May 14 2008 11:15 PM ET

'Point Break 2' and other unnecessary sequels and remakes

Pointbreak_lIs today Superfluous Day? From the Dept. of Sequels and Remakes No One Asked For, we have trade reports today of follow-ups to Point Break (presumably, sans Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze, pictured) and Fahrenheit 9/11 (this time, Michael Moore will offer a subtle, nuanced critique of the Bush presidency… heh, just kidding), as well as a remake of Bad Lieutenant that will star Nicolas Cage in the Harvey Keitel role. No word on whether Cage will duplicate Harvey Keitel’s notorious full-frontal scene in that movie, but all three of these projects sound like displays of things no one wanted to see. Still, in honor of another Keanu movie, let’s play devil’s advocate for a moment and ask: is there any way these films might actually be good? Any way they might actually explore areas that were sadly neglected in the original films? (And what might those areas have been?)

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  • Stephanie T.

    Nope. You pretty much said it all. It’s like what happened to Speed and Open Water in that the stories were pretty much finished, and there wasn’t a need for a sequel.

  • elise

    Nic, man, what the hell are you doing?

  • cimagato

    Fahrenheit 9/11 was a much better book than movie. Hollywood tries, but never seems to “get” Ray Bradbury, so I don’t have a lot of hope for a new version. And Point Break was a nice excuse to show off Reeves’ and Swayze’s younger selves. I barely remember the plot, only that the ending was stupidly disappointing, but, hey, if they want to throw away millions on that, then go ahead.

  • Heather

    No one asked for the Fantasic Four sequel. It was even worse than the first. If you root for the death of Jessica Alba, that’s a bad thing.

  • Bob

    yeah Fahrenheit 9/11 was awful. After seeing the movie, I checked out the book. NOTHING about Bush. At all.
    but Point Break was pretty awesome.

  • Rob Grizzly

    I’m sure there will be alot of buzz and excitement once everyone starts to see the trailers. You all complain about unecessary sequels, (National Treasure 2, Ocean’s 13, Resident Evil 3, Step Up: The streets) But then you rush to make them number 1 at the box office, basically handing over permission to make yet another one.

  • To cimagato

    PLEASE tell us you’re kidding about Fahrenheit 9/11. The Bradbury book is Fahrenheit 451, no relation to the Michael Moore movie about September 11.

  • Nix

    Please let cimagato and Bob be kidding. Please.
    OTOH, there’s always room for surf movies. at least within surf subculture.

  • Matthew Lingo

    Well, Herzog is directing the Bad Lieutenant sequel, so it actually has a decent chance of being worthwhile.

  • Matthew Lingo

    Well, Herzog is directing the Bad Lieutenant remake, so it actually has a decent chance of being worthwhile.

  • Sina

    Roadhouse 2. People thought we would really buy Christine Applegate’s ex as Dalton son?
    The Women. I know the movie hasn’t come out yet but I still think that remake will suck. I’m just basing that on the casting of Meg Ryan’s lips in that movie
    Superman. Sorry but the Superman movie SUCKED! Don’t mess with a good thing. People should have learned that from Superman 4.
    Notorious. Mission Impossible 2 was a sad remake of a great classic. Tom is no Carey Grant.
    A Kiss before Dying. Horrible remake. Sean Young is no Joanne Woodward and Matt Dillon was no Robert Wagner.
    Spiderman 3. SUCKED
    Mr. Deeds Goes to Town. Did people really think Adam Sandler could be on par with Gary Cooper?

  • Rikard

    Weird remaking an american movie from 92. But Herzog is a great director an Nic Cage did a good job in Leaving Las vegas, this is the same kinda turf.
    And there can never be enough surf movies.

  • David Bishop

    Speed 2, rest of the world 0.

  • Bruce in NC

    90210 remake, PBII?, Bad Lieutenant remake? Can’t believe we are feeding on the 90s already.

  • Cara

    The king of Bad Remake Hill is still Gus Van Sant’s 1998 “Psycho”.
    Seriously, was there a murderous mob of fans somewhere screaming for this to be remade? Who, exactly, asked you to do that, Van Sant? Who funded it, for God’s sake?

  • kim in kentucky

    the Scooby Doo sequel? they made Scrappy the villian in the first one which was just wrong!

