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'Sopranos' insiders debunk conspiracy theories

Jun 12, 2007, 05:11 PM | by Gary Susman

Categories: 'The Sopranos', Rumor Control, TV Ratings

Aid_l I'm almost sorry we're still talking about this, but then again, Sunday's Sopranos finale drew almost 12 million viewers, making it the second most watched show on broadcast or cable last week (behind only America's Got Talent). Anyway, while viewers continue to rewind their DVRs in search of clues, we can put a few burning questions to rest, now that series creator David Chase has briefly broken his silence, and now that Adriana herself has spoken to EW.com.

"Anybody who wants to watch it, it's all there," said Chase — who's granted one and only one post-finale interview, to Alan Sepinwall, TV critic at New Jersey's own Star-Ledger newspaper — about possible clues in the finale. He insisted that the purpose of the blackout was not to frustrate viewers or to leave the door open for a Sopranos movie, a project he said he doubts he will ever be inspired to write. Beyond that, he said he wants the episode's content to speak for itself. "I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there."

Meanwhile, there's a popular theory circulating via e-mail that there were as many as three hitmen in the diner — the two African-American men (supposedly the guys who once tried to carjack Tony), and the Italian-looking guy in the Members Only jacket. According to this theory, that's "Nikki Leotardo," a supposed nephew of Phil's, and his trip to the men's room may have been to recover a gun stashed there, Michael Corleone-style. ("Members Only" is also the title of the episode in which Uncle Junior shot Tony.) The blackout, then, represents Tony's sudden death at "Nikki"'s hands, a moment in which, just as Bobby had once surmised, you don't hear your assailant coming, and everything just suddenly goes black. Nice theory, but in the credits, the mysterious fellow is simply referred to as "Man in Members Only jacket." Sepinwall pretty thoroughly demolishes the claims at the end of his article (Members Only guy had never acted on the show before, and Tony killed one of the carjackers), and there's more debunking in this TV Barn thread.

One who briefly entertained but now dismisses this theory is Drea De Matteo (pictured), to whom EW's Shirley Halperin spoke after last night's Maroon 5 concert at New York's Bowery Ballroom. The erstwhile Adriana said of the episode, "I loved it. I thought it was an amazing way to end it. It was so David Chase. But I got the craziest e-mail [the one referred to above], saying he was dead, and I believed it. Especially the part about everything fading to black, and the Members Only jacket, all that symbolism. Now, I don't really think he died, but it doesn't matter. I know people are hating it, but I thought it was perfect." She added, "I'm gonna go on the Internet tonight and read all this s---."

Pauluch Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:52 PM EST

Ok people TONY SOPRANO is DEAD!!!!, the real fans know that. Here are a few easy clues. 1: Tony's conversation with Bobby,
"9 times out of 10 guys like me, either end up in the can or in the ground. 2: same conversation "everything goes black when you get whacked". 3: the guy in the members only jacket, if you noticed every made guy in the series had a bracelet and a pinky ring every one except for Chris.
So did that guy, which means he is a wisewguy. And no the gun was not planed in the bathroom why would it, nobody knew where they were going to meet. and the niggers had nothing to do with it by the way so, stop yanking it T IS DEAD!!

Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 03:54 AM EST

"...it goes on and on and on and on..."
The point is to take it how you will.

Stones Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 07:42 PM EST

More info on the Nikki Leotardo hoax can be found here. Some fan created it all...

http://overthetop.beloblog.com/archives/2007/06/on_the_trail_of.html#more

www.gonzorangers.com

A Chase Fan Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 07:07 PM EST

A perfect ending to a perfect show. I didn't need to see what happened next. I have an imagination and can come up with my own opinion. I don't need Chase to paint it for me unlike the legions of angry Soprano fans.

Prime Real Estate Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 11:49 AM EST

I agree with the Audience got whacked theory. Tony was too calm considering what threats surrounded him, or so we thought. The threats surrounded us. Tony was having us whacked. The guy goes into the bathroom, we turn to see Meadow coming in from the front door of the restaurant, the guy pops out of the bathroom and whacks us. Bobby explains to us what its going to be like when we die. At the end of the day, we knew too much, and we were the biggest liability on Tony's hands.

jj Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 10:19 AM EST

Tony looked up at Meadow as she ran in, she ran in because she saw someone approaching Tony with a gun (he doesn't have anyone sitting beside him). AJ and Carmela as usual are too preoccupied with their own selves to realize. It cuts to black silence abruptly because Tony is shot dead.

TimT Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:37 AM EST

I think what happened is that WE, the audience, got whacked.

