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We listened so you don't have to: The 'Idol' songwriting competition

Ashleyferl_l Michael Slezak: So Adam, it's the final day of voting for the American Idol Songwriting competition,. You ready to dive into the land of "I Believe This Is My Moment Like This Inside Your Now"? (Ew.)
Adam B. Vary: Yes. And thank you for diving with me -- last year I think I was the only one on staff to listen to (and rate) all 20 songs in the Idol competition, and while I correctly predicted that "This Is My Now" was the only song that was even near "good" enough to win, it nearly killed me.
Slezak: I cannot even begin to fathom how heinous those other 19 songs sounded.
ABV: I seem to recall one or two that were about suicide. By the way, you gotta register first before you can vote.
Slezak: Gack.
ABV: I know. Because voting for the finale song needs to be fair and scientific. Whereas speed dialing for the actual winner of the show is totally fine.
Slezak: Indeed! Okay, just got the confirmation email. So first up: "When You Come from Nothing." No effing way I am voting for a song with that title.
 ABV: So this woman's stuck in the crowd, but won't give in to her doubts. Or doubts in general.
Slezak
I have doubts about my ability to get through 19 more songs. Shall we move on?
ABV: You've got to believe in something when you come from nothing, Slezak.
ABV: Having heard the 20 mostly ballad-y songs from last year, I'm actually gonna give this poor downtrodden lady 5 stars (out of 10) for being uptempo.
Slezak: I give it one star.
ABV: You're gonna be wishing for negative ratings soon.

