'Project Runway': The Keith controversy's smoking gun

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fashiongrl Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:00 AM EST

Mel, the name of the fabric store is Mood, not Mod...

Kelley Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:28 PM EST

Books are considered tools to assist in creating something. They are reference tools. I have to agree that most people, upon being caught out usually pause before responding, their face goes blank as they attempt to process the situation and save face; buy time. They usually behave uncharacteristically. I presume that both Keith and Jeffrey, if accused unjustly would have came back swinging and cussing someone out if there wasn't truth to the allegations; that seems to be in their nature. I wouldn't kick Keith out of bed, but I'd give him a fake name and phone number. He doesn't seem like someone I'd want to keep around for long. Handsome, but creepy.

Kelley Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:28 PM EST

Books are considered tools to assist in creating something. They are reference tools. I have to agree that most people, upon being caught out usually pause before responding, their face goes blank as they attempt to process the situation and save face; buy time. They usually behave uncharacteristically. I presume that both Keith and Jeffrey, if accused unjustly would have came back swinging and cussing someone out if there wasn't truth to the allegations; that seems to be in their nature. I wouldn't kick Keith out of bed, but I'd give him a fake name and phone number. He doesn't seem like someone I'd want to keep around for long. Handsome, but creepy.

tastydc Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 10:51 PM EST

Someone earlier made the following statement:

"This is a letter, not a contract, don't you people know the difference. While this might be the cover letter that came with the contract, it has been stated several times in all three seasons that each PR contestant has to sign a contract agreeing to abide by the rules/regulations of PR".
Now why would the content of the contract be different than what is in this letter? Clearly this document does not state "books". Keith comes across as slim shady but he may just be right.

billarious Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 08:29 PM EST

Kayne obviously got busted in Keith's room sniffing his underwear!

billarious Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 08:13 PM EST

After watching the reunion show again and Kayne's reaction, I am certain that Kayne had something to do with setting up Keith. No doubt!!!

Nick Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 09:45 PM EST

I nearly peed myself when Keith tried to defend the books, it looked like Hedi and Tim were going to jump out of their seats and smack him.

and Miles you humor is enjoyed by this republican

sarita Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 07:36 PM EST

what kind of pop culture people are you? anyone who watches t.v. should know that oscar mayer has a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a, not baloney. heh heh. all in good fun though. love this show!

billarious Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 02:24 PM EST

I came here to read about the show and some take over the forum as a hostile outlet for pent up political frustrations! You all know who you are, so please STFU!!!

Spoilers Sat, Oct 7, 2006 at 02:55 PM EST

Here are their finished collections :-P
http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/designers/bios/projectrunwaydesigners/

jomby Sat, Oct 7, 2006 at 09:32 AM EST

stupid show, are you saying heidi and seal told you personally that they aren't really married and that henry really isn't their son?! you should alert the media, the enquirer would love that one.

i think all of keith's actions - from the dubious portfolio at the very beginning to the pattern books to leaving the show to haggling over prices - are just part of his "i'm better than anyone else" attitude he had from day one. didn't he say at one point "i still have some tricks up my sleeve"? sure, that might mean "i still haven't busted out my empire waistline yet" but whatever. he's sneaky with an over-inflated head.

Bill Sat, Oct 7, 2006 at 03:24 AM EST

Keith should have gotten the boot, it was entirely fair. His later justifications are pathetic and Vincent is a loon, all of the designs he did for Runway were god awful and butt ugly. ALL of them. His subsquent bad mouthing is just sour grapes. Vincent, I would say all your taste is in your mouth, but I'm not convinced you have any there either, you are a disgrace. And Jeffrey is just another mid lever designer they kept around to make "good TV"- his last dress looked like a used Q tip, I can understand why someone would accuse him of cheating if the clothes in his actual show looked tasteful or were well made- based on the ones we saw him make- that couture dress was a nightmare and it won! At least Santino (who was talentless as well) was funny- but the only things that came out of Jeffrey's mouth were bitterness and bile- what a waste of rehab

Rain Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 03:05 PM EST

For a moment, it looked like there might be some "serious ugly" between Keith and Heidi and Tim during that reunion show. I love how Keith claimed the producers returned the books to him. If this were the case, why didn't he mention it while he was getting booted off the show, mmmkay...
I loved Vincent's laundry tirade!!!!!!! He reminded me of mommie dearest upon finding a wire hanger...

stupid show Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 12:43 PM EST

Oh. I get my information from the horse him/herself. So since their lies don't matter why does Keith's or the production teams? It's all staged anyway, just pay attention to the designs and shut up.

