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Are the skinny starlets of '90210' setting a bad example?

Sep 17, 2008, 08:39 AM | by Pop Watch

Categories: '90210', Television, Those Crazy Kids!

90210_lYou'd think it would take something big to steal our attention from the highly anticipated reunion of Jennie Garth and Shannen Doherty on the new 90210. Actually, it was something small--too small. Almost without exception, the young actresses on The CW's spin-off are alarmingly thin, with arms that seem thickest at the wrists, and legs that look, well, like arms. As we watched Kansas transplant Annie Wilson (Shenae Grimes, pictured, left) graze on a side salad as her lunch entrée, one question lingered: Are we the only ones overreacting to these skinny minnies? The answer, as it turns out, is no. 

"Everyone says television adds five or ten pounds, so if you're watching and someone looks like they haven't eaten in forever, what must they look like in person?" asks a Hollywood insider who works with young actresses on popular series (nearly everyone asked about this subject preferred to remain anonymous). "Why doesn't someone on set or a producer or a studio head say, 'This is not okay'?" According to a source close to the show, the network has. Calls went out to representatives of the show's stars (Grimes, Jessica Stroup, pictured right, and Anna­Lynne McCord) suggesting they address the weight issue with the ladies. McCord's publicist Gary Mantoosh denies receiving such notice, and insists that his client chows down on "whatever she wants," including hamburgers. But one report estimates that none of the stars weighs more than 110 pounds, and 90210 insiders quietly admit that they know there's a problem.

Of course, no one is pointing accusatory fingers at three actresses barely out of their teens. One casting agent who works frequently with The CW turns a critical eye on the network itself. "I know in discussions at ABC and CBS that 'too skinny' is no good. They talk about it as a minus point," says the agent. "But at The CW it's a different story. They're trying to pull in the Gossip Girl audience and that's the image: hyper-skinny models." (The network declined to comment for this article.) Still, The CW hardly stands alone in holding Hollywood actresses to an impossible standard when it comes to weight: Be thin, really really thin--but not too thin! Which leaves actresses with, oh, roughly eight ounces of wiggle room.

This isn't new: 10 years ago, after Calista Flockhart, Portia de Rossi, and Lara Flynn Boyle first became household names, Ally McBeal confronted the controversy face-to-emaciated-face when Boyle guest-starred in a 1998 episode and sneered to Flockhart, "Maybe you could eat a cookie." Flockhart snapped back, "Maybe we could share it." But all eating-disorder jokes aside, those were grown women in a show marketed to adults. The CW, on the other hand, celebrates the fact that 90210 beats every other network on Tuesday nights in females 12-34. Besides, weight-related pressure is trickling down to the youngest of girls: The National Eating Disorders Association cites data from the 1990s in which 42 percent of girls in grades 1-3 reported a desire to be thinner. Says the association's CEO Lynn S. Grefe, "There's no doubt it's gotten worse."

Even a cursory glance at pop culture bears Grefe out. In its Sept. 22 issue, People magazine (which, like EW, is owned by Time Warner) sized up the girls of 90210 next to those lanky Gossip Girl stars, declaring that the GG actresses were "curvy." The implication being, says the Hollywood insider, that "if Leighton [Mees­ter] is curvy then anyone above that is fat." And where on the tube are women of substance celebrated? On the 1960s ad drama Mad Men, the exaggerated hourglass of Chris­tina Hendricks is the very definition of sexy. But, alas, her curves are another prop of the era, just like an Eames chair.

The sad truth is that falling outside the standard deviation for weight in the entertainment industry is what feeds the media frenzy. But, hey, at least something's getting fed. --Alynda Wheat, with additional reporting by Vanessa Juarez, Lindsay Soll, and Lynette Rice

What do you think about the ladies of 90210? Are they too skinny? Are there any shows outside Mad Men that you think promote a healthy body image? For related stories, check out EW's recent 90210 cover story, Ken Tucker's review of the show's pilot episode, Michael Ausiello's casting scoop, and our PopWatch posts on the show's Spring Awakening connection and controversial family-hour oral sex scene.

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Lindsay Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM EST

I Love that Show, no matter what the girls weigh. Its okay to be skinny Im 20 years old 5'7 and 115 pounds after having a baby. I will always be thin. Those girls are probably the sameway. Its there body let them be as Skinny as they want its there choice. No bad examples at all.

getpractical Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:52 PM EST

For everyone who's suggesting the girls are naturally skinny, I think you should take a look at the girls BEFORE the show started. I don't know about Shenae but I know Jessica Stroup from Reaper and she was never that thin. She was slender and gorgeous. Some of the recent photos of her scare me for her safety.
She's too skinny. And honestly, not that she ever would be, but it's healthier to be 10lbs overweight than 10lbs under, same with 30lbs over vs 30lb under, why? well one means heartache in 20yrs. The other means, currently starving. I'm sorry, I've lost a friend to anorexia and all of you people commenting saying it's normal, it's gorgeous etc, are feeding into girl's disorders.
They need to get some help, I hope they do. Best wishes to them both.

gegeeeee Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 01:51 PM EST

omg i love these gals they luk hot there so pretty n SKINNY all i wana no is why cant i luk like them :L xoxo

Ashley Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:20 PM EST

Im a 16 year old girl with an eating disorder so as i see it these girls on this show arent "too" skinny. But truth be told no body knows these girls!! it could be very possible they are just naturally thin or that they make themselves look that way. i can say as a thinner girl i can understand but for this to be made such an issure can truely cause someone to act in eating disorder behaviors. everyone should just take it in that these girls are extremely beautiful woman and leave it at that.