ABV: Okay! "No Turning Back."
Slezak: Already a better title.
Slezak: I hear guitars! David Cook fans will be all atwitter.
ABV: I'm actually not hating this.
Slezak: It's not completely tragic, you're right!
ABV: I'm kinda loving how it's not about winning American Idol. It seems like it's about not turning back from a bad relationship?
Slezak: All good Idol finale songs should be about A) winning Idol; B) a relationship; C) belief in a higher power
Slezak: ALL AT ONCE.
Slezak: I give this one a 7.
ABV: I'm at 8.
Slezak: Okay, me too -- 8 it is!
ABV: Next up, "You Believed In Me." Not to be confused with "You Believe In Me."
Slezak: Are you kidding me that there is a "You Believed in Me" and a "You Believe in Me"?
ABV: No.
Slezak: Ugh.
ABV: And yet another song about being downtrodden.
Slezak: Okay, I hate "You Believed In Me" already.
ABV: I sense a theme. "There were times I was so low, I reached up to touch the ground." Uplifting!
Slezak: Any song that opens with the line "Life can have so many ups and downs" gets a 2! Next!
ABV: I'm at a 3.
Slezak: "Thank You Whatever Comes." This is the jankiest song title in the history of "Celebrate Me Home."
ABV: First line: "I was a loner and a roamer."
Slezak: Sorry, I was so bored I started checking email.
ABV: Hey, a choir!
Slezak: The melody is not excruciating.
 ABV: And it fills all three of your requirements, but I'm still at a four.
Slezak: Okay, I'm giving this one a 5. Only because she also watched her bridges burn, which is a very controversial thing to do for an Idol.
ABV: It would've been a great song for Kristy Lee.
ABV: And we're to our next song, "Believe," which is an R&B joint.
Slezak: They can't choose "Believe" because 'Tasia's joint was "I Believe." That's just too confusing
Slezak: We both used "joint"!
ABV: Because we're hip, Slezak. Like this song. (That was sarcasm.)
Slezak: I reserve the right to give this song a 1, just because.
ABV: "If you believe it, See you can do anything." Looks like someone's read The Secret.
Slezak: I believe this song has no chance of winning! And I believe I am moving on to the next song.
ABV: I'm at a 3.
Slezak: 1 for me!
ABV: "Overcome."
 ABV: "'Cause I lost myself in front of me." The metaphysical implications!
Slezak: HA! He's like Gob on Arrested Development.
Slezak: I'm giving this a 2.
ABV: Before I rate, I need to print the entire chorus:
Slezak: Nooooo! Don't do that to me!
ABV: "And I have overcome / I've changed my ways / Look what I've become / And I stood up for myself / Forgotten what I've lost / Look what I've done / I have overcome"
Slezak: So many words, and yet it all adds up to nothing.
ABV: People need to understand why this is my first 1.
Slezak: Next up, "Faith"
Slezak: I swear these songs are all generated from an inspirational cliché generator.
ABV: Yep! Nigel Lythgoe keeps it in his office.
ABV: I'm beginning to feel really bad for the session musicians who have to perform these songs.
Slezak: This song completely made me zone out, which means it has a really good chance of winning.
ABV: There's a song playing?
Slezak: "Song" -- they are stretching the definition of the word
ABV: The chorus: "With faith you know we can't be afraid to fall / Love will carry us through / And hey, looks like we made it after all / Look what faith can do, it led me to you."
Slezak: This song is all about searching, and the road, and choices, and finding something, and faith!
ABV: You know, it's not atrocious.
 Slezak: The chorus is kind of rousing.
Slezak: I hate myself for writing that.
ABV: Grading on a steep curve, this is a 5 for me.
Slezak: This song gives me feelings of deep self-loathing and I give it a 6.
ABV: And the music is building -- I can see the confetti now.
Slezak: If Carly gets to sing it, I will probably cry.
ABV: Okay, I'm bumping up to a six.
Slezak: And onto the next song...only 13 more to go!
Slezak: "Dream Big"
Slezak: AWESOME title.
ABV:
First lines: "When I was a little girl / I swore that I would change the world."
ABV: Girl/world.
Slezak: YES! "These days I just can't seem to find the child in me / Who always believed"
Slezak: Have you heard enough?
 ABV: The story seems to be "I was a wretch, but then I won American Idol."
Slezak: I'd have more respect for this song if it was called "Clichés."
Slezak: I give it a 2.
ABV: Yes, a 2.
Slezak: We have to move on. My will to live is fading.
ABV: "Something Like Heaven."
Slezak: Pretty intro on this one.
ABV: Seriously?
Slezak: Okay, not anymore.
ABV: First lyric: "I've said goodbye to the boy that I once knew."
 Slezak: Goodbye, boy!
Slezak: Is HE the BOY?
ABV: I sure hope so. Otherwise, it's a song about a disturbing Big Brother.
Slezak: An angel came knocking at his door. What if it's the angel of death?
ABV: These lyrics are really creeping me out.
ABV: "I've said goodbye to the boy that I once knew / He is not himself 'cause loving you / Makes me feel like someone new." Chorus: "How did I find something like heaven / And in your eyes is something like heaven / Your touch defined feels something like heaven tonight / With you I feel something divine."
Slezak: It's all very "Wings of Desire." I give this song a 1.
ABV: Yes, one star for me too. If I could rate a zero, I would.
 ABV: "Only Love." This is the first song I could hear Jason Castro singing.
Slezak: "Don't you backslide / to the dark side"
ABV: Yeesh.
Slezak: Clearly this songwriter has never known the pleasure of backsliding to the dark side
ABV: Oh! We've got a "Na Na Na Na" chorus! It just went up one star.
ABV: "Only love can change the world," Slezak, and for Jason Castro's sake, I'm throwing down a 7.
Slezak: I agree "Na na na na" is an automatic bonus point. Therefore I give this weird little ditty a 4.
Slezak: And with that, we're halfway through.
Slezak: I'm having a flashback to last week's 30 Rock, where Liz Lemon describes her feelings of love and Jenna says it sounds like she's describing the sensation of freezing to death.
ABV: Which seems like a perfect segue to "You Believe In Me."
ABV: (P.S. Until freshman year of college, I thought "segue" and "segway" were two different words.)
 Slezak: Segue looks like it should be another word for legumes.
ABV: Do you see, Popwatchers, what this task has done to us? We're literally driven to nuts! Or at least nut-like foods! And bad jokes about nut-like foods!
ABV: Meanwhile, we've got our first Mariah-esque chimes.
Slezak: "My spirit's finally free/ 'cause you believe in me"
ABV: I'm no longer a wretch! Thank you America!
Slezak: Is it a requirement that every song mentions a road or a journey?
ABV: Actually, Slezak, the lyric is "cuz you believe in me."
Slezak: This song wasn't half as horrid when it was called "I'm Everything I Am (Because You Loved Me)." And even that was awful. I give it a 2.
ABV: Yes, a 2, and this song is so early '90s we need to move on before I regress to middle school.
Slezak: (I wish I could give it one and a half)
Slezak: Next up, "In This Moment." Again, a song title too close to a former Idol coronation song: "A Moment Like This."
ABV: The singer has a kind of a whiny alt-rock voice.
Slezak: Totally. And he's basically whining to his mother. Who never believed in him (I think).
ABV: "Mother, can you hear me, for the first time I see / born into eyes not by my own decision / take me away from a life with no vision / step down from the subway, / climb the staircase to the street / spinning in circles and holding on tight / to this moment forever / if only tonight"
ABV:
Have any of these writers heard of therapy?
 ABV: Or Cute Overload?
Slezak: Hello, I am gonna set my clock for one hour and charge him $150 for making me listen to this dreck. It gets a 1.
ABV: But this is one of the most David Cook-friendly melodies. So I'm voting 3.
Slezak: "Align"! Hot title. (relatively speaking)
ABV: Okay, we have our first awesomely bad lyrics: "It took a long time / To put a man up on the moon / It took a long time / To get past me to get to you."
ABV: We must move on. It's actively making me hate music.
ABV: Slezak, are you there? Has this song killed you?
Slezak: Sorry, that was the sound of me dying inside.
Slezak: I give this a 3...because there's a pretty long instrumental part.
ABV: For a singing competition. You're brain's been warped, clearly. Because there is no minus 5, I rate a 1.
ABV: So hopefully the next song, "Stronger," will make me, you know, stronger.
Slezak: I wish this was Cher's song "Strong Enough."
ABV: Or, heck, even Britney's "Stronger."
Slezak: "Life can be so mean" is a terrible lyric -- especially when rhymed with "machine."
ABV: "You've settled in to strugglin', barely getting by."
 Slezak: Call 911! I am being assaulted by a song!!
ABV: Just click on the one star and move on!
Slezak: Yes!
Slezak: "All You Will Need"
Slezak: I don't immediately loathe this. For starters, it's not totally mopey
ABV: In that the melody doesn't immediately require anti-depressives, yes.
ABV: To an uptempo rock beat: "Seems to me you've put chains around your heart and locked it away / By doing this you hope no one will see your lonely pain."
ABV: I could see Carly doing well with this song, actually.
Slezak: She also references prison guards and one-room jails. Edgy! (Again, relatively.)
Slezak: I'm giving this a 10, because just like Carly, it will never win.
ABV: Okay, even though its lyrics yet again make me think of in-patient psychiatric care, I'm going with a 7.
Slezak: I am voting for the Carly finale that will never happen.
Slezak: "Fly Me Away" -- also an automatic DQ for its similarity to "Flying Without Wings."
ABV: Wow -- a 30 second piano and strings intro.
Slezak: I can't help but think of Amanda Overmyer's famous quote: "Ballads are boring!"
ABV: "Flying on a wing and a prayer / Fly me from despair."
 Slezak: Fly Me Away from this songwriting competition! I am giving it a 2 and moving on.
ABV: Popwatchers, we promise, we're not being snarky for snarky's sake here. These songs are just that awful.
Slezak: Seriously, this is the musical equivalent of watching I Know Who Killed Me.
ABV: I'm at a 3. I don't know why. But let's fly away from this song.
ABV: To "You Can Do Anything."
 Slezak: I wonder how much money the winner of this competition makes.
ABV: Enough for a year of intensive therapy, I hope.
Slezak: Next year I say we poop out a horrible shlocky ballad and win the Idol Songwriting competition.
ABV:
Popwatchers, rating these songs just made Slezak say "poop."
Slezak: Is it possible this is the worst song in the bunch? "You can find your own star/ Reach any height"?
ABV: I have no ability to differentiate any more.
ABV: But, yes, 1, make it stop, 1, 1, 1, 1!
Slezak: I give it a 1 as well. This honestly could play over the closing credits of an Olsen twins' direct-to-DVD release.
ABV: No, not good enough.
Slezak: Ha ha! Adam watches Olsen twins movies!
Slezak: God, listening to his music is making me mean, just like drinking gin! Let's move to "We're Gonna Make It." With only three songs left, do you think we will?
ABV: We will, I promise.
Slezak: I might make it, but I have to take a Pepto Bismol first.
ABV: Okay, this is my favorite lyric so far: "We both know this was not gonna be easy / All these demons telling us we're stupid crazy."
ABV: Stupid crazy. That is exactly how I feel. In this moment.
Slezak: DEMONS!
Slezak: The demons tell me to give this song a 9!
ABV: NO! RESIST!
Slezak: I...I...I can't! The demons have taken control of the keyboard.
ABV: But, actually, am I stupid crazy, or is it not that bad?
Slezak: In the name of all that's holy, this 20-song exercise has completely whittled away my ability to tell what's good and what's bad.
ABV: I think this is pretty good.
Slezak: It's not awful, for sure.
ABV: Let me put it this way: It certainly suits David Cook better than Archuleta.
Slezak: Totally.
ABV: And, whoa, it's the first song we actually listened the whole way through.
ABV: So I'm going 8.
ABV: Demons, you win.
Slezak: Okay, time for "Here I Am." And the opening line is "I've been searchin', never findin'"
ABV: "And I never understood why" music like this can exist.
Slezak: Because none of these people are allowed to have a moment of emotional or spiritual fulfillment prior to making it to the final two. Idol = Life.
Slezak: That whole vibe offends me, as does this wretched pabulum. I give it a 2.
ABV: I was at a 2, but then I got to the second lyric, and this interesting string production kicked in, and kicked me up to a 5. Also, it's one of the only songs in which I've detected power notes.
ABV: Surprisingly so.
Slezak: I will take your word for it as I move on to "The Time of My Life"
ABV: Because we've had the time of our lives doing this?
Slezak: And Adam, I must thank you for cajoling me into joining you on this journey.
ABV: I'm just glad we're on different coasts, so you don't have to show your...gratitude in person.
 Slezak: Literally, this song contains the phrase "magic rainbow." That is AWESOME.
Slezak: I want David Archuleta to sing about the "Magic Rainbow" as little faeries and hummingbirds are dropped from the Nokia ceiling.
ABV: Nice old school spelling of faeries.
Slezak: Thank you.
ABV: That is the only comment I have for this song. After 19 songs, it literally sounds like this to me: "WaablahblahblahBLAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Waa woo hoo BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
 Slezak: It does!
Slezak: I give this song a 5. Just for being last.
ABV: Yes, I'm going 5, because it certainly isn't the song's fault for going last.
Slezak: Okay, I am going to log off and go to the gym immediately to try to sweat these heinoustries out of my system.
ABV: Good luck, good sir. Me, I think I'm going to blast Rufus Wainwright for the next five hours to clean out my ears.
ABV: And brain.
ABV: And soul.
Slezak: I might have to play some Ludacris.
ABV: That works too.