Kuya Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 11:12 AM EST

Before the episode was shown, wasn't there speculation that the reason for Keith's expulsion was that designs he showed in his audition portfolio were directly reproduced from other runway shows? So obviously, his take on appropriateness is very flexible.

bittybis Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 02:36 AM EST

I don't think this is the relevant document. In the show they were referring to text in a contract they all signed, not a letter.

AnthroTwins Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:28 PM EST

It looks like Keith is backpedeling and trying to make himself look blameless after the fact. The fact is he left immeiately upon being expelled and he didn't even argue about it. To now claim that the books were planted, and also to assert that he didn't know he couldn't have them, is contradictory and makes him look like a face-saving-fibber. I don't buy his story.

john doe Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:41 PM EST

I think Keith Michael is a filthy liar. What would everyone have thought if Keith was brought back after breaking the rules. Plus, he would get a free shot to win after the other contestants had actually survived and worked hard to stay on the show.

Rusty Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 09:32 PM EST

The thing is, I could see the producers doing this as a publicity stunt. C'mon they are supposed to be so "professional," yet they give "input" to the judges on their elimations (i.e. the more tv worthy people stay ala Vincent and Angela.) So I can see them doing this to make tv better. And besides they should have brought back Keith in the cocktail dress challenge if it truly was for past winners, then we could have seen what he really could do.

cranky Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 09:21 PM EST

All I can say to Keith is--Boo to tha Hoo. Get over it.

newbie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 06:12 PM EST

PRlvr...I agree about Vincent's most used phrase, though I think that being "turned on" was more acceptable for the producers to focus upon. Frankly, both were frightening when said by Vincent. And,I too think that Keith is majorly handsome! Sadly, those looks and the incorrect presumption by others that his slick charm is genuine kindness are probably what have allowed him to develop into the manipulatively arrogant jerk we have before us on the screen.

Kim Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 05:49 PM EST

Keith lied plain and simple. He changed his story. First he said it wasn't his and he doesn't know where they came from. Then in the reunion show, he said it was his, and they were taken from him, but given back. So which is it? Was it his or not?

DUFF Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 05:08 PM EST

Stupid Show -- Where do you get your information? Seal and Heidi Klum ARE married and he is the father of ONE of her children and soon to be TWO. If you look at a pic of her second child, yep, that's his. And he's been around since her first child was an infant, so in reality, he's that child's FATHER too, for all intents and purposes. I realize this is just a message board and we are all entitled to our opinions, but that's just plain weird that you would say that. What the heck does Seal and Heidi's kids have to do with PR? NOTHING. Get a grip.

V.M.L. Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 04:39 PM EST

I thought it was fair for him to get disqualified. Patterns can be published in books, booklets, whatever is paper.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:59 PM EST

No apologies needed, I realized what I sound like. A democrat idiot! it's all good. I am all those things and more! I do have a tendency to put my foot in my mouth (amongsts other things.)

Anna Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:48 PM EST

No Keith doesn't have a case! The producers went back to the contestants twice after production had begun and asked them to surrender any books or other materials. Even if Keith hadn't understood the rules as written in the contract, he had to understand that.

What I do believe is that the producers place the books under the bed after the fact in order to get that shot. So I suppose in a warped sort of way, Keith is right that they went back and put the books there but it was after he was gone.

PRlvr Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:40 PM EST

Did anyone else notice that VIncent's favorte thing to say was NOT "It turns me on" like they showed? It was actually "It get's me off".

apologies to Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:06 PM EST

Miles, I apologize if I misunderstood you earlier. I hope you can see how your comment "all come from the same tree... liars... three of them are republican, two of them are gay" sounds very negative towards gays, as if them being gay had something to do with them being liars (I won't get into the political, for which I might agree ;) ). I had no idea you were gay yourself, as am I -- one who feels there is already way too much negative connotation associated with being gays so a little sensitive I guess. I'm sorry. -- "um, wtf"

Rishi Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:51 PM EST

Laura is the WINNER
Michael collection was the WORST
Keith was unfairly booted.
Vincent is a sore loser
Angela was a good designer was never given the credit she deserved.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:38 PM EST

oh, lisa, I love Lisa now!!! she kicks bootay.... if your boyfriend suspects just say that whacky gay Miles made me say it!

Lisa Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:32 PM EST

Miles - I wouldn't either! Thank God my boyfriend doesn't watch the show or read these. And, in case he does, you can call me, uh... Susan.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:28 PM EST

Lisa, friend, buddy... I agree with you one hundred percent, even though he was horrible liar, and his narcissistic anger toward Heidi ridiculous, I still wouldn't kick him out of bed.

