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Apr 17, 2008, 09:00 AM | by Whitney Pastorek

Categories: 'American Idol'

Mariahidol_l The palindrome is dead; all hail the palindrome. Yes, PopWatchers, just when I was starting to like her, Kristy Lee "KLK" Cook -- wide stance, Evita hands, MechaZilla survival skills and all -- was asked to leave American Idol's dwindling island tonight, during an episode most remarkable for its complete mindfrak of an elimination construct. This was a night which will also forever live in infamy as the first and hopefully only time I'll be hypnotized into downloading an American Idol iTune. Damn you, David Cook, and your infernal talent. You're making me go all soft! Between your bizarrely appealing emo versions of cheesy songs I love and the persistent, itchy crush I've developed on Seacrest, I don't even know who I am anymore. What's next? I start watching Dancing with the Stars? I buy a Clay Aiken CD? I stop being totally creeped out by all these group numbers in which the Idol contestants sing about God and praying?

Okay, that last thing will never happen. But rather than launch into one of those rants you folks love so much -- this time featuring my strongly held belief that if I want to hear evangelical music, there are channels other than Fox for my doomed soul to surf, thank you very much, and hey, I wonder what God thinks of all the families that network tried to destroy with Moment of Truth? -- I'll just go ahead and start the rundown of what happened during today's taping, featuring none other than Ms. Mariah Carey herself. Join me after the jump, won't you? The Baby Jesus would want you to!

We were called to arrive at CBS Television City no later than 5 p.m. today lest we miss the Carey festivities, so I hustled my way to the studio, forgetting to leave my iPod and cell phone in the car. Of course, this was the one day they decided to clamp down on security, and next thing I knew, the iPod was confiscated. (Not the useful, show-stealing piece of technology, mind you -- just the lump of third-generation ancientness that plays host to my wide variety of angry music.) Once I took my seat, the long arm of the law came for me again: The CBS pages were out in force with their gum cups, trying to collect our minty freshness. Well. You can take my iPod, Idol, but you can't take my gum. As I sat there trying desperately not to move my jaw, I took a quick glance around the studio. Here is my tally of employees chewing gum:

People with headsets: 4

CBS pages, including the very one shaking the gum cup at my section: 5

Debbie the Stage Manager: 1

I mean, honestly.

During this scan, I also kept an eye out for celebs, but came up empty besides Borat's Ken Davitian, and the failure trio of David Hernandez, Chikeze, and Justin Guarini. Oh, to know what these men are thinking, and why they cannot leave this cruel mistress behind. Meanwhile, the woman in front of me tossed out the quote of the night: "Is Randy's chair extra large, or does it just look that way?" Corey showed up to get the party started early, and the girls in the "mosh pit" squealed their approval. Apparently, Corey's starting to see a lot of return business. "I love my stalkers in the house!" he bellowed, just as Debbie came out to announce we were about to sound check with "one of your favorite people, Mariah Carey! Say hi to Mariah, everybody!" As the diva took the stage to a big round of applause, the woman next to me let loose with the runner-up for quote of the night: "She looks way less skanky in real life." And it was true! If you could get past that dress -- which looked a bit like she'd snagged her slip on her bra in the wash and opted to just press on anyway -- Mariah was looking very fetching. I especially like the way she carries a small fan around with her everywhere she goes so that her hair is, at all times, wafting softly in the breeze. (No, seriously: There was a fan up there. Corey made a joke about it later.)

"Please, no judging," Mariah smiled, as she began warbling some notes into her bedazzled mic. "I don't even know if they can hear in the audience," she continued, then turned to us and explained. "They make us wear these headphone things, and it's so bleak! Just FYI. Sorry to, like, have a sound check. I'm always late." My goodness, Mariah, don't apologize! We are happy to sit here and listen to you sing the same song four or five times. (Which, funny you should mention it, we did!) She ran through "Bye Bye," and then the Idols and judges emerged. Paula was first tonight, wearing what appeared to be a scarf AND a necklace AND a giant rose (somewhere, Diane Keaton wonders why she never thought of that), followed by Randy and Simon. They all stopped to greet Justin on their way to the platform, while Ryan greeted Mariah's backup singers and had his pants rearranged by that dude again. From the sofas, KLK giggled something at Nigel. I've noticed these two having private conversations a lot these past two days, but it appears I'll never get the chance to launch that other blog I kept meaning to start, KLKIsSeducingNigelNotJustMiddleAmerica.com.

We pre-tape Mariah, whose segment will air after the Q&A segment we'll pre-tape right after we pre-tape Mariah. The back wall opens, we give Ms. Carey a standing ovation, she sings through "Bye Bye" again, and I am aghast at the way even a very direct lyric such as "Put your hand way up high" fails to provoke seaweed-swaying amongst the "moshers." (My stars, is it possible they've done some deep self-examination and realized that their swaying was making people die inside? If so, I am thrilled, and I congratulate them, as well as their therapists.) Mariah finishes the song, does her little confab with Ryan, and once the cameras are off, Ryan asks, "Randy, how did it sound?" "Great!" replies Randy. "The ending was a little rancid," Mariah says casually. "NO!" screams the audience. I write +10 for use of "rancid" in my notebook.

Once they've cleared Mariah's setup, Ryan comes back out for the telephone question bit, and Debbie silences the crowd. "This is my favorite part, when you're quiet," she says. I am now no longer sure whether I have a bigger crush on Debbie or Ryan. They start the segment, but the mics screw up on the first question, and they have to start again. While they reset everything, Ryan seems a little loopy, and he ambles out to center stage singing an off-key version of "Always Be My Baby" (original flavor, not Cooked crispy). The crowd cheers, and in front of my section, Nigel mutters, "Don't encourage him, please." Take two, and the phone business goes off without a technical hitch. Miraculously, it ends up on TV sans editing -- which was a shock to me, because I could have sworn that both "Meghan"'s kiss-uppy intro and Simon and Paula's "Straight Up" penis joke wouldn't make the show. At the end of the phone stuff, they segue back into the Mariah Carey video that we just pre-taped, and play that all the way through again. I take this opportunity to visit the port-a-potties.