Wissphoto Sun, May 11, 2008 at 04:18 PM EST

OMG. It's just a song. Everyone knows it's going to be corny and not memorable. The only song I remember is Kelly's because it was actually good. In the end, even if you have connections to get a song chosen, the public still has to vote on it. May the best song or most popular song win. In the end, I don't care, I'm not going out to buy the that song, I just want to buy some of the cd's that the idols will eventually be putting out.

K. from Portland Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:00 AM EST

I just finished judging a teen poetry/writing competition and I felt exactly the same way. Every poem overflowed with cliches, boring sentiments, and zero structure. I agonized over how to say a positive word about something so horrible. After my fellow judge finished reading the "poetry", she came in, touched my arm and gave me that look of mutual shared suffering knowing I had not exaggerated the torture.

Stella Thu, May 1, 2008 at 01:20 PM EST

I LOVE YOU BOTH! Thanks for a fun analysis!

StanDarnell Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM EST

KJMWEB@fcc.gov
Kevin J. Martin is the head of the FCC. If anyone is interested in asking the FCC to make sure anything that is broadcast on the airwaves owned by WE THE PEOPLE is legitimate.

StanDarnell Thu, May 1, 2008 at 08:13 AM EST

American Idol is the QUIZ SHOW scandal of the 21st Century. If you have a songwriting contest run on Tv where you have at least one weird coincidence, conflict of interest and darn poor judgement on the part of some Tv executives rolled into one, what else are they fooling with? The great United States of America needs a national media that we can trust to be open and honest and above suspicion. Now I am worried about FOX news too. Some else asked, WHERE IS THE FCC? Where is a single line Congressperson who is a PRFILE IN COURAGE? Asleep at the wheel as the watchdogs for the American consumers of information, it would seem. Save us FCC from suspicion at the very least and restore confidence!!!