Lisa Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:10 PM EST

Miles - it's nice to see that people can have different views politically and move on. What politicians wear? Shudder...

What really makes me ashamed of myself is that I still think Keith is cute. *sigh* But that evil eye stare down on a pregnant Heidi was just plain frightening and creepy.

kittycat Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:08 PM EST

Key-rist. This is a letter, not a contract, don't you people know the difference. While this might be the cover letter that came with the contract, it has been stated several times in all three seasons that each PR contestant has to sign a contract agreeing to abide by the rules/regulations of PR. You don't sign a letter, you sign a contract. So, before we start wondering whether Mr. Cheating Cheater has "point" about the Contract not stating anything about "books" why don't we look at the Contract he signed, and not some letter? Really. Furthermore, the man did lie, because he did roll over like a puppy when Tim Gunn first confronted him about the books and it is only now, several months after the fact, that he has this story about "magically re-appearing books" and mystery PA who show him the door. Barnum was right -- there's a sucker born every minute.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:04 PM EST

My original comment, that Keith sounded "republican" in his defense of himself, was meant to be a JOKE. and as upset as many of you are about the fact that we're talking politics in the Runway board. Let's applaud the fact that everyone seems as informed about the rules of runway as they are about what's going on in the country. It gives me great hope, that we're still kick bootay fashionistas with IQs.

But to even it all out. Let's talk about Fashion in Politics. Where do those senators get those fugly suits? exactly what are the pages wearing that make them so appealing? and Hastert, is he in or is he out?

Lisa Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:55 PM EST

My bad. The comment about Republicans was meant to be lighthearted - I don't think there's really a comparison between harrassing (or worse) minors and an idiot lying on a reality show. Didn't meant to get anyone riled up.

Mario Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:50 PM EST

ah.. yes, blame everything on Clinton... Clinton lied about not having sex with Monica and republicans are still skewering him over it. Chimpy McDonothing lies to get us into an unjust and illegal war and nothing, no impeachment or questioning or anything.

Sounds to me like miles was right on the money, republicans are nothing but lying, whinny, wimpy little b!tches who can't do anything right except lie, steal, abuse power .. oh, and I almost forgot.. have sex scandals with minors. So much for having such a moral superiority. At least Bill Clinton lied about having sex with a GROWN UP and not about abusing his power to lure and have sex with minors a la Foley.

Heckuva Job, GOPers... Heckuva job!

PRlvr Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:44 PM EST

Not trying to be rude but we get off the Politics. That is for another website. Please????????

Mario Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:43 PM EST

Sorry Lisa,

The liars in Congress and in our White House make it possible for us to lump losers in with the rest of the republicans. I know, it's not fair but hey, republicans have done this for decades when it comes to democrats so I guess it's fair game.

If you want to change the way republicans are viewed then I suggest you start by addressing the corruption and abuse of power republicans have shown each and every time they've managed to sit in power be it in the White House, House of Representatives or Congress.

Judy D Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:36 PM EST

OMG!!! I had to stop reading! When did this degenerate into a snap-fest over who lies worse, Republicans, Democrats or Fashion Designers!?!?!? Thought this was supposed to be a discussion about a reality based television show, my bad!

PRlvr Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:35 PM EST

Did anyone else notice that VIncent's favorte thing to say was NOT "It turns me on" like they showed? It was actually "It get's me off". I wonder why they changed it. He is a weird bird!

Mel Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:24 PM EST

Yes, Keith asked for a discount at MOD in the same episode where he was asked to leave. He was close to going over budget and so he haggled with MOD for a deal. When I was watching the episode initially, I thought THAT would be what would get him kicked off.

MarinaZ Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:22 PM EST

Lisa, if you watch the re-runs (of which there are many)Keith got the woman at Mood to lower the price of the items he bought for the INC challenge because he had overspent. Jeffrey and Allison were part of his team. Keith was just plain smarmy.

dma69 Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:22 PM EST

I never thought I'd say this, but Keith makes Jeffrey (tattoo neck) look like a saint. Not only did he break the rules, he's a bad liar. He needs to take his lumps like a man. He got what he deserved, plain and simple. Sad because he did show promise as a designer.

If Vincent was a nutjob before, he really needed a straightjacket last night. Who goes ballistic over laundry?

Angela, a.k.a. Rosette Queen, is still annoying (like mother, like daughter).

