To Care or Not to Care: Lupe's fiasco

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Fatima Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 04:32 PM EST

I love Lupe so much, that I would pretty much ignore any stupid thing he does. Its what I do with Kanye, and I am a happier person for it.

Pinch Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 03:12 PM EST

Being as Tribe is my fav group of all time most of my peoples expected me to be up in arms over this lil "mishap". But I never take any sides in any hip hop beefs. Just because people say Lupe's music owes a lot to Tribe doesn't mean he has to go back and listen to their music. Lupe is a breath of fresh air in the current rap climate that's full of pop lock and droppin and supermanning that hoe. Do u Lupe.

Phil Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:48 PM EST

Mardicus I am SO glad you decided to stone me for saying whats wrong with Message Boards. Yes, I take the ENTIRE blame! All of it! Its not like I'm a writer for a well-reknowned national magazine that wastes blog space on my job's web-site on items whose primary basis comes from OTHER blog items on another's web-site? WHY EVER WOULD I DO THAT WHEN I HAVE PLENTY OF ORIGINAL IDEAS WITH WHICH TO BASE MY POSTS ON INSTEAD OF HEARSAY? Oh wait...thats NOT me...thats SOMEONE else. Seriously, don't point fingers if you can't think rationally about something and supporting your claim. If you are a music writer, then you above all people SHOULD KNOW there is no 100% chance of knowing "FNF UP UP AND AWAY" is ACTUALLY Lupe Fiasco since DUH its a message board. It coulda been his assistant, manager or BFF. It doesn't matter cause you don't KNOW & neither does Simon. So to bring that argument here is a waste of time and space. It has NO credibility. If you read it in a blog, IT MUST BE TRUE. *SIGH*

Mad Mardicus Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:42 PM EST

I thought this was a really interesting item and wish PW would post more about hip-hop. Dudes like Phil are why Message Boards get a bad wrap.

As far as Lupe goes, its utterly shocking that he would not only admit to never hearing one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all-time, but appear to take pride in it. As a music writer, I would never confess to sleeping on an album as essential as MM. I thought Food and Liquor was one of the best albums of last year, period, but after this, ahem, fiasco, I can't help but lose a little respect.

JJ Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:47 PM EST

I love PW because of the wide spectrum of subject-matter in the posts. I lurk a lot, commment occassionally and check back a couple of times a day. If you post something I don't care about I go on to the next item. Take a lesson, Phil.

That said, Lupe is over-rated and I don't expect him to know hip-hop chapter and verse off the top of his head...but if he's performing a tribute? I think I might study up.

He def does NOT got the jazz.

Phil Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:52 AM EST

And I've got no problem with accepting the challenge of not posting comments on PopWatch for a week. I've done it plenty of times. I don't even bring a laptop or computer with me when I go away on vacations for over weeks at a time. I'd be willing to accept the challenge if Simon gave mine some thought! And to take Simon's post one step further why not mention Lupe's new single is a boastful ditty called "Superstar"? Surely that could have tied into this item's egocentric center, while also promoting Lupe's latest release, which is available on iTunes.

Phil Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:43 AM EST

I try & contribute thoughtful commentary to whatever PopWatch posts interest me & fortunately I'm not a pigeon-holed idiot that only caters to certain aspects of Pop culture. Do I give Simon a hard time for alot of his posts? SURE, I'll admit that. But to those trying to tell me my opinion is sometimes out of line, I'm a 29 yr. old white gay male who grew up on a balanced diet of ALL pop culture. I preferred listening to A Tribe Called Quest instead of Barbra Stiesand. I like jeans & a t-shirt over an over-priced Italian suit. I dont have to justify myself to anyone, but I comment on Simon's posts cause eventhough I give him a hard time, I am a white male who DOES KNOW what he is talking about MOST of the time. Thats why I throw it back at him. I try & be respectful. And I still stand by my original post, how many Popwatch readers OWN Lupe's 1st cd (I DO.) or even care he's putting out a new one before the end of the year? I doubt many.

Josh Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:39 AM EST

Wow, how will the world ever start spinning again?

What a complete non-story. It's a little ridiculous to stop liking Artist A because s/he doesn't like Artist B and even says nasty things about them.

Joshua Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:02 AM EST

I thought I was the only person who was infuriated by Lupe's flub, and this was PRIOR to me knowing that he actually brags about not having heard MM. I've now officially disowned Lupe. Skate away, troll, skate away.

And to Phil: Guess what EW readers care about less than Simon's hip-hop posts? Your response to Simon's hip-hop posts. Shut your hole if you don't have anything of substance to contribute.

Fee A. Sco Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:51 AM EST

Umm, Phil, I dare YOU to go a week without commenting on popwatch.

sher Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:19 AM EST

i noticed this when i watched the show tuesday night. i kept rewinding that line, but it was so garbled, i couldn't understand what the eff lupe said. what exactly was it?

Nena Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:32 AM EST

co-sign, Kizzy!

I don't think this was a pointless post. Fiascogate is a big deal in the community, so if EW! is supposed to be about all things entertainment, then why not talk about it? And better that it's Simon, and not someone unfamiliar with Tribe, Lupe or what's going on.

Kizzy Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 07:37 AM EST

I am actually glad to see somo hip hop related posts. There aren't enough on here to get upset about. This particular subject, however, is a little lacking. I heard about the "controversy" but it didn't move me to care. Although Lupe is a little out of line (considering his target audience) he can be a jerk just like all of the others.

Phil Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:03 AM EST

Simon, you must put your editor THROUGH it when he reads your posts. I understand your frustration since "Electric Relaxation" is probably my FAVE Tribe song, like EVER, and not only do I have the Midnight Marauders cd, but I still have the cassette single of "Electric Relaxation"! BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT anymore than 1 out of 10 EW readers & or bloggers (if you're THAT lucky) care about Lupe Fiasco or this fiasco to say the least. Seriously, I almost challenege you to go one weke without making some hip-hop related post on here. I really don't think you can do it, although I just think it is ammusing that you keep blogging about items such as this, cause it just keeps giving me something to laugh at. Seriously can you go one week without a pointless hip-hop post? But before I sound too bitter, I will admit I did enjoy your album review of Jay-Z's American Gangster over the weekend!! That was DEF. relevant to EW readers.

idigress Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 08:36 PM EST

I noticed the flub and I noticed Q-Tip giggle a bit. I was not aware of this Lupe kerfuffle, but he needs to chill and listen to the album! It is one of hip hop's best.

ceej Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 06:03 PM EST

Even tho' you can hardly tell the flub, Lupe should put take his head out of his ass and stop dissin' the Tribe. You just don't eff with Ali Shaheed Muhammad.