RobertFox Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:08 PM EST

Sandra- As I read your post from a logical point of view. I see you making some assumptions about some people's motives or their current accomplishments or lack thereof. Unless you know them, from a pure debating point of view, your credibility is diminished. Those people who are asking for accountability appear to be asking reasonable questions. I looked it up on the internet and Ryan Gilmor is in the American Idol songwriting finals and has written or at least sings the song for a new FOX TV show. That is an undeniable fact. In any company I've worked for that's a clear conflict of interest. If some of these people are asking for accountability and if it hasn't been provided, it seems to me that you cannot denigrate their character or motives or make assumptions about their lives. Some very accomplished people demand fairness and accountability.

DannyT Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 06:22 PM EST

I disagree Sandra and I think you misunderstand what some of those people are saying. They are just asking for accountability and that means outside auditing. I would ask you if you think its needed and if it has been provided?

Sandra Guzman Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 06:05 PM EST

Amen to earlier comment by Anne Chow...
and here's my two cents...

It's incredible to me that some of you are so negative and bitter that you find the need to tear down the winning writers and their songs and the AI Songwriting contest in general. If you all spent as much energy improving your own songwriting abilities and working on getting your own songs out there and less energy trying to spread unsubstantiated accusations and degrade artists that have worked their entire lives to finally be recognized for their accomplishement, perhaps you too might have your song chosen by AI, or have a slew of hits out there being recorded.
It's a sad state, that just because your song wasn't chosen, you accuse a contest of being rigged...My friend 's song was chosen and I can assure you that he has no connection in any way to American Idol or Fox. Spreading your negative energy because you are a sore loser will only hurt you as you will only attract more negativity and things to complain about

yancyjem Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM EST

Just my guesses as of today and I have no special knowledge. Perry Smith is announced as the winner of the AI song contest at the finale. Ryan Gillmor gets his record deal, if he doesn't already have one. For some reason when I just posted my guesses on the AI forum, they were deleted along with the entire thread.

desi Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:34 AM EST

I was laughing so hard I was crying while I read this. I'm sure that everyone near me in this library thinks I'm insane now but that's fine.

uBright Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 AM EST

yup
just look at the Byron Zanos and Dae Bennett connection last year. Secrets&Lies a Top 20 song? LOL. and the FOX and Gillmor connection IN THIS MOMENT and the television show UNHITCHED this year.
Among other funny coincidences this year and last. This contest has the potential of being the greatest television scandal in American history!

follow the evidence

bettymody Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 07:52 AM EST

It's more than just a simple contest. It's about the responsibility that comes with a FCC license and the Public Trust. I have come to distrust this contest based on a few examples with reasonable facts. The additional fact that American Idol has refused to ever provide reasonable explanations is interesting, don't you think? I call on Fremantle and FOX to show leadership and remedy this situation before the FCC and Congress gets involved. If anyone is angry or disappointed in any way, I suggest you focus your attention on the American Idol executive staff for failing to provide reasonable answers to reasonable questions for the two contest years. I hope this isn't "Quiz Show". When you have a paid contest on TV there needs to be accountability and the simple fact is that we haven't seen any. Please don't blame those of us who ask for it for the benefit of the General Public.

Marie to Bettymody Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:32 PM EST

Thanks for the clarification, Betty. I agree and would love to celebrate the talent/success of those who strive and make it. Yet, it is becoming hard to do when so much on American Idol is done in secret and behind the scenes. It is no wonder their ratings are consistently down. Thanks for your clarity and insight on this matter.

bettymody Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 05:43 PM EST

Marie, it was actually $10 both years. The issues and controversy stem from two basic questions which were asked by others: How did American Idol get from thousands of paid entries to 20 in some detail? And is the public entitled to know? In the USA when you have a paying contest held on a FCC Licensed TV station, what do you think? There have ben selections where at the very least a conflict of interest may exist. For two years many contestants have been asking for some accountability or reasonable outside audit and I've never seen any. If we've missed it, tell us. The real question is why we haven't seen it? If American Idol will not step forward and show that they have run a clean contest for two years, then I call on FreMantle and FOX to show some leadership. If they won't, I call on the FCC and Congress. These companies are members of the "4th estate", be responsible! This is more than just about a contest. If they had provided info, everyone would celebrate their Final 20.

Marie Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:42 PM EST

Amen on that, Betty! AI producers, however, suffer from arrogance and a strong case of "control freak" to ever disclose the most reasonable of detail. I find it hard to believe they could take $25 from each hopeful contestant. Where has that money gone? Into the Idol Gives Back pot? I think not.

bettymody Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:33 PM EST

I understand your point Ann. No one likes trouble or controversy. I implore American Idol to "open the books" on their songwriting contest and show the world that it has been a clean contest for two years. Ann, there are too many details to go into here. In essence do you think it is unreasonable for American Idol to be secretive about a paying contest on a FCC licensed TV station? That is the essence of the argument and there are too many bizzare selections out of thousands perhaps tens of thousands of entries. I see people asking simple reasonable questions, not sour grapes. I again implore American Idol to "open the books" on the selection process the last two years so Ann and I and everyone can truly celebrate for everyone!

ann chow Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:21 PM EST

After reading all the comments, I can't help thinking that there are so many cry babies and bad sports in this forum. All these people who have sent in a song have worked hard on it and have hopes and dreams like everyone has. Why do you people treat each other so miserably? Can't you wish them all well for their effort and dreams? For those of you who have tried and don't win, at least you tried. For those of you who are so small spirited to degrade others, I feel sorry for you. I wish you songwriters all good luck and the winner, congratulation.

yancyjem Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM EST

Now that is funny and predictable. The thread "how we enter contest and when" has been permanently deleted by the American Idol thought police. Just deleted if you follow the normal links in and NOT the link below.