When I return, Corey drops the bomb that we're not just getting a Mariah Carey performance, but one from Elliott Yamin, too. He continues to run down all the things we should cheer for, ending with "It's basically all about you guys screaming for an hour." Then he asks everyone in the house to hold up their signs. A quick glance around reveals very few of originality or interest, except one kid with a "Ryan, I Want Your Job" poster... but Corey keeps reading signs, people keep holding them up, this seems to be going on waaaaay too long. Then Debbie takes the stage, and says something to Corey, who sighs. "We heard there was... a sign..." he begins, but Debbie cuts him off and gets right to the point. "It said 'Bye Bye Kristy,'" she says. "Is that true? If it's true, you're rotten. Put it down, and never put it up again." She peers menacingly out at the crowd from under her hat. "I'm a mother, I'll spank you." From somewhere in the wings, she receives a signal. "We got it!" she cries, and everyone breathes a sigh of relief. (Note to self: Leave iPod, cell phone, prescient signs in car.)

We killed truly massive amounts of time between the pre-tape and the show tonight, PopWatchers, believe me. I saw one woman nearly get her nose broken, they came around with the gum cups again, they tracked down the dude who won last year's songwriting competition (I resisted the urge to swing by and ask him how his now is doing), every single person in the room got the chance to tell Corey where they were from... and then FINALLY, it was time to start. Ryan came back on stage and yelped to Debbie, "This is live on national television??" then began hyperactively clearing his throat. Someone pointed out the "I Want Your Job" sign, and Ryan told the holder they could have the job where he has to get up at 4 a.m., and he'll just get up at 6. Debbie reined Ryan in again and began to count down from ten. As is her wont, Paula hit the platform with about three seconds to spare. And at long last, THIS was American Idol.

Here is where I would like to insert that rant about the red zone the Idol spirituality meters are hitting of late. While tonight's group performance of "One Sweet Day" was at least three Veggietales short of a "Shout to the Lord," it was still the second consecutive group number (third if you count the sheep-heavy version of "Shout..." the kids did last Wednesday) that namechecked God. I let "Shout to the Lord" off the hook for being "inspirational," and I'm not saying this show is trying to convert me to anything but Ford ownership, but I do think maybe we could spread out the Jesus juice a little going forward. [Read very good HuffPo essay here.] During the first commercial, Nigel and Debbie huddled with the Idols, and it looked like they were explaining how this "Okay, we're splitting you into two groups" elimination was going to work. Meanwhile, Corey was handing out free iTunes like candy from a van on a playground. When we came back, Ryan introduced the scenes from last night, and then it was time to start the crazy elimination game.

First up: Jason Castro. He gets nice applause, and when Seacrest tells him to go to the left, everyone cheers, despite having no idea what "to the left" signifies yet. David Cook gets big love, and I very much respect the fact that -- even after Ryan asked him directly -- he kept his personal business personal. He is told to go to the right. The room is now confused. Carly is next, gets whoops, Simon gives her the Space Camp speech I've been waiting for all season long ("Why are you so hard on me?" "Because you're goin' up!"), and she is sent to the left. KLK moseys out next, to vast indifference. She calls Simon a butt, and is sent to the right. There is polite applause. The audience has now convinced themselves that the right is the place to be, which is why it is the perfect time for a commercial break. During this break, we are introduced to a woman who is both a Polynesian dancer and a second grade teacher. It was not particularly memorable.

"Ford commercial everyone!" Debbie barks, and we're back with Elliott Yamin, who sounds good and looks great, if weirdly similar to T.J. Thyne from Bones. During Elliott's performance, though, something important is brought to my attention: Ryan Seacrest has no rhythm. I don't know how to explain it. It's as though he feels an extra beat that only workaholic TV hosts can sense. Not that he was dancing, per se; while Elliott sang, Ryan was more or less fidgeting, bouncing on his heels and twitching his knee, clutching an index card while keeping the other hand in his pocket, and doing this pigeon thing with his head. But rarely were any of these movements on the beat. They were more like... between. And given that he was standing in the middle of a row of Idols who were moving on the beat, I sort of feel like he was trying to fit in, and failing. Developing...

After Mr. Yamin's sweet tribute to his mom, Syesha came out and was sent to the left, Brook to the right, and I wrote down Maybe they're just going to give Archie the title today and get it over with. Instead, we go to commercial. During this commercial, a CBS page inadvertently punches Corey in the face. He gamely recovers, and comes up into my bleacher to interview a five-year-old girl named Liberty. Liberty tells Corey that she is five, and then corrects it to seven, since that's how old one must be to attend Idol. "It's okay," says Corey. "She's four at Disneyland, she's seven at Idol." The entire audience, myself included, was captivated by Corey's conversation with young Liberty, one-sided as it may have been, and time flies. Before we know it, it's time for the pre-tape segment to be broadcast. See above.

Commercial break #4, and Ryan is off getting his makeup done again. Carly is sort of dancing around in front of the sofa, and Archuleta is still stuck backstage. (Look! The adults are having fun! I scribble.) With 30 seconds to go in this break, Ricky Minor drops his iPhone off the band platform and very nearly hits Debbie in the head. Then we once again go live, and in a giant shocker are told that Archie -- whose leather has thankfully migrated to the top half of his body this evening -- is safe. THEN Ryan swapped Cook and Syesha, and THEN it became totally obvious which group was the bottom three. Archie sits down -- didn't someone pull this move last year? Melinda Doolittle, perhaps? -- Ryan tells us which group is safe, Carly smacks Ryan in the shoulder and chokes Archie (love her!), cut to another commercial.

