'The View' gets a little Whoopier...

Ron Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:40 PM EST

I can't believe Whoopy or should I say Whippey would stoop to pulling out the race card for Michael Vick. That whole comment about "coming from the south" is about as plausible as everyboyd in Texas lives on a ranch and rides horses. I've living in the "south" and have NEVER been exposed to dog fighting. Please whoopi, I give you more credit than that. Or is this the same mentality that was used on the oj simpson trail. Defend him because he is black or so are we. Please it just shows your mob mentality. Real people can think individually and form their own unbiased opinion. I suggest you guys wake before the illegal aliens take over and turn the tables on you too.

Growl Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 07:19 PM EST

It really aggravates me that somebody else is defending this jerk! He has zero feelings for anybody but himself. He should go to jail like all animal abusers and killers!!

From Virginia Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 02:44 PM EST

Folks....you don't torture, electrocute, drown or otherwise kill anything with a FACE unless:
You intend to eat it.
It is trying to kill YOU or your loved ones.
What is so hard to understand about this?
It is not a "cultural thing" - it is the act of an amoral person.

CG Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 09:21 AM EST

Let's get this straight. While I do not believe it was in his upbringing, that is no excuse. Vick knew it was wrong. He bought the property because it was isolated. They had the fights under cover of night. He denied being involved in everything. He knew it was wrong!!

Tish Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 09:17 AM EST

Lala your arguements make no sense and you contradict yourself over and over again. Also, I wonder how you can speak for all these hunters and know how many do eat the meat. No animals life should be valued over anothers? Are you a vegan? Do you eat plants? Oh yeah, DOG FIGHTING IS AGAINST THE LAW !!!!!!!!!!!!

To Lala Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 09:12 AM EST

O.K. These dogs are bred to fight. Fighting is torture. He strangled and electrocuted dogs. I do not support hunting either, but there are many differences. People do not breed deer to be tortured. I also think the object is to kill with one shot (again, I disapprove). People eat the meat. I don't understand your comparison. I have a dog. I don't hunt. I'm not white. I don't get you. Dogs are domestic animals, not wild animals. You haven't heard one legitimate arguement because you have a warped sense of reality!

Morgan Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 08:50 AM EST

How does Whoopi know it's part of the culture. DId she participate. I do know that Jesus is part of the culture yet he just found him last week!!!

Rashaan Zeal Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 05:41 AM EST

People it is called freedon of speech and Whoopi is entitled to that. She did not agree with what Vick particpated it she only stated a truth that many people fail to realize. Whoopi is still cool as ice and anything is better than that blob O'Donnell....I mean let's keep it real...STEP AWAY from the TWINKIES Rosie!!!! Whoopi keep up the good work and keep these simple minded individuals talking.....you have done the job you were supposed to do.

Stephen (sorry again) Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 08:24 PM EST

Just noticed, a lot of people complained about Whoopie's hiring, but she's got people talking!

Bri Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 04:21 PM EST

I'm already bored with this season. I hope the new person that is coming on the show is more interesting. It's just too bland and scripted right now. And if you listened to Whoopie carefully she wasn't really condoning what Vick did, she was just saying that in certain cultures have different views. Not that this is any excuse for what he did (which she also said today).

Jane Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 03:57 PM EST

TO MARCIA:
I have to respond to your completely ignorant statement that "it's possible animal cruelty is punishable in the south as well". Do you think we're all just a bunch of un-educated, toothless yokels or something? haha I know this may shock you, but not only is animal cruelty punishable here just as it is everywhere else, but we also are required to wear shirts and shoes when we go into public places. Shocking, I know.
As many others, including myself, have already said- I have lived in the south my entire life, and didn't even really know what all went on with dogfighting until this case. I have heard of dogfighting only by seeing random headlines over the years here and there, but it's just a completely FOREIGN concept to me. And here I live in the dirty south!

jason Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 02:28 PM EST

i watched on tuesday and wednesday. i am SADDENED to read the posts. i am not going to be a part of either side, but i heard what she said, and i UNDERSTAND what she was saying. if you did not hear it first hand, then you may not hear the truth. PLEASE listen to what people say and UNDERSTAND them. it is truly a sad day reading these posts. that's all

Stephen Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 02:04 PM EST

THANKYOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Anyway, that's the story I think of when I read these posts arguing over hunting and its difference between dog fighting.

