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'Idol' season 7's first semi-scandal: the semi-pros

Jan 17, 2008, 01:54 PM | by Shirley Halperin

Categories: 'American Idol', Music

Kristyleecook_l The TiVo's barely gone cold on the second episode of American Idol, and already, a scandal? OK, it's not quite on the level of Corey Clark producing Paula's receipts from Fred Segal, but for the die-hard Idolizers out there, this is legit. Should the competition be open to semi-professionals? Like contestants who've had previous major label recording deals, were managed or produced by a big-time music industry name, or have even been nominated for a Grammy? The intrepid sleuths at votefortheworst.com blew the lid off this story, listing no less than 13 alleged top 50 contestants with a not-so-amateur past. Singers like Philadelphia auditioner Kristy Lee Cook (pictured), who, back in 2001, was signed to Arista Nashville and repped by LeAnn Rimes' former manager, or Australian import Michael Johns (formerly Michael Lee), who fronted a band called The Rising and was set to release a debut on Maverick Records in 2003 (back when Madonna still ran the label). And there's another hopeful from across the pond, Irish-born Carly Hennessy, who in 1999, signed a six-album deal with MCA Records. She was the focus of a Wall Street Journal article detailing the high risk — and cost — of breaking a new pop artist. In the piece, it was estimated that the label spent around $2.2 million on Hennessy, pairing her up with proven songwriters and producers (like Gregg Alexander, who's worked extensively with Simon Fuller clients the Spice Girls) only to see her debut album sell less than 400 copies.

That's not to say that singers should only have one shot at making it, then hang up their hat if they don't, but you have to wonder: do these contestants have an unfair advantage? After all, they've been coached by the best, not just on their vocals, but on imaging, public relations, and how to win over an audience. Or are they, as votefortheworst suggested, plants? Failed artists with connections looking to get them that coveted second chance? Is it favoritism when someone like Samantha Sidley, who's appeared on stage with Katharine McPhee and attended a workshop taught by Kat's mom, Peisha, makes it through? How about Jermaine Paul, who was apparently signed to Clive Davis' J Records and appeared on a duet with Alicia Keys which was nominated for a Grammy? (Though, according to Joe's Place blog, hosted by idolforums.com [registration required], he's already dropped out of the competition.)

Now, you could make the same argument for former backup singers like Melinda Doolittle. And, in fact, Idol producer Ken Ehrlich acknowledged this when defending the Idol screening process. He told MTV News, "There are kids who are sufficiently good out there, that maybe should be stars and the fact that they've been a backing singer to someone else in the past — if they were within the age limit and they meet all the criteria that we set — then who are we to say, 'No, you can't have another go [at it]'? That's ridiculous."

But let me just say this, and then let you all continue the debate: on Fox's Next Great American Band (which, judging by the ratings, none of you was watching), two acts had previous major label deals: Sixwire, who released their debut on Warner Bros. in 2002, and the Clark Brothers, who, in their prior incarnation as the Clark Family Experience, were signed to Curb Records and worked with Tim McGraw on their first and only album (two of the three brothers had also played in Carrie Underwood's band). Guess what? Sixwire came in second, and the Clark Brothers (who happen to be awesome) won the whole shebang. Just saying...

Ultimately, who stays or goes is up to us, the voters, but what do you make of all this, PopWatchers?


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It looks to me like they got rid of the wrong COOK on the last show.

DavidArchuletafan!!! Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 04:37 PM EST

Well i don't relly think it is a scandel.... I mean if some of the other people would have went the whole mile to win another show or get a record deal it would have been dif. Oh well dAvId ArChUeLtA iS hOt!!!!!

Sharon Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:52 AM EST

You would think if Kristy Lee had a record deal or some coaching in the past, they would have said something to her about that crazy eye thing she does when she is singing. Every once in a while, she looks possessed for no reason. It bothers me. Aside from that, she is not unique. Recently, Nashville has been flooded with little, cute, twangy girls. I'm ready for something else.

MusicTeacher Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 03:38 AM EST

My problem with American Idol is that I want the winner to be just that, an American Idol.. a clean-cut American whom we would want our children to idolize. Not former jailbait, drug addicts or an unwed mother who can't read. I don't want my children to look at these kind or people as heroes or someone to emulate.

Whocares Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:48 PM EST

You're all acting as if any of this matters. It's a freaking TV show. Get over it.