It is all moving so fast now. The girl next to me and I discuss the likelihood of Brooke going home, which we decide is pretty damn likely. KLK trots over to giggle with Nigel one last time. Then some woman falls down the steps of my bleacher, and we're back. Syesha is safe. KLK gets in one last shot at Simon. Brooke is told she's staying, starts crying. KLK is, too, but during her Farewell Montage Set To Ruben Studdard's Cover of Kenny Loggins' Most Grammatically Awkward Song, she can't be bothered to watch the screen. Instead, she gets her tears wiped away by Carly, then walks to the judging platform to plant herself in front of Simon for a sassy final performance. You all caught her re-written lyrics, but since I think the telecast cut off before she got there, let me say her big final note was even better than last night, that when she finished, the other contestants swarmed her, she received a kiss on both cheeks from Nigel and a big hug from Ryan, and then Corey came out to make one last joke. "So, that was the rehearsal..." he said, and I was out the door before he could tell me to leave.

My iPod and I are now reunited, and I'll be sure not to bring that with me next week, just in case Andrew Lloyd Webber demands Carey-esque levels of security. Meanwhile, my dear PopWatchers, if you're still reading: Uh, what did you think? Did America get it right, or should KLK have eked out another week? Did you enjoy the celebrity performances this evening? And -- here we go into the lion's den -- what do you think about the singing of blatantly Christian songs on a supposedly secular television program? Finally, to end on a note that's less likely to get my head chewed: Anyone got early picks for Sir Andy week? I'm willing to go out on a limb right now and bet all comers $1 that Syesha and Archie will have a fight to the death over "Memory," with Syesha coming out on top and Archie forced to mope his way through "Close Every Door" from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat instead. Also I really hope Carly does "Tell Me on a Sunday," please. Your turn!


chris strang Thu, May 1, 2008 at 04:33 PM EST

she was horrible and should have been gone earlier

chris strang Thu, May 1, 2008 at 04:33 PM EST

she was horrible and should have been gone earlier

Daniel Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:39 PM EST

I agree with Bruce, She is awesome and my kids do think she is a great kid. She will go far, and I look forward to her tour. To think how good she is doing her kind of music. Don't change Kristy. Stay who you are, thats what makes you special.

Bruce Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:06 PM EST

I miss Kristy, she started out not great, but kept getting better, I have downloaded all her I-tunes and listened to them, and realize how great she is. Those who wish her off are most likely jealous of her beauty, personality and the fact that she is wholesome. A kid I hope my kids look up to, that is not to afraid to admit she does not go along with the crowd and out drinking and carrying on. Great career ahead of her.

Vader Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:48 AM EST

Your suggestion that people should switch channels if they don't like a Christian song on AI is infantile. Everyone has a right to watch the show if they like it, and then give negative criticism on aspects of it that they dislike. Going by your dumb logic, if you don't like the comments people make about Christian songs on these boards, then why don't YOU switch to other websites? No one is forcing you to read any of these comments too, right? Or did you think you have the right to complain about the perceived anti-Christian nature of people on these boards, but they have no right to complain about the over-emphasis on Christian songs on Idol?

Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:45 AM EST

Whitney, I think your article is blasphemous and ignorant. This is American Idol. I think America was founded on our trust in God. How sad that so called "Americans" get annoyed when God or praying to God is mentioned in a song on National Television. I'm sure Fox has no problem with you tuning into another channel.

Hey Whitney Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:19 PM EST

Can you tell us if JT is at the show. Paula fans want to know (because they want her to be happy). Saula fans want to know (because they hate him and want Simon and Paula together) There is a fan war brewing. Help!!!

Spoilers Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM EST

Any word yet on what the kids will sing tonight?

EVELYN Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM EST

i was so ready for brooke to go home. i have been so tired of her same oh same oh sit at the piano and cry sing. she really messed up that last week. klc did way better imo. i thought it was hilarious klc sang to simon. i want the top 4 to be david cook (mixed on the win cause he would be under contract with idol, 2nd would be on his own but worried cause blake was 2nd and hes not going too far too fast) archie (can not stand that boring boring boring, but lovely voice, just boring) castro cause hes just about the sweetest voice left if you just want to listen and not think, and then one girl. either carly or syesha. no baby cry, then it can be syesha, baby cry anymore and no no no. carly would look less angry btw if she would change the shape of her eyebrows. that is my opinion. ta ta yall

Plexi56 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:44 AM EST

Frankly, I'm a little bored with the Christian debate (which is CONSTANT) on here and all things Archuleta. Of course, I'll watch tonight due to trying to avoid sheer boredom but I swear I have zero interest in any of these individuals anymore. Even Jason Castro, who profess to dislike the least, doesn't really inspire me one way or the other. The rest are merely *meh* with a resounding dislike solely for Brooke and bordering anger/annoyance with Syesha. In a nutshell: don't care.

Btw, the Idol results shows are a beating on Wednesday nights and from the reports logged here on EW it sounds like they're even more of a whip to see live.

Why not make the Tuesday Idol shows an hour and a half and let the contestants expand out their performances and make the show less rushed (which it always is) and pair down the seemingly endless Wednesday night beating? I don't understand why they don't do that ... is the rest of Fox's Tuesday night line-up really that "can't miss"???

Robin McEwen Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:41 AM EST

Kristy I think you and David A. are the BEST. Do you think that I could have a signed picture of you. I'm 54 and I think you have alot going for you and you will do very well in the country music world.

I wish only the best for you.

Robin

dpinmd Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:01 AM EST

Oops, I meant guest "performer," not guest "speaker."

dpinmd Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:00 AM EST

I can see why people were offended by Whitney's snarky mentions of "Jesus Juice" and "Baby Jesus." It didn't personally offend me because I come here for the snark, LOL! But I can see how it would bother people.