Julia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:39 PM EST

I feel that these girls are beautiful young woman, and not just because they are skinny! Yes, it is true that today many of the younger girls are looking up to the girls on lets just say "90210" and noticing their body weight. Some people are just naturally skinny and i am not saying that a bad thing! I just think people should stop worrying less on the way they look and more on the person they are in the inside! Looks aren't everything!

Julia Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:39 PM EST

I feel that these girls are beautiful young woman, and not just because they are skinny! Yes, it is true that today many of the younger girls are looking up to the girls on lets just say "90210" and noticing their body weight. Some people are just naturally skinny and i am not saying that a bad thing! I just think people should stop worrying less on the way they look and more on the person they are in the inside! Looks aren't everything!

Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 09:16 PM EST

Im so tired of hearing this argument. I am a naturally thin woman and I always have been. Regardless of what I say, the heavier people are going to disagree and the thin people are going to understand. In today's society it seems to be "okay" and "normal" to be bigger. News Flash: People are not supposed to be fat! And guess what? There is no "normal" body. What right do you have to consider certain body types more "real" than the next? Jennifer Lopez does not have more "real" or "normal" of a body than these girls simply because she ways more. Life is not fair and unfortunately not everyone is given this "curvy" body that you all seem to speak of so much. Some of us are heavier and some of us are thin. Sorry, that's the way it goes. But as for me, I am skinny and I am not going to be made to feel like something is wrong with me because of it. I am healthy and I eat just as much as any one else, so people need to consider how different bodies can be before they become judges of "normal

maria Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 03:34 PM EST

Im 5'6 & weigh 120 pounds and felt happy with my weight, but since i've started watching the new 90210 i feel FAAAT... now im on a diet to lose at least 15 pounds

EA Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 09:21 AM EST

I think it's great that so many people can see that these girls are way too skinny. But as for the others, it's not right people making excuses for them and say that they're pretty just because they're skinny. They're meant to set an example!

Me Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:51 AM EST

Actually, I really don't see them as being too skinny. I have friends who weigh much less (from 85-100lbs)and they are perfectly healthy (they run 8 or 9 min miles). Personally, I think the girls on 90210 are pretty. :]

Alex Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM EST

Yeah, it was Listen 2 This. I liked those, but then they started not being exclusively about music, (they started to include video games & comic books too) http://cleaning.emenace.com/upholste2b/57.html cleaning silver undefined

Jordan Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 08:41 PM EST

Everyone is different. Venting your rage in a blog about them being too skinny or unnattractive is like blogging is like a white supremist being racist against an African-American. Besides I am completely positive that none of you bloggers want the general public calling you names and labeling you because you are "too fat" or "too skinny".
Whatever happened to actually getting to know a person or seeing a person through their talents over their looks? We aren't in high school anymore.
And do you really think that picking on them in an internet blog is going to do anything? If you really have that strong and that negative of an opinion, keep it to yourself. You wouldn't be doing anything good for yourself or these girls.

deborah Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 06:58 AM EST

i think they look very cute and really its what the mayority of the audience whants to see hot plp hooking up with more hot plp...

elite1 Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:34 PM EST

That skinny look is in. Everyone need
not be to be big or fat in this world that look went out in the 60's

Skinny is hot!!!

elite1 Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM EST

No,they are not setting a bad example
they are beauitful and that skinny
look is great too. Other girls should
not blame them for there own short comings. They should get control of there own life. Those two 90210 girls are really very pretty!!!
elite1 of: New York

Shannon Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 03:25 PM EST

It's pretty sad when girls who may have eating disorders are being publicly attacked. Way to go US magazine for making these girls feel even more insecure!

I think that if these girls do have eating disorders than they need help, not to have their issue brought to the public. By the way, I don't know if anyone ever watched Degrassi:TNG which is where Shenae Grimes comes from, but she was no larger in the 2-3 years that she did that show than she is now.

I also need to point out that when I was in high school, I was between 115 and 120lbs, and I am 5'8", making me a size 2 at the time, and I definately ate at least as much as I do today in my 140lb size 6 frame. It's called metabolism!

sweeper Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:44 AM EST

Look even on the first episode one girl had a small salad and soda for lunch the other girl had nothing
Not only is the show telling teens, you need to be skinny its showing teens how to eat skinny

Barbara Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 03:01 PM EST

Jennie and Shannen were a normal weight on the original 90210. They looked fantastic. These girls make them look heavy in comparison. It just shows how out-of-control our pop culture has gotten. We feel that attractive and popular = skinny. Whether these girls are naturally skinny or starving themselves, it doesn't matter. Girls need more positive role models on television.

Claire Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM EST

I'm 18 years old and have struggled with anorexia for five years. While I personally wouldn't blame the media, it is different in every case. Some people start because of emotional reasons, because it's the only thing they can control, pressure, and then there is the need to lose a few pounds to look like the people you see everyday on TV and realizing that after a few you want to lose a few more because you look so good and then it becomes addiction. I think that people need to remember how much pressure these girls are under and what emotional issues they must be going through.