However, their moderator has not yet figured out how to delete the direct link below. It is the only way you can see it.

But again, if you didn't not use it and went into their forums any other way, you would see that they just deleted it. Why??????

yancyjem Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM EST

censored or deleted that is. Screen cap and print it. It gives you enough information to see how far down the rabbit hole goes. I can't believe that American Idol never answered any of the questions on this thread last year or this. American Idol/Entertainment19/FreMantle and by association FOX. Would you want them telling you what's going on in the world if they won't even tell you how they ran a simple contest?

yancyjem Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:05 AM EST

http://www.americanidol.com/myidol/forums/topic/?tid=920681&page=2

Check this link and thread out before it gets consored by the American Idol thought police.

Marley Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:49 AM EST

Something tells me the Season 7 Finale will be the lowest ratings season EVAH! The producers have no clue how to get their ratings back up. Just keep giving us more schlocky finale songs, drawn out results shows, lies about the professional connections contestants have with the judges/producers, lies about the scam songwriting contest, etc..... Nigel, is your skull that thick? Why not just stop lying to the American audience, you brit bast***.

dARA STEWART Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:21 AM EST

re: thank you whatever comes being the "jankiest" title..I mean really....Step outside of your cliche box and find some creative juice in there somewhere and maybe you will understand the title.

dARA STEWART Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:17 AM EST

re: thank you whatever comes being the "jankiest" title..I mean really....Step outside of your cliche box and find some creative juice in there somewhere and maybe you will understand the title.

dARA STEWART Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:16 AM EST

re: thank you whatever comes being the "jankiest" title..I mean really....Step outside of your cliche box and find some creative juice in there somewhere and maybe you will understand the title.

annhope Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:01 AM EST

You gave IN THIS MOMENT a 1. How is that? The same person wrote the FOX TV theme song for UNHITCHED. AMERICAN IDOL IS ON FOX. Is your judgement better than FOX AND AMERICAN IDOL?

meg Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 09:32 PM EST

Wow. You guys are the effing bomb dot com! I thought I was an outcast listening to the 20 songs, too...but definately i'm rooting for "No Turning Back" for my beloved Cooky.

Lisa Warner Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM EST

Aw, you guys just slay me. Idol is so much more exciting with a side of Slezak. So...is it "We're Gonna Make It" for the win? Loves me some crazy daemons (see, I'm all old-school, too).

Cookie Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:25 PM EST

I listened to all of the songs--many all the way through, believe it or not! After it was all over I realized my criteria for voting: if I hovered around my computer and did a little aerobics (to lose weight, ya know), I voted higher. If I headed off to continue loading the dishwasher,however, however, I'd give the song 5 or below. Overall I rated some way high if I thought they'd be good for DC and way way low if I thought they'd freeze out DA...again without really realizing it!

songgirl Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:26 AM EST

Very funny! What's also funny is that out of tens of thousands of songs they pick one with a very long intro which is supposed to be taboo for demo's but was written by a person who wrote the new Fox tv show song? That story and others are true. There are even more coincidences. How can that happen? We might have gotten better songs?

toowhat Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:12 AM EST

Funny? A lot of you think this guy or these guys are funny? Yikes. You should be sentanced to watching 1 hour of Richard Pryor or Robin Williams. As the level of what is considered humor dropped this low? It's almost worse than the songs. I am interested to see if they follow-up on Bob's story.

Magic Rainbows Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 01:15 AM EST

I listened to the songs too, and like you, Slezak and Adam, I couldn't take it. The only song that I thought was *OKAY* (and I use that lightly) was the song that you guys sorta liked, "No Turning Back." However, this aricle made me laugh. I loved the part about David singing the song and little hummingbirds and faeries descending from the Nokia theater's rafters, while singing about magic rainbows. I see that too. Thnx for the laugh.

whoopseedaisy Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:56 PM EST

heinoustries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am in love with this column. 10

MissChief Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:46 PM EST

Last year I was so disgusted w/the offerings that I sat down and wrote the sappiest, cheeziest song I could think of, to have ready for this year. My faith was restored a little in that mine was not one of the 20, but either these were no homegrown basement entries, or they cleaned 'em up with the AI band and neglected to remove the "judge the song, not the singer" disclaimer. These trax were all ready for prime time...
Anyway, your column induced gales, bravo, and everybody else's commentaries are just so much "WaablahblahblahBLAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Waa woo hoo BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
p.s. 'pablum' and 'pabulum' are both legit words...

Kathy Cardinale Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:40 PM EST

I totally agree with you guys. Idol seems to go for drippy, cliched 'here she comes Miss America' pagaent-type songs and it was waaaay too painful being forced to listen to every miserable song ALL THE WAY THROUGH just to vote for one. It also seems totally not credible to us that the 19 Entertainment judges actually listened to all 40,000 songs submitted, no less listened to the top 20 they picked ALL THE WAY THROUGH either, BUT because they had a little edgier show this year with rockers in the line-up, we took a chance and wrote and entered an edgy, dynamic rock song that would make a great single and commercial hit...did it make the top 20? NOPE...guess 19 Entertainment made enough money on the 40,000 $10 song submissions they got, so maybe they don't need a hit song to sell, but you can check out our song BABY LET's GO for yourselves on our myspace profile at: myspace.com/americanidolseason6songwritercontestants or go to youtube.com/watch?v=bFKQ1PD8lrs

Jason Phelps Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 04:21 PM EST

I sincerely hope this was an attempt to stir up some dust...I thought your comments were entertaining and won't take them personally. I co-wrote "Stronger' and my co-writer, Mendy Shaw (vocalist on the demo) was just offered a record deal on monday. At least the opinions that matter have good taste ; )

AMK0227 Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 04:17 PM EST

ok so i'm sitting at a desk at my internship and everyone is so quiet and i'm trying to bite my lip from laughing but i can't help myself ..Thank you for that ..it was hysterical ..What makes it even funnier is that i actually registered to vote for the song-writing contest the other night and i experienced the same thing ..i can't believe one of those songs is going to be played on the radio in a few months ..I wasn't as brave as the 2 of you were though b/c i couldn't even sit through all the songs ..i actually feel slightly bad for whoever wins based on the songs i listened to ..i thought "align" was the best..

