Feb 2, 2007 at 04:40 AM EST

hi. Just wondering why the mystically powered Juggernaut didn't immediately attack his step brother charles xavior on sight? The Juggernaut could have been a movie on its own.

Ace Mon, May 29, 2006 at 05:16 PM EST

i think that there might be an X men 4 khuz at the end magneto still had some of his powers so that might mean that the cure was onli temporary and aat the end of the credits Prof. X was still alive, he was the old hairy guy that he was talking about. B4 he died he put his powers into someone else, so iono...there hopefulli will be an X men 4.

Ace Mon, May 29, 2006 at 05:16 PM EST

i think that there might be an X men 4 khuz at the end magneto still had some of his powers so that might mean that the cure was onli temporary and aat the end of the credits Prof. X was still alive, he was the old hairy guy that he was talking about. B4 he died he put his powers into someone else, so iono...there hopefulli will be an X men 4.

Lame A$$ Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:52 PM EST

This movie stank! It sucks chocolate nutty balls! I was so disappointed and let down. Oh my gosh, they f*en ruin the movie. The script really sucked and this is no way to end the whole Xmen saga. I hate to say this but my DVD ends with X2. *BEEP* that!!! Ok, who let this joke direct this movie and finish something so good from the last two to this crap!? Thanks for ruining my collection *beep*!

israel Sun, May 21, 2006 at 09:31 PM EST

well the only obvious reason I can think of for Rogue not having flight or strength is, she hasnt stole it from Marvel Girl yet. About Storm/Halle Berry I think she just wants more of a spot light on herself. Storm is not one of the biggest characters in the book, I dont know too many people who say hey I want to buy and x-men comic book because storm is in it. You would buy and X-men book for the "X-Men", if not then for Wolverine and Gambit who happen to be the most popular X-men characters. Even if Halle Berry didnt come back, there would still be the X-Men, she really isnt an important character. As far as Rogue dying I doubt it along with Cyclops. The person who will get cured maybe some unknown mutant or even some mutant who may not like be the way they are such as Beast. In the comic books he went through so many changes trying to make himself look more human its not funny. but thats just my thoughts...

Chris Fri, May 19, 2006 at 11:22 PM EST

Okay...I have a few questions to ask anyone who feels like answering them. In all the trailers it shows Storm, Logan, Kitty, Ice Man, and Colossis (sorry if i spelt it wrong!)all waiting to fight the charging brotherhood. WHere is Cyclops and Rogue? Do they die! I pray not! My guess is that rogue gets the cure and maybe has a bad sideffect that kills her or something! Everyone is always talking about how they cheated storm, or logan or whatever...but the most cheated out of their character in the comic books is Rogue! DOes she fly or have strength in the movies? No!
I have so much respect for Halle Berry! She actually said "I'm not doing X3 unless storm is like she was in the comicbooks! SHe is like my hero now! All fans of the comic books should a-pre-she-ate this action!
One more question...does Jean die? Anyone know?
THANKS!!!!!

Steward Fri, May 19, 2006 at 10:05 PM EST

The 7 minutes trailers did show Wolverine move. It is cool. cannot wait until it coming out

http://www.opida.com/Cat/Entertainment/X-MEN_THE_LAST_STAND/default.aspx

J Fri, May 12, 2006 at 08:04 PM EST

People one question , if Cyclops dies , then who is the one Storm Says 'If you are with us , be with us ' ? If not him ?

J-Mac Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 10:27 PM EST

Luke asked who Arclight was and she was a member of Sinister's Marauders. Those who don't know the marauders were formed by Gambit doing a "favor" for Sinister. Sabretooth led the team that included Rip Tide, Arclight, Blockbuster, Scalphunter and some other guys. During the fight in the tunnels Night Crawler was hurt and Angel lost his wongs which led him to become Death.

I liked X1 and 2 and can't wait for 3.

shane Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:54 PM EST

Nothing I scanned thru in comments mentions how disappointing Rogue has been. She has very little to do for the first 2, and now that this one is clouded with 4,000 characters.. who knows.
The only other thing i want to say, is anyone that thinks they cant or wont make another Xmen movie is INSANE.. this is hollywood. wake up! anyone can be replaced. besides magneto doesnt have to come back in the next one anyway. they fought other people, including my fave... ARCADE. now, thats a movie. xmen in murderworld.

israel Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 01:15 PM EST

Oh and one more thing, just compare the trailers of X Men 3 and Superman, you can see how lame the superman flick is going to be, if thats not reason enough I dont know what to tell you...

israel Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 01:11 PM EST

I was reading the lower comments and some people were commenting on Superman being the movie to see this year. Sorry to say it, but it’s a lame character and it will be a lame movie. There is no way anybody can be called a hero when the person wears his underwear’s outside of his pants on the big screen! Plus they just screwed it all up when they said that the movie would be in-between 2 and 3, that’s just retarded! And third, why is it that nobody recognizes him without his glasses? He was great back in the day because there was nobody to compare him to. I mean seriously who did you have back then when he came out, CPT Marvel, Flash Gordon and Dick Tracey...oooo I am shaking in my boots! And the only reason why his 1st comics are worth so much many is just because he was one of the first super heroes of his kind and two they are just hard as hell to find due to the paper shortage during world war II, people used to recycle them. First off I think they screwed up with him when they gave him so many dang powers. I mean seriously, his speed, strength, flight, bullet proof, laser eyes, super hearing, ice cold breathe, and I am sure I am forgetting some other powers. I mean if a person has so many abilities he can never be truly great with any of his powers. I mean think about it, he is not faster than flash, or quick silver, he isn’t stronger than the Hulk, I am pretty sure Wolverine can cut through him, his laser eyes isn’t as strong as Cyclops, his cold winter fresh breathe isn’t as cold as Ice man, so what is so super about him? Doomsday killed him! come on now, then he came back with some different powers trying to spice him up, sort of like Metallica coming out with a new cd or vanilla ice doing the same songs but in rock, then realized people didn’t really like it, so they went back to the original. When will they face it, he isn’t Superman but Averageman!

israel Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 01:03 PM EST

On my comment the following should have been written,
children would not understand, rather than children understand.

israel Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 04:33 PM EST

I think there is so much to the X-Men comics that all of the history would not be able to be transferred to the big screen. I also realize that the movie industry is trying to capture a larger audience, rather than just the comic geeks. X-Men is such a hard comic book to translate to such a broad audience especially children because there is so much that children would understand about it. X-Men was created in the ‘60’s, and if you grew up in that time you would really relate to X-Men. My personal opinion is that it was a way to deal with racism at that time. Professor Xavier is like the Martin Luther King, or Harriet Tubman figure in this book. Instead of trying to make peace between different races he is trying to settle the differences between humans and mutants so everybody can live in Harmony. But obviously going from point A to point B is going to be a whole lot harder than it is said.
As for the character Wolverine, he is my favorite out of everybody in the X-Men; in fact that has been my fighting name in the martial arts for a long time. Heck I even grew out my hair and side burns a few years back before the movie came out and looked like him. It was a good time, but I do agree that having a PG 13 Wolverine is a bad idea. I think that is why Spawn did so poorly in the box office, actually that is the reason why Spawn did so poorly. First look at the X-Men movie I noticed that Wolverine was actually tall, which is contradictory to the name itself. A Wolverine in life is a small animal that is very fierce! But I realize that Hollywood wanted a taller person to make him look more heroic. Understandable; about the fighting styles of Wolverine, you must realize that not only does he have a military background, but also spent a lot of time in Japan training as a samurai. This is what he tried to do, to control his temper, and it worked to some extent, so why not apply that to the movie? It should work something like this, Wolverine encounters an enemy he uses his skills that he has gained throughout the years tactically and very proficient, second level he gets mad, gets a little careless, but still thinks before he acts, third he gets furious, this is where flames comes out of his eyes, and he kills anything in his way, his animal side the side of him that he can not control (almost like the Incredible Hulk)
Spider man is a great character because he is a super hero with everyday problems. Wolverine is a great character because his biggest enemy is himself. He is constantly struggling to keep his humanity while trying to discover who he really is.

carl Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 01:56 AM EST

Well if it wasn't for the comics, the films wouldn't have been created, so why stray from the original plot and ruin the film with stuff that didn't even happen in the X-men universe? I'm by far no comic geek, but the movies would be much more enjoyable and refreshing if they didn't distort the actual events that they are inspired by. I will give this one a look, but it's probably going to be a dissapointment like some comic book-to film adaptations.

carl Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 01:56 AM EST

Well if it wasn't for the comics, the films wouldn't have been created, so why stray from the original plot and ruin the film with stuff that didn't even happen in the X-men universe? I'm by far no comic geek, but the movies would be much more enjoyable and refreshing if they didn't distort the actual events that they are inspired by. I will give this one a look, but it's probably going to be a dissapointment like some comic book-to film adaptations.

Cito Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:28 PM EST

I've seen the trailer and I think it rocks. All you comic book geeks out there are too unforgiving if a movie strays from the hardcore comic book story-line. Remember the Dark Phoenix Saga is too far fetched and unrealistic to put into a 2 hour movie. Let the new movie come out and just appreciate a new spin on a tired story-line. I think Brett Ratner wil do a fantastic job. Look what he did in "Red Dragon". It was a much better film than the one directed by "his majesty" Ridley Scott "Hannibal". Geeks, let the movie premiere, go see it and if you do not like it, do not see it again. Leave this franchise to the ones that can truly appreciate these characters finally being brought to life.......