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Robin Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 07:10 PM EST

It is very unhealthy to be too thin, even more so than being a little heavy. That being said, who the heck are these parents who have taught their children to look towards others for how they should feel about themselves? Where are the parents resposibilities if not with their kids and the kids behavior etc. It is just another way to transfer issues onto others instead of dealing with them. My children are who they are because of my parenting and their personality. Not because of who they watch on t.v, and if you have kids who are that shallow and that impressionable, then get them help and monitor what they watch on t.v, simple as that. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHILDREN...

N0tN0rmal Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 07:47 AM EST

In re-reading some of these other comments, I have to add another. Nobody on this planet can tell me there are THAT MANY "naturally" skinny (count the ribs skinny) girls/women out there.
An article/story not long ago made me want to scream. It was about Hayden Panettiere, the girl that plays Claire on Heroes. They had pics of her in a bikini that were taken on her recent birthday AND THE PERSON THAT WROTE THE ARTICLE BASICALLY SAID SHE NEEDED TO GO ON A DIET!!! She's not fat or even chubby-she's got what all of us of the female gender develop in our lives: THEY'RE CALLED HIPS! I don't recall anyone calling Jennifer Lopez or Beyonce fat-and they both have curves-in fact, I remember the media focusing on Jennifer's butt earlier in her career and how sexy it was! For those of you too young to remember ask your parents about Karen Carpenter. Her struggle with and DEATH from being too skinny was all over the media. Someone needs to put the story of her life on tv again.

N0tN0rmal Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 07:29 AM EST

YES, YES & YES. This is crazy skinny!
My younger sister was a preemie when she was born & stayed really skinny until she turned about 14-and then all that changed were her hips. She actually HATED being skinny! I don't blame her, when you can't find a pair of jeans that fit because you're too skinny it honestly can suck! In my early & mid 20s, I (on purpose!) was pretty skinny and thought it was awesome that I could wear GIRLS size 12. My mother has a photo of me taken then with my daughter who was 3 or 4 at the time sitting on my lap & I cringe every time I see it....my legs weren't much bigger than hers! (And she was a skinnier kid than many back then!) SCARY!! I dare any one of them to do a Google photo search of anorexics-there are some pretty awful pics in there of very sick girls. There's so many health issues with this illness (yes, in my college Psychology book it's in the same chapter as scizophrenia and manic depression.) AND IT CAN KILL YOU!

Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 07:32 PM EST

im naturally skinny and i dont have a problem with it but those girls need to put on a little more wiegh .Coming from a person at the wieght of 115 is kind of odd but honestly i wouldnt want to be any skinnier.....i use to wieght jsut as much as them but no matter how much i eat i wont gain wieght...i an very healthy but clearly thier not.....START EATING GIRLS!!!!

CW Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 08:22 PM EST

These girls r toooooooo skinny, I sick of people trying to make it seems like it's nothing wrong wit being that skinny, u dnt have to b n if u look at other ppl like Beyonce, J-lo, Jennifer Hudson.......they all look great!!!!!!!!

Dre Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 01:36 PM EST

I'm the same height and weight as Stroup, and I think I look fine. She and McCord have fab bodies, but Grimes looks kinda gross. Maybe it's because her proportions are so strange.

Bri Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:59 PM EST

It doesn't matter whether they are naturally skinny or they struggle with eating disorders. The problem isn't that they're skinny, and this isn't just a problem with 90210, either. The problem is that the media glorifies this image. I am 17 and I have my own eating issues. I've made myself miserable, and it's too bad that millions of girls, (and guys), are going to do the same thing to themselves because we're constantly told the only way we're attractive is if we have perfect physiques.

caroline Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM EST

what i meant to say was obviously the popular girls in high school are the skinnier ones

caroline Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:52 PM EST

obviously, the popular high school girls are not going to be the skinnier ones. Also high school skinny is on a completely different scale than adult skinny. I went to my my five year high school reunion this summer, and I remember seeing my friends and thinking, they look so great and are still just as skinny as they were in high school. I decided to look at some high school pictures, they looked scary skinny compared to how they look now. I know they ate right and never brought up weight. They were just those girls who came that way. I just think that is how girls in high school look.

heather Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 09:49 AM EST

it all depeneds on your body type, im about 5'8" in pretty good shape yet i weight 160 pounds...you can never tell why some so thin and in shape ways so much. no one can ever guess my weight but its because large bones run in my family...im not saying it good to be thin im actually frustratingly annoiyed be all these thin girls and it makes people (even me)feel like i need to way less to be found atractive when really i dont and niether does any other girl.. unless your unhealthy your fine just the way you are and dont need to change, but you shouldnt judge these people on t.v. until you know the facts. and dont trust the magazines for the facts ok there mostly lies and made up stuff you cant tell fact from fiction.

Sierra Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 09:39 AM EST

Hollywood pisses me off. The way they think about certain things makes me physically sick. They don't care about the actors being "skinny". Isn't that what they want?. They care about the ratings. And for the moms having to explain to their kids about how "skinny" they are, you shouldn't have to. It's a shame that we live in a country where people will feel guilty for eating a spoonful of ice cream.