I do, however, agree with Whitney's point (and the Huffington Post article) about the use of an overtly Christian song as one of the required group numbers. (Shout to the Lord, not One Sweet Day). There's a difference between a contestant or guest speaker choosing a religious song because it "speaks to" them, vs. the PRODUCERS choosing a religious song and forcing the contestants to sing it (not once, but twice). When it's a producer-selected song, that implies that the producers/show are endorsing a particular point of view/belief system. If I wanted that, I'd be watching TBN.

Teebo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 08:26 AM EST

Oh Christ

Vader Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 08:15 AM EST

Oh please, if you Christians have the right to love and enjoy Christian songs, then surely non-Christians have a right to dislike these same songs? Personally I'm neutral about Christian songs, to me they're just songs about fictional characters from an ancient fairy tale. It's a bit strange, as it's no different from hearing people sing about aliens and garden gnomes, but I don't really care. Anyway, what if Muslim or Buddhist songs were sung on Idol? Would you Christians enjoy such songs? I'm pretty sure you'd find it weird as well, so stop trying to assume the moral high ground. Bottomline is, don't get all puffed up when people express their distaste for Christian songs. Why should a non-Christian like these songs? The lyrics are meaningless to them, so the only way they're going to enjoy it is if they absolutely love the melody. And let's face it, a lot of these songs sound only slightly more interesting than Mary Had a Little Lamb.

Melody Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 06:22 PM EST

I find it exceedingly odd that we can't say "Merry Christmas" because it dares to offend those of the secular nature and dares to mention the birth of CHRIST during the time when we are all buying gifts to give to others. Yet we are able to hear Dolly Parton sing Jesus and Gravity, and the Idols sing Shout to the Lord (my favorite Christian worship song) I am loving it and taking it as a sign that the world isn't coming to an end just yet if I can sing "I've got all I need, Jesus and Gravity" right along with Dolly.

I Love Jason Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 03:21 PM EST

And I hope he knocks one outta the ballpark tomorrow night!

dear "Hey Rick" Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 03:01 PM EST

Hey bro...we are all in the process of becoming who God wants us to be! And even things like a comment column can help us along the journey. No hard feelings -- and truth be told you and I are cut from the same mold! We live and learn. No apology necessary but accepted either way friend! Blessings...

To Grandma J Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 01:30 PM EST

In Season 2, to get to the top 12(?) was different. (Diehards can correct me anytime!) For the first 3 shows, people sang and the top 2 made it to the top 12. Then on one show, they selected certain people to come back for a 2nd chance and Clay won that vote to the top 12. Then I think each judge got to pick someone else to get a second chance. I think that's how Carmen got in. That's sort of how it went and I don't think they ever did it again.

sam Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:40 PM EST

life is alone .so marrige with your life

Grandma J Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM EST

I saw AI Rewind season 2. Then when a contestant was voted off they had a 2nd chance to get back and he got 2nd after Ruben. Why did they stop that and how did it work?

Grandma J Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM EST

I saw AI Rewind season 2. Then when a contestant was voted off they had a 2nd chance to get back and he got 2nd after Ruben. Why did they stop that and how did it work?

Johnboy Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:58 AM EST

Because she admitted to having crushes on both Debbie and Ryan, Im not sure Whitney is a boy or girl. Help!

Azmat Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:42 AM EST

Be Happy for ever,Shine loke moon. I am very happy to see you .

tina Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:30 AM EST

David: Well put.
Christians are fair game in the entertainment industry. Just watch Southpark, Penn & Teller and Bill Maher for starters. It's getting out of hand.
And guys like Tim W. don't make our lives any easier with their rants.
You can be snarky without offending people. Whitney's Jesus snark turned into something else that only she can explain. I'm not about to judge where she's coming from, I don't know her.

David Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 09:44 AM EST

To Alex...
No one is shoving anything down anyone's throat...just because a song mentions Jesus it doesn't mean you are forced to believe - go DVR and FF it's the bomb. I don't think anyone should insult Whitney for her views, but I think it would be very different if she criticized another group. If she made remarks that were perceived as negative regarding sexual orientation then she would be heavily criticized. So I guess my biggest concern is, if a Christian has a view point they are considered hate mongers, but any other views are considered acceptable especially one against Christianity. I believe in respecting the thoughts, lives and choices of all...but I truly feel that if Jesus can't be mentioned due to offending on AI...then we need a list of topics and lifestyles that the viewers can vote to "ban" from being mentioned on the show. Otherwise, be tolerant of opposing views and FF any song you don't want to hear that's what I do. :-)

a great report Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 09:34 AM EST

I thoroughly enjoyed reading this!

For Pastorek Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 08:33 AM EST

Whitney, go pick on some other religion like Judaism, or better yet Islam.
Yeah, I know, too risky.

duanem Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:49 AM EST

I think somewhere along the way, we have missed something. "One Sweet Day" was not a "Christian" song. It was hit song by Mariah and Boyz II Men about a loved one who had died. And, the last time I checked, even people who don't go for Christianity still hope their loved ones are in a better place when they pass away.

"Shout to the Lord" is a worship song. And out of all the songs from "inspirational" week, it is the one that probably most fits the category. But you could tell even the contestants didn't enjoy the performance.

Like someone else said, Christian music is just a genre like showtunes or country, and I guess we can just be glad they haven't chosen it for a whole week. As a Christian myself, I don't really want to hear these folks sing about something they probably don't believe in.

In the meantime, be prepared for a little more Jesus, with Lloyd Weber having big success with a show about Him. Personally, I want to hear Sayesha sing "Skimbleshanks" from Cats.

Jenny Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:47 AM EST

I hate Simon hair style. it look like monkey's head.

To all the OFFENDED people Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 07:16 PM EST

I sure hope y'all called your local authorities to report those who were holding the guns to your heads to make you watch American Idol.