GeekyMommy Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:24 PM EST

Thank you Slezak, for brining back the word "dreck". Well done, sir.

pepsichevrolet Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:06 PM EST

Like, if there was a reality show called Coastal Wit and contestants had to compete in pairs, and like each week they were given a different task,I think that you two would totally take it the week where you had to discuss crappy pop culture. Unless maybe Michael Ian Black was on one of the other teams. He's cute.

Mary Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 01:25 PM EST

Just like ktpea, I'm a teacher in the middle of state testing who had to shut myself up while reading this. It was hilarious. The unfortunate thing is, it seems as though we are headed toward yet another lame, possibly awkward, definitely ridiculous finale song choice. Bummer.

Michelle Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 01:17 PM EST

that was the funniest thing i've read in a LONG time.

ktpea Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM EST

in the middle of CA state testing (i'm a teacher) and had to stop reading because I was giggling...no, laughing...too hard and was distracting my kids! Thanks!!!

SmilingBob Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:43 PM EST

Adam V. Vary, purveror of wit. I challenge you to rise above the level of "Class Clown" (a noble beginning for many) and investigate the story mentioned below. No more from me, the idea is set, I can do no more.
Unfortunately, at this point, you are going to need a congressional aide as your partner.

Behind all, if not most wit, lies a penetrating intelligence. I trust it is within you.

Eve Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM EST

Therllll come a time
when looking back from up ahead
I'll remember how I felt this mommmment
The thrill I felt
the moving saced, pictures of this
Mommmment........
There how did I do..wrote right on the spot,,,can you believe it?
LOL

Emily & Neil Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:46 AM EST

Slezak and ABV - Your witty banter has made our day. Maybe our lives. We would like to take you out for many beers.

SmilingBob Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM EST

Vin,
Close but no cigar. I am not ready to accuse anyone of rigging anything. I do say that there is reasonable doubt as to the veracity of the contest and AmericanIdol/Entertainment19/FreMantle have been unreasonable in their apparent desire to provide details. How exactly did they get from 25,000 paid entries to 20? Why have they been afraid of this question for 2 years? This organization is a WORLD MEDIA GIANT people. The general public cannot turn a blind eye to POSSIBLE wrongdoing when it comes to the 4th estate. Wake up and just demand answers. They may be good answers. If they are, why weren't they told last year or this. I've give you all one simple immediately verifiable fact: one of the 20 wrote the theme for a brand new FOX TV show.
Follow the breadcrumbs and do the planet a favor.

Barnsinger Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM EST

Choosing the winner's all-important first single, the one that catapults them from talent search contestant to legit recording artist, from an amateur songwriting contest, especially one in which America votes on the winner, is all kinds of wrong. The winner's single should be selected or commissioned by the show producers from a professional industry publishing house. Otherwise, the winner never makes that vital transition, and it's just one contest winner singing a song by another contest winner.

Vin Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM EST

The contest is RIGGED. Do a google search for american idol songwriting scam and you'll see a few sites that post all the info you will need.

Much of this info was in the American Idol forums, but the moderators keep deleting for the cover-up.

SmilingBob Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:08 AM EST

Sorry about the typos/grammatical mistakes below. I'm used to asking a couple of simple civil questions with regards some detail about how American Idol got from 25,000 paid entries to 20 and having it deleted with minutes if not seconds. They are the new Thought Police.

anonymous Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:05 AM EST

I'm listening to "Ever Ever After" by Carrie Underwood (Enchanged soundtrack) as I read this. The song is corny and yet fun and catchy, and I could easily have seen her singing this on a stage with confetti whirling around her as that "inside your heaven" tripe. Which only goes to show that a song COULD be written to fit the show and all its cheesiness and still be a decent pop tune--and yet they still give twenty tunes that have probably most recently graced the pages of a 13-year-old's notebook.

WildKAT Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:02 AM EST

Drek and more Drek. WHY do the producers want amateurs to write these finale songs when there are thousands of talented REAL songwriters capable of doing a much better job. Hire one of Josh Groban's songwriters for heaven's sake. He has never recorded drek.

jm Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:47 AM EST

I can honestly say I have never spit more than while reading this column (that is actually a compliment). Also, I have to thank you for bringing up the memory of cracking everyone up w/ my enthusiastic singing of "boo-jez" (for "boughs") during "Deck the Halls". As a small child, of course...
For the fiercest schtick I will read today, I give you both hella snaps in a "w" (for wack) formation.

SmilingBob Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:42 AM EST

When you have a Media Giant, running a contest where people pay money to enter and no outside accounting firm audits? Where no information about the selection process is made available to the public in either of the two years this contest was run? There are too many inconsistences this year and last. American Idol censors these questions from their forum boards and deletes posts in way that their parent companies would scream if any governement did the same to them. Any Woodwards and Bersteins out there? This one is potential a career maker. All I say is that there are reasonable doubts about the veracity of the contest. Do you think its unreasonsable to ask for accountability?