Brandon Ladner Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM EST

At first I thought they were hot, as I am a teenage boy, but after I saw some pictures in a magazine my Mum was reading, I was appauled. It is true that TV adds 10 pounds or so, and I only started believing it after those pictures, noone is that good with photoshop.

I have looked online at so many pictures and pointed it out in the school newsletter, because I write regular articles for it.
It's not the actresses because Jessica Stroup was almost fat on Prom Night and she was fine with it, and Shenae Grimes was the perfect weight on Degrassi.

I think if someone else doesn't pick up 90210 the franchise will be dead, and it will be because the actors are too skinny to do everythin they get asked to. We should all fight it, and if noone else is in I'll do it myself.
Please, if anyone is interested in helping contact me asap.

~Brandon

tay Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:45 PM EST

yeah they are way to thin!

alice Alessandri Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:09 PM EST

I don't know if it is a health problem for that girls or not, but I think they are way too skinny. They're not even attractive anymore, they don't seem healthy, they're just innatural!
I think the television should not emphatize that kind of body with an entire cast underweight, because if, and I say if, for the actresses is not a health problem, for a little girl who wants to be like them it could become a real issue.

cassy Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 01:03 AM EST

Depends on the reason why they are skinny.

Many people are quick to judge or associate skinny with anorexia or bulemia.

They don't seem to realize that many people are naturally skinny: they can't gain weight just like others can't lose it.

I'm 5'4, and I weigh 100 pounds. I eat everything. I haven't been sick in 2 years. I never run out of breath or get dizzy. All blood tests come out normal, I get enough nutrition.

And yet I'm supposed to feel that I'm not normal and that I should go out of my way to gain weight? The last time I checked normal means healthy, and I'm healthy, so why shouldn't I be considered normal?

To each their own. If these girls are purposely trying to be skinny, then they need to sort out their issues. However, if that is just their natural body type, leave them alone. No one is quick to tell a chubbyor curvy person to lose weight, so no one should tell a skinny person to gain weight.

As long as you're healthy, that's all that matters.

mac Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 09:29 PM EST

Better than ugly fat girls.

mac Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 09:22 PM EST

Better than ugly fat girls.

Raphael Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 06:28 PM EST

What gets me is that whenever these magazines and tv shows and movies describe their skinny women as sexy, it is usually from a woman's point of view. Every man that I know will tell you that a sexy woman has curves and that skinny women have no appeal to the real world. This is just the media trying to dictate a certain image it wants to market and the public just eats it up. I think being healthy isn't just a weight issue and they seem to think it is.

Haley Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 05:52 PM EST

no body wants to see a bunch of fat peope on tv. duh.

lady_wraith Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 01:09 PM EST

It's just f'ing sad that everyone wants to define themselves based on what they see on tv, "if Eva longoria says...", "if this girl looks that way then I'm overweight," JEEZ! why is the mission of actresses (teens mostly, which is even worse) to dictate what you should look like?? why do they have to be healthy so you feel good about yourself? you give tv that power then you complain when you your kids end up imitating them! Talk about being a hypocrite, not everyone has to be a particular way to be healthy! and what if they are sick and starved, how does that concern you, I'm sure you'd give Mother Theresa a run for her money, seing how you're so concerned with the health of others, what a load of crap!

lady_wraith Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:54 PM EST

Johnny hit the nail on the head!! All women are constantly judged based on their looks,it'n not only what we think about ourselves, is about pleasing everyone else. I'm naturally skinny, this kind of thing only reinforces my deep-seated believe that I'm not "normal" that I SHOULD gain weight so people don't think i'm sick, even though I'm perfectly healthy. The soulution? Focus on your own issues instead of those non-issues of other people!

Bianca Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM EST

I would love to challenge any one of those girls to a marathon!!! They are not fit, they are not healthy ... they are just skinny !!! Skinny isn't sexy ... skinny is not hot ... healthy and fit are sexy.
Women have come so far in the last 50 or so years in so many ways and yet we have gone backwards in so many other ways. Why can't we stand up and be proud of what we are. We are a gender that struggles with so many things - PMS, pregnancy, menopause, hysterectomies, tube tying, abortions, miscarriages, child rearing ... why can't we be proud of what we can overcome "as women" instead of showing our breasts and belly buttons ... our bra burners of the 60's would be so disappointed !!!

Lori Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:05 AM EST

As the mother of a recovering 17-year-old anorexic, I can’t thank Alynda Wheat enough for this article. Through my daughter’s treatment, I have learned that while society’s obsession with thinness does not in itself cause eating disorders, it certainly leads girls (and boys) to the unnecessary dieting which can then trigger an eating disorder in those genetically predisposed to one. My daughter, who always had a lean and toned body, decided her “muffin tops” above her ridiculous low-rise jeans needed work, and that was the beginning of the end. So I applaud EW’s calling attention to this silly need for thinness.

Lore Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM EST

And for the record - some people that you might consider 'fat' may actually be healthier then the girls on the screen here. If you can be healthy and that skinny, then you can also be slightly overweight and still be healthy. It all depends upon your body and genetic makeup, honestly.