Coach's Mistress Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 01:47 PM EST

I find it interesting that nobody is discussing the fact that Vick had to sign character agreements with the NFL and/or the Falcons. I know these teams preach to their players about gang culture and being role models even if they don't want to be viewed as such. You can't tell me that Vick was so ignorant because of his "southern" upbringing that he didn't know any better. Granted, I'm sure there are people who don't know any better, but you can't argue that Vick is one of them...no way. Someone who has traveled the country first class and has stayed in the best hotels, a lavish lifestyle, cannot possibly be defended by the "he didn't know any better" argument.

to Stephen who needs help Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 01:43 PM EST

The story is "The Most Dangerous Game."

Stephen (Can someone help?) Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 01:28 PM EST

I can't think of the title of a short story I read in middle school, about a man who releases people into the woods and hunts them...Crap it's bugging me, and spoiler, at the end the hunted guy pretended to swim off the island, only to return and feed the hunter to his dogs. PLEASE TELL ME BEFORE I GO NUTS!!

M Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:54 PM EST

Everybody arguing "Dogfighting is rampant down South!!!" is missing the point of how surprisingly urbanized Vick's hometown is. Newport News is Virginia's 5th largest city, it is not Podunk, Georgia. The dogfighting culture would not be found unless you were searching it out.

sg Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:46 PM EST

Actually everyone, Whoopi had a conversation w/ PETA last night, who she has a longstanding relationship with, and clarified her comments today on the View. She apologized and she in way defends his actions.

Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:25 PM EST

Whoopi was simply stating a fact. That's all. It was not her opinion that dogfighting is subculture of the south. It was a fact. She was presenting this fact as a possible explanation for how Michael Vick could do what he did. She was not presenting a defense of what he did.

mia Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:25 PM EST

to You are Mistaken - well your name certainly says it all doesn't it?

Yes, she most definiately was defending Vick. You don't want to admit it because to you dog fighting/torturing/murder and cockfighting are nothing but harmless hobbies.

pathetic.

Mo Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:19 PM EST

Michael Vick deserves whatever he gets, but these "just for sport" hunters are no better, killing just for the enjoyment of it is sick.

And the worst are these weirdo's, like our vice president, that go to these hunting resorts that release animals in front of the "hunters", and let them fire away. Why can't these freaks just go skeet shooting? I wish journalists would grill Cheney about why he likes to engage in this disgusting activity.

This Is Why Barak Won't Win Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:07 PM EST

These comments just show how far we have to go in this country in regards to intelligently talking about issues and looking at and discussing cultural differences. All I have seen is hate and "passion" arguing rather than discussing issues..and this is supposed to be a country progressive enough to elect a black President.

M Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:59 AM EST

You know it's a sound national discussion on our regional discrepancies when you have two cents chimed in from a Hollywood Squares refugee! If Whoopi keeps stereotyping the South, I might have to tell Uncle Remus on her.

To GeeMoney Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:59 AM EST

How do you know that these same people would not be just as, if not more, upset about child molestor's, rapists and murderers? Why can't we be able to be upset about both? We can find animal cruelty disgusting AND still find time to find all the cruelty to other humans disgusting. It isn't that big of a stretch. The topic here is animal cruelty, so that is what people are talking about. That doesn't mean we don't care about other injustices in the world. :)

sosgemini Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:49 AM EST

Why are people *still* saying Whoopie defended Vick? Good lord people...stop being blind sheep and actually watch what she said.

Mariane Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:46 AM EST

Vick is from Newport News, Va. That is hardly the "deep south." It's a shipping town. Vick and his brother have always been in scrapes. Everyone was afraid to straighten them out while they were in high school and college because they were football stars and got a pass on everything, although it finally caught up with the brother.

GeeMoney Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:41 AM EST

Maybe all of you bloggers on this site should make a bigger deal about child molesters or rapists and murderers and not about some guy fighting a dog in southern VA!

And leave Whoopi alone... everyone has a right to their opinion.

GeeMoney Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:39 AM EST

It's really sad when we live in a country where more people get upset about dog fighting than they do about people (aka human beings) getting killed.

david Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:31 AM EST

To echo what a few others have said, I grew up in the Deep South and NEVER felt that dog-fighting was acceptable. Whoopi's comment that she would be less forgiving if Mike Vick was a New Yorker incensed me. Southerners are not a bunch of ignorant simpletons who cannot help themselves. All people are responsible for their own actions; if you break the law, you risk the consequences. In addition, even though it doesn't apply in this case, just because something is culturally acceptable doesn't make it more forgivable. Some Muslim cultures practice female circumcision. I'd like to here someone defend that.

you are mistaken Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:30 AM EST

Mia-Ive come to the conclusion that you are either letting your passion cloud your view, you didnt see the program, or maybe you're just not able to comprehend.

