In retrospect, I really shoulda known better. Read the full post.
Apr 23
2008
07:28 PM ET
I saw it, so you don't have to: Ben Stein's 'Expelled'
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I saw the film apparently the same time you did tonight. Only one question was asked and it was never addressed. In fact I found it funny that all the scientists stumbled and fumbled through any response to being asked, “what/who started/created life?” No ONE intelligent response was given. Darwin doesn’t make sense to me, period. Something cannot come from nothing.
I saw Expelled tonight and thought it was well done and asked all the right questions. All the Darwin belivers had no intelligent answer for where life originated from beyond “crystals” and “seeding from aliens”! Come on how how dumb and uninformed do they think people are.
Just the complexity of the living cell begs an intelligence to program it!
“I saw it so you don’t have to”….. translated…
“You folks do not know how to evaluate your own input… you guys are dumb, so let me interpret for you and let you know that this movie is not worth seeing… You see… I (the great) say so… therefore do not waste your time and money over this movie, since if I say it is trash, it is trash”
This is typical of all you evolutionists and liberals. You do not have any real discussion so you slant, spin and you abuse and condescend on others, at the same time preaching to others that they should not argue with you.
PATHETIC
“I saw it so you don’t have to”….. translated…
“You folks do not know how to evaluate your own input… you guys are dumb, so let me interpret for you and let you know that this movie is not worth seeing… You see… I (the great) say so… therefore do not waste your time and money over this movie, since if I say it is trash, it is trash”
This is typical of all you evolutionists and liberals. You do not have any real discussion so you slant, spin and you abuse and condescend on others, at the same time preaching to others that they should not argue with you.
PATHETIC
Some of you seem to be missing the point of Simon V-L’s original post. It’s a MOVIE review, not a critique of the theory of Intelligent Design. He is judging ‘Expelled’ based in its merits as a film, and clearly he found it lacking. What’s the big deal? You supporters of ID whine that your ideas are not taken seriously enough within the world of science and academia, and actually you’re right that it’s a subject worth discussing. The problem is that you seem to have a hard time putting your views into coherent and intelligent terms, and instead resort to drawing illogical, juvenile connections between Hitler and Darwin.
okay, off-topic question for Simon:
Is that you in the photo with this blog post, pointing at the movie poster? ‘Cuz if so, then…you’re kinda cute.
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Seriously… I can’t imagine anyone seeing the previews for this and saying to themselves “Hey! This looks like a great, balanced, informative documentary that prompts discussion!” Just the ADS make it look one-sided. What would have been nice would have been to have a documentary that actually showed both sides engaged in an intelligent debate. Poor Simon is an ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST, you guys, cut him a little slack. He’s only evaluating the quality of the film, which involves the arguments it makes.
On a separate note, I lean towards Darwin’s theory of evolution as an explanation for how things got here because there is ample evidence and it is pretty logical. Now, it may turn out that in another 3000 years (if we haven’t blown ourselves up) that we find another alternative that makes even MORE sense. But in the mean time, realize that it never proposes the reason for how life originated, nor does it claim to.
“The film goes to great lengths to separate Intelligent Design from Creationism; I feel it actually proves they are separate.”
Two words for you: cdesign proponentsists.
It’s telling that the film didn’t interview any of the multitude of scientists that are supporters of evolution AND believe in God. Take, for example, the director of the human genome project, Francis S. Collins, who is both an ardent supporter of evolution and an evangelical Christian.
“Darwin doesn’t make sense to me, period. Something cannot come from nothing.”
It doesn’t make sense to you because you’ve never actually learned it. Evolution says absolutely nothing about the origin of life. It only tries to explain how new species arose from older ones.
Go see the film for yourself period.
Awwww…. look at all the little religious people with their panties in an uproar. We’re SO persecuted, being the dominant religion with obscene amounts of wealth and resources to make propaganda pieces. Oh that big bad secular society is just out to get US. I cry rivers, I really do. The fact is though, you are slowly becoming the minority. I hope I see your kind go the way of the dinosaur (which, by the way you’re ancestor DID NOT frolic with) so that the rest of us might go on doing something constructive.
Intelligent Design is not science. At this point is not even pseudoscience. None of the proponents of this non-sense are even doing an experiment to proof their “Theory” is correct… Evolutionary Biologist on the other hand are adding to their body of knowledge and publishing each week.
I have tried to respect the views of believers for a long time, but the idiotic and ignorant comments by supporters of this film have made the conclusion inevitable: Belief in magical, invisible friends makes people retarded. PROUDLY retarded.
I walked into “Expelled” cold, never having heard or read about it, while waiting for another film to start. At first, I was waiting for what seemed an obvious diversionary ‘interview with a crackpot’ presumably as some interior plot element. As the film ground on, the amazing mindnumbing point of the movie dawned on me. Oh my.
There are a few (very few)sane moments, particularly those that advocate that spiritual values can co-existing with the scientific community, as idea that hardly reaks ground or needs a movie, as most of us would readily agree.
The most irritating, persistant thread is a whiney question, “who gets to decide what is science and what is not. Ok, let me try to answer that in two words. The scientists.
Save your $11 folks. I could only endure about twenty pathetic minutes. The Darwin-abortion-Hitler-Holocast message was especially offensive. Puleeze, he studied turtles and Boobies. Only Intelligent Design diehards (all 10 of them) will like it.
Appaerntly the critics on this blog need a serious biology lesson. Just amazing some of the droll that is put out here.
Expelled is correct about the infringement of academic freedom in the sciences. Get use to it, its not going away.
Ye gods. I suppose the difference is that evolution may not have all the answers, but ID doesn’t have any. It’s flying spaghetti monsterism all the way for me! And I love that one of the commentators here equates believing in evolution with “liberalism” – showing a massive ignorance of both! Well done madam!