Anthony Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 02:56 PM EST

Hey, just caught this from a link...but to solve the GAMBIT problem i think it would be a real cool idea if they added him to the Wolverine movie in some way. Maybe with Jubilee in there too somewhere since they were in quite a bit of the comics. Although I don't see this happening because I'm sure it'll be all about Logan and Weapon X.

x Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 08:53 PM EST

You people really need to get over cyclops. I know he is a part of the xmen and all that but he is a complete stereotype who can be found in every other comic book and story that has some sort of team trying to save the world. The reason wolverine and storm have larger roles are because they are much more interesting characters.

ragcajun72 Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 07:01 PM EST

I have to throw in my 2cents Cher, GAMBIT should have been in X2 or X3. I agree with most of the folks here about Nightcrawler and Gambit.
I am Cajun and it was nice to see a character from my home state, that spoke like us and was just awesome. It's weird since Hurrican Katrina I think us folks from LA would have liked to see a RAGIN CAJUN!

I love your posts. It's great to know I have folks out there that love Gambit tooo. He is my favorite X MAN!

Laissez Les Bons Temps Rouler! (Let the Good Times Rolls)

Dynzyg Wed, Mar 8, 2006 at 10:03 PM EST

i do believe if there is a wolverine "spin off" that there is one thing that should be considered, in the comic books wolverine becomes a mentor to "kitty" a muntant with "phaseing" powers. she was seen in x2 running through the walls. but i'm sure you missed that in the comics.... as they say "never leave the movies up the the marketing guys, the fans would agree!!!

carl Wed, Mar 8, 2006 at 08:57 PM EST

don't jump to conclusions, just yet. maybe cyclops will finally have a key role in this film and not die. but their is a fifty percent chance that he will die in the first ten minutes, assuming that his character is made a mockery of like in the last two films. personally, cyclops is my favorite character. in the comics, he was seen as the LEADER and not some fill-in like in the movies. his mutant power is the hardest to overcome, since he has to always sheild his eyes with something red and fluorescent, yet he overcomes that, finds love in another like him, and he is STILL able to be the leader of the x-men. i agree with a lot of you, i will be pissed if they mistreat his character, and flaunt characters like wolverine or magneto. i think james marsden is great as scott summers/cyclops, with what limited time he is given in prior films. if there is mor x-men films after this one, which i don't doubt, cyclops should be portrayed as the leader and not some minimal character who is over-shadowed by wolverine or storm. what's so special about them anyway? cyclops or bust...
anyway, who's ready for MORTAL KOMBAT 3 ?!?!?!

B Wed, Mar 8, 2006 at 05:56 PM EST

The TRAILER gives EVERYTHING about the movie away!!! Ok, cyclops is upset about jean, he dies, there is a funeral, jean turns into dark phoniex, joins the bad side with magneto. Iceman finds new love.Rogue is upset. Oh look a "cure" for the mutants. Bad guys get upset, start a war. Good guys fight the bad guys. Good guys win. Dark Phoniex turns good again at the end of film. THE END. enough said.

The Dark Phoenix Thu, Mar 2, 2006 at 12:24 AM EST

The funeral in X-Men 3 is indeed for Cyclops. Apparently, the screen writers thought it plauseable that Cyclops kill himself because he couldn't live without Jean. That is the main reason why Jean becomes the Dark Phoenix.

In all actuality, they needed to find a way to phase Cyclops out of the movie since his time working on Superman limited his role in X3.

Don Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 05:11 AM EST

Had it occurred to anyone that maybe Cyclops and the Prof aren't in the funeral scene because they are up at the front speaking or getting ready to come out to speak? Someone usually gives an ulogy or a reading and that would probably be the Professor or Cyke. Just a thought.

Keith Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 07:34 PM EST

X-men films are sell-out films catered to a few actors and written in a way so as to try to get as much money as possible at the expense of being true to the comics. Cyclops is number one and should be front and center. They took away his leadership in the last film and are doing it now officially in the next by making Wolverine leader. This film is not worth seeing as it is continuing to discredit the books. Cycke should lead ithe Pheonix saga.

Nat Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:40 AM EST

Was just reading through the comments and noticed the funeral discussion. The reason I would give for it not being Jean is that Beast is seen at the funeral, yet no Cyclops. Beast as you know had no role in X2 so it would be odd for him to be mourning someone he didn't know....and surely Cyclops would be there?? I don't know who it is actually for, Prof X and Cyclops aren't seen in the trailer, but both are huge in the comics, though Cyclops is rumoured to have a lesser role in X3. Anyway, trailers are supposed to be misleading.....

Luke Thu, Feb 9, 2006 at 09:20 AM EST

Everyone fell off the face of the earth...

Looks like I'll have to take over the Institure...

Luke Mon, Feb 6, 2006 at 07:18 PM EST

Hey guys, whats newwwww? kwill I did see that Iceman does "ice-up" for a one scene in the movie, along with him fighting Pyro since they were both good friends in the first 2 films, so we'll see how it works. Did I mention to everyone that I'm sooooooooooooooooo exciteddddddddd for this movie!

And about the x-men vs. spiderman franchise, my vote personally goes to X-men because i follow them more and like lexy said, there are more characters and I think there storylines are better. Don't get me wrong I love spiderman and the movies are awesome, I just like X-Men better. I think spiderman will do better movie wise cause you don't have as many characters to bring abck like the X-men...BUt there are Wolverine and Magneto spinoff films so they got an up there...LATERRRRR

Luke

Lexy Mon, Feb 6, 2006 at 03:58 PM EST

I would definately say the X-men is better... for some reason i dont really like the spiderman movies.

I think that with X-men, there are so many characters that you never get bored. And with more characters, it appeals to more people. =)...thats just what i think though.

Lexy

kwill Mon, Feb 6, 2006 at 02:14 PM EST

I've been reading some rumors about Spiderman 3, which which made me wonder. Which movie franchise do you guys think is better, Spiderman or X-men?

kwill Sun, Feb 5, 2006 at 09:51 PM EST

I heard that Iceman does ice briefly in the film. Which I think will be pretty cool, because he is called Iceman for a reason.

lexy Sun, Feb 5, 2006 at 07:14 PM EST

no freaking way. iceman vs. pyro would be soooo kickass.

oh, and i heard iceman does some ice sliding, or whatever u wanna call it in the movie. that sounds like fun.

lexy

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Luke Sat, Feb 4, 2006 at 06:52 PM EST

Well yeah I don't really know what to say except I'm really excited for this movie to come out and a few of my top things I'm looking for in the movie are as follows(in no particular order)...

- Who dies and how they die, also what mutants lose their powers because of the "cure"
- How often Colossus will turn into metal and all that deal you know
- A vicious fight between Iceman and Pyro(although I hear Iceman doesn't "ICE-UP" he is still badass...
- Seeing Multiple Man multiply himself into like 50 guys
- What new mutants are in the brotherhood that we might have seen but have no idea who they are just yet...and how they all break out of prison(cough magneto cough)
- Sentinals???
- And finally, I hope Beast gets all acrobatic like he does in the comics and cartoon...kinda like Nightcrawler was

Ok so I know thats a lot of stuff to look for but I have a good feeling they will all happen...I dunno we'll just see

And yes Lexy, you have a great point with the whole Magneto story...

Luke

Lexy Fri, Feb 3, 2006 at 07:02 PM EST

lmao woaaah holy crap Kaisa you wrote a hella lot.
(and it's Jean Grey, not Jane Grey) =)

anywho Luke, I didn't know who Arclight was either until i looked it up on an X-men site...Apperantly it's a girl (?!) and only appeared in a few comics.
I'm still not totally sure about it, but that site seemed pretty darn confident it was who they said it was.

Oh...and just a thought here.
But I think the Magneto spin-off will be a lot more interesting than a Wolvie one....i dont know why, but the whole Holocaust thing might bring attention to more people than just the X-men fans.

Lexy

Kaisa Thu, Feb 2, 2006 at 07:29 AM EST

I just have to give you an Old World point of view.

Somewhere way below Pendragon had five excellent points about comic book movies that I totally agree with. Despite the fact that comics and movies share certain characteristics they are two different things. Things that work in comics won't work on film and vice versa. So there you go. There may well be someone who can picture Woverine wearing yellow spandex in a movie, but I can't. Just fancy!

X-men may well be a big thing on your side of the Pond, but there really aren't that many x-men comic fans around the Globe. So they have to make certain adjustments to the story-line if they want to sell the movies globally. And they want, trust me.

Personally, I couldn't care less about the X-men comics (Ah, just shoot me >;) and don't get me started on why not. But I do love the movies, so there you go. I even made the possible mistake of buing few Wolverine comics after the last film and wasn't that impressed with the art and story (Please, reload, would you?) but that may well be because of my childhood with mostly European comics. It nevertheless goes to show what an impact a well constructed movie universe can have.

Someone complained about Wolverine having a such a prominent role in X1&2, but consider this: Half of the population is female, so you need to have something for them(us) if you want to gain (and keep) their(our) interest. And it is as Jane G says in X2 with "bad guys". I'm quite sure I wouldn't have gone to see the movies if I hadn't been familiar with Wolverine's character before that (Aye, it's the dark side in me causing that). And the movie/money-makers sure don't mind having our money too.

Oh, by the way, Logan's younger brother (or some other male relative) seems to be hosting the top40 show on a Finnish tv-channel (you'll know what and where Finland is if you have been watching Conan O'Brian lately). I couldn't find any pics on the net, but the likeness is there, even if the "younger brother" is not dark, bitter and twisted. So, how about that.