And...these girls do not look healthy or 'toned'. In pictures taken of them you can see that their arms aren't toned, but are just plain skinny.

Lore Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM EST

That's the thing. Shows and magazines aimed towards women always feature models/actresses that are on the unhealthy side of skinny. I just don't understand why women feel the need to mimic these skinny people. I read an article the other day criticizing the woman who plays Joan on MadMen - apparently her curves aren't attractive to not only the author but the readers as well.

What ever happened to finding healthy sexy? I don't think these actresses need anymore air time until they get a hold of their body weight issues.

K.T. Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 08:52 AM EST

The producers are doing The world of women a disservice. THere is something to be said about people being naturally thin but both of these girls were heavier before they started the show and now all of a sudden on the show they are much thinner. Do the producers even care about about their viewers?

Chelsie Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:23 PM EST

girls my age already have eating issues because of so many reasons. I'm 5'6.I weigh 116. Like 115 pounds or 120 pounds is over weight to girls who get fed this image of girls who are so so so thin, anything seems fat. 90210 will cause more eating disorders, there's no way it won't. It has already made me and my friends to rethink that how shennea looks is normal and that we might be overweight.

livingdeadjeni Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:56 PM EST

Yes some women are naturally thin, and some may have thyroid disorders making them thinner, just like some aren't thin. The issue here is more the fact that they're not adults, and if they are naturally thin, the network and producers are instigating body image issues on females by "coincidentally" selecting a cast full of "naturally thin" women.

Debi Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:33 PM EST

We cannot automatically assume that these actresses are healthy simply because they look very svelte (to say the least). Until we know their blood pressure, white blood cell count, red bood cell count, heart rate, cholesterol, diet (which should be balanced-- NOT just salads!), bone density and MENTAL state, we cannot say that actresses and models are healthy simply because they are a size zero. In the same vein, we also cannot automatically assume that they are starving themselves with a psychological illness (I posted the anorexia stats to show that being very underweight can be unhealthy and fatal). The point is that people cannot assume anything by appearance alone. However, since the Halo Effect (thin/ pretty= "good person" fat/ ugly= "bad person") seems to be occurring at this EW site (and in society in general), I'm focusing more on the women commentors saying that the 90210 girls are paragons of health because they look skinny.

sydney Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:03 PM EST

i do not think that they are to skinny they are seting an example for people that are over weight to lose that and be healthy

Sarah Smith Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:36 PM EST

Im sorry, my comment below was not meant for raulrocks, it was for Shep and everyone who supports her.

Sarah Smith Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:36 PM EST

Im sorry, my comment below was not meant for raulrocks, it was for Shep and everyone who supports her.

Debi Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:35 PM EST

What people fail to realize is that THIN DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY EQUAL FIT/HEALTHY!!

Listen to yourselves--"eat a salad and work out, fatty!", --"ALL size 2s don't eat"-- have we women bought the media-machine pitch to the point where we've become the perpetrators of it by persecuting each other??

Some "food" for thought:

*Eating disorders have the highest mortality rate of any mental illness

*The mortality rate associated with anorexia nervosa is 12 times higher than the death rate of ALL causes of death for females 15 – 24 years old.
http://www.state.sc.us/dmh/anorexia/statistics.htm

I'm NOT saying the actresses on the show have any sort of eating disorder. However, extremely thin actresses, whether natural or not, become a paradigm for impressionable teenage girls (and it seems from the comments, older women, which is disturbing) which will invariably exacerbate an already-existing eating disorder. Unnatural-looking thinness will encourage unnatural means to become that thin

sarah smith Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:33 PM EST

To raulrocks and everyone who agrees with her: I am sorry to say but you must be anorexic yourself! This is not an attack, this is a condition that you have and if you don’t recognize it soon enough, you can easily develop osteoporosis or arthritis at a very young age. Your bones and muscles will start aching by your mid twenties, your immune system will become so weak that you will easily contract viruses. You guys (and the girls in 90210) are in denial. I would have agreed with you 2-3 years back because I was anorexic myself and looked like the girls in 90210.I would also say “how would fat people like if they are called fat ". Guess what, they are called fat but more importantly, it’s not a fat vs skinny competition. Either one is bad. The key is to stay at a healthy weight and exercise in moderation. I bet 90210 girls do not consume more than 600 calories per day and probably exercise way too much (which is also a form of eating disorder). Please, open your eyes and realize that you cannot support this!!

raulrocks Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:54 PM EST

"These comments are abosolutley ridiculous. Some people are born to be thin, just as some people are born to be fat. It's a genetic inheritance. You don't ever hear people getting ridiculed for being fat on t.v., do you? Just something to think about.."

Seriously?? Are effing kidding??? You haven't heard people get ridiculed for being fat on TV??? What rock do you live under. We got a comment right here about "Oprahfication" implying that Oprah is just a big fat grease eating pig. Get real.

Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:20 PM EST

Maybe this the look that the producers/directors were going for? I do agree with what someone said about the actors on Secret Life of an American Teenager look more realistic.

And a size 0 or 2 can be healthy. One of my friends is like 5'4" and a size 2/3 and she's perfectly healthy. I think the word "fit" is the word that we're looking for. I worked with someone who was a size 4ish and she got winded while walking up just one flight of stairs, I'd hardly call that healthy. BTW I'm college age, just to give an idea of fitness level.