Interested Observer Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 07:03 PM EST

What EVER are all you people who are up in arms about a song that mentions Jesus gonna do with a whole PLAY about him? Will y'all self-destruct when one of the kids sings Jesus Chris Superstar this week? Better not tune in, you may be mortally offended.

To Tim Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 06:24 PM EST

You are one of the reasons we Christians get a bum rap....preach,preach, preach. Condemn,condemn, condemn.
Enough already! Call yourself something else cause you're not acting like a Christian.

CR Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:51 PM EST

Whitney - I just *discovered* you and you have me in stitches. Don't know where I've been -- oh yeah, never watching (or obsessed with) AI pre-David Cook. (Also, never bought an AI performance Pre-DC, so we have that, you and I.) Love your humor. Keep it coming.

Tim W. - I'm not entering the fray other than to say that, to me, nothing in your message to Whitney screams "Christian." It reminds me of my favorite quote from, I believe, Ghandi: "I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."

Mary Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:12 PM EST

I love amercian idol! Paule Abdule did you agree to have sex with Simon?

Mary Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:12 PM EST

I love amercian idol! Paule Abdule did you agree to have sex with Simon?

c Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 03:33 PM EST

To al you "Christians" out there who are hurling insults at Whitney-she didn't say she hated Jesus. She just doesn't like Christian music on American Idol. And I AM a Christian and I don't like "Christian" music on AI either. I want to feel like the singers believe-not like its a school assignment.

Tara Ashley Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 03:29 PM EST

Tim, I'm a devout Christian and am sad that I am in the same category as someone like yourself. To everyone else: please don't think we're all like that!

Lizzie Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:08 PM EST

Whitney, Love your commentary, look forward to it (and Shirley's too)every week! Elliot Y. was fab as always. Keep in mind on the Christian music, viewership has dropped a bit this year and by featuring a Christian song or two they can bring the numbers back up. Plus, it is separation of church and state, not church and Fox. Really, it is just another genre of music, like Broadway or Country. Think of it that way. Glad Carly was not in the bottom 3, I hope she blows the doors off of the place this week with Webber.

Alex Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 01:57 AM EST

Excuse you, Tim W. I feel exactly the same way as Whitney, so I don't appreciate your attacks. Not everyone is comfortable having these Christian-message songs shoved down their throats. And they seem especially out of place on a show like "Idol."

Randy Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 01:57 AM EST

Wow! What obvious religi-phobia! You must have had some sort of bad experience. Get over it! We are out there and we won't go away!

Tim W. Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:46 PM EST

Whitney,
You're a Christian-hating bigot. Don't you love it when people who aren't part of the secular left throw those words you love (words like "hate" and "bigot") back at you? Somewhere along the line folks like you seemed to have gotten the very misguided notion that you have some sort of Constitutional right to censor others' religious speech. (How tolerant.) Sorry. You don't. It's a big wide marketplace of ideas in this country of ours and Christianity (in all its many varieties) plays a huge role. Get used to it. Jesus haters like you are NOT the majority. If you and others like you don't like the fact that AI included "Shout to the Lord" and one or two other songs that mention God (in a positive sense, not as a curse word), then change the channel. I'm sure the show will somehow manage to carry on.

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pinkyyy Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:52 PM EST

that part was very cute when david archuleta was sittin down on the stage.............such a cutie..........NICE ARTICLE!!!
especially da "givin the title to archuleta" part..LOVE IT!!
im rooting 4 archuleta

Paula Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:51 PM EST

I was bored with the show, I'm not a big Mariah fan. I was shocked when KLC stayed and Michael Johns left, so seeing her go did put a smile on my face! I'm pulling for David or Brooke!

sierra Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 06:25 PM EST

you were great on american idol but i wish you sang touch my body thats my favorite song.

sierra Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 06:25 PM EST

you were great on american idol but i wish you sang touch my body thats my favorite song.

Sunshine Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 05:22 PM EST

Adios, KKKristy! You won't be missed!

If AI doesn't quit with all the Jesus nonsense soon, I'm going to have to quit watching. I can't take it anymore. Hey, AI people, not everyone is Christian! Quit making these assumptions!

J Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:54 AM EST

Why all the fuss about ONE Christian song? You can get your fashion commentary on other channels as well, but you don't complain about all the discussion of the contestants clothes.

To P. David Eastburn Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:22 AM EST

Yes! What is up with all the numbers with the choir in the background? And this is definitely not a reference to any religious issue. It has everything to do with the fact that the choir can help make anyone sound better. It's especially exasperating to me on the group numbers because hey, if the contestants suck without the choir's help than just don't do the song.

rebecca Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:34 AM EST

i didnt like the elimination thing when they made it two groups and put david cook with brooke and kristy because i didnt want david to be in the bottom 3. i thought this show was pretty boring because im not a big fan of mariah carey or eliot yamin, so i wasnt that excited to sit through those 2 boring performances. im glad kristy went home this week, i actually cant believe she made it past the first week, and the horrible country version of 8 days a week. i agree with you for your song choices for david a. and syesha. great article!

rebecca Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:34 AM EST

i didnt like the elimination thing when they made it two groups and put david cook with brooke and kristy because i didnt want david to be in the bottom 3. i thought this show was pretty boring because im not a big fan of mariah carey or eliot yamin, so i wasnt that excited to sit through those 2 boring performances. im glad kristy went home this week, i actually cant believe she made it past the first week, and the horrible country version of 8 days a week. i agree with you for your song choices for david a. and syesha. great article!