Luke Wed, Feb 1, 2006 at 06:30 PM EST

Lexy holy crap that is HUGE news lol. But first, from what MANY sources say this X3 is the last movie and they are making it a trilogy, since its call "The Last Stand" and all. But they are making a Wolverine AND Magneto spinoff movies so the X-Men gone hollywood is far from over. And Shah, about Juggernaut, they can only make him so big and to make it somewhat realistic in the movie, they have to make him that size I'm guessing. But who knows, I hope he gets freggin bigger too but we'll only have to wait and see..

And lexy, good job getting the info bud, and I remember when we were asking each other if that really was sunfire or not, but I guess in the end it is. That will be alright I think, cause that actor is a good one and starred in Rush Hour which Ratner directed. If Sunfire had the mask and all it would look kinda dorky, and the movies are just bringing you the characters as to what they would look like in real life...so I'm ok with that. And Arclight? Suprisely I've never even heard of that mutant, but I guess it's ok, although I would have liked to see avalanche.

Heres what I don't get though....certain characters who are good in the comics are bad in the movie. Sunfire, Psylocke, Multiple Man, and probably a few more we don't know of yet played mostly a good guy here or there in the comics, and I think mamking them bad now kinda throws things off? But I trust Ratner and too see what he might do...

I don't expect many too agree with me here but thats just what I think, but thanks Lexy for tbhe info, I'm even more pumped now....

Shah Wed, Feb 1, 2006 at 06:04 PM EST

Sorry guys last question will Wolverine fight Juggernaut in the sequal?..

Shah Wed, Feb 1, 2006 at 06:01 PM EST

I am a big fan though of X Men i will be looking forward to the movie this year... are there gonna more X Men movies coming out?.

Shah Wed, Feb 1, 2006 at 05:54 PM EST

Just a question is juggernaut gonna remain like the way theyve showed him or are the producers gonna actually make him more built?... because in the comics and cartoons he is big..

lexy Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 04:39 PM EST

oh, luke...i have a little update for you. *that asian guy* IS DEFINATELY DEFINATELY Sunfire. He's played by Ken Leung. and apparently...well according to a site i was on anyways, The guy you thought was avalanche is supposed to be Arclight. =/

Caleb Perry Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:58 AM EST

I don't get who the funeral is for either. I'm still excited about the movie anyway. I'm glad that they finally brought beast into the picture. I love all the characters alot.

Luke Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 09:48 PM EST

Hey guys, I'm not saying I know this for sure but I've read different articles and tried to piece things together and I'm pretty sure that funeral will be for cyclops, because for one hes not sitting with the others while they are going on with the service, and also in the trailer you see Cyclops glasses floating to Wolverine (and who can move objects with their mind? jean grey) A lot of people think Jean kills cyclops because she is under the Phoenixs control and can't stop it, later to find out she did it. In the teaser is shows Wolverine holding Jean while she is crying and I think that is when he tells her what she has done. Plus you don't see Cyclops throughout the whole trailer basically. One last thing I'm guessing is the actor who plays Cyclops is also in Superman Returns, so he might have had a short role in this movie so he could go work on Superman, since both productions overlapped each other. This is just my thought of it, but it can be a pretty good bet its Cyclops, or maybe even Jean or maybe even the Professor??? Thats my take on it...I gues we'll just have to see come May 26th, 2006 :) :) :)

Luke

X-Thing Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 06:52 PM EST

Well the way I see it (and as you have all been saying on this board), Cyclops was a fanboy puller, never a main character, so it wouldn't be surprising if the fact that his part is so small in the trailer is simply due to the fact that he doesnt do much in the film, and that what i said 2 posts ago was true! Anyone got any other info???

True_X_23 Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 09:15 AM EST

I just asked myself the same questions, X-thing, but I have no clue what this whole funeral thing is all about. If it were Jean's memorial service, I'd guess the teaser was simply cut and edited in a sh***y way. And, yes, why do we see Jean and the others throughout the whole teaser, but no Cyclops? Yet I'm sure he ain't dying. Would stand in no relation to the comics, so it's quite unlikely.
My favorite character is good ol' Jim (Logan).
cya

X-Thing Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:25 PM EST

ok... so Jean "died" (as far as the x-men know) at the end of the last movie... there is a funeral scene in the trailer for this movie... yet everyone is hypothesising that it is CYCLOPS' funeral?! Surely it makes more sense to guess that it is a funeral for Jean - this would make sense with regards to the Hollywood formula on this kind of thing - all the characters think someone is dead, mourn, only to have them come back later in the film??? Or am I missing some HUGE point that means that it can't be Jean's funeral (or memorial service, as I suppose it would be called)?

kwill Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 08:08 PM EST

Beast rules, but nightcrawler is my favorite x-man. Pietro Maximoff is my favorite mutant.

Luke Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 05:48 PM EST

No belts lexy, just a backhand....

ohhhhh just kidding, thats your opinion, and you seem like a very good person, so its alllll good...atleast from lukes standpoint

unless being whipped with a belt is a favorite of yours...?

Luke

lexy Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 02:46 PM EST

lol man of course i loveeee Gambit. Him, Storm, Psylocke, Rogue, Iceman.. They're all my favs. Actually...i think the only chars i dont love are cyclops, beast, and banshee.

God...I know I'm gonna get soooo yelled at for that.

lol....I know they're main characters and all...there's just something I don't like about them.
*braces self for severe whipping with a belt*

Luke Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 10:14 AM EST

lexy you know you like it...and I couldnt think of anyone else to write down...I'll be shocked if they put Gambit into the Wolverine movie, but who knows

I love X-Men....see you later

Luke

lexy Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 11:57 PM EST

lol...it seems just about everyone loves that dang Ragin Cajun

Luke Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 07:09 PM EST

Hi my names Luke and I'll be playing the role of Gambit in the "Wolverine" spinoff movie...

Have a good day....

Luke

kwill Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 10:44 PM EST

Amen Luke. I also believe that the franchise had some good points, but any true fan will have some problems with the movies and it is natural to want to vent them in a forum suchas this. It does not mean we are not adults just big fans. how old are you anyway franchise? Sounds like you are old as hell.

Cool Hand Luke Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 12:13 PM EST

Hey Franchise, first off let people have their own opinions and what they think is going to happen, don't bash what they say. Secondly, maybe you are the only adult in this room, we may be all kids who knows. Third, maybe Alan Cumming had other jobs to work on, but the IDEA of having 2 blue characters PLUS money were in fact two issues the movie was facing, so don't think your answer is the only answer. And fourth, stop living in your parents basement my friend...its time to join the Xavier Institute for Gifted Youngsters. We are all friends here, we are all fans, we should all get along.

Have a nice day :)

Luke

Luke Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:06 PM EST

The Franchise does have some good points....but you can let other people believe what they want to and stick to their own opinions.......not go get outta your parents basement and stop bashing people....

Plus money issues were in fact ONE of the problems Nightcrawler did return....so go eat it

Have a nice day :)

Luke

lexy Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 06:58 PM EST

ok I'm back, but i can't remember where i was headed with that post. All i can remember is how long it took me to think up "woah nelly"....and it wasnt even that good.....Sorry guys. i hate when i forget shit.

lexy Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:23 AM EST

woaaaaah nelly.

dude, we're just here to discuss what/who we think will be or do in the movie...not to bash it...(well me and some others anyways)...the people who bashed the movie haven't come back, if you've noticed. Anywho, you have some good points too.

Shit im late. i'll continue this later. lol

TheFranchise Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 08:32 PM EST

Okay...maybe I'm the only adult in the room...but what I have read up to this point is making my eyes bleed. To begin with...it's not a "speedball special"...it's a "fastball special". Second...Longshot and Dazzler have no need of being anywhere near associated with this movie. Third...the fact that Cyclops "was" the team leader back in the 70's...until Storm took over...is a moot point. Storm was/is a very successful team leader...giving me plenty of confidence that putting her in that role in the movie is not only okay...but actionable. Cyclops is a wet blanket compared to either Storm or Wolverine (Fall of the Mutants)...when they had the leading role on the team. Fourth...all anyone has read so far are a few selected quotes that may or may not be accurate...and seen a 60 second trailer that doesn't even amount to the tip of the iceberg. Fifth...people are already ticked off about the funeral scene...and don't even know who it's for...who is in the background scenery...or the "possible" thought that maybe some are back at the Mansion dealing with other duties. (If it is Scott's funeral...the assumption would be that others would be at the mansion trying to assist Jean...seeing as how she is the one who returned and killed him! (Maybe she read the comic book and got pissed off about the platinum-haired whore Scott was sleeping with before she died the second time!) Sixth...the reason Nightcrawler is not in the movie is because the actor who portrayed him (Allan Cummings) was scheduled to be filming two other projects at the time...not because there was a money issue...or because two blue mutants is one too many. Seventh...speaking as a long-term fan of the X-series...dating back to the original death of the Phoenix...let me remind you that there was only one funeral in the history of the X-series...and that was Jean's. Eighth...there is no reason to crap all over Ratner...YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET!! And to be honest...there is no reason to crap on Singer...because if not for him...this topic...this discussion...may not even exist. And finally...with all of this anger being tossed around about who is and who is not in this or any other X movie...you are not showing your intelligence regarding the X-series...but your own personal bias. How many differnt X teams have been put together? How many leaders have there been? How successful have they all been at one time or another...when facing any number of threats? It seems to me...given the fact that I've been following the X-series for approximately 27 years...that any combination of "X-Men" are enough to fit the bill...no matter who they face (Phoenix and Galactus excluded). So again...all of this rage being shown does not advance anything by anyone. It simply shows that there are too many people that feel the X-series is their version of Burger King...where they "get it their way right away". Grow up...be realistic...and enjoy the movies for what they are...entertainment...not a platform for your rediculous ranting. Have a nice day.