Malan wasn't as creepy as I previously thought, but he still looks and sounds like the spawn of Greta Garbo and Crispin Glover. I did see some pics of his clothes from Fashion Week and they were really nice. I still say that he was auf'd too soon.

Bradley is still a nutjob. Not as bad as Vincent, but what's with the alien noises he kept making?

I still hope that Michael wins. He definitely deserves it.

P.S. Republicans AND Democrats are just plain screwed up. End of story.

Lisa Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 01:09 PM EST

Keith got Mood to change the price? How did I miss that?!?!?

He's a little insane. He should catch up with Monique from Top Model...

newbie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:32 PM EST

Maybe Keith will become Project Runway's version of Puck and he'll be invited back to a best of the also-rans season to cause further agony with his rule-bending ego.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:28 PM EST

Hey MarinaZ, I was just making fun because of the weeks event. I warrant, ALL POLITICIANS LIE, but the republicans are doing a exemplary job of it this week.

PS: Democrat at least hit on adults.

MarinaZ Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:26 PM EST

I was hoping that Tim and Heidi had security handy because Keith's head looked like it was going to explode he was so angry. The guy was such a con artist, from his refusal to follow the rules on the dog challenge to having the people at Mood change the price on his goods, it wasn't hard to believe he had the forbidden books in his possession.

Hey Miles: Republicans aren't the only ones who lie. Just ask chief Democrat Bill "I didn't have sex with that woman" Clinton.

P.R. Addict Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:13 PM EST

I personally found it interesting that Kieth first said that there was nothing in the contract about not being able to have such items and when he was called on it, it was "Oh, well Production took them from me and then brought them back." Bull****. And furthermore, if any of that was true, why wait until the reunion show to say that your dismissal was unjustified? Why not present your case when it actually mattered, during the show!

latoia Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:07 PM EST

Not that I would change my opinion of the man. I don’t like him and didn’t from the start. But had he taken any responsibility I think he wouldn’t have received all the ill feelings from fans of he show. I mean he was arrogant from day one. But when he was talking to all the boys before he left he said something to the effect of “I understand that you are upset”. Not yeah I’m sorry about this. Even if he thought that the books where ok (which I doubt) simply acknowledging that it was a mistake would have helped. He’s not even taking responsibility for having the books. Most people would acknowledge after the fact that maybe having the books in the first place was wrong. But to bring up months later that you feel there was a conspiracy to kick you off is just insane. Why not defend your self in the moment?? But whatever. And is it just me or did he look like a man come undone?

Betsy Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:03 PM EST

the producers on PR have the most wonderful talent of creating drama even if it doesn't exist. The above letter does not mention books he was right about that.
Did they remove the books and them plant them we'll probably never know, but fairness has never been this shows virtue, Michael Kors said last night I don't judge a body of work I just on the current challenge. WRONG he stated over and over when they booted Robert that he had been bored over and over and he voted on
score alone and said so. Jeez guys watch the shows.
Was Keith cheated probably, we'll never know. But this season proved drama is the name of this show.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 12:00 PM EST

um, wtf! Nobody in the world is gayer than I am. I said, that keith was sounding "republican" when he spinned his lies last night. that was the comment I was standing by.

um, wtf? Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:54 AM EST

Miles, so now all gays are liars? Your comment is insulting, confusing, and untrue. Feel what you want about politicians, but don't be a prejudiced bigot.

Karla Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:52 AM EST

I was surprised but glad that they brought him back - you're only as sick as your secrets, and it was important to let him have his say.

But he sat through the rest of the special sort of glowering and being scary. Talk about the elephant in the room!

Wasn't Malan delightful - and have you seen pics of his show at fashion week? He is an amazing designer - just head and shoulders above the others.

Rucy Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:47 AM EST

As much as Keith enjoyed rewriting history on the Reunion episode, he signed the same documents every other contestant did, so he was made aware of the rules even if he chose not to read (or comprehend) them fully. His dog design lie, coupled with his violating the rules and his pointing fingers behavior now, show clearly that he wasn't willing to play on an ethical and level field with the other contestants. Now I just wish he'd been the FIRST eliminated contestant. How I wish Heidi would have cussed him out in German, German is a terrific language for cussing. And Vincent's verbal abuse of a production team member, since it was caught on tape, should have gotten you removed from the show *immediately* (shame on Bravo for not holding these folks to the highest ethical standard). Love Michael, his designs and spirit will (I hope) prevail in the end.

