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How (and how not) to sample Michael Jackson

Dec 21, 2007, 04:03 PM | by Simon Vozick-Levinson

Categories: Hip-Hop/Rap, Michael Jackson, Music, Ouch! That was my ear!

Michael Jackson's Thriller: Great pop-soul album, or the greatest pop-soul album? There's a strong case to be made for the latter, no doubt — not that it's being helped any by the useless remixes MJ commissioned for Thriller's upcoming 25th-anniversary deluxe edition, many of which leaked to the 'nets this week. Check out Kanye West's limp twist on "Billie Jean":

Kanye's done some undeniably brilliant work with Jackson samples in the past — see his beats for Jay-Z's "Izzo" (which flipped the Jackson 5's "I Want You Back") and his own "Good Life" (Thriller's "P.Y.T."). Where'd that production genius go on "Billie Jean 2008"? I mean, it sounds fine, I guess — "Billie Jean" will always be an awesome song — but all 'Ye's added is a gratuitous boom-bap backbeat and some silly vocal adlibs ("Yeah... uh-huh... yeah-yeah-yeah... uh... number one!") Halfway through I started wondering if I had accidentally crossed into an alternate universe and cued up the song from this classic Onion story. ("'When I was in the studio mixing and recording, I decided 'Tha Kidd' would work best if I kept all the music and vocals from the original version and then didn't rap over it,' Combs said. 'So what I did is put in a tape with 'Billie Jean' on it, and then I hit record. The thing turned out great.'" Still funny!)

Akon, Fergie, and will.i.am all kicked in passable-yet-pointless remixes of various other Thriller cuts, which are floating around on YouTube for anyone who's interested. However, lest you think I am some sort of sample-hating Grinch — which I am not! — let's move on to a much, much better use of Michael Jackson's catalog. Coincidentally, it comes from Kanye's Chi-town buddy, Rhymefest (a.k.a. the dude who co-wrote "Jesus Walks"). "Never Can Say Goodbye" is the first song we've heard from 'Fest's upcoming MJ-themed mixtape, Man in the Mirror (lyrics occasionally NSFW):

The song's producer (who I believe is named Best Kept Secret) twists the Jackson 5 hit into a wispy, twinkling bit of candyfloss that still hits hard — nice.  Rhymefest's latest rhymefest takes on a few subjects, including emcees who can't stop talking about their supposed drug-slinging résumés: "But how you yap about it, glorify and brag about it/I'da thought you'd be so rich you wouldn't have to rap about it?!" 'Fest's effortless flow and regular-guy steez remind us once again that he really oughta be a bigger star. Perhaps best of all is Talib Kweli's guest verse, wherein we learn that my favorite hip-hop intellectual has been watching VH1's I Love New York! (Dig his shout-out to unjustly-booted nice guy Punk around the 1:58 mark.) No, none of this really has anything to do with Michael Jackson, but it's definitely got me psyched to hear the rest of Man in the Mirror — a couple other offerings are streaming at Rhymefest's MySpace — and, for that matter, 'Fest's promised proper sophomore album, El Che.

Finally, just for kicks, here's my all-time favorite use of an MJ sample, Nas' 1994 "It Ain't Hard to Tell" (some more NSFW lyrics): 

Will anyone ever surpass the one-two punch of Nas' peak-era imagery and producer Large Professor's "Human Nature" spin? Doubtful — but at least we've got better cell phones now than the bangin' early-Clinton-administration brick Nas was clutching...

Jay Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:38 PM EST

Gee jason I wonder why your last name is 'Bonkers' so don't think you should open your mouth. Btw his name is JACKSON. Stephanie T. knock it off.

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Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 11:16 AM EST

*Cosmetologist

Stephanie T. Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 11:15 AM EST

It's been done way, way too many times by Rhianna, The Jungle Brothers (Don't Stop), A.A.F., etc. Jacksons producers knew their sh-t when it came to grooves but what he really needed was a good comestologist to slap him and say that he needed to stop with the plastic surgery. He was fine in 1982 but now he looks like Eddie, Iron Maiden's mascott!

Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 03:34 PM EST

here's a billie jean for the times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26k5DV_dky8

aa Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:57 PM EST

alien ant farm's smooth criminal and rhianna's please don't stop the music. don't know if they qualify as samples but i like 'em.

Sally Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 01:57 AM EST

Sounds like or seems like Jackson may have more control over how this turned out than Kanye. I mean, Jackson owns the property right? So he may have wanted Kanye to step back a bit, it will be interesting to hear what others do with it. I don't hear any Kanye rap. That means Jackson had the last word.

Jason Bonkers Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 10:09 AM EST

This works. Nice picture of Jacko when he looked normal.

Killervirgo Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 04:29 PM EST

What about SWV's sampling of MJ's "Human Nature" for the remix of their song "Right Here"? I think the track still holds up today many years after its release.

Also, Jennifer Lopez's new album Brave has a great sample of the Jackson 5's "I Wanna Be Where You Are" for the song "Gotta Be There".

Killervirgo Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 04:28 PM EST

What about SWV's sampling of MJ's "Human Nature" for the remix of their song "Right Here"? I think the track still holds up today many years after its release.

Also, Jennifer Lopez has a great sample of the Jackson 5's "I Wanna Be Where You Are" for her song "Gotta Be There".

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