luke Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:33 PM EST

Keith is absolutely right! I've been trying to say this all along! Even if Cyclops isn't the most powerful mutant or James Marsden hasn't played him well enough, is still a joke as to why hes been so cut out of this franchise already. First off, if the rumors are true, and Cyclops does die in X3, myself along with millions of other will be PISSSSSSED. As a collector of the comics, Cyclops is one of the few IMPORTANT pieces that make the X-Men what they are. Plus, if he dies in X3, during the whole Phoenix saga, which he was so important in during the comics, that will ruin a HUGE chunk of the movie for me and I think many would agree. People have to look past the movies and how he is overshadowed by Storm and Wolverine and realize this is the real team leader, the original, the numero uno! Yeah, I'm spending a whole message on Cyclops but his character deserves it and I could go on all day about him. Yeah, so maybe Marsden could have spoke to Singer about making his role a little bigger and better, but he shouldn't have had to. I liked Singer and all, but he was a dumbass on that part. Oh well, I'm really excited for the movie, but I guess we'll just have to see how it goes...

Luke

keith Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 03:21 PM EST

I do not buy that Marsden being on Superman is a good reason why he does not appear much on X-Men. He cannot have that much to do on the set of Superman. And if they really wanted to, there are many ways they could make it work. Cgi at times, closups filmed later with distant action shots done with a stand in or cgi, interjecting into scenes that are filmed at another time more condusive to his schedule, and the many magical ways films are put togeather these days. The truth is he has never been a primary focus. I will boycott also and i have been collecting the books for over 20 years. Cyclops not being represented credibly ruins the entire franchise. What was the reason he was limited in X1 and X2 when his schedule was okay? And the pheonix saga? they are really going to limit him in that? X-men movies are not x-men movies at all. They don't represent the books enough. And a Halle Berry led team? Her selfishness is probably what has bumped Cyke out of what should be his shining moment. Oh what has x-men come to?

Luke Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:10 PM EST

Losers....

kwill Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:46 PM EST

Actually it was me lexy, who e-mailed you about moira. Somehow I guess my mom's name came up as the sender. I should have just posted it but oh well. glad i could help.

lexy Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:48 PM EST

and p.s...mr. X-man. you suck! now i have to restrain myself from looking for the script on the web. rarrh.

lexy Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:46 PM EST

Crap. Sorry for the double post. I thought the first one didnt go through =/

As for Angel's wings...I think they look pretty damn cool. I really like the way they look when he opens them..or whatever u wanna call it...spread them?I dunno. but they do look cool, lol.

Beast... I really don't think they're going to pull him of as the crazy monkey-fighter that he sometimes is. More like the book-smart guy with no real fighting scenes... i think he might have some sort of move at one point...but a whole fighting scene like nightcrawlers? i dont think so. =/

X-man Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:30 PM EST

WARNING THIS MAY BE A SPOILER !

Okay ladies and gentlemen. This movie is questionable, and very worrying. I'm worried because Ratner is a very action-packed person. And alot of the script has been confirmed and leaked onto the net, and I couldn't resist, so, I read it... And I have to say alot of the script is amazing thanks to all the action, but there is just to much "die-hard" in it. So many characters are killed off. And it's not even the new characters, it's the ones we have loved from the first two movies and comics. And because those characters are gone, there are two new leaders of the X-men with their own twists, and they become the focus of the movie.

And what's going to happen is, those two characters are going to be the most hated because the other favorites are replaced!

Good luck Ratner! I praise him on the fight scenes, but not the many deaths of the originals.

Luke Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 03:34 PM EST

Ohhhhhh SNAP Cody is right, his father did survive, which I thought they shouldnt have done, since the whole starjammer saga wasnt one of my favorites, and I don't remember much outta that as you can tell. So yeah, interesting topic....come on jerks, lets start rollin, I used to bring up a lot of crap but Lexy is right, i think we covered a lot from the freggin trailer...ehh I dunno

-How do you guys think the wings on Angel look? Pretty good/kinda ugly/goofy lookin/fake/what they would look like if a real person had wings like a bird?
-Do you guys think Beast will go all ape like he does in the comics, like crawling around and jumping like a monkey man would, or do you think Kelsey GRammar doesnt have it in him? Although thats what stunt guys are for. I hope his big scene is like Nightcrawlers in X2.

Luke

cody Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 03:24 PM EST

Hey luke on your comment about both of cyclops parents dying in a plane crash. If you remember his dad survives and starts the starjammers, the pirates in the Shi'ar galaxy

lexy Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:57 PM EST

lol i know!
its just no ones mentioning anything else. we've probably mentioned like every part of the trailer in this forum lmfao.

lexy Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:56 PM EST

lol i know! its just there isnt anything else to talk about until someone mentions something interesting.

Luke Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:35 AM EST

Actually I think Lexy might be right, or her friend I mean. Either way its a pretty good bet that might be her. All I can say now is to just wait until the movie comes out and we'll see. I think its crazy that this one girl who we have no idea who she is, is getting all this attention from us. We should be focusing on the brotherhood and x-men come on now....ehh whatever someone start a good topic please....

Luke

lexy Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 12:10 AM EST

*breaking news*.

someone just emailed me saying that the girl might possibly be Moira Mactaggart.

pretty damn good. i never would have thought of her.
thanks deborah

lexy Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:40 PM EST

ah... i think you're right luke...=/
i was hoping it would be someone cool though lol.

Kwill Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 02:14 PM EST


I am really hoping x-men three does not suck. From what I've seen of the previews it has potential. Even though I love Juggernaut and waited to see him ina movie they messed him up good. i mean he looks terrible. Juggernaut is supposed to be huge and they have him looking like a regular guy and his helmet looks stupid. And Why don't they have a real brotherhood? Where is Wanda and Pietro? They have all these obscure x-men, but they can't put in gambit or emma frost or havok or polaris. I hope the writing is better. The true personalities of the charaters were never fleshed out in the first two, with the exception of Wolverine prof X and Magneto. I just hope this movie does not suck.

Luke Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:31 PM EST

Wellllll Lex first off from seeing the funeral scene cyclops wasnt in the group, nor was professor X sitting there with them, so i think the funeral is either for one of those 2 suckers. And back to your question, I hope its not like Cyclops mother because his parents both died in the comics in a plane crash, but I think the lady with the weird hairdoo as you say is a doctor or a professor who works with Xavier. I doubt shes a mutant or someone from the mansion because she is just outta the blue with the X-Men and all....I dunno. Its a toughy but theres my guess. Shes just some lady who has some sort of relationship to whoever the funeral is for, nothing big nothing small...:)Sorry I cant help anymore

Luke

lexy Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 10:44 PM EST

lol luke thnks...i guess u dont know who that random chick is?? not even a guess? =S

Luke Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 05:52 PM EST

First off, Lexys da bomb and thats just something everyone else on this page has to deal with.

And yeah, thats all I gots to say about that....someone post up some interesting topics cmon now

Luke

ihateppl Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 02:51 AM EST

Hmmm...heard this great line that perfectly describes the majority of this discussion:

There is no point in arguing with idiots. They drag you to their level and beat you to death with their 'knowledge'.

lexy Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:04 PM EST

booya. im the bomb =D thanks, luke.

In the funeral scene,(in the trailer) they show a sideshot of rogue, bobby, kitty, collosus, beast, and some chick that has a funny hairdoo. Anyone know who that is? or is it maybe just a random person? For some reason I keep thinking Boom-boom, or meltdown, or whatever you want to call her, but i know she was blonde...anyone have a guess?

theunit27 Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:38 PM EST

all i have to say is this...wolverine and colossus in the movie again against juggernaught....SPEEDBALL SPECIAL!!!

Luke Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 04:59 PM EST

Ok Lexy, you are right, that sounds familiar, so my bad on that part...you da bomb. And this one goes for Slowreader....dude what is this? "while we get Longshot complaineing about his luck with the ladies while sparing with his friend and teammate Dazzler and thats it for them. We see a holografic image showing Logan and Colossus standing in uniform side by side conversing with the Proffeser and the holografic images of Shadowcat Multipule Man Jean and Cyclops about what there doing in some far away place in the world."....Where the heck was longshot and dazzler in the movies, PLUS a mission briefing that had shadowcat and MULTIPLE MAN who plays a freggin BAD GUY in X3? Yeah I remember the beast shot that was like 3 seconds, but not the longshot and mission briefing or whatever. Please get back to me and let me know about this or whatever you are trying to talk about....

-Luke

lukeb1515@hotmail.com

lexy Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:48 PM EST

This comment is directed to Luke...Sunfire is DEFINATELY asian! lol... his name in real-life or whatever you want to call it, it Shiro Yoshida....he's also related to wolverines ex fiancee Mariko, whatever her last name is. =D ive done my research lol

slowreader Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 02:59 AM EST

The best thing about the first two X-Films is that theres so much room to grow.

X-1
We got teachers pet, his hot girlfriend and Storm as the starters. Then we got a new team member with the hotts for redheads and a bunch of little underaged mutties.