Jenn Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:48 AM EST

omg, your paragraph about Ryan had me dying of laughter! I loveeeeeed your recap.
"It's as though he feels an extra beat that only workaholic TV hosts can sense."
It's so true! I noticed the same thing on TV. sadly, his awkwardness doesn't lessen my minor crush on Ryan. He's so awkward, it's fun to watch =]

Jim Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:46 AM EST

FOX has been putting some really sleazey shows like "Moment of Truth" on after Idol just to even things out. It's the FCC equal time rule...if you give God an hour or 2 filled with Brooke White and David Archuleta, you have to give Satan an hour or 2 with "Moment of Truth" and "Hell's Kitchen." I don't know how they got that guy from "Antique's Roadshow" to host "Moment of Truth." I guess he really wanted to get off of PBS. (Spending so much time with Elmo and Tavis Smiley could drive anyone crazy.) But I am willing to put up with "Moment of Truth" if I can have "American Idol." Here is another good article on American Idol at jviz.blogspot.com
http://jviz.blogspot.com/2008/04/young-stars.html

schrivey Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:24 AM EST

My wife and I were certainly surprised (both times) when the idols started singing one of the most popular church anthems of the last 12 years, "Shout to the Lord." It seemed like such a surreal moment that such a wonderful song would be sung on such a secular show. We loved it!

zizo Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 05:57 AM EST

thenk you for this singer

greg Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 03:35 AM EST

One more thing, Dom. You talk about the baggage of Christianity. Yep...it has alot. Reason...the church is full of flawed people. Guess what Dom. So does the USA and consequently it has baggage too. So in your way of "thinking," should patriotic songs, like the one Kristy sang, be banned?? What's genre exists that is devoid of baggage. Human love??? Think about it.

greg Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 03:26 AM EST

Dominque...do some historical homework before you start spouting cliches about the seperation of church and state. That particular concept is two fold. (1) The state not establishing an official religion, and (2) the state staying out of the church's business. It has nothing to do with a private network or show expressing religious views, nor will it ever. Fox, AI, can broadcast any religious viewpoint they want, 24/7. Given that reality, a gospel song is the same as a country song, or any other genre. It's your choice to hit the mute button or not.....or whine about it here.

hamed Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 01:53 AM EST

chating

Puritans Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:12 AM EST

Started the article this morning, felt like someone kicked me in the gut, stopped. Figured there would be comments, thought about it all day, then came back to see if I wanted to add my 2 cents. Well, here in the US, we don't have a Monarchy with a state run religion, giving Whitney the freedom to say what she chooses. It also give TV shows the right to successfully air Christian songs without having to ask us for permission OR explain it to us. Right next to songs about drinking, drugs, illegitimate children, sex and infidelity. AI contestants have the right to protest either type too. Whitney can tune out anything that mentions Jesus just like I can tune out her thoughts and skip trace to what I need from her article. We should be THANKFUL we have these rights, not stab each other with them. I've lost alot of respect for her, but then again, she probably really doesn't care, since my reasons are Faith based. So, I won't get angry, but I'm really, really just plain sad.

Hey Rick Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:12 PM EST

Sorry dude. I apologize. I was wrong.
So many different viewpoints from so many different minds and none of us really know each other. There's no excuse for ranting and bringing people down.
Peace

Cathy Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:08 PM EST

I guess "Athena" isn't too popular these days but hey, if you want to record a non-sucky song to honor this mythical goddess, have at it. I find her as offensive as the Easter Bunny. Really. What offends me is "songs" that exhort hate and violence. Most "Christian" music is about love.
One of you mentioned that every Christian's duty is to "convert" other people. This is simply not possible. True conversion happens of your own free will, in your own heart. If I held a gun to your head and told you to renounce all other gods except for Captain Crunch, you'd probably swear he's your savior... but you wouldn't mean it in your heart. So I can "try" to convert you but all I can do is influence. YOU are ultimately accountable for your own choices, and the consequences of those choices.

Kristen Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:00 PM EST

Re: the debate over religious music's place on Idol: I'm a practicing Catholic, and unlike Whitney, I actually thought it was completely inappropriate that the contestants had to sing "Shout to the Lord". There are plenty of other inspirational things they could have sung. When the song is written/performed by the featured mentor, however, that seems just fine to me. Dolly Parton can sing whatever she wants to, and "One Sweet Day" probably lent itself well to a group song because it came ready-made with parts for both guys and girls. And it was a huge song at the time it came out. And it was Mariah week. And no one is proselytizing with a song that was a tribute to a dead friend. So I fail to see the problem with the way those songs were used. As for the people saying "You wouldn't like it if they'd sung a song about Allah!" or mentioning Athena, give us some credit. If there's a good song about another religion, sing it! I think the vast majority of Christians wouldn't mind at all.

CJ Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 07:15 PM EST

I have not been impressed with the group sing song party this season at all. I think it has been a bit off and boring. And agree the gospel songs have overstayed their welcome ...lets move on!

CJ Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 07:15 PM EST

I have not been impressed with the group sing song party this season at all. I think it has been a bit off and boring. And agree the gospel songs have overstayed their welcome ...lets move on!

P. David Eastburn Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 06:00 PM EST

Is anyone else tired of the choir robes and gospel thing? Why do the finalists have to have a mostly Black gospel choir in robes as back-up singers as they sing the deciding song to determine which of the top 2 wins? Is it de rigueur that you don't stand a chance of winning if you don't have 40 people behind you looking as if they were just let off a church bus in the wrong part of town? As the term coined on "Big Brother"....enough of Club Christ.

dominique Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:38 PM EST

As much as I like and admire Dolly Parton, I was not happy when she sang a "Jesus" song either. It was inappropriate, in my opinion. It's insulting to assume that most of the audience are Christians and want to hear her sing about her religion. I think it's something that should be reserved for an audience that is mostly Christian and expects and wants those kinds of songs. American Idol is not a relgious show, and if it becomes a religious show, a lot of people will quit watching it.

dominique Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:35 PM EST

Some of you are using arguments that don't make sense. You're comparing Jesus songs to country music. It's not the same thing.

Country musicians don't go around the world trying to convert people to country music. They make their music, they are happy, they mind their own business.

Religion is a whole other kettle of fish than music. There is a lot of history, baggage, and energy in any discussion about religion, and it's not that way with music. People don't fight wars and kill each other over music. They don't fly airplanes into buildings over music, or wage crusades.