And could we please have more racial diversity in shows? And showing girls playing sports and excelling in math/science. Or would this be breaking too many stereotypes at once?

Ann Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:14 PM EST

they look great on tv

Christa Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:10 PM EST

With 40% of American teens "wishing they were thinner" and a million fad diets to try, is it any wonder more than half the population is obese? Perhaps these teen stars can set a good example AND stay skinny. Show them eating their salads (ok, maybe add some chicken) and going for a run!

CB Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 04:09 PM EST

"these girls look amazing... when will the Oprahfication of America end?. (when we all die of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart attacks.) they are in excellent shape. not thin and unhealthy. but toned, with good muscle definition. Fat kills 1000 times more Americans than thin does. so quit hating and start a regular routine of diet and exercise."

yes, except no. there's fat, there's healthy, and then there's WAY TOO SKINNY. these girls fall into the "WAY TOO SKINNY" category.

having SOME fat is actually good for you, and is natural. obesity is, of course, not. that's obvious. but the girls in this article look TERRIBLE. they look like a gust of wind could carry them away.

worked out Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 03:52 PM EST

these girls look amazing... when will the Oprahfication of America end?. (when we all die of diabetes, high blood pressure and heart attacks.) they are in excellent shape. not thin and unhealthy. but toned, with good muscle definition. Fat kills 1000 times more Americans than thin does. so quit hating and start a regular routine of diet and exercise.

nicole Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 03:43 PM EST

not all women are the same size. Some are a size 12, some are a size 4. I'm a woman who's naturally slim and I get a little tired of people assuming that I'm NOT eating just as there are women who are not as slim and people assume they are eating TOO much. If you're going to represent women, have women in all sizes. We are all unique and shouldn't try to make people fit one size. All women are beautiful no matter what size they are. If they're healthy, then it shouldn't be an issue. I know I'm slim, but I am a healthy gal and proud of it...

jess Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 02:19 PM EST

Somebody has already mentioned it, but Battlestar Galactica does healthy women very well. Katie Sackhoff is heavy by TV standards, healthy and sexy. Kandyse McClure and Grace Park are both slight, but not bony. Even the exaggerated model, Trica Helfer, is not painfully thin, and Mary McDonnell is a curvy grand dame. Science fiction often deserves credit for being ahead of the curve, so to speak; I first noticed Christina Hendricks on Firefly.

sc Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 02:05 PM EST

I think you all are taking this in the wrong context. Young girls take what they see on TV and want to emulate it. These girls are TOO skinny for TV, and it would be the same if they were fat. So from 90210, girls are going to want to be anorexicly skinny like the young female actresses. And they could have easily cast a “curvy girl” but they didn’t. Now for Naomi that is just ridiculous. Her outfits are unreal. Girls are sent home from school if they were to wear outfits like that. This show puts out be outrageously skinny, wear expensive clothes and have sex. I don’t think a little realism would hurt the show. Especially seeing how they are in like 9th or 10th grade. And for the mental health issue, peer pressure is a b*t*h, it has nothing to do with mental problems.

LK Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 01:24 PM EST

If young girls aspire to look like and act like what they see on TV then its more than just a health issue, its a mental health issue. Today this show is the only TV show that comes to mind in terms of too-skinny actresses. If you're a parent and don't want your teen daughter to watch this then tell her to rent "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants" (or go see the sequel), watch "Ugly Betty," or watch "One Tree Hill." All of those movies/shows feature healthy actresses and probably better story-lines (aside from "One Tree Hill").

Amanda Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:07 AM EST

NO ONE GIVES FAT PEOPLE A HARD TIME? You have GOT to be kidding me! I remember when Jordin Sparks won American Idol, a woman actually got on TV talking about how "obese" she was and how she was a bad example for girls. Whether or not you hear it from the media, people you consider to be "fat" probably experience verbal abuse all the time. Let a doctor tell someone if his/her weight is unhealthy.

And regardless of whether the creators of Mad Men are knowingly promoting healthier body image for women, Christina Hendricks makes me feel good about being curvy. And I'm grateful for that.

Shep Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM EST

These comments are abosolutley ridiculous. Some people are born to be thin, just as some people are born to be fat. It's a genetic inheritance. You don't ever hear people getting ridiculed for being fat on t.v., do you? Just something to think about..

Shep Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM EST

These comments are abosolutley ridiculous. Some people are born to be thin, just as some people are born to be fat. It's a genetic inheritance. You don't ever hear people getting ridiculed for being fat on t.v., do you? Just something to think about..

M Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:33 AM EST

Why are people so hard on skinny girls? You don't know their story. Yes, they could indeed have an eating disorder, but on the other hand maybe they don't. A lot of these actress's work hard on their figure. They eat healthy and workout everyday. Good for them!! Maybe fat people should watch what they eat and workout everyday. I'm skinny and people always ask me "Oh, you are so skinny! How do you do it?" Well, I wake up at 5 am everyday of my life and workout for an hour and a half and make healthy food choices! Why is it that people never give fat people a hard time. When they see a fat actress all they say is "Good for her!" "You go girl!" They always praise them. God forbid someone hurt their feelings and tell them how unhealthy it is to be overweight. All I'm saying is yes, maybe these girls could stand to gain a few pounds but leave the girls alone. They are young and beautiful.