SmilingBob Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:35 AM EST

The authors have totally missed the point. The real story is in how this contest was run and how American Idol got from 25,000 paid entried to 20 final. A story that should be investigated by Congress. A contest run by a Media Giant, where are conflict of interest issues (the writer of In This Moment, wrote a FOX Tv Show theme) this year and last. No accountablility and why? That is the $64,000 question.

Steve Z Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM EST

"You Believed In Me/ You Believe in Me"...

Is any song that is actually a quote from a Kirsten Dunst movie actually a strong choice for song-writing?

It's nice to see that the influence of "Bring it On" can still be felt today... isn't it?

wtf Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:25 AM EST

Meant "let America vote." And "You believed in me"?! That sounds like Sally Fields Oscar speech "you like me! you really, really like me!" yikes...

wtf Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:23 AM EST

The contestants should be able to CHOOSE what song they want to sing. Yeah, let American vote for one, but let the contestants choose. Bad enough they actually have to sing one of 'em... (Painful to read you talking about it - can't imagine actually listening to the songs.)

Dan Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:20 AM EST

that was wonderful. My new catchphrase: "WaablahblahblahBLAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Waa woo hoo BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!" thanks, guys.

lala1215 Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM EST

Adam and Sleeze, I give you both so much credit, I couldn't read anymore after Align. My eyes are burning!

jar Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:09 AM EST

I started to evaluate the songs this year--I got through them all once and had my little rating system going... but I never summoned the courage to get back on and rate them. Last year, it seemed there was one clear winner--like the producers/top 20 choosers surrounded that one with lesser songs. This time, there's no clear stand out. I did like that "one love" song for Jason, but wouldn't want it for the finale, just for his own album. didn't fit anyone else. This year the contestants are so varied and we know their personalities much more, that it's hard to get one song that everyone could sing.
I was telling my husband that they should do it like they do Project Runway... It was cool to read what that other poster mentioned. (read estab1971's post).

But also, I can't believe that they received such crappy songs. THESE are the TOP 20!?!?!?!?!?!?

How many submissions did they get? 20?

Surely they can do better. Is there a backlash from the music community?

Mu-shoo Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:35 AM EST

Ahhh. Reading this makes me hate my job a little less. Thanks for flying me from dispair and saving me from my lonely pain. Na na na na na na indeed.

Stephanie T. Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:34 AM EST

Elizabeth! Yes! That was totally ripped off from The GAH theme song! Someone should alert Stephen Geyger the lyricist who wrote the theme.

(Chorus)

"Believe it or not,
I'm walking on air.
I never thought I could feel so free.
Flying away on a wing and a prayer.
Who could it be?
Believe it or not it's just me."

Still, now when I think of that theme, I think of George Costanzas answering machine message.

MK Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:19 AM EST

So I keep saying that I need to quit reading Slezak at work--I'm sure my muffled chortling annoys my cube neighbors. But I might actually have to quit; "Call 911! I'm being assaulted by a song!!" actually made me spit water. Well done.

to Alex Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 09:13 AM EST

Hillarious is a pretty strong word to use here. It would have been better done as a video. Toooooo long.

RTA Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:52 AM EST

How could you guys overlook the incredible "I Can Die Happy Now" complete with the winner performing Hari Kari on live TV?

LisaMama Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:48 AM EST

Slezak and Adam, thank you for doing this. Idol fans and PopWatchers will never forget your noble (yet soul-crushing) sacrifice. Is there any chance AI will ditch this terrible idea and let one of the mentors write the song? Let Andrew Lloyd Weber or Neil Diamond have a crack at this thing. I'd even take a Mariah Carey song about butterflies and rainbows!

I listened too ... Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:27 AM EST

... And you managed to give such high ratings? What a pile of crap. Of course last year wasn't any better, but there was one song that was surprisingly original that managed to sneak in. No such luck this year. I gave my favorite a 10 ... but I can't say I remember it now, a couple of weeks later.

orville Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:22 AM EST

Faeries and hummingbirds dropping from the ceiling while singing about magic rainbows is honestly the only thing that would get me to watch the finale at this point now that Carly is gone. I like David Cook, but I don't want him to win because I think that the Idol machine might just kill him and any creativity he has.

dan Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 07:40 AM EST

Why doesn't your site offer a "print" button at the top of each article? That's standard practice for websites nowadays, no?

Leo Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 07:40 AM EST

this was... disturbing in sooooo many levels.
and yet, you two managed to make it also bearable.
... yes, rufus wainwright is a good idea.

Elizabeth Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 06:27 AM EST

"Flying on a wing and a prayer / Fly me from despair."
--am I the only one who now has the theme song from "The Greatest American Hero" stuck in their head after reading that line? Michael & Adam, I think you've built up some serious points to go straight to whichever great beyond awaits you (I didn't want to offend a certain co-worker) for doing that.

amie Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 06:19 AM EST

after having my brain fried at work, you guys totally made my day!!

ABV: Popwatchers, rating these songs just made Slezak say "poop." (ROTFL)

Snarf Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 06:05 AM EST

I didn't hear the wretched things and my ears are still bleeding just reading about them. Gaaaaaaaaah!

Alex Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 03:16 AM EST

you guys are hilarious.!
I couldn't listen past the first 5 songs. soo I applaud you.

mjs Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:29 AM EST

it is actually painful to read the convo!!

Justin Castillo Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:54 PM EST

aramis should do a thorough Google search for the songwriters because the articles are out there. I was about to suggest an Idolatry video of Michael picking his favorites but I'm pleased to read this. If only you did it the day that registration began. P.S. The singers should chose the song they want since they're responsible for every performance's arrangement. "No Turning Back" is the best. "Dream Big" is a guilty pleasure, like "You're the Voice" which was covered by Heart Down Under. Does the fact that Ann and Nancy Wilson covered it make the song any better? I say yes.

silkrose Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:46 PM EST

Michael,
Please learn to spell pablum correctly. I believe this is the second time this season.