She never said Vick was RIGHT, never defended him, but she provided perspective to people who might think this was a one time incident, or that Vick must be an overtly evil person to do this.

Do you have any idea how common cockfighting is? These things are accepted sport in certain regions, and thats what she spoke to. She NEVER said dogfighting was right, in fact she said "some people dont regard dogs & cats as WE DO". So if she was advocating dog fighting, why include herself there?

Its like you want to be comfortable in the thought that no one out there does things you are unfamiliar with. There are different morals, different ways of problem solving. We(media, consumers) let Don Imus blame rappers for his vocabulary without batting an eye. Yet balk when 1 person says there is a cultural diff. in America.

Dav Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:20 AM EST

People can we learn how to truly "TALK" about an issue. If someone makes a point respond to that point..don't continue with the same babble that was just debunked in an earlier post. Read the posts before writing your own, because I am still not seeing enough Vick bashers speak on the hypocrisy of animal cruelty on all levels which is what this issue should be about. Don't tell me just because "some" hunters eat their deer meat it excuses the cruelty of hunting because no one here will say that if Vick ate dog meat than it would be excused. So get rid of the bogus defense. And I don't care if they use rifles or bows you are still killing an innocent animal just as you folks want to say that Vick was harming "innocent" dogs. One can not be villified and the other accpeted at least not with the arguments I am seeing.

I think the true difference is that many of you know hunters and can not face condemming someone you actually know versus crucifiying and man you have never met.

mia Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 11:05 AM EST

so Whoopie thinks dogfighting is fine because it is supposedly part of the southern US culture? well, so is racism. I take it she is fine and dandy with that too??

And yes, we WAS defending Vick. And in doing so, she made it crystal clear she advocates the torture and murder of dogs for sport. I will never tune into The View while she is employed there.

Marcia Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:59 AM EST

Whether or not dogfighting is part of a culture, Michael Vick has been around long enought to know that even in the south it is not legal. Bottom line, he broke the law in both having it, gambling on it, and killing those animals. Also, it is probably true that animal cruelty is a punishable in the south also.
The only excuse for what he did, is that he thought he could get away with it because he's a big bad football player.

Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:56 AM EST

Whoopi never 'defended' Michael Vick, But she said the truth. Mike vick is going to jail, so isn't it important to find out how different segments of the population are living? THIS WAS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
You cant change a problem if you're ignorant about it. Whoopi never said he was RIGHT, she shed light on how a different segment of the population lives.

Peter said there is a difference between pets (dogs, cats) & meat you eat(chicken), but THATS cultural. Some people do eat cats, and some would NEVER kill a cow. Im not speaking to torturing animals here, but you MUST realize that everone doesnt eat the same meat. Some people eat snakes, others rats & cockroaches. My family eats goat (mutton). You do keep them as pets at first, but eventually you have to kill them on the farm. Its the natural cycle..where do you think you're thanksgiving turkey came from?
I think animal torture is wrong, but you must understand people's perspectives b4 u educate them. Thats what Whoopi

From Virginia Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:51 AM EST

I grew up in the area of Virginia where Vick ( and his thug of a brother) come from. Dog fighting IS NOT a part of any culture there except for GANG culture.
Anyone who thinks dog fighting is a "southern thing" and acceptable in ANY sense of the word is sorely in need of a brain transplant.
I bet Whoopi is be back peddling today - doing some 'slpaining what she REALLY meant.
And I thought ED on BB8 was the bottome of the barrell.

VA resident Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:42 AM EST

In defense of Whoopi, she wasn't stereotyping the entire south. Like it or not, dog fighting is a prominent subculture of many areas of the world, including the American South. I'm from Virginia, and there was a very informative article about dog fighting in The Virginian Pilot, the local newspaper of Hampton Roads, where Michael Vick is from (so am I ). http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=126838&ran=241086

To quote a little from the article's author: "Though dogfighting remains primarily a Southern phenomenon, the center of gravity in recent years apparently has shifted eastward. Today, if there’s a dogfighting capital in the United States, it may be North Carolina."

melani Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:41 AM EST

"exceptionally understanding defense of Michael Vick"