Jeffrey Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:01 AM EST

Archieve: the "fat but fit" argument has been widely disproven lately, if you do some research. However, this does not mean that being underweight is healthy. Another side of all this: a lot of people are, as a matter of genetics and natural growth, very skinny when they're younger. Almost everyone's metabolism slows down as they age and weight comes on. Again, I'm not sure how anyone can expect 90210 to lead the charge against thin body image.

Will Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 07:54 AM EST

When was the last time you heard fans rag on an actress for being 15 pounds over weight? Forget being so damn politically correct!!!! These girls are absolutely HOTT!! I'd much rather see skinny beautiful bodies on TV than watch a show featuring over weight plumpkins. YOU GO GIRLS .... you're absolutely gorgeous! Excellent bods!

dmill Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:54 AM EST

samm, sorry pal, but Hilary Duff is not hot. She is a horse faced dog. She should be in a carnival appearing as the horse faced dog.

Miss j Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:32 AM EST

Till the industry starts putting some wieght limits or should I say requirments thats all it will ever be. Every season we'll have a new jeneration of kids with eatiing disorders and the older ones compeating with them ..

Sar Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM EST

Yes, those girls set examples on how the "society" is now...! skinny and rich! girls, at least eat foood!

Tia Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:37 PM EST

These girls are really skinny. But im getting tired of seeing fat people on tv. Sure fat people are funny...but they're gross too.

Why Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:26 PM EST

are girls looking the way they do. They don't even look like women. They look like they are going to break. The worst is Silver on 90210. Last week when she was talking with Dixon on her car. She had her knees up to her chest and I couldn't believe those were her legs. They looked like anorexic arms.

samm Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM EST

hilary duff is beautiful!

Archieve Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 09:02 PM EST

A lot of people don't want to see fat people on TV. Question: What is fat in your eyes? A size 0-2 is not healthy. Just because someone is skinny doesn't mean they are healthy. Do people realize that a person can be skinny and have a high body fat percentage, so that what that makes them? Unhealthy.

Do people realize that "many fat people" are healthier than skinny people. I've watched a Tyra show, where they were discussing weight and this "fat woman" showed that she was fit than this "skinny woman"

Hollywood want people to believe that skinny is beautiful and it's not. I know that some people can't gain weight, but come on, no actress can say that she can eat anything and not gain weight, when she was heavier on one show and now skinner on a new show.

I would love to see a lot of these skinny actresses mother. I am sure that many of the mothers aren't skinny and a lot of young women takes after their mother. It may not happen now, but it happens later.

Mikey M Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 06:05 PM EST

They are too thin but so are the guys.

Ann Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 05:30 PM EST

Yes, they are too skinny. Much, much, much too skinny. If I ever saw a "normal sized" woman on TV, I'd faint from shock. What is a "normal sized" woman? Let's just say she doesn't look as if she was created by stretching her on a medieval torture device.

lily Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 04:49 PM EST

I totaly disagree with this, yes they are skinny, but aren't all that skinny, and in fact they are probably naturaly skinny people.

etc at www.fierceandnerdy.com Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 04:41 PM EST

I actually wrote a blog about this today. I'm boycotting this show b/c of this issue, and basically switching my affections to Skins on BBC America, where the girl who plays the anorexic is actually bigger than the actresses on 90210. If it were the other way and these girls were morbidly obese, then we wouldn't reward such unhealthy behavior and I don't think we should do it in this case either.

CraftKitten Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 04:37 PM EST

I like the show, but the fact that all of the girls on the show are way hyper skinny is alarming. Yes the show reflects culture, but the culture is shaped by these shows as well. I didnt even recognize Jessica Stroup and I loved watching her on Reaper. She was attractive there, she could be attractive on 90210 as well. Yes teenagers are usually skinner but they dont have to be THAT skinny.

Nadine Falkenburg Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 04:01 PM EST

It's TRUE, my daughter is only 10 years old and in the 5th grade and I couldn't believe it when I found out that these little girls are already worried about their weight. Now I'm sorry but these shows should set a better example.

Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:37 PM EST

i'm 5'9 and when i graduated at 21, i weighed 96 lbs. i did not, and do not, have an eating disorder. however, i did have disordered eating, in that my body did not know how to tell me it was hungry. because i was working my ass off on two different theses, i never scheduled regular meals - i just ate when i was hungry. which, unfortunately, was not that often.

oh, i still had a regular period and a head full of hair. i had plenty of energy and was a lot stronger than people assumed. but was i healthy? absolutely not.

i'm now more in tune with my body and have worked hard to get it to "remember" hunger. i'm happily 130 now, and think i look great - and really wouldn't mind gaining more - i just don't want to lose. while i don't see a lot of different in my mood, reactions from people are huge. i couldn't get past the interview process in any job i applied for despite my ridiculous resume, in part because i looked like a toothpick.