Religion is a heated subject. Admit it. You can't deny it. You who are saying "what's wrong with a Christian song" would not say that if it were a muslim song or some other religion, perhaps.

This country was founded on separation of church and state, which many Christians want to take away. Every day they erode away that separation. Many of us believe that separation is essential to a free society.

dominique Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 05:28 PM EST

it's okay cuz of artistic license...just like the rappers get a pass for using the "N" word or the word "Ho" or for exhorting their listeners to kill cops or rape their femae relatives. Right?

Wrong. Your analogy doesn't hold up. I don't want to hear Jesus songs on AI especially when all the singers have to sing it. I also don't want to hear rappers, no, no, no. Don't you think there is a middle ground between those two examples?

re: david Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 04:24 PM EST

"oh yeah...by the way..
the Idols should sing "Shout At The Devil" by Motley Crue....yep...thats what i think."

Thanks for this comment, David. It truly made my day... and made me spit Dr. Pepper out onto my desk. HEE! :)

Interested Observer Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 04:03 PM EST

Hey, if the word "Jesus" or "God" is used in a song, it's okay cuz of artistic license...just like the rappers get a pass for using the "N" word or the word "Ho" or for exhorting their listeners to kill cops or rape their femae relatives. Right?

JRBear Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 03:45 PM EST

I want an "ALL Christian songs week", then an "All Country night" (oops, already did that). Then an "All Disney Songs Night", hosted by Hanna Montana. Maybe someday, they will let them actually sing their own songs, what a concept!

dear "Hey Rick" Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 03:03 PM EST

Perhaps that portion of my comment was in bad taste because we both know that it is never too late until we take our last breath. I will also say that your comments "Let's keep the 'dooming of souls' to God. That kind of preachy stuff is lost here. That's exactly the kind of thing that makes us Christians look bad, holier than thou's like yourself, pretending to be God and 'dooming' peoples souls.
Lighten up and start practising what you preach." could be exactly what has given Christians a bad name as well. You don't know me in anyway and yet you start with your rant and attack me for what you THINK I meant. I simply used the words that Whitney stated herself in the context of the attitude they were presented in - not rendering the judgments that you have. Perhaps you have become what it is you rant about. We live and learn.

hey Rick Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 02:32 PM EST

But it was your own '(too late I might add)' that intoned some of that preachy attitude. I agree with everything you said and sorry to offend dude but this is why Christians like us get dragged over the rails.

swerds Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:57 PM EST

Asuming that it will be ALW week and not just Broadway week:

David Cook: "Heaven on their Minds" or "Superstar" from Jesus Christ Superstar.

Jason Castro: "High Flying, Adored" or "On this Night of a Thousand Stars" from Evita.

David Achuleta: "Music of the Night" from Phantom. Is there really a question here?

Carly Smithson: "Unexpected Song" from Song & Dance

Brooke White: "Love Changes Everything" from Aspects of Love or "I Don't Know How to Love Him" from JCS

Syesha Mercado: "Memory" from Cats, "Angel of Music" from Phantom or another song of being with a married man, "Another Suitcase in Another Hall" from Evita

Rick Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:56 PM EST

If you took the time to actually read the article you are commenting on, you would realize that I simply quoted Whitney in saying her soul is "doomed". Read first ... comment later!

Ned Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:48 PM EST

They're singing a song. It is a Christian song. They're performing. They're not preaching, they're singing a song. I don't like country music but I don't got upset because they always sing it on AI. For the athiests/agnostic, stand by your lack of faith/belief and write it off as a song rather than an offensive choice on Fox's part. Why is Christianity so offensive to people? If you don't believe it, fine. But don't try to bring those of us down that believe in Jesus just because you're on some freaking high horse and think you're right and look down on Christians as weak-minded lemmings. I personally don't believe in Santa Claus but if they chose to make a Christmas version of "AI" where they did a group sing of "Santa Claus is coming to town," I'm not about to start getting self-righteous about it. If it's that offensive, at least be mature enough to think that maybe it doesn't offend everyone and those people might not mind hearing it.

Hey Rick Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:22 PM EST

Let's keep the 'dooming of souls' to God. That kind of preachy stuff is lost here. That's exactly the kind of thing that makes us Christians look bad, holier than thou's like yourself, pretending to be God and 'dooming' peoples souls.
Lighten up and start practising what you preach.

Kathy Biederbeck Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:20 PM EST

And, oh, I hope Carly doesn't sing Tell Me on a Sunday because it has the word Sunday in the title which implies church going and the sabbath and all that Christian and God stuff, heaven forbid - the world is going to hell in a handbasket with all this singing about God and Sunday. I wish they'd have hip hop week so they'd start using cool, universally accepted words like the "N" word and "Ho".

Enough already Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:15 PM EST

Yah!!!! Weekend's here!
So Long!

Kathy Biederbeck Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:15 PM EST

I think the right person went home. Kristy Lee Cook was chosen because of her many lousy performances and I think it got to the point where her self-deprecating humor no longer made up for her crummy voice.
I have no problem with the mention of God in songs. Methinks thou dost protest too much - I wouldn't exactly call the songs the are singing blatantly Christian. Mentioning the word God in a song is kind of like mentioning the word love or America. It's part of our culture and I think you are being a little over sensitive if it bothers you that much. It's not like they opened the evening in prayer and ended it "In Jesus' name" or took an offering or did healings...jeesh, cut them some slack.

Interested Observer Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 01:14 PM EST

Whatever your beliefs, you stil have the right, as an American, to TURN off the TV, or get up and walk out of a live performance or movie, if you see or hear something offensive. This is a REALITY show, and the reality IS not everything you watch will please you. Grow up, get over it and move on!

