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Jan 29
2009
02:52 PM ET
'Lost': Doc Jensen's 'Jughead' take
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As a U2 fan, thanks for the link between their album and the episode.
I loved that Des and Penny named their boy Charlie, after our beloved hero, but Charles is also the name of Penny’s father. I wonder if that’s significant or if I’m just over-thinking it?
Just thought I’d share since it seems that Adam Vary didn’t mention this in this recap because he probably didn’t notice that we actually do know where Desmond and Penny were at the Beginning of the episode. During the opening, Desmond was looking for a man named Salonga while running around an Asian fishing village. The island he and Penny were on was actually somewhere in the Philippines. First, Salonga is a somewhat common Filipino last name. Second, when Desmond was running around, there was a quick shot that included a flag of the Philippines and the Tagalog word “Mabuhay” which means to live or to thrive.
I was having the same Jack = Faraday thoughts while I was watching last night’s episode. If Faraday is messing up the timeline post island time travel, then was Jack messing up the timeline pre island time travel? Remember, the Jack character was suppossed to die in the very first episode (according to producers), and it was Jack’s actions that allowed the freighter folks to arrive on the island and thus lead to the events that resulted in island time travel.
nice one “Trazey” Am I right in assuming that when Richard goes to visit the 10 year old John Locke and places the objects before him to choose, that compass is the one he should have picked? And that’s why Richard was a bit ticked off at him when he was little?
1.C. Whitmore & Mrs Hawkings, aka Ellie the girl w/ gun, had to leave island when she got pregnant w/ D. Farraday so she wouldnt die & then couldnt get back.
2.Girl in bed = D. Farraday’s sister because she was being used as a guinea pig to send through time in his experiments and only family would trust him like that.
3.Girl in bed = D. Farraday’s sister, which is why she looked so much like his mom aka Ellie the girl with gun
4.Mrs. Hawkings first name is Elios = Ellie = Rat from experiment
Loved the commercial that aired during the show with Walt in it!
Theory: The others do bury the a-bomb, which causes radiation problems on the island, which is why women can’t have successful pregnancies any more. Obviously, at one point you could get pregnant and have babies (Dr. Candle’s baby), but now you can’t.
I just about died when Richard scolded Widmore on the island…LOVE IT! And, I did think that the girl with the gun was Faraday’s mom. I liked the break from Jack/Kate/etc…Love Desmond and Penny. Very interesting that the reader pointed out Charlie is named after grandfather and our beloved Charlie. Am still confused though about Richard..was he faking that he didn’t know about time travel. When he eventually approaches young Ben in the woods, he seems to have long hair and clothes on from years prior to the 1950′s…remember? Tying him more with the shipwreck..
WOW @ WESLEY – YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND!
Okay, I’m willing to accept that Faraday may be altering the timeline because he’s too arrogant to believe that his claim that you cannot change the past might be wrong, but Daniel=Jack? Unlikely and, worse, boring. I’d rather let him be a character in his own right (although that may be because I find Jack pretty tedious in the first place). And lying about loving Charlotte in order to be her constant, given Sun’s observation last season, makes his and charlotte’s story so convoluted I would just tune out if it turned out to be true. I doubt it will be. Surely it’s enough that the woman he loves is dying and, despite his best efforts, he seems powerless to help? From this episode I’m mostly just curious about the significance of the H-Bomb, and how Faraday’s advice to bury it may affect the play-out in the rest of the season. Not impossible that it was buried under the hatch, but that doesn’t explain what the failsafe that Desmond activated was all about.
a little disappointed in doc not learning that ms hawking’s name was revealed in the enhanced episode to be eloise. if ellie isn’t an obvious short for eloise…well, i think it is. it’s a connection that the doc normally would catch onto instead of a new name…eleanor…? i don’t think widmore is daniel’s father. widmore has a definite connection to daniel’s mother because he has her contact info but i don’t think they were together once. lost has already done the brother-sister thing with jack & claire. i wouldn’t think they’d do it again
Baby Charlie is definitely the same Charlie. The whole “Desmond-life-saving-connection” now makes sense. It’s his son.
When Richard visited young Locke and asked him to choose the object that was his–of course Locke picked the knife because the compass was never really “his”. Richard only gave Locke the compass to give back to him as proof he knows him in the future. Locke wouldn’t associate it as belonging to him, unlike the knife that he has used on numerous occasions and has had with him for several days now. It makes perfect sense now why young Locke picked it and why Richard was so mad. I just love this show!
I thought Charlie was named after his grandpa. I thought it was kind of weird but I didn’t even think of Charlie Pace until I read it here. Also this episode rocked because there was much more on the island than off. The Oceanic 6 get a little boring.
To Luisa: I have DVR and that did look like a polar bear in Widmore’s painting when I freeze-framed it.