Gentry Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:21 PM EST

Although the ending was slightly a copout, I think Chase says what he has to. 1) At the restaurant, Tony talks to Carmela about Carlo testifying. 2) We have the ominous threat of a whacking. What Chase is saying is that Tony has to live with the threat of either incarceration or assasination. It doesn't really matter if we see it. That threat is hanging over him forever. The more important tie-in is that the dinner with his family is very reminiscent of the end of Season One. Where Tony and family have a nice moment at Vesuvio, after coming in from the storm. That's what this whole series was about - Family. Not murders.

GT Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:52 PM EST

While I agree that everyone has their own opinion I am not sure how a better ending (not that this one was perfect) could have been created. Would people really rather have had Meadow come in and sit down and then have the camera pull back on the family and fade to black as the song ends? That is way worse and totally cheeze.

I think Chase was in an almost impossible situation and came up with something very different and interesting.

Rose Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:32 PM EST

Just one more note on the topic and then I think I've said all there is to say on this. If you hated it that's fine. If you loved it that's fine. I can't understand why the two camps have to go on and on about how wrong the other side is. Can't people just have thier own tastes and opinions without having to negate those who don't feel the same way?

Paulie Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:18 PM EST

Came across this alternative ending prepared by Maxim...

Check it out: http://www.maximonline.com/ExclusiveSopranosFinaleAlternateEnding/video/973.aspx?src=ddn28

Rose Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 03:12 PM EST

I'm really glad that all of us who thought the ending was brilliant are coming out of the wood works now...on Monday I thought I was the only one!

BobCT Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 01:33 PM EST

That was a awful and lame ending to a landmark series, and it pisses me off even more reading David Chase's cavalier "I don't have to explain myself" justification for pulling that crap on the fans of this show.

me Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 01:18 PM EST

Morons! This was not a plot-driven show; it was about so much more than who killed who. I especially can't believe there are theories going around about what "really" happened at the end. Nothing "really" happened to Tony or anyone else -- its fiction, people! Go back to reading Harry Potter and STFU.

KingLouieXVIII Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:45 PM EST

I'm with you GLENN. If LOST ends like this, I'm going to be pissed!

DR. KRAKOWER: The whole "let the audience decide for themselves" argument is about as new as a Paris Hilton tape. It's been done in countless movies and television shows before. I can remember ANGEL having a similar ambiguous ending, and I'm sure there's been countless other that I'm unaware of. What a cop-out by Chase! Have some balls and give the audience a definitive ending.

Scott M. Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:07 PM EST

I can't believe all the people opining about the gun in the bathroom thing don't remember that Pacino had to stash the gun in the bathroom because he was searched and in the restaurant alone. Why would the Members Only guy have to go to the bathroom to get a gun? There weren't any bodyguards or anything... He would have just walked up to Tony and shot him and walked out.

Tar Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:57 AM EST

I think it did what it was supposed to. ENTERTAINED. Anyway, everyone is still talking about it. I don't have cable and it has got me thinking about buying a season to see what the fuss is about.

Ceballos Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:43 AM EST

diner*

Ceballos Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:41 AM EST

I liked this finale. (and I suspect people that hated it will like it a little better on repeat viewings)I just don't understand why people DEMAND that Chase explain what happened to Tony.


Personally, I think he did a masterful job of staging that scene in the dinner in a way that EITHER interpretation (Tony Lives or Tony Gets Whacked) has validity (I'm personally in the "Tony Lives" camp). Neither side can claim with 100 percent certainty that "their" ending is the right one....what's wrong with that?


Why does Chase have to be a Judge Judy like figure that settles a dispute? No matter what he did, he was never going to satisfy anyone, so why not get people talking and let them decide for themselves how it ended.


I mean, from the tone of some of the complainers, I get the feeling that if Chase came over to their house and cooked them a five-course meal, they would DEMAND that he feed it to them...with a spoon.

GT Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:59 AM EST

Dave, personally I don't think Tony was killed at the end (just my opinion). Either way I think there is no way the Member's Only Guy would have shot him. I mean if you are going to hit the head of the NJ mob you don't go into the restaurant and sit there for awhile and order coffee and talk to the waitress so that people can see you and identify you later. It would be more like Bobby or The Hairdo's murder, where the guy walks in takes the shot, drops the gun and leaves.