There was nothing "exceptional" about it. There are MANY people in the U.S. that find it telling America values animal lives more than it does humans. Ive never been to a dog fight, but its funny that if Vick killed a human being, or RAPED a woman, he'd be experiencing a WHOLE lot less public censure.
If he was white, Im not even sure the outrage would be this big.
Dogfighting is HUGE in the south & its cultural. And not among the poor, but among the VERY rich, very elite & many times White. No one cares about that, bec. for a nanosecond we have the wealthy degenerate we can be united in villifying.
Truthfully cockfighting is even bigger, esp. in the carribbean & many parts of the US. There are Puerto RIcans & Haitians who sacrifice animals as part of their religion, we eat animals everyday & wear them.
The uproar over this case is hypocritical.
Use it to educate people, not to ignore a huge segment of the population

southern gurl Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:32 AM EST

hot dang you gots a cumpewtur? me and my pa waulk lotsa myles to tha viladge in the libary! Er, the libarie en the vellaje.

Southern Boy Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:22 AM EST

Yeh, we sur dum and unkulchered hear were Vick livs, and peppel think I uppity cuz I can use cumpooter

Joe C Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 10:14 AM EST

I am a dog lover who finds what Michael Vick did abhorrent. But Whoopi is entitled to her opinion. It is part of Southern culture(trust me, I have lived here all of my life). On Animal Planet, whenever a dogfighting ring would be exposed, it was in the South. Ugh....
Anyway, I will be off one day next week, and for the first time in a while I will turn on the View now that Miss Annoying Rosie has left. Whoopi is cool and will work out fine, no matter how much the EW writers pine for Rosie(does she own some EW stock?) I mean, yall sure do worship her. Maybe she'll take over your mag one day and then you will all be happy.

sosgemini Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 09:41 AM EST

Whoopie never defended Vick...she was simply pointing out that his cultural upbringing allowed him to think dogfighting was not wrong...She even pointed out that he now understands its wrong. Why all of you (and the media) are trying to say she was defending him or dismissing his actions is beyond me.

Get a clue!!!

Maeve Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 09:30 AM EST

So regarding Whoopi, I think it is completely reckless and irresponsible (as opposed to controversial) to make excuses for someone who participated in dogfighting. Therefore, I'm done with Whoopi.

me Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 09:22 AM EST

Most of the hunters I know, do actually kill the animal for food. Yes, there are "sport" hunters out there, but talk to a "real" hunter and they will go on and on about the taste of fresh meat, making their own sausage, etc.
And, it's not always high powered rifles, "blowing an animals head off," bow hunting is quite popular as well.

Stephanie T. Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 09:18 AM EST

What Whoopi meant was that where Vick comes from, they don't know any better. To them this vile act is similar to Greyhound Racing in Florida. Greyhounds are bred for speed, agility, and lung capcity. However, they lack temperment. If a hound cannot make the cut or if it is old, in some cases they are killed. This is why there are Greyhound rescuses all across the country.

gina Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 09:10 AM EST

I'm reading these comments and I'm a little saddened by the posts about since dogs are overpopulated, we should let dogfighting continue. And that somehow hunting is like dogfighting. I'm not a hunter, nor am I huge fan of it. But coming from a Northern state, I certainly understand the need for hunting. Let's talk about deer for a moment. Over the years, we've unfortunately forced out most of the deers natural predators. Deer continue to thrive even in urban environments. If it wasn't for hunting season, we'd have an overpopulation that would cause many deer to starve. I'm not for people going out with automatic rifles to hunt, because I don't think its a sport any longer. But most hunters I know are extremely responsible individuals that eat what they hunt. And they are not torturing them before killing them over and over again. And they are not training them to kill other items through means of abuse. That's the difference.

Maeve Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 09:08 AM EST

I don't agree with hunting either, but here are some other major differences between deer hunting and dogfighting:
- hunters don't tie deer up to "rape stands"
- hunters don't use kittens and smaller (terrified) animals to antagonize deer and make them more aggressive
- hunters usually try to kill the deer quickly instead of letting them tear each other apart with their teeth
- hunting is legal, dogfighting is not

There is NO excuse for Vick's behavior.

matchkitjohn Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 08:46 AM EST

Bottomline. Mike should have taken up hunting instead because its legal. See you in 18-24 months Mikey!

samantha Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 08:22 AM EST

I thought Whoopi was kind of flat yesterday - I DVRed the show and watched last night. I also thought the defense of Vick was LAME. I mean, if I am from the south is it ok to be prejudiced against black people because that is part of the culture? I don't think so. Part of being an adult is realizing that what your parents do is not the right thing - i.e. racism, dogfighting, drinking or whatever. Just because my granfather still refers to black people as "coloreds" doesn't mean I should!