G-Dog Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:37 PM EST

Christina Hendricks....YUM! You can talk about this issue all you want, but women need to pay attention to what men REALLY want. Ask any man out there if they prefer Kim Kardashian (I know...she is evil) or one of those waifs on 90210 and 95% of them will say they want the booty.

furies Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:25 PM EST

A show that I think does an excellent job of showing different body types and attractive females is Battlestar Galactica. However, that's set in space, and rules are always different there. But even Tricia Helfer's seductive Number Six is healthy and powerful looking - she can kill people for a reason.

Belle Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:08 PM EST

So...is this the only PopWatch for 90210 this week on the obvious: the girls are very skinny? Can someone please tell me where I can find the recap for this week's show? BTW..if they put Dixon in YET another stripe shirt next week I'm going to scream! Am I out of the loop? Are stripes in for men this season? Someone please explain and tell me where is the recap. Thank You =)

Tricia Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:02 PM EST

For me, it's about why we aren't shown all sizes of people. Think about, at work, are you only surrounded by super-skinny people? Probably not (unless you work at 90210). There is a mix of people; super-skinny, fat and everything in between. It's the same with race.

Amy Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:21 PM EST

I agree that the 90210 girls are way too thin. And saying that they're just naturally that thin is kind of ridiculous. If you've seen anything else that these girls have been in, you can see that they've gotten much thinner... and grosser...

I think the girls on Gossip Girl look great. Jenny is a quite thin, but she's the only character on either of these shows who is actually the age she's suppossed to be. At 16, a lot of girls are skinny and kind of gangly. By the early 20s, which all of these girls are, they should have filled out.

**I think it's pretty funny that one of the sponsored links on the bottom of the page is for "Lose Weight with Jillian". :)

sanen85 Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 01:35 PM EST

About the person that says women would believe a man more on what would be considered attractive, I'm not sure why you think that. Considering that men are exposed to their own opinion and maybe that of their friends, they obviously know what they find attractive. But, as I a woman I am hit on like a minimum of 5 times a day by all types of men; young, old, black, white, asian, mexican, african, etc. I also have male friends who will happily tell me who they think is "hot". Personally, I feel that I am more exposed to what men find attractive than you are and I'm sure that a lot of women are in the same boat. So if you do the math, I get a crapload more perspectives than you do. Just saying. Also, let's look at some of the woman that are considered the "hottest" women on the planet; Beyonce, Kim Kardashian, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Lopez, etc. Most of the women on that list are not tiny. Your opinion is just 1 in a sea of others.

Valerie Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 01:04 PM EST

Sure, they eat cheeseburgers all the time...but, do they keep them down? Or, are those cheeseburgers in the toilet shortly thereafter?

Jeffrey Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:30 PM EST

One more little point: the high-school age characters on 90210 are going to be skinny because that's the aesthetic of the show (rather obviously). The women (grown-ups) on Mad Men are going to be heavier because that body type was popular and desirable (that is, in pop culture) in the 1950's. In both cases this is casting to fit the concept of the show. Don't blame 90210 for an overarching cultural phenomenon of idealizing heroin chic. If this physical type wasn't emulated in the culture overall, 90210 wouldn't be following it. And you can hardly expect a show about Beverly Hills high schoolers to lead the charge toward zaftig body types.

Jeffrey Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:26 PM EST

Someone below said women might believe a man more than other women when it comes to desirable body types. Well, I'm a man and 40 years old so I've known a lot of women and known a lot of men (therefore privy to their opinion of women). Most men do not like super-skinny women. There's nothing wrong with a woman who's a little lean or thin, but super-skinny women are not appealing to men. For my own tastes, I certainly like "a little meat" on a girl, that is to say a girl with a slightly athletic built but not overly-muscled (in other words, not a too-much-time-at-the-gym body). If the wrist is the thickest part of the arm, if ribs are showing, it's pretty gross. And I definitely like and admire girls who can eat and love food. Starving yourself is not appealing. Just one man's humble opinion.

Nix Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM EST

It's probably already been observed, but part of the problem is that the viewing audience for both 90210 and GG do not seem to be old enough or mature enough to understand true critical thinking. They think they understand irony, but only the rusty kind, and their sarcasm is still the mean-girl sort. The characters here, like the rich girls and waterpolo boys of The OC a graduated class ago, are not meant to be admired or emulated, but at best pitied. It's interesting that GG and The OC share a creator, but Schwartz's kind, humane irony has been severely blunted in having to adapt the pre-existing GG series. And the new 90210 brings it back full circle.

Jeffrey Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:21 PM EST

Nobody who has anything to do with television or fashion or reporting on television or fashion has any right criticizing the unhealthy body images those industries generate. How can you point a finger at behavior you propagate?

Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM EST

The show SUCKS! They should of just left 90210 alone to good memories.

Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM EST

I was waiting for someone to say something about how skinny these girls are. I was disgusted when i saw how skinny they are...its doesnt look good at all! I just can't even imagine what they look like in real life since the camera adds 5-10lbs.

randy Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:40 AM EST

These girls make Jennie Garth look like Carnie Wilson.

If I hear any of them spouting off to the media about how they eat dessert with every meal of three cheeseburgers a day, I will punch someone.

David Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:11 AM EST

Not enought people watch for it to matter. EW treats this show like it's the hottest thing on TV.

Joseph Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:03 AM EST

Stroup is the one with the OBVIOUS problem. Get help. All of you. (This show might not last so get healthy BEFORE you get your pink-slips.)


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