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trevor teppen Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 04:13 AM EST

Kristy Lee has used the media like anyone else like her would. Someone that has had ample opportunities and has not been able to make it. She was very fortunate to have the training and previous record deals in the past. And to all the American Idol fans that are dissapointed by seeing another RETREAD (professional, claiming AI amatuer stardom), all we can do is pray that someone that really deserves a chance, and really is a diamond in the rough that needs a blessing or two wins. I feel sorry for sell-outs like her that will do anything for attention. Cage fighting (Gimme a break, what a joke “The cage fighting American Idol” hahahaha) Come on Grandma even you can’t think that NICE girls participate in that…..selling a horse to get there, for the SECOND time, like the paper said SECOND time a charm…..what kind of a redneck town are we portaying here? People aren’t stupid and aren’t buying it and it’s too bad she wasn’t more forthecoming and honest regarding her musical past. She seems

Mark Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 06:00 PM EST

Dan is absolutely right. If you don't like the way AI allows semi-pro's into the competition and feel angered enough to come on here an complain, don't watch it. At the end of the day, I haven't heard of these people and some of them are really good and I hope they do well. Also, I saw Kristy Lee Cook's audition without hearing any of this information and said right then that I saw her as a top 5 act, so I hope all this criticism of her being a semi-pro doesn't negatively affect her going through.

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Allison Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 07:32 AM EST

I'm all for it if it improves the standard of the acts on Idol. Who cares if they had a shot already & botched it (or got bad advice or whatever)? I just want to see people who are good, and whose albums I'm going to want to buy. (eg Daughtry, Jon Lewis, and yes, I WISH Melinda Doolittle!!)

Keith Jamison Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 02:09 PM EST

There is no way that these people who have had professional careers or who have even sang back up for other professionals should be given this opportunity as well. They do most definitely have a very unfair advantage and it does bring a certain amount of trickery to the show which takes away the charm of American Idol. I also don't believe that someone who comes from another country should be allowed to represent America as the idol. This show is quickly turning into a joke and is proving itself to be like every body has said "rigged". If you want to keep your ratings then you better heed to the viewers opinions. Reality shows are a dime a dozen and everyone is already looking for the next big thing. Like Randy Jackson says "keep it real dog".

SS all the way Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM EST

This is the stupidest non-issue I've heard in a long time. Unfair advantage? Isn't some endlessly replayed sob story about some orphaned hillbilly that cain't do nothin' but sing an unfair advantage? Votefortheworst is grasping at straws to justify its own existence.

kendra burch Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:02 PM EST

i think that this show is awsome but the judges could be a lil nicer

kendr aburch Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:02 PM EST

i think that this show is awsome but the judges could be a lil nicer

DR Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM EST

I'm torn on the issue. On one hand, I think we all like to live under the illusion that these kids are trying to be the next great undiscovered talent. It makes the show worth watching. On the other hand, last season was a real wake-up call for a lot of fans who were willing to sweep Star Search and whatnot under the rug (and for the record, we had a semi-pro in Season Three, Kimberly Caldwell, who appeared on the original POPSTARS, then she ends up on AI the following season). Melinda and Brandon did back up for huge names; Jordin was being pimped to win the show, etc. It seemed like every time you would turn around, there's another contestant with pro credentials (remember the British dude from the Ivy League who had a Top ten hit in Britain with Cowell's label?!?). It's just becoming so blatant the last few seasons it's hard to ignore. If they do well, great, but at least be honest and open about these nobodies with semi-pro backgrounds going for that second chance!

johnnyD Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 10:02 AM EST

Undiscovered to the American public - I think that's the key. I've never heard of these people, they're nobodies to me.
I think there's a misconception that a former deal means that they were successful. I can imagine being dropped from a label is devastating - not always based on talent, but bad management of their big chance, much of that out of their control.
I want to see great performances, not just mediocre kids with a "dream."

sarah j Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:50 PM EST

Dan - I wonder if you stopped watching ER at the same time I did (when Dr. Romano lost his arm)? that was the end for me...
As for AI, as long as the contestants are unknown by the general public, I don't really care what their background is. Some contestants with no experience will advance because of charm, charisma, natural ability, etc. Some with prior experience will get a second chance. Keep the contest open and let the voters decide.

kiza Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 01:11 PM EST

As long as they include unknowns in the auditioning process, I have no problem with semi professionals getting a chance. Taylor Hicks, Chris Daughtry also had their own bands along with Chris Sligh.

American Idol has the most fair auditioning process there is today when anyone who is the right age bracket can try out.


Dan Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 06:25 AM EST

Here's the great thing about Maerican Idol:

If you don't like the way it is produced, presented or performed, you can TURN IT OFF.

If you don't like the audition shows, you can wait to watch it until the Hoolywood or voting rounds start to watch it, and you don't lose any voting privliges.

If you have been watching from day one and think it has lost it, you can stop watching it, and no one will arrest you for turning your back on a show you don't think is good anymore.