X-2
We got to see the four grow, got a new team member and the little underaged mutties grew up.

What promise Bryan Singer gave us, the original members (film universe) get stronger and more powerful as the little mutties get feild work. As you see in the X-3 trailer, Storm saves someone in uiniform. At this point not only are the four playing hero to a world that hates and fears them, but there playing babysitter at the same time.

"But what about Nightcrwaler?!?!?!"

What a great way to keep the franchise FRESH. Swich out the characters every now and again. One film we get 2 minutes of Beast talking about phosphourios tella ku whatsis for a new whatever and thats it for Beast, while we get Longshot complaineing about his luck with the ladies while sparing with his friend and teammate Dazzler and thats it for them. We see a holografic image showing Logan and Colossus standing in uniform side by side conversing with the Proffeser and the holografic images of Shadowcat Multipule Man Jean and Cyclops about what there doing in some far away place in the world. But the point is the 'mission team' or the group of x-men that the film is mainly focoused on is Angel Iceman Nightcrwaler Gambit Rouge and one of the original. So in another movie we have more Beast and Wolvie' screen time and just a different grouping of teammates altogeather for the plot. The key here folks is to get the characters introduced and known but not pushed into the plot. To allow the x-men to exist outside the MAIN story.

Yes we all wanna see Gambit, yes we all wanna see Sinister and Omega Red, but for the sake of all who would like to see an amazing X-10 with a cool tittle attached, you need to chill. How many JASON movies have there been? Eleven. We can make it to X-10.

ok, JASON was a bad example. BOND then, ok? e-mail me.

Luke Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 08:54 PM EST

It would be a HUGE SHOCKER if they made X4 and X5. First off, this movie is making it out like its "The Last Stand" and this is it for the mutants (plus a few big deaths that will make it seem like a trilogy is all they are going for). I have seen that Vinnie Jones, the guy who plays Juggernaut, has signed for an X4 and X5. The reason they do this is because IF they decide to make more movies, they can relax and know his role it still in it. Just as they did for Ray Park(Toad) and Tyler Mane(Sabretooth), along with the lady deathstrike character all signed for the follow up movies just incase they didnt die or were brought back somehow. The companines do this so they can assure themselves actors will return. Another thing, if they made more X-Men movies, they probably wouldnt get old actors back unless it was small ones like Daniel Cudmore (Colossus) and anna paquin(rogue) because they arent top of the line actors and they are easy to re-sign, unlike ian mckellan, pat stewart, halle berry, and hugh jackman. All I'm trying to say is its really unlikely that they will make a X4, or X5 because actors wont return and this movie is being made out to be the end. So in dealing with Wolverines age, i dont think we need to worry about it....this is all just my opinion though...

Luke

Guust Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:29 PM EST

-Honestly I don't know how could be that asian guy. Sorry about the comment of Omega Red but I haven't see any other comment in my searches for information, so I thought I was giving some fresh news.
-But what do you think about the fact of age in Wolverine character?, do you think is king of silly my question?

Luke Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 05:58 PM EST

Yeah I think that one guy is Avalanche although sources said he, along with gambit, would not be in the movie so who knows. It just looks like him a lot. And the person behind Callisto I think is Scarlet Witch, because Psylocke is more pretty and wears a different outfit then the girl behind Callisto, but thats just my guess. Sources said she was in the movie, but it could also be Stacy X, who was confirmed to be in it as well. And as for sunfire..he wasn't really all that asian was he, he was more dark skinned and mexican it seemed like, plus he was always a good guy, but pyslocke was too and shes a bad guy in this so who knows....Someone get back at me

Luke

lexy Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 05:03 PM EST

OMG. BRAINSTORM OVER HERE. WHOS THE ONLY ASAIN GUY IN THE COMICS?! could that guy be Sunfire?!?!

lexy Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 05:01 PM EST

Oh..i think u might be right about that guy being avalanche....and one more question...behind callisto...is that psylocke? its so hard to tell.

Luke Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:28 AM EST

Yeah man, I think a lot of people have known Omega Red was in X3, along with his buddy Gauntlet. Where have you been my friend? Anyways rumor has it the asian dude behind Magneto is a new character, but no one will say who he is. No idea what his power is thought....? Oh, and also in the forest scene, the guy who is holding his knuckles kinda behind magneto, hes got dark hair and looks to have a trench coat on or something and is holding his hands together...who is he? Its a real quick look at the brotherhood crew behind magneto but hes there and I wanna say hes either Avalanche because he usually shows signs by holding his hands together like hes about to erupt. But it also looks like it could be Eric Dane who is playing Multiple Man in the movie. Get back at me and let me know what you think....

Luke

Guust Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:01 PM EST

-Huck Jackman has done a great job as Wolverine. But don't you think he will be a little older for his character by the time X5 will be released ?. Wolverine's mutation don't allow him get normally old.

-Did you know Omega Red will be in X3?, check out the full cast and crew of the movie in "www.imdb.com".

lexy Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:34 PM EST

hey in the forest scene...whos that asian dude behind magneto supposed to be?....not quicksilver right? cuz that would be mighty upsetting.

Josh Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 03:52 AM EST

Cool way to mark your spoilers, jackasses.

Ally Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 04:58 PM EST

Cyclops - the field leader, and one of the major x-men, is going to be killed by his future wife (if he had a future in the x-men movies) and actually is the first victim of the Phoenix who by chance woke up from the depths that very moment and then joined the brotherhood and also later discover that Xavier placed barriers on Jeans mind when she was a kid, about which magneto knew but did not mention till the phoenix came ?!!

They are actually going to kill cyclops, the field leader of the x-men, before the war, and then storm is going to lead them to battle, just days later !!!

That's IT! I am out of this mess.

By the way, seeing the quantity + power of the brotherhood (they can practically kill all the x-men without much problem) aren't exactly likely to attack them but are going to attack the human army (who may call sentinels, if they are there that is) and X-Men will come to the aid of the army to stop the brotherhood

This is all a big guess, just what I though after the trailer. Maybe none or some of the above happens, but I hope none of the above happens (except the attack on the army).

Anthony Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 04:33 PM EST

If they kill Cyclops in like the first 10 minutes in that stupid, stupid way of De-Moleculeizing him in .002 seconds I will walk out the theater. A 6 year old can write a better death for Cyclops then that one.
As if they didn't massacre his character enough in the fist 2 films.

applePaul Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:37 PM EST

so I'm sitting here watching X1 and X2, reading this board. These MOVIES are awesome. Just think of them as further evolutions of the primary impulse. The Singerverse and the Ratnerverse.

John Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:01 PM EST

Eventhough X3 looks to be good, I hope that X4 takes us in a new direction. I would love to see the end of Magneto as their main villian...and to replace him with Mr. Sinister!

Graham Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:19 AM EST

I will not judge X-Men 3 before I see it, but I will say this. I've been a huge fan of all X-Titles for most of my life now and I can say for a fact that if Cyclops dies in this film I will walk out and boycott it. Whether you like it or not, Cyclops is a key member and his character in the films has been altered and undermined in order to have Wolverine shine. I'm not saying Wolverine's a bad character, just that Cyke deserves a chance. Cyclops cannot die, it's just not right.

andre Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 12:18 AM EST

Bryan your a moron Brett Ratner did not only Direct Rush hour movies(which were good and action Packed by the way, and had better Action, then the x-men movies, which is kinda Pathetic of singer when a Comedy has better and More Exciting action in it than a comicbook/scifi film) But Brett ratner also Directed Red Dragon with Anthony hopkins, Which was Awesome! and Family man with Nicolas Cage which was also a Very good Movie, and Miles away from Rush hour films, Ratner is a cool fanboy Who can OUT Direct an AWESOME Action Scene over Singer TEN FOLD any day, singer is Pretty Lame at direction action at all, and ratner has Proved hes good at drama Nuff Said this Will Be the Xfilm the fans Have Been CRAVING!!

BlackFire Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 11:31 PM EST

From what I have been reading a good majority of people are placing the blame of all the things they didn't like in the X-movies on Bryon Singer and Brett Ratner. But What people need to understand is that there are a lot of different variables that these director need to take into account, first and formost being time. Comic books come out once a month with up to ten titles at a given time, The X-Men them selves have been around for fourty something years now, They have had more than enoughttime to develope great stories and even better characters. But movies cost a buttload more money,time and effort that a comic book. There is no way that any person could condense fourty years of stories and countless characters into 3 movies (and still do a justice to it). Second is the fact that some poeple don't even know what the hell an X-Man is, the movies have to change the stories and characters in a way to explain them to everyone not just hardcore fans. The X-movies and X-comics are two completely different interpretations of the same concept and idea. The X-movies are something that has to grow with each new installment, each movies sets the stage for new characters and new conflicts ... much like the comics.
Third is that fact that the comics and movies take two different looks at the X-men world. In the comics it's completely normal for aliens to land on the X-mansion's front lawn, or someone to magicly summon up demons. But the movies take on somewhat more realistic study of the X-men, thats what in my opinon makes them so good. So for all you guys who say that "Singer raped the first two movies" you just need to loosen up and accept the movies for the contrast they bring to the X-Men universe.

Bryan Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 11:09 PM EST

It will be interesting to see how the third x-men movie plays out...I'm not a fan of Rattner (most famous for Rush Hour); so I am guessing with alot of the original cast coming back it will be good, but I probably won't be going to opening night.

My question is this....when and if will we see characters from the X-Force show up...Deadpool and Cable...?