  • Snarf

    The remakes of the following…
    Halloween
    The Fog
    The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
    The Hills have Eyes
    And the sequels
    The Hills have Eyes 2
    Batman Forever
    Anaconda 2
    Pet Semetary 2
    Don’t even get me started on all the direct to DVD sequels (Disney I’m looking at you)

  • AA

    I wonder if we could ever have a year of movies in which there were NO sequels and NO remakes. Just all original movies (they could still adapt from print, just not TV). One can dream.

  • Hamburger Royal

    Point Break 2? Really? What’s the working title, Point Less? Well, go ahead. And while you’re at it, someone please call Jim Cameron. We need more Titanic.

  • Eric Friedmann

    It is my opinion that over the past decade Hollywood has sunk into the lowest pits of Hell by churning out a constant array of sequels and remakes. With the exception of Peter Jackson’s KING KONG (2205), none of these films have achieved anything of value that will earn them any kind of place in screen history. They seek only to insult the intelligence (what little there usually is) of those who are stupid enough to waste their time and money on them. They exist because those that are running the “show” these days no longer have any conception of what an original story idea is. All they can see, is that if it was successful before, then just copy it to death and it will make lots of money!
    Hey, Hollywood, listen up – original, and even simple story ideas CAN and WILL make you money if you just give them and the moviegoing public a chance! Remember FORREST GUMP during the middle of summer 1994?

  • Eric Friedmann

    And while we’re on this subject, here are some sequels that made me sick, even when I was younger:
    GREASE 2, STAYING ALIVE, SUPERMAN III & IV, ROCKY IV & V, POLTERGEIST II & III, KING KONG LIVES, LETHAL WEAPON 4, BEVERLY HILLS COP III, BATMAN FOREVER & BATMAN AND ROBIN
    I have not bothered to see remakes in a very long time, but my wife did drag me to see POSEIDON in 2006. Horrible!
    However, here are some remakes I have loved:
    KING KONG (1976 & 2005), THE FLY (1986), INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (1978), DRACULA (1979 & 1992)

  • Dtom

    With respect to Point Break 2, I’d be all about it with the original cast, ESPECIALLY BUSEY (“Utah! Get me two!”) Otherwise, I’m not interested.

  • Why oh why

    I look forward to the “sequel” to Fahrenheit 9/11, but for your information, useless EW journalist, it is a documentary. The highest-grossing doc of all times and an Oscar winner. And why should Michael Moore show nuance to talk about the worst president in history?

  • Eric Friedmann

    Is it just me, or does it seem that many of these EW blog writers don’t have a damn clue about what they’re talking about? Are they required to take an illiteracy test to get their jobs?

  • Heather Wixson

    No, No, NO, NO! to Point Break 2…as much as most people won’t openly admit it (but I will), the original is freakin’ awe-sum! I can actually quote the entire movie from beginning to end and I think it was THE perfect action movie of the 90s (I don’t count T2 because it was just a continuation)…yes, it was a bit cheesy but who cares? A lot of great action movies are. I wish I could find whoever green-lighted this project and give them a little beat-down Utah/Bodhi tag-team-on-the-beach style. Man, I really cannot believe they are doing this. Oh wait, I guess I can…sigh.

  • to Why Oh Why

    Not that it makes a big difference, but it lends credence to your argument if your facts are correct. While it is the #1 grossing documentary of all time, Farenheit 9/11 never won, nor was it even nominated for an Oscar. The Penguin movie won that year.

  • Why oh why

    My bad, but it did win the Palme d’Or at Cannes, which is even better (for a documentary). Moore won an Oscar for ‘Bowling for Columbine’.

  • Vince

    If we’re on the subject on unnecessary sequels, here’s a couple of good articles on sequels to your “favorite” franchises:
    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/13412/30_upcoming_movie_sequels_you_didnt_know_about.html
    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/19512/28_sequels_later_more_films_you_didnt_know_were_coming.html

  • Amy

    Scrappy is a Villian no matter what he’s cast as.

  • Eric Friedmann

    Vince, I just looked at both of those links. All I can say is that I don’t know how the people that run Hollywood can even bare to look at themselves in the mirror anymore! Did they actually achieve college degrees just so they could offer sh*t like that to the world?? How do they live with themselves???
    Hey, why don’ they just bring in Ben Kingsley to play a resurrected Gandhi and have him to battle with Jason Vorhees!!!

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