Karla Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 08:19 AM EST

This is obviously a publicity stunt. Who even knew, besides die-hard fans, that Whoopi started on the show? There was not one bleep about it in the media. Until now.

Jane Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 07:33 AM EST

I just read Janet's comment about what actually went on, and I had to post again. That turned my blood cold- if anyone has not read it yet go and read what Janet wrote. Oh my God, HOW could any human being do that? If anyone, I don't care where they're from, has it in them to use little dogs as "bait", then kill big dogs who won't maim or kill the little ones.....anyone that is able to do something that cruel is a heartless ba$t*rd. And LaLa- I agree that hunting is cruel, and I think it shoudl be illegal, but there is absolutely a difference. What Vick did goes WAY beyond what any hunter does, and you can't deny it. This goes for any kind of murder- it's always a lot worse when someone tortures their victim then kills them in a horrific way,rather than just shooting them. That's just common sense. Anyone who tortures a living thing is a monster, whether it be a dog, bird, or person.

Also to LaLa Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 07:29 AM EST

so based on your theory, we should just randomly kill dogs due to overpopulation b/c OWNERS (i.e. HUMANS!!!) are too IRRESPONSIBLE and IGNORANT to spay or neuter?? what about cats, should we take out all outdoor cats b/c they MIGHT be strays? Also, if the deer population gets too large, it starts to threaten HUMAN lives as they run out onto roads and highways randomly and can cause serious or even fatal accidents. get your head out of the sand. vick is a moron and he LIED about what he did. he deserves anything and everything he gets.

To LaLa Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 07:24 AM EST

Here's justifying hunting - PEOPLE EAT THE MEAT THEY HUNT. there's the difference. were vick and his friends eating the dog meat? doubt it.

Jane Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 07:22 AM EST

I am from the "deep south", Memphis, TN, and let me tell you- dogfighting is NOT considered ok down here. I've lived here my entire life, and have never even heard of dogfighting going on from anyone I know. I've read about it occurring, obviously, but not known anyone who even knew anyone who participated. So it's not a "southern thing", but it IS a cultural thing. You don't need to watch an episode of Cribs on mtv to know that overwhelmingly, it is a certain sect of African-Americans who see this as a sport. Not always, but statistics prove that it is usually popular among blacks, and not just in the South. It's not racist, it's just an indisputable statistical fact. So don't blame it on the South, Whoopi. Everyone I know down here is horrified by what Michael Vick did.
And for the record, I also am NOT a believer in hunting as a sport, either. But there is a difference between shooting an animal from far away, and TORTURING an animal, then electrocuting it.

JohnO Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 07:04 AM EST

I miss Rosie

Dav Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:53 AM EST

LaLa is exactly right!!

I am sorry Peter but that was the worse defense of hunting I have ever read in my life! It was totally ridiculous. Are you really trying to say that dog fighting is more harsh and cruel than a man blowing off a deer's head with a rifle. These are both acts of animal cruelty and injustice yet no one, other than LaLa, is saying this. If we are going to crucify Vick, as people are doing, than let's take a look at animal cruelty on every level not just dog violence. And come on... in 2007 are you really trying to convince adults that we still have to "hunt" for our food? Are you kidding me?
In regards to Whoopi..come down people. If you actually listen to her comments she did not "defend" Vick. She was trying to answer the question "how could someone do this?" Which is what everyone has been asking and she answered it by saying it was a cultural mindset. Again not defending him at all, but rather discussing how someone can commit an act unimaginable to others

LaLa Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:43 AM EST

If we don't kill deer there would be too many of them and they would wander into the street and injure our cars. Bob Barker got on the TV every day and warned us to spay and neuter. We dont so there are too many dogs. If you can justify hunting deer then you should accept fighting dogs. Im not for fighting dogs but the two are oddly the same to me.

LaLa Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:34 AM EST

Most hunters dont eat their kill so your theory is flawed. They hunt for the sport and no animal's life should be valued over anothers. I am glad however that you took the time to show us exactly how exactly idiotic your ideas are. It doesnt fly. Sorry.

Peter Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 12:28 AM EST

Uhh...actaully, as an animal lover, I can easily identify the difference, even if I do not agree with hunting unless you are eating your kill.

Dear, game animals, etc, are food sources.

Dogs are pets.

It's not that hard to see the difference when your not pushing some inane agenda.