Kevin Ickes Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:34 PM EST

You know, I still find it hard to believe that Gambit hasn't been incorperated into any of the movies yet. He is one of the all-time fan favorites and not only would his role make the movies a whole lot better (not saying they're not good because I love them) but it would also generate a lot more popularity and money in the box office. Gambit is by far my favorite X-Man and he deserves to be a part of one of the movies. I guess I can only hope that if there is going to be an X4,which as far as I can see there will be, that the writers will be smart enough and appreciative enough to add him to the mix.

luke Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 05:00 PM EST

3 X-men will lose their powers because of the "cure" in X3, and another 2 mutants will die from it...

Boo-yah bitches

Takineko Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 07:14 AM EST

Yes Im one of those who wishes Gambit and Nightcrawler would be in X3, However I suppose that's not going to happen. There are thousands of great stories spanning across the X-Men universe. My questions is will there be an X4?
Seems like a silly question. These things usually come in trillogies. I don't know how I feel about a Wolverine spin off movie. I'd watch it and love it of course, but he already is such a dominant character in the movies while so many others are on the back burner. Maybe some of us fans will never be satisfied until there is an X-Men TV series made just as well as any movie.

Now THAT, would be worth watching!

GeneralHubris Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 10:33 PM EST

"Where the hell is Nightcrawler and Gambit?!

Those are my two favorite X-Men ever. I think it is complete bullsh** that neither one will be in it. Especially after Alan Cummings' Excellent performance in the second one. Brett Ratner can F*** OFF for that!"

Don't go blaming Ratner. Ol' A.C. said that the make up took too long and was too uncomfortable, so he refused to play Nightcrawler again.

Funny how Mystique's make-up took much longer to put on and covered her entire body, and yet Rebecca Romigh-Stamos has returned twice.

Valerie Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 08:33 PM EST

boy, im impreesed with the amount of ppl here who wrote a comment.

Mama Mia Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:14 PM EST

Okay. By the way, "x-men fanatic", before you gotta speak your mind, maybe you should get your facts straight before you go accusing and assuming. Cyclops didn't get much screen time because (seems to me, you should know this, as you know everything else) he went with Singer to work on Superman. Called, while your doing something, well, you can't be doing something else simutaneously. That said, oviously, he decided to devote more of his time to Superman. Sooo, therefore (I feel like I'm speaking to an idiot. But I must continue) not much time is left to work on another project.

Then you're all "The REAL ROGUE can fly and has super strength". Unless you missed that part, as I understand, it was because she sucked it all out of Carol Danvers. Seeing that that hasn't happened in the movies yet- of course she doesn't have those abilities!
It is very strange they minimized her into a young, timid character, and I'm not sure we will ever figure out why.
Also, it's called budget, so it can't be like "maybe it is a lot". As in. A budget. Like, they can't just throw around mula.

And Wolverine? Well, to answer that, the majority favoured him in the comics. So, maybe he's the main character because he typically is the most popular. (Not to mention ridiculously good looking ~:P). That would be my theory.

And yeah. No one appreciates spoilers when they aren't asked for.

BUUT, I am so. So. SO excited about this film. I will refrain from OMGSHing everywhere, but know that it is taking much effort. I am enthused to say, I will be one of the "ballistic fans" during the midnight screening.

christie Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 05:17 PM EST

proffesor X lost his leg to Lucifer. Then he was able to walk again somehow, but got crippled again. you're probably thinking of the second time he got crippled or whatever.

Chris Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 04:11 PM EST

Actually, the explanation that I remember is that Charles lost use of his legs in the Savage Land, after breaking away from Magneto. He, and the mutants that decided to follow him, were leaving through the jungle, and Magneto somehow caused him to fall upon a large punji spike, going through his lower torso, which severed the nerve connections.

DMP Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 02:35 PM EST

Nicholas Halflinger... I am to say that you are wrong... I cant remember what issue it was, but the explanation was... That there is and has never been anything wrong with the charles x... it is because of his mental state, his power is blocking the nerve so that he can move his legs... i think it has only been some times he has walked in the comics(otherwise only when we visit him in his head)... i told that i would explain why i put this ? out... And it is not only for you, but for every one... I got this piece of info when i read one of the comics when i was a kid, i heard in a interview with ratner, that he talked about that. I dont know if it has something to do with the movie. But it shows that we got a director here that knows his comics, and that again makes me feel confident that this will be a great movie. And to all you fans out there. You complain that singer raped the two first movies, and you already accuse ratner of doing it to the new movie. You fans out there will get the comic movie adaption of the best possible kind. And look on the bright side, it will look fantastic too.

gocmat Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 12:10 PM EST

I’ve been collecting comics for about 15 years now, ever since I was a little kid. I’ve waited for this moment all of my life that is seeing phoenix on the big screen. I know it isn’t going to be what I want and that it is going to be the way that I’ve always pictured it in my head or what I’ve read in the comics, but they only have about 2 hours to tell a story (not months and sometimes years as they do in the books). I think just bringing these characters to life has been a great experience (even if they sometimes seem two dimensional).

EBastard Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:55 PM EST

If anything you said about Cyclops in X-Men 3 is true, you deserve every square inch of your ass kicked for spoiling that and I hope it happens to you soon. Dickhead.


x-men fanatic Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:22 PM EST

i really gotta speak my mind.. x-men 1 & 2 compared to this next movie.. SUCKED!! i liked a few things about brian singer.. but i hated more than i liked. You cannot cast a director to a well-known comic/cartoon and expect him to do wonders to the movie.. the movies sucked! He left out so much and attempted to change so much. Hell, he didn't want to put Storm in the movie. X3 actually brings the characters alive from the comic, why? Because

Ratner has read the comic before. He's familiar with how it goes and knows who belongs in the movie. I'm still unsure about why Cyclops dies (it's 100% true he dies and that's his funeral in the trailer, it's not Professor X for you people who think it is) i am also unsure of why Rogue continues to be this girl who looks twelve.

She is basically useless. The REAL ROGUE can fly and has super strength. And maybe that does cost money but all it's doing is taking screen time and backstory from another character! Cyclops really did deserve more time on screen and James probably should have spoke up about it like Halle did and she got more backstory on her character in the upcoming movie because her character is important to the franchise and she shouldn't be shun out, besides she is not the type to be in movies just to be seen. She has to have a role also. But you really can't get a better storm than Halle.

MY FINAL COMPLAINT IS THIS.. WHY HAS WOLVERINE BEEN THE FOCUS OF EVERY EFFIN X-MEN MOVIE!! IT IS NOT CALLED WOLVERINE and everyone else! IT'S CALLED X-MEN DAMMIT! HE IS NOT THE LEADER!

Karrie Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 06:18 PM EST

Okay... I know cyclops is one of the major x-men characters in the comics and the shows...but to me he's ALWAYS come out as a freaking pussy. I don't think its just the way the first two movies were made. And even if they do kill him off, they'll pull a *hollywood moment* and bring him back a movie later....*cough Jean cough... even though Dark Phoenix is a great part of the X-men, I think they could have gone with quite a few different plotlines. And there better be a big freaking Psylocke part in the movie or god help ratner.

marrissa Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 05:54 PM EST

2 words regarding Brett Ratner: Santa's Slay


rent it - watch the xtras - and weep

neville Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:52 PM EST

give Ratner a chance. Singer's watered down version of the xmen did a dis-service to true x fans. so far based on what i have seen Ratner have tried to capture the true essence of the x characters. storm and cyclops are mega powers but have suffered emmencely at the hands of singer. wolverine, a major badass, is another casulty of singer's undersatnding of these characters. any director who can birng storm,cyclops, wolverine, phoenix to life and do a fast ball special is sure to have a hit on his hands.

Alfalpha_Flight Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:12 PM EST

As a long ago comic book collector and cartoon freak, I remember the unbelievable thrill to hear they were making a Masters of the Universe movie. All of my friends were excited and started talking about everything in them movie and what it was going to look like. When it came out...it sucked. Even at nine years old I knew what crap on a screen looked like and this was it. Now I can look back and appreciate it for all of its horribleness.

I collected X-Men from just before the Brood Wars until well in to the multiple Marvel universes of 5 different X-Men titles. I was also an Alpha Flight fanatic mostly because the Wolverine ties. I'm not trying to flex my geek cred because I'm not the quintessential fanboy, but I've been around and I have much love for all things comic and cartoon.

You'll realize that pleasing you is only one tiny part of making a movie series like X-Men. CGI cannot make a bad script and bad characters good. It might make cool fight scenes, but go see Matrix Revolutions and Reloaded and tell me the unimaginable explosions and fights made them better than the first Matrix. They did not.

Chris Claremont, Stan Lee, and others have been very, very intimately involved in these projects from start to finish. I know you fanboys and girls wouldn't want to defame the cornerstones of Marvel, so you make Brett Ratner and Bryan Singer in to the scapegoats. I've actually worked on movie sets and I will tell you that the director is only one piece of a very, very large machine. To solely blame the director for what you perceive as slights to your collective dork conscience is just naive. X-Men has been very successful because of the changes it made to the original, not in spite of them.

Let Marvel do what it do. Keep reading your comics and appreciate that the "normal folk" even know what a mutant is.

DM Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:05 PM EST

As a long ago comic book collector and cartoon freak, I remember the unbelievable thrill to hear they were making a Masters of the Universe movie. All of my friends were excited and started talking about everything in them movie and what it was going to look like. When it came out...it sucked. Even at nine years old I knew what crap on a screen looked like and this was it. Now I can look back and appreciate it for all of its horribleness.