Melissa Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:28 PM EST

I started listening and voting for the songs, but I didn't have the stomach for it and quit after 8 songs. It really doesn't matter what song wins anyway, because my darling David C could polish any musical turd they throw his way.

Coco's mom Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 08:27 PM EST

You guys are awesome! Sleazak, you are the chocolate to ABV's peanut butter. Each great on your own, but even better together.

Ms Daisy Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:24 PM EST

How about the two finalists have to write their own song? The Daves couldn't do any worse.

Ms Daisy Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:24 PM EST

How about the two finalists have to write their own song? The Dave's couldn't do any worse.

estab1971 Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:20 PM EST

I don't know why they don't do the songwriting competition the same way songs are selected for albums in the real world: allow the singers themselves (+ posse of vocal coaches or Mommy & Daddy in the case of David A) to select the song that works best for their voice and style and let them work with the songwriter and arranger in the studio for a while until the song works for them. Why do the top two have to sing the SAME SONG?! It could be like the PROJECT RUNWAY models - you only win as a model/songwriter if your designer/singer does well.

Pamela Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:19 PM EST

I loved this post even if you both had to suffer much bad rhyme, shopworn cliches and overwrought melodies to bring it to us:

Slezak: Clearly this songwriter has never known the pleasure of backsliding to the dark side.

ABV: Just click on the one star and move on!

What fantastic advice for us all!

NineDaves Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:11 PM EST

and here i thought i was the only loser who listened and voted on all 20 tracks. if only you guys were there with me to make this better.

Rose Tyler Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:04 PM EST

All I can say is that I'm sure they don't pay you enough.

Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:00 PM EST

Slezak: "Thank You Whatever Comes." This is the jankiest song title in the history of "Celebrate Me Home."
ABV: First line: "I was a loner and a roamer."
Slezak: Sorry, I was so bored I started checking email.
LMAO!!!!! man, i luv the word 'jank'.

mscisluv Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:54 PM EST

This post made me crack up. My husband was worried about my mental health for a second there. Dumb question for AI: Wouldn't it be smart to pick songs for the final two contestants that a) Could actually be a successful single and b) Suit their vocal style and range (because how painful was it when Blake Lewis had to perform "This Is My Now")?

Suzanne Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:22 PM EST

thanks you two. I wasn't going to vote in the songwriter's competition because it seemed so worthless--the songs that come out are just so unlistenable. But since you narrowed it down to three for me, I registered. I gave No Turning Back a 10--I really liked it. Not as much as a 10, but other people are giving Something from Heaven a 10, so I bumped my score on a decent one to be competitive. All You Will Need, which would be excellent for Carly, I gave an 8 because Carly won't be at the final in a competitive capacity. And We're Gonna Make It--I gave it a 5. I can't believe you liked it.

palais Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:22 PM EST

Because I'm a bit of a masochist, I listened to all twenty heinous, cliched, hair tearing out worthy songs and decided on one thing. Tequila shooters are not my friend.

aramis Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:33 PM EST

I wish yalls would have done this earlier, would have saved me some headaches. By the end of the 20 songs, if I saw those horrid "shadows", lonely hearts, broken tears and discouraging fears I was going to walk my happy arse down the the armory on the navy base i'm stationed at and blow them the eff up. All this after I took a few shots of pepto bismol.
Are these guys all reading the same "Cliched Inspirational Love Songs For Dummies" book? No, really...because I want names. An author or someone I can blame for this insanity.
What's sad is that the winner (if you could all Dave Cook that) will have to spew this garbage out.
Well I guess I have to go find that light that will get me through the rest of this work day because it's bringing me down on hard times and I feel so lost and incomplete...until he (Jack Daniels) found me... yeah, see I can't even MOCK it because I throw up in a little in my mouth as a default reaction....

John Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:22 PM EST

This made me love both of you more than I thought possible. You should collaborate more often!

Heather Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:21 PM EST

I *think* that the one that you all liked with teh demons was the one I liked. Seriously, there was a Kristy Lee song, a Jason Castro song, a Carly song, a whole bunch of crap (not that those weren't crap) - and that one song that I could actually stand to listen to AND sounded like everyone but Kristy Lee could do well with it.

Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:18 PM EST

This post totally made me LOL. Especially the part about rhyming life can be so mean with machines

Lyn Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:16 PM EST

Loving Adam B. Vary and Slezak. Dave from DC- you rock!

Shan Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:59 PM EST

Like a child being told not to touch a hot stove, I couldn't help but check out this schlock for myself. I'm now trying to decide what kind of liquor is best for numbing the pain I feel inside. Seriously, they all come from the Magnetic Poetry book of songwriting. A grown man singing about a "magic rainbow"? Seriously?

Rita Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:44 PM EST

you guys are soooo right i listened to all the songs and they were all so generic and forgettable!!!

Stephanie .T Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:41 PM EST

Is it just possible to have an Idol coronation song that does not sound like a cheesed up regurgitation of the Miss America coronation song?!

Jessica Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:40 PM EST

You guys just totally made my day.

Dave Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:28 PM EST

That was terrific, but now I'm dreading the Idol finale. And any review/critique/snark-fest that references both Arrested Development AND 30 Rock deserves a solid 10 in my book!

-Dave from DC, shamelessly sucking up to PopWatch writers since 2006.

daisyj Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:23 PM EST

1. I used to have the same problem with rondayvu and rendezvous (pronounced rendevoness). It wasn't until I saw the title of the song "Secret Rendezvous" that I figured it out.


2. If you're still suffering after the gym, I'd recommend the judicious application of several gin rickeys. Tasty, and the bartender might have to look up how to make it, which is always fun.


3. They totally should have a song about infidelity and alcohol in there.

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