I turned off ER 10 years ago after being a faithful watcher, and stopped watching Malcom in the middle around the time the baby came, its ok, you are allowed to stop watching a show you once loved if you think it is not what you want to watch. Watch something else, go to a movie, or, (this will be almost heretical) read a book.

Kelly Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:51 AM EST

There should be some limits on semi pros in AI. For some, like Carly and Kristi Lee, this is a second chance when they didn't succeed through the traditional methods. Even if they don't win, it's just more publicity for them.

For the record, other game shows, like Jeopardy and Millionnaire do conduct background checks on potential contestants to see if they have any personal ties and connections to any previous contestants and related activities because they feel that those people have an unfair advantage.
AI should adopt similar rules to weed out the more connected candidates.

Lori Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 08:57 PM EST

Mike Lee from the Rising is one of the most amazing singers I have ever heard. Although I am not sure about the "Mike Johns" name change, there is already the incredible aussie Daniel Johns from Silverchair. If Mike wants to change his name for a fresh start, that was a rotten choice, unless it is his real name! I love Mike Lee and the Rising would have made it big, had the label given them a chance. Check out the song "Cradle" that was let out as a single. It got tons of play in my town and them they wre dropped. He has played lots of open mike nights in Atlanta and has been MIA for years since. He deserves our votes since his talent has been wasted and he has had a great deal of heartache, until now! He also seems to be a really nice guy. Go Mike!

Dov Cohen Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 05:37 PM EST

The problem is this: The show was started in the summer of 2002 as the "search for a superstar" who might be waiting on tables or working at a burger joint who just happens to like to sing, and who had a dream on the side of making it big but never had the means or access to do so - until AI came to the rescue to give the average joe the chance to make the big time. People who want to be famous and who have formed a local band or who perform at weddings should be the greatest amount of experience a contestant should ever have had. To be in a position where millions of dollars were spent on you at some point in your life, or if you were performing for big stars on a regular basis then you have no right to be on the show. Unless AI fixes this and fixes it IMMEDIATELY then they will fall under their own weight, and the show will have died. It's a shame because I have watched faithfully EVERY episode since season 01, but now it is losing my interest.

cara Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 03:12 PM EST

Artists signed with a previous label should be exempt from american idol

james Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 01:30 PM EST

As for "American Band," the third-place finisher -- Denver and the Mile High Orchestra -- also had quite a bit of success recording in the Contemporary Christian Music genre. It does seem to me that at some point a line must be drawn, though I'm not sure where.

Shay Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 01:08 PM EST

OOOKKK.... I'd bet that all of you freaking out about the "semi-pros" are the same people who they turned away in early auditions...Think about it this way. People take lessons to sing to get better because that is there dream!! To be a singer! Those that don't take lessons don't want it as bad. In the case of Kristy lee, here is a girl i grew up with. She does not have a lot of money, but she still managed to get lessons locally and found out she was pretty dang good! She was signed, but it didn't get her anywhere! The label dropped her!!(Do some research) She is still a small town girl with a dream, What is the problem here? Seriously if American Idol was trying to hide it they didn't do a very good job, do you seriously think they didn't know you could google? Anyone can find out this stuff, it's no secret, because there is nothing to hide!!! No rules have been broken!! Get a life people!

Garry Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 06:06 PM EST

I have mixed feelings about "professionals" competing on AI--only because some of them have had so much more experience and vocal training than the true amateurs. This doesn't make for a very even playing field throughout the competition (although even "pros" like Melinda Doolittle can fall short of winning it all).

Someone like Kristy Lee Cook shows that even signing a contract with a record label doesn't insure success. I'm sure her deal went sour due mostly to how record companies do business, not necessarily because of her talent. So, if she is willing to go through the AI mill with everyone else, I'd be happy to see her week after week. She's gorgeous and has already demonstrated her singing talent. I'll be rooting for her.

DeborahB Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:41 PM EST

If Brittany tried out now, would she get in? Without help from electronically enhancement she has very little talent.
I wish Idol would concentrate on showing real talent instead of showing people with learning disabilities or just lack of any talent at all. We are talking about what is fair after all.

FRANces Gedney Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:35 PM EST

Kristi Lee tried out in SanDiego and didn't make it. She Tried again in Philadelphia. She didn' give up. It wasn't a done deal.