I collected X-Men from just before the Brood Wars until well in to the multiple Marvel universes of 5 different X-Men titles. I was also an Alpha Flight fanatic mostly because the Wolverine ties. I'm not trying to flex my geek cred because I'm not the quintessential fanboy, but I've been around and I have much love for all things comic and cartoon.

You'll realize that pleasing you is only one tiny part of making a movie series like X-Men. CGI cannot make a bad script and bad characters good. It might make cool fight scenes, but go see Matrix Revolutions and Reloaded and tell me the unimaginable explosions and fights made them better than the first Matrix. They did not.

Chris Claremont, Stan Lee, and others have been very, very intimately involved in these projects from start to finish. I know you fanboys and girls wouldn't want to defame the cornerstones of Marvel, so you make Brett Ratner and Bryan Singer in to the scapegoats. I've actually worked on movie sets and I will tell you that the director is only one piece of a very, very large machine. To solely blame the director for what you perceive as slights to your collective dork conscience is just naive. X-Men has been very successful because of the changes it made to the original, not in spite of them.

Let Marvel do what it do. Keep reading your comics and appreciate that the "normal folk" even know what a mutant is.

Baumerjet Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 12:36 PM EST

I think it's great that they spin off Wolverine. Maybe they may make the 4-Part Mini series that Frank Miller wrote about Logan's journey to Japan as the basis?

As for Cyclops. Scott was once considered DEAD in the comics when he & Lee Foresters wound up trapped on an island in the middle of the Bermuda Triangle...

So even if Scott is believed dead - He can always come back...

luke Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 11:36 AM EST

First off, Bill Duke was THE MAN in Predator and I don't care if he got shot in the head hiding under a log or whatever, he had it coming to him if he thought he could take on the predator by himself. But ok, thanks for letting me know who he plays, maybe there will be Senitals in this one, it might be one of those suprises the studio won't let people find out until May, or maybe even the bigger full version trailer to show them.

And about Nightcrawler and Gambit not being in the third one, we all must have gone over this sooooo much already. Gambit doesn't have a big role to the plot and story to X3, let alone the first 2, and besides he was a late joiner to the group. As for Nightcrawler, it sucks hes not in X3, but since they got Beast now, having 2 blue characters running around might not work, plus it would take ALOT of time and money to make them both come to life. Nightcrawler was with the X-Men don't get me wrong, but he was also always an outsider, so he prolly is gonna go off and look for his past and all that crap. He is one character they can easily get rid of and give him a good excuse for not being in X3.

Oh yeah, and if Cyclops dies in X3, I too will be F'INNNNNN PISSSSSEEEDDD. He may be a pussy in the movies, but hes the most classic X-Man. I know I stated all this before a few comments below and got a lot of other people on the topic, but he can't die(although it looks that way) and if he does, they best bring him back to life....somehow....somewhere....someday

Luke

X-Men Fan Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:41 AM EST

I also forgot to say, if they kill off Cyclops or any other X-Man I too will be super F'n pissed. Unless I t is Jean and they bring her back as Pheonix.

X-Men Fan Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:36 AM EST

I have no idea how this X-Men movie will turn out. But I will say it looks AWESOME!!!!!!!! Like alot of people, I originally thought Brett Ratner was A horrible choice, but now after seeing the teaser, I have hope. I am A huge fan of X-Men and Marvel comics. I loved the first two X-Men movies and am highly anticipating the third one. When it makes millions of dollars at the box office opening week, you better believe my $6.50 will be part of it.

I do have a couple of questions if anyone knows. Is the guy playing Colossusin this one the same guy that was in the second one? Where the hell is Nightcrawler and Gambit?!

Those are my two favorite X-Men ever. I think it is complete bullsh** that neither one will be in it. Especially after Alan Cummings' Excellent performance in the second one. Brett Ratner can F*** OFF for that!

Other than that I really think this is going to be another great X-Men movie.

Lastly, I really like the Beast make-up. I wasn't sure about Kelsey Grammar when I first heard but I now think he will be great.

wu-tang Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:21 AM EST

I see they're going to make a Wolverine spin-off. What's the point? The fist two X-Mens are basically Wolverine's movies anyway.

BTY,if they kill off Cyclops in X3 I'm going to be super F'n pissed.

Perion Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:28 AM EST

good to see Bill Duke as a primary character in a new movie tho, he was quite good in Predator

Perion Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:27 AM EST

Bill Duke plays Bolivar Trask, or as IMDB says "Bolvier Trask" who personaly I would have got Gary Oldman to play him, looks the part and I can just imagine him making hordes of Sentinels ^_^

Jay Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:26 AM EST

I am anxiously waiting to see how the third movie comes about. I loved the first two. I'd have to personally say that Magneto is a big favorite of mine in the movies. In the comics and TV cartoon it was between The Beast and Wolverine. So, now they are bringing in The Beast... we will see if he's as good in the movie. I do believe that Kelsey Grammer was a good pick, due to the face muscle structure, let alone voice for the part. I'm also counting on Brett Ratner to continue the excitement in the movie from the first two. Bryan Singer did a wonderful job, lets hope Ratner can do the same or better. I'm not usually a big fan of different directors for sequels of a great first movie. But sometimes it's a good thing. But only time will tell.

Sometimes the problem with different directors with a sequel is that they try to add in more/all characters to a familiar show, comic book, book, etc. And think that it's better and more action then story is going to raise the bar. But that's not always true. So, we will see. Whether someone who sees the movie before me says it sucks... no matter what I will go see the movie.

luke Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:21 PM EST

Keith is right...Cyclops has not gotten the respect and credit he deserves in the first two movies. He is the original X-man and if he dies in X3(which rumors have said and the X3 trailer shows a funeral session,along with his glasses being floated to Wolverine) I'll be extremely pissed. So yeah, Cyke hasnt done much in the movies, but thats because he's not getting any credit or valuable time to make his character work. I like Singer and all, but he messed up big time with a huge character like Cyclops. Everyone has their opinion, I just think seeing Cyclops die in X3 will be a huge mistake...

Keith Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:07 PM EST

XMen 3 will not be worth watching. The films have been entertaining, but as a long time collector(over 25 years) the films have been seriously lacking. Reducing the first x-man and leader to less than nothing was the first and biggest step towards lack of credibility. Taking Cyclops out God Loves, Man Kills on which X2 was based and now the biggest story of them all, Pheonix/DarkPheonix have now seriously taken the movies far from their source and are now not worth the price of admission. Worse yet, is that the books changed this character after the films and now portray him as the incompetent weakling the films have turned him into. We will never see the Chris Clairmont classic Cyclops as it is clear he will be killed off.
X-Men is no longer X-Men without the leader. I will wait to hear from movie goers about what happens to him and will then determine whether or not to see the film. I am a true fan of X-Men not Wolverine and the rest. Hopefully, the many Cyclops fans will not support this any longer at the box office.

josef Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 05:55 PM EST

kitka... first of all.. these are opinions man.. don't go for "idiot". So childhish man. Secondly, Ratner may do good or may kill the movie franchise, but remember that we wouldn't be here commenting about the release of the third movie if it were not for Singer's ability to do two great xmen movies. Respect.

christie Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 05:08 PM EST

I personally loved both X1 and X2! I think that both the characters and the plots were great, excluding the fact that neither Rogue, Storm, or Jean could fly...or anyone else for that matter.(Magneto sort of levitated on that iron plate when he broke out of the plastic prison or whatever, but that does'nt really count.)They were awesome movies nonetheless. Some people here are complaining about the fact that some of the characters were missing or not good enough, but look at it this way...they're introducing new characters along the storyline...I would never have expected Callisto to be in the new movie, and I love Lady Deathstrike but didnt know she would be in X2. They can't please everyone now can they? Even though I'm only 15, i own quite a few of the comic books from the 70's-90's...my uncle collected them, and I liked the characters even just from seeing the cartoon....so i inherited them. Thats just a bit of information so you people dont think I've "never picked up a comic book in my life."I think this movie will be just as great, possibly greater than the past two movies and I'm looking forward to May 26th.

luke Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:12 PM EST

Oh and another thing, everyone who comments on this damn thing should thank the man of this interview, Hugh Jackman. Thank him for being in X3 cause without him they wouldn't have even made the movie. It's been said and written in interviews before. He was and is the face of this movie franchise and if he didn't come back, FOX couldn't and wouldn't have got a replacement for the biggest film of the three...

Luke

luke Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 03:55 PM EST

Who does Bill Duke, the black guy from Predator, play in the movie? I haven't seen anything on him. Someone get back to me

Luke

Colossus Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:13 PM EST

Well being a comic book fan, especially X-Men I can say that if you truly wanted to bring a comic book to the big screen then you would need a comic book writer such as Claremont and an artist such as Jim Lee to map out the story because people like that are who bring comics to life every month. As far as the X-Men go we have over 40 years of storylines to work with, do you start at the begining? Would the lineup of Beast, Cyclops, Iceman, Angel and Marvel girl vs Magneto stand up in today's movie going crowds?

Most of the people know today's X-Men, them being more the younger generation. Those of us die hards who know every story from the begining know that they cannot find people to exactly play these characters so they have to find the closest equivilent, as long as they stay true to the character. No I don't believe Halle Berry was the right choice for Storm but it is done so we move on. Yes I agree the timeline of the history was manipulated but in the end I think we have to treat it as another X-Universe with similar ties to the original but different, such as the Ultimate Universe. I know they don't always get it right and they go right out into left field with characters ie. the original Batman Series although it did have some merits it wasn't quite there, which they seem to have rectified with the new series but that is a topic for another time.