Dr. Krakower Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:27 AM EST

I applaud Chase for refusing to explain the scene. This isn't "Lost," where the creators' product is so convoluted and contrived that they're forced to explain each episode for fans too lazy or unable to figure it out. Nor is "The Sopranos" a series where myriad little clues point to a "mind-bending reveal" in the final episode. "The Sopranos" is a quieter, more contemplative and, yes, ambiguous experience, and has always been so. Chase has respect for his audience, leaving it to them to take what they want from the series. He does not insult them by spelling everything out or explaining "the meaning of it all" to the press. (If he did, then why watch the show in the first place?). Most of the people who don't "get" the ending have simply had the wrong idea about this show from day one.

Dave Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:08 AM EST

The problem with this analysis is that you are bundling the "Nikki Leotardo" theory with the death theory. The Nikki thing was debunked. But the clues are still there for Tony's sudden death by gunshot. The Member's Only tie-in is there. The Godfather references are there (bathroom visit, and an appearance of an orange in the episode.) The Bobby boat conversation is probably the biggest clue. And even though I openly admit it is a stretch...there is an infomercial in the background of one of the scenes for...the "Magic Bullet."

Lisa D Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:47 AM EST

Who cares about the ending? I want David Chase to explain the cat staring at Christopher's picture.

GT Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:30 AM EST

I finally watched the ending and I actually thought it was pretty good. At first I was confused but then I realized that there is no chance of writing an ending that would be satisfying to everyone. Plus in reality we know what the next phase of everyones life is. The fact that there wasn't a big climax fits since the big stuff happened in the episode before with the Family and the last episode is just Tony and his family.

susan Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 06:58 AM EST

hey, last image is of Tonys face, and then it goes to black....WE got whacked!

susan Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 06:55 AM EST

"agent harris" also says it cuts as the guy is advancing to Tony, actually, he walks by and is going to the bathroom, he remembered it wrong, so i don't think Tony gets killed.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/06/the_sopranos_cast_watches_the.html Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:37 AM EST

"Agent Harris" actor hints that Tony was indeed killed. Article at above link

SpecialK Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:28 PM EST

I feel dirty, cheated, and its hard to watch old episodes for me now knowing that David Chases master plan was complete garbage.

Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:03 PM EST

Since Chase can't be bothered to explain the ending, let's refuse to buy anymore Sopranos merchandise, especially the DVD's. Chase certainly gets a nice cut of the sales, hit em' in his pretensious, self absorbed wallet!

Glenn Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:27 PM EST

Never had HBO, so never watched Sopranos and cant relate to the ending. But I can tell you right now, if Lost ends like this 3 years from now I'm gonna be awfully pissed.

Nix Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 07:52 PM EST

Many artistic geniuses, or geniuses at large, are jerks.

sam Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 07:10 PM EST

I think that Chase had written himself into a corner and there were only a few (all unpleasant) ways to go for Tony--so Chase just didn't decide anything and ended it. I don't think that it is particularly profound--maybe it's a bit lazy, but this way half of the people are happy and half are unhappy--and he can be "begged" in the future to make a movie, etc. with a good starting point.

Joe in Philly Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 06:59 PM EST

David Chase: "I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there."
Translation: "Go to hell, audience."

Binky Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 06:08 PM EST

Didn't they make a big point of showing us that the restaurant was chosen at the last moment? It's not the type of place that takes reservations. So when and why would a guy stash a gun in the back?

ceej Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:57 PM EST

This horse is officially dead. Let's stop beating it.

elsie Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:39 PM EST

Hi Gary, this is about your other article for today, which doesn't feature comments. You wrote about Steel Magnolias:

'WHAT'S THE HITCH? In addition to the traditional cake, there's also a ''groom's cake,'' which is shaped like an armadillo, with putty-colored frosting and a blood-red interior. Ewwww. Let's hope that animal-shaped groom's cakes are just a regional custom, confined to a small area.'

Um... I think you're joking, but I'm not sure. For the record, the actual tradition is that the big white cake is the 'bride's cake' and then there's a 'groom's cake' which is chocolate. But it should be a beautiful gourmet cake. Sometimes grooms get their way and have a tacky one, but that's not the standard.

The whole point of that scene is that the wedding is garish and the cake is a hideous outrage. Guests are shocked by it, but too polite to say anything. They'll gossip about it for years though - and real-life southerners still laugh out loud about that 'armadillo cake.'

Gone Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:27 PM EST

That's big of David Chase not wanting to explain any of that crap he put out there in that finale. Whatever.

Sam L Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:19 PM EST

I think the symbolism is intentional, but I don't think Tony died there: the whole point of the series was that we entered in the middle of the family's problems, and that they would go on without us. I also love the new "audience got whacked" theory that's going around now. By the way, Drea de Matteo is just as beautiful in real life--she lives in my neighborhood and I've seen her a few times already. She's incredibly nice, too. :D

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