Now if your just shooting animals for the hell of it, that's not for me, but there is still a difference.

Dogs are domesticated. They serve little purpose besides companionship.

And hunter's don't starve animals and force them to fight each other to the death. So that's another point right there.

basically

Hunting = wrong but morally ambiguous due to the possibilty of eating your kill

Dog Fighting = can serve no purpose at all, is brutally inhuman, and targets animals bred only for companionship.

see, it's easy when your not blinded by your idiotic biases!

LaLa Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 11:57 PM EST

Emotional ranting from dog owners who still can't justify hunting as sport. It is somehow ok to hunt an innocent deer but not ok to train a dog to fight. Hunters claim over population as a reason for killing innocent creatures. Why isnt overbreeding an excuse for dog fighting? No one has offered one legitimate argument why these two things aren't similar. I too feel that fighting dogs is horrible behavior but I understand the hypocrisy of allowing hunting of any kind as a sport. Our current VP shot his best friend hunting quail, but dogs are somehow valued over those animals. Shame on you!

Michelle Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 11:38 PM EST

Gee thanks Whoopi for adding yet ANOTHER stereotype to the South. I have been here all my life and I have never heard of dog cruelty being acceptable. I have just watched my last episode of The View. I love Joy Behar and loved the look that she gave Whoopi when she made such a STUPID STUPID remark, if she supports Michael Vick, then I will NOT support any show or movie that she ever does again!!

donner Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 11:19 PM EST

Did she say this, just to get folks talking about the show? Does she really feel this way? Is she REALLY that stupid???? I'm making a list of all the idiots who support that creep who killed those dogs and I will not be supporting their shows/movies/music...I have better places to spend my money than on idiots who find killing dogs acceptable and 'just a cultural thing'...screw you...

sam Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 11:02 PM EST

Yes, Whoopie, those days are gone--along with the days when you were funny, relevant and intelligent. Just cancel it before any more damage is done.

Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 10:57 PM EST

Only protect the cute animals, right? I'm sure iguana fighting would be more acceptable.

Janet Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 10:42 PM EST

I forgot one other very important thing. The dogs that break loose and maim and kill children and adults are very likely dogs that have been at least partially trained for dog fighting. Dog fighting is cruelty breeding cruelty and is a danger to animals AND humans. I am shocked at Whoopi's ignorance.

Janet Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 10:32 PM EST

Whoopi just lost a fan bigtime. And to LaLa - since when is animal TORTURE (did you miss that part of the story?) OK? Big dogs are tortured to GET them to fight and little dogs are tortured and killed as bait to train the big dogs. MOST of these dogs are stolen from loving pet owners. These are some of the reasons dog fighting is ILLEGAL. In addition, Mr. Vick admitted to killing uncooperative dogs, i.e, those that would not maim and kill other dogs, in cruel ways which I will not detail here.

Michael Vick Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 10:20 PM EST

Great choice Barbara!

Coach's Mistress Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 10:00 PM EST

Ugh...I was really wanting to like Whoppi on the show, but she blew it right off the bat. How ignorant is she going to make southerners look??? I'm from the south, and it's not part of anybody's culture that I know or have heard of. Isn't the Klan predominantly in the south...is that acceptable??? Duh, I didn't know it was socially unacceptable to burn this cross in a yard! Her argument was incredibly weak. I think she was just trying to pull a Rosie right out of the gates, but instead of appearing controversial she just came off as stupid. Try again, Whoppi.

Silv Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 09:53 PM EST

Booorrrriiinnnngg!!!

LaLa Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 09:51 PM EST

Dogs are animals. And white people are way too attached to them, of course not when it comes to shooting bambi, then thats a God given right protected by the Constitution. Ironic isn't it?

Katie Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 09:44 PM EST

Whoopie's already ticked me off way more than Rosie ever did. Torturing animals is no more excusable as a part of southern culture as slavery was. Any person capable of even a modicum of compassion understands that hurting another sentient being is wrong.

yawn Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 09:39 PM EST

Barbara told a reporter they're announcing the other host soon. Hmmm...Could it be Sherry Shepherd? Gah, now I need to find something new to watch, and Tyra and Rachael suck.

Wondering Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 08:45 PM EST

Just because it's "part of the culture" still doesn't mean it's legal. Am I just out of the loop?
Is there a southern state where this kind of thing is legal?

Snarf Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 07:56 PM EST

Have to wonder what was going trough Barbara's mind as Whoopi started to defend Vick.