Rick Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:57 PM EST

What will truly be sad is when Whitney realizes (too late I might add) that her "doomed soul" does not have to be...that is her choice. And as far as the musical selection of "Shout to the Lord" that we all heard...what is wrong with that? Every other musical genre (with the exception of classical) is performed on the show so why not continue that? I say bravo for FOX and AI for having the guts to do something that is not "politically correct" in this anti IN GOD WE TRUST world.

Interested Observer Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:48 AM EST

The ONLY contestant this season who is not a rehash of previous Idol wannabes is Jason Castro...in fact, he's the single most refreshing, unique Idol entrant to come along in years. He won't win because the voting public will always pick a balladeer for their Idol, but it has been a joy to tune in each week just to watch and listen to Jason. When he goes, so will I.

Mad One Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:22 AM EST

Loved that fact that we had "Shout to the Lord" and "Touch my Body" within a 30 minute time span on the same show. I think the angles and the devils should get together and touch their bodies.... perhaps then, everyone will take a big sigh and shout Hey, can't we just all get along?

bonnylass Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:20 AM EST

A-I-A-I-O: you are scolding others to read the post a bit more closely, yet your advice to Whitney is that she has the power to 'turn the TV off" if she doesn't like the christian songs. I guess you didn't pick up on the small fact that Whitney was at the taping of AI. Doing her job.

For: Ms. Pastorek Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:02 AM EST

Here's the thing. I enjoy Whitney's snark. But when she using terms like 'Jesus juice' and 'little baby Jesus', that's beyond snark. She's just baiting me and any other Christian who will come forward to defend a loved one. On the other side of the coin, she and others here felt 'baited' when having to endure a Christian song. Fine, I get it. We can agree to disagree. But her retaliation was against the wrong party. She ridiculed someone I love. That ain't right in my books. A bit more sensitivity next time, please.

Al Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:01 AM EST

oops- have done not doing

Al Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:59 AM EST

I've been bothered since they did that song (twice). If they felt like doing a inspirational song with religious overtones, they should have doing a medley of songs from different faiths. They do a different genre every week, why can't they do the same with religiuos songs? Something strange is going on at AI this season- they're shouting to the Lord, playing unusually cruel tricks on contestants- are the producers of Fox News taking over?

A-I-A-I-O Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:44 AM EST

Not sure who posted the comment about Whitney @ 10:07 ET but you apparently didn't read her post closely and I didn't appreciate the insulting tone in your wording to us "kids" having lack of insight. I do, however, appreciate your willingness to provide feedback. And, no, I'm a happy relaxed person who is not sensitive or emotional. :o) Thanks!

Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07 AM EST

Wow, I made the mistake of reading some of the comments & I am way more than a little surprised my the lack of insight or understanding displayed by Whitney's readers. Kids, she never mentioned being offended by individual songs of Faith. She didn't have a problem with Dolly week & I doubt she'll see a problem with Joseph songs or Superstar songs last week (although, I don't think of Superstar as religious, in fact it was banned from my Catholic school days). She has a problem with THE GROUP being REQUIRED to sing Evangelical songs. Which I do as well. For the record, I am a practicing Catholic.

charlie Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:00 AM EST

I am so tired of David cook. He is so obnoxious, he's just a Daughtry re-hash. If I have to hear another "Buzz Ballads" version of a previously good song... well i won;t be too happy. I just hope he doesnt win. Also, are we to believe that Kristy has been doing anything less than savory with nigel to stay on the show? becuase i like where this is going.

A-I-A-I-O Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:51 AM EST

If christian music is your hang-up, Whitney, which is obvious because of your multiple references in your article, than you need to work that out yourself. You have control to turn the TV off. There is a viewing audience that doesn't get enough of it on TV and enjoys the refreshing change. You get your way 99% of the time on TV with non-christian garbage so please stop complaining.

AJ Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:50 AM EST

Whitney, you are so right about Carly & Tell Me On A Sunday, I also think she could hit the Rainbow Tour & Buenos Aires from Evita, and Anything But Lonely from Aspects of Love out of the park. I would love to see David Cook take on (my personal fave) Sunset Blvd. & I think that if Syesha wanted to get a clue about song selection, she would go with Another Suitcase in Another Hall from Evita. Jason, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sing Love Changes Everything from Aspects of Love. PLEASE

dominique Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:49 AM EST

For those who point out the fact that a sleazy station like Fox is pushing Christianity, don't be surprised. Christianity and sleaze often go hand in hand, don't they? Just look at many of the scandals that happen, they are often perpetrated by the biggest Christian personalities. Fox is owned by Murdoch, who is a conservative right Christian. Yet Fox has the most sleaze of any station. Hypocrisy anyone?

That song they sang wasn't about God, it was specifically about Jesus. Big difference. Most people can relate to God, but pushing Jesus is pushing a certain religion.

Christians don't want to admit that they are OBLIGATED by their faith to CONVERT OTHERS. That is why many people have negative feelings about them. Believe what you want to believe, but stop trying to persuade other people to join you.

As for those other deplorable things on tv, violence, sleaze, etc., do not assume that non-Christian or non-religious people like those things. They are offensive to me too.

lauralu Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:13 AM EST

I, too, have been flabbergasted by all of the gospel music from the premier sleaze network. Maybe it's their penance. Or maybe it's the fiendish plot of the overtly Christian contestants to proselytize America! Whatever the reason, it's bizarre to watch.

Keep the (lack of) faith, Whitney!

MOI Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:54 AM EST

Someone here referred to Whitney as Imus. It seems people who have jobs in the media are pushing their own envelopes, so to speak, and some are paying the price. Snide, or rude comments, aimed at race, gender, religion etc., by so-called professional should never be tolerated.
I'm having flashbacks of playground fights back in 5th grade. Let's all grow up, shall we?

Lizzy Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:19 AM EST

I want a song for the goddess Athena next week. It's only fair.

Lizzy Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:18 AM EST

I vote for Castro to sing "Tell Me on a Sunday" or "Joseph's Coat" from JATATDC (awkward). It would have a happy, New Main Street Singers-type vibe.


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