Ebony Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 10:15 AM EST

If you haven't heard of any of the contestants before they were on the show, then they're not celebrities or professionals! They're still amateurs! Now just because someone had a little coaching here or there, or even a contract (and remember, she still wasn't famous, doesn't mean they shouldn't have a shot. I mean, somebody's family member, friend, teacher or church choir could've given them just as useful advice as a coach and yet that wouldn't cast them into the critics eye the way Cook has been. Anyway, Idol has changed a little and I'm happy about it. I'm also happy about my new karaoke system that's let's me be a wannabe, but that's an entirely different show! If you are a fan, here's a good link to check out: www.techtogo.com

Jonathan Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 10:14 AM EST

What's this contest about again? American Amature Idol? Come on! The chance should be open to anyone who qualifies by the rules.

BETTY Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:03 PM EST

NO,NO,NO,NO,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TO MUCH OF ADVANTEGE FOR THEM.I WONDER JUST HOW MANY OTHER THINGS GO ON WE THE VOTERS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT. MY GUESS, PLENTY. MOST EVERYTHING IS RIGGED NOW DAYS.

Wannabe Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 02:54 PM EST

I tried out in Omaha. I saw too many "gimmicks" get through. There was a guy dressed in a bathrobe singing into a scrub brush! I am a good singer, not a great singer. I am not upset that I didn't get through. I am upset that someone who SUCKS gets through (ie-the girl I tried out with who sang in some foreign language, it was so bad) and someone (like this girl who sang "Take me or leave me" she was awesome) gets tossed, because they're looking for something "different and unique". Whatever, you just want good TV. While I love the last half of this show, the auditions has become less about finding real talent than it has finding crazy people who make @$$es of themselves. It's sad.
Oh, and on the subject, I think they should let the semipros in. I keep trying to talk the lead singer for one of our local bands to try out. We need more talent and less CRAP, please!!

Ann Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 02:00 PM EST

They should do whatever it takes to improve on the lackluster past winners who have not delivered with sales. It doesn't hurt to have some real singers thrown into this circus act with performers like Sanjaya Malakar. Although it would seem like people with past connections to Simon Fuller and Clive Davis may have an unfair advantage in the selection process. Maybe the producers are desperate to find some real marketable talent by any means necessary even trying to give past losers that extra boost and exposure that may make a difference in creating a real star.

Salty Oneil Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 12:50 PM EST

NO and NO again. American Idol started out loking for NEW talent and it should stay that way! Second chances are all well and good and there are resources for them but they SHOULD NOT be on American Idol. Entertainment honest and fresh is so very sparse these days so don't go changing the rules on something that works!!!!!

scottb Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM EST

I don't have a problem with second choices. The problem is the faux profiles: Krisy Lee is a cabin-dwellin' horse whisperer, not a former BMI artist. Brooke White is a nanny! Of twins! And they're her best friends. They left out the part that her debut album came out in '05 and she has 13,000 MySpace friends. Not exactly "undiscovered" talent.

bob Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 07:33 AM EST

Its still good tv; better than most tv crap.

R.B.Lewis Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM EST

what difference does it really make. either you've got the goods or not. honestly, are any of those people REALLY that talented? (including the judges)

R.B.Lewis Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM EST

what difference does it really make. either you've got the goods or not. honestly, are any of those people REALLY that talented? (including the judges)

vampirejew Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:24 PM EST

In the end, does it really matter? Think about this:
If someone were going for a writing competition (and lord knows we need better writers) and they had been paid for a small article in a newspaper, should that disqualify them? NO!
Some of the past contestants on American Idol have had the fortune to train. Should that disqualify them? NO! These people are NOT famous nor idols, yet, nor are they known really. Why not give them a chance too. That's IF they deserve it.
I honestly think that the people screening at auditions should STOP LETTING THE CRAP THROUGH TO AUDITION. That just isn't fair to all those who are decent who never get a chance to try out. How fair is that?

Joe Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:57 PM EST

Once a person has attended classes on how to become a professional singer you can't take back that knowledge from them. They have a definate unfair advantage over the other contestants who have not had such traning. They shouldn't be allowed to compete with those who were not given the same level of skills training.

steve Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:28 PM EST

who cares!

tom grattan Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 04:56 PM EST

What's next.. ? Make the NFL only sign walk-ons, prohobit minor league ball players from a chance at the majors ?? Only problem with Idol is the time spent showing idiots who want get on TV by making fools of themselves. I tune in to watch talent. I'll wait until the garbage "audition" shows are over.

john de mai Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:40 PM EST

I think America Idol will have its last season, the same old, old program, I will not spend any more time watching it and I beleive there are many people that are going to do the same. By the way, where are the last 2 seasons contestant winner?? anywhere??
jd

john de mai Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:39 PM EST

I think America Idol will have its last season, the same old, old program, I will not spend any more time watching it and I beleive there are many people that are going to do the same. By the way, where are the last 2 seasons contestant winner?? anywhere??
jd


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