As for X3, I was anticipating the Dark Phoenix Saga with the way X2 ended, hoping to see the Hellfire Club and the Sentinals, just to change the bad guy lineup a little. I am not sure what to make of the switch around of good guys to bad but I am sure it will be revealed in the movie. So I shall wait and see what happens and hope for the best.

kitka Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:15 AM EST

wow Josef you really are an idiot! the People who made the x-men who they are today ARE THE COMIC FANS! Not idiots that dont know anything about it! those morons just jump along for the ride! BRETT RATNER= AWESOME COMIC FANBOY THAT WILL MAKE X3 GREAT! SINGER= EGOMANIAC, DULL VISIONLESS HACK MORON, WHO MADE TWO LESS THEN STELLAR WEAKASS MEDIOCRE X-MEN MOVIES, THAT DId GREAT CAUSE THEY HAD THE NAME X-MEN ON THEM

Nicholas Halflinger Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:03 AM EST

To DMP re: your challenge, Charles' legs were crushed as a younger man when he stopped the alien Lucifer's plans for invading Earth. So there.

We'll ignore how many times since then he's been "cured" and re-crippled.

And the scene from Scott & Jean's wedding when she 'dances' with him can still bring me to tears.

Bren Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:06 AM EST


This movie looks incredible, and I've only seen the teaser! So much action, and so many mutants. It's going to be an all out war. I even read somewhere that Jean Grey is going to be giving out blumpkins the entire film!!!

josef Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 07:56 AM EST

Everybody needs to realise something. The majority of the Xmen movie fans have never read one comic book and have never seen an episode from the cartoon series. Same with spiderman, superman, Hellboy, constantine etc. Movie fans would love to see another x-men movie and not some action-packed brainless dramaless colorful movie with a plethora of characters just to make some thousands of x-men comic fans happy. I fear that x-men movie fans will be disapointed, critics will bash the film and even YOU will cry in your popcorn bucket. I hope it does well though as i wouldn't love Xmen 4ever in the hands of Dr. Uwe Boll. Pray.

hugh jass Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:42 AM EST

i heard that XMen-1V is already is preproduction but they dont want to jinx themselves and lose on this franchise so they want to write it and set it up for a sure fire hit...its going to be called "XMen 4,the battle for Brokeback Mountain"!!

lol

ilmarins Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:26 AM EST

Bret Rattner, Bryan Singer - fuck that - they should have given the movie to Michael Bay - now That would have been a movie with more action than all the previous marvel screen movies!!! ;))) No but seriously the first two x-men movies were great. without a doubt the best of marvel NOW loooong list of movies. Singer did screw some stuff up, but if you trully wanted for him to do everything and explain every origin and explore every single mutants personality well that would have been a movie that would be about 15 hours long. Now i'm not sarcastic, but i'm pretty sure that even the most hardcore fan couldn't sit in the cinema without taking a piss break or a luch break so while you would be doing these things you'd miss a part of the movie and would have no idea what happened during these minutes and couldn't take part in this discussien until you bought the 5piece DVD box set!!! sO fuck offf, shut the hell up and wait for the next x3 movie cause it is going to be just as great if not even better and untill we see what ratner did with it we can't call him a dickhead or anything else. you can't predict an outcome you have to see it

Ricky Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:55 AM EST

I think every one of you who can't spell and have the sentence construction skills of a 2nd grader shouldn't be allowed to express opinions about other people's work. Go on, call me an a-hole for saying that. I'll agree with you.

lizard Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 11:50 PM EST

does anybody know if the sentinals will be in this movie because trask the creator of them is in the movie

luke Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 11:35 PM EST

Wolverine
Beast
Angel
Kitty Pryde
Colossus
Iceman
Rogue
Cyclops?
Professor X
VS.
Magneto
Mystique
Juggernaut
Multiple Man
Omega Red
Callisto
Pyro
Scarlet Witch
Gauntlet
Psylocke
The Phoenix?
And a whole bunch more mutants who break out of prison...

Now who do you think would win this battle??

luke Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 09:46 PM EST

Yeah snowman I hear ya, making Psylocke a bad guy is kinda weird, considering she was awesome with the team and in the movie would give them more characters to introduce. Another person playing a villian in the 3rd movie is Multiple Man played by Eric Dane I think. I thought he was always a good guy in the comics? I know the movies tend to change around a lot of things but that kinda threw me off when I read that him AND Psylocke were both bad guys, along with Callisto who wasnt even classified with either team, since she was part of that Morlock gang or whatever. Oh well we'll see, I just want to see what Omega Red will look like....and yes hes in the movie.

Luke

Snowman Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 07:58 PM EST

The only major problem I have is that Psylocke is with Magneto. That totally bites.

sarahCarter Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:59 PM EST

what do u mean Bashing archangel? alot of people are siding with him, as do i! the First two X-men movies WERe CRAP! im a comics fan i know, and singer was a HORRIBLE director Choice for the Film, im Gladf that ahole is gone! Brett will do a great Job more Faithful to the Comics!

pepper potts Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:54 PM EST

the fact that SINGER ISN'T directing is why this movie Will Be great, Hes a Dull Moronic, weak Slowed paced, Torturously Monotonus, uncreative Director, thats too much into his Own Vision, which is Extremley INFERIOR, to the comics,tahts pathetic when you can say every x-men fox kids cartoon and every Xmen evolution Cartoon, is Better than Both Movies, Because the cartoons are far superior to the films! and ratner knows action Drama COLOR and Imagination! Something Singer Sorely LACKS!

luke Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:51 PM EST

Well it looks like everyone is bashing archangel, so maybe that guy should think about what he wants to type in first next time. But anyways, yeah there shouldnt be all this fighting over what characters were in it and what ones werent, along with how ratner will do and that the trailer for X3 sucks and that means the movie will.

People just need to have patience and wait for May 26, 2006 to roll around and then we can all jump for joy like little school boys. Also, the reason Singer didn't put the original 5 X-men in the first one since they were the first ones from the comics is because of MONEY ISSUES! MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! Fox wasnt sure how good this movie would do and bringing Beast, Angel, and Iceman to life would have been A LOT of movie. You'd have to do Beasts whole look, real and some digital, Angel flying around and getting all those stunts, and even though Iceman was in the first one, making him into the human iceblock like we all want to see would have been way too much for the studio to produce. And if you think that making an X-Men movie without Wolverine in it is okay, you are NUTS! I like him and all, but he seriously is the face of the X-Men franchise, along with Storm.

You cannot hold those 2 HUGE characters out until a sequel, and Singer knew that. I know what your thing too, well why not have all 7 of those characters be in it then. That would be bringing up too many characters in one movie and not giving them the backstory/screen time they really deserve, which Storm and Cyclops have still yet to get to this day. All I'm saying is Money is always a huge issue in these types of movies and the X-Men is soooo different fronm other Marvel movies because it has Triple the amount of characters and cast to play them, making sure they sign on for atleast a trilogy.

Give this movie a break alright, I think it will go over well and I think Singer did a fine job as well as Ratner will do. Love the X-Men for the reason you want to love them, don't judge it just by whos in it and what clown is directing it. It's for the love of the comics people...

Luke

WolvieKool Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:47 PM EST

Jeffrey Mb Hibbard youre a complete moron, not to mention a total Jackass tool that in Denial, if you think Ratner is staying true to SINGER U STUPID IDIOT! singer didnt even stay true to the source material, the MAN is a WALKING MORON! Ratners x3 looks NOTHING LIKE A SINGER, YOU POOR DELUDEd JACKASS! THIS MOVIE ACTUALLy LOOKS GREAT!

plkrtn Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:40 PM EST

Give Ratner a chance. Red Dragon was a far better film than Hannibal, and look who directed that!
I would like to see X3 take more of a comic book swerve. I want to see Wolverine throw a full Beserker attack! It looks like Ratner is going to take us there.
Singer isn't making a film to fit between Superman 2 and 3. He's making a sequel to Superman 2 which will go in its own direction and forget the abominable Superman 3 and 4.
Making a comic book adaption perfectly would be a terrible idea, it wouldn't be profitable, you have to make compromises sadly.
Hulk wasn't a terrible film. The story was pretty poor, his father... What hokum... However, the main film characters were well rounded, and explored well and the comic book direction as Hulk jumped between the panels of a comic, the visuals in general, and the action scenes showed us what could've been, if only for a better story. Oh and Hulk's face was way too cutesy too.

DMP Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:31 PM EST

Archangel... If you have seen the clip to the movie, you should nod to that the storyline is indeed stronger then the first two... If you are an x-fan you would know that jeans/ phoenix appearance is related to the beginning of the war... And the war is in fact what you see in the clip... And the scene where you see magneto in the woods with the mutants, that is from the comicbook. It is one of the last things before they attack and start the war... If you read, you would know that... this univers is deep. But still in reach for you

DMP Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:22 PM EST

Is there anyone of you out there who knows why professor x cant walk... i do, but i just want to hear if there was anyone else... explanation will follow...

David Mon, Jan 9, 2006 at 05:21 PM EST

Speaking of introducing characters what about Rogue?she is supposed to have super strengh and flight powers she absorbed from Mrs Marvel.I agree that making the transitions to film takes compromise but thats who she is one of the powerhouses of the team.I did like the the first two movies even though I thought some of the pieces were missing all we can do is wait and see .Maybe some day this ge