sandy Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:25 AM EST

Mabey they did find the books and take them and then put them back so they could have controversy on the show. I did not like him and i did not think his dress was all that (the one that won)but,
I would like to find out if he is telling the truth.

stupid show Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:23 AM EST

Um...the letter also states that it will be "confiscated" by the production team...Keith mentioned that they took it at the beginning of the competition and then brought them back. If they did not confiscate them in the beginning they slacked on their job. Either way Keith is right the production team are the f* ups...after all they did show him the door and didn't stop him from leaving. Hell the show seems more stupid to me now anyway.
Heidi is a liar because Seal isn't her husband or the father of any of her 3 children. How she was so offended that he implied the production team lied. What about you skank???
I only wrote that cause I know she reads this message board...although it's the truth about her phony belony marriage.

MindyM Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:07 AM EST

I think Keith is a cheater and a liar and he got caught and he didn't like it. That's all there is to it. The fact that he didn't put up a fight when he spoke to Tim is a perfect example of that. The game was up. I thought he sounded kind of whiny like a little kid. He was hostile and defensive and really rude to Heidi. Fortunately, Tim stepped in to cut off the discussion. Kieth's not worth it. There are more deserving people who got booted off. No, I don't mean Vincent, that segment they showed for the first time with him using every curse word in the English language at the production assistant who put his precious shirts in the laundry for goodness sakes, well it was worth it to tune in just to see that. Poor Vincent, it's so hard when people can't see that you are a legend in your own mind.

k Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:04 AM EST

Keith is a jerk and a liar. I am so glad he was kicked off. I wish Heidi had cussed him out. He never took responsibility for his actions. Never did he apologize for leaving. He just made excuses. I can't stand him.

Dana Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 11:00 AM EST

Speaking of Republican Liars:

Why doesn't Mark Foley use bookmarks?

Because he likes to BEND over the PAGES!!!!!

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:57 AM EST

Hey Lisa, Hastert, foley, bush, keith... all come from the same tree... liars... three of them are republican, two of them are gay. As Vincent would say, I stand by my comment.

Mario Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:56 AM EST

he deserved the boot.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:55 AM EST

Hey Josh, if you noticed, those phonecalls arrived to the same phone, and took place in the same production room (right outside of the parsons design room). Many reality TV shows make phone calls available, through a phone that is in control of the production. and it recorded. All of them get phone calls, but only the most dramatic or justifiable make it to the final edit.

Josh Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:44 AM EST

I saw contestants using cell phones -- were those then provided by the show? It makes it sound like family can only reach them for emergencies, and yet Michael called his mother early on and later Laura received a video message from her kids. What's the scoop with that?

GeeMoney Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:31 AM EST

He's just mad because he got caught. Plain and simple. If anyone ruined or put a damper on his career, it was himself. Sorry Keith - I think that you are talented and all, but come on!

I also think that he was 2 seconds away from Heidi Klum cussing him out in German. She had the most evil look on her face when he was talking!

Lisa Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:19 AM EST

Miles - don't lump that loser in with us Republicans... It's a shame because I liked his work. He was just a tool.

Miles Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:12 AM EST

For most of the season, I felt sorry for Keith and I thought, maybe he should have been reprimanded, but his ego got the better of him last night and he sounded completely "republican" in his need to make a point through lying and deception.

He broke the rules, he sneaked out. Even if a PA had shown him the door; He had to know better. I'm glad he was kicked out now. what a loser.

Lee Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:12 AM EST

If I hadn't seen how he behaved during the dog challenge--claiming that the bracelet he secured around the dog's neck was something he "made"--then I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. Even if he never used the books, he seems like someone who doesn't take responsibility for his actions and tries to lie or BS his way out of situations.

Jennifer Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:11 AM EST

He's a jerk!!! He makes Jeffrey look like Mr. Rogers!!!!

roel Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 10:10 AM EST

he's a phony and a liar.
if he were 'set up', why did he not make a big deal about it when confronted and dismissed by tim, which tim then suggested in the reunion special?
good ridance.

Connie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 09:45 AM EST

Does a pattern book give you patterns or ideas for how to form them? The first girl to leave the show pointed out the concern that seeing a pattern in a book could give you ideas you might not have thought of otherwise

PR is a "closed book" exam so to speak. No notes, no text books, no outside contact. This seems the only way to level the playing field between contestants.

newbie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 09:44 AM EST

To think that I actually had a pang of sadness when Keith left! I had thought that he handled the dismissal with a degree of grace that would enable him to actually come out of this successfully. Now he has just reconfirmed the initial impression of him being an arrogant whiner.