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Liveblogging Oprah's interview with Madonna

Oct 25, 2006, 04:13 PM | by Whitney Pastorek

Categories: Madonna, Oprah Winfrey, Television

14587__madonna_l OMG so excited: Someone is finally going to explain to me how it is that Madonna can adopt an "orphan" that still has a dad!  And the person who is going to explain that?  Oprah!  Also helping her explain?  Madonna!  This deserves a liveblog, so strap in, kiddies. It's time for another episode of "When Celebrity Philanthropy Attacks!"

4:00 Thanks for the time and temperature, Commerce Bank!

4:00:16 Okay literally my first impression of this episode is, Is Oprah wearing pants? It's kinda fuzzy on the screen and she's got this bright red top and then... well, it looks like Oprah's not wearing pants, ok?

4:00:27 "The Adoption Controversy. Madonna's side of the story." Well, thank god someone is giving this poor woman a chance to finally, finally open up and speak her mind.

4:00:40 Wait. We're getting Madonna and the Dixie Chicks today? Dear me! That is quite a lot of Women Conservatives Love To Hate for one tiny little hour of television!

4:01:19 Madonna is calling in via satellite??  Oh, now I see: The Dixie Chicks were supposed to have the whole hour, weren't they?

4:01:23 Madonna's answer to Oprah's "how are you?" is, "Well, uh, um, Thank you for asking me to do the show."

4:01:31 Ooh, and it's not getting any less awkward: "I wanted to be clear up front that -- I'm very grateful for you -- give me this chance to -- uh -- not defend..." etc. Oh, this is already the most fun I've had in days.

4:01:42 FYI: Today's British Accent Alert level is orange.

4:01:59 What's really surprised Madonna is how great her children are with young, possibly-illegally-adopted David. Because lemme tell ya, they treat the help like ass.

4:02:14 Picture of David being manhandled by Rocco gets obligatory "aw" from audience, who are still trying to assess if/when they're getting free stuff today.

4:02:20 Picture of David being manhandled by Guy Richie, however, gets a laugh. Curious.

4:02: 34 "That's the amazing thing about children," says Madonna. "They don't ask questions." Unlike all those horrible people who are trying to figure out what, exactly, I told the illiterate African man before I took his baby away.

4:02:47 I'm bored, Madonna. Please yell or something.

4:03:09 Oprah wonders whether this baby thing merits being headline news with all the "atrocities" going on in the world. Well, you tell me, Ops: You're the one who bumped the politically-active country music singers to make room for it.

4:03:32 Ways Madonna Is Like President Bush, Pt. 1: She doesn't read newspapers or watch television.

4:03:58 Ways Madonna Is Like President Bush, Pt. 2: She understands that telling negative stories sells newspapers.

4:04:07 More than anything, though, Madge is just disappointed because this incident is going to discourage other people from doing the same thing (going to Africa and buying babies).

4:04:27 Yeah, she's getting indignant now, which is good. For a second I thought she was gonna cry. Which would be a real waste of eyeliner, trust me.

4:04:34 Madonna actually thinks the media is doing a great disservice to ALL the African orphans, not just the Malawi orphans. Which is crazy, because I could have sworn they've had more TV time this week than they've seen since that "Do They Know It's Christmas" song hit big.

4:04:38 And that gets applause. Still no free stuff for you, audience!

4:05:06 It is NOT TRUE that Brad and Angelina told Madonna to go to Africa, and in fact, Madonna's never actually met Angelina Jolie. Dang. I liked that rumor.

4:05:49 Oh my God. This whole thing is Bob Geldof's fault. I KNEW IT.

4:06:27 I'll be honest: Oprah looks pained.

4:07 So, what we're learning now is that Madonna just wanted to go to ANY ol' third world country and snag herself a kid. Or, as she puts it, "give a life to a child that might not otherwise have one."

4:07:07 Audience applauds again, starts thinking about what's for lunch.

4:08:28 Okay, the orphanage where she got David is run by a man named Geppetto? Is there a magical talking cricket there, too?

4:08:50 The best is when Madonna drops the indignant British thing and Detroit slips out: "So, David was at this orphanage. He was wonna the, um, younger babies there."

4:09:49 THE BABY HAS NO AIDS. DO NOT BE ALARMED.

4:10:49 Now I'm starting to feel bad for being mean about this. I mean, Madonna clearly knows what she's talking about, she clearly likes kids, she's clearly jumped on the celebrity Africa bandwagon, and she's doing what she can to help. Fine.

4:11:08 I still think she stole that baby, though.

4:14:09 Here's the big question: Did you get this baby because you're famous, Madonna?

4:14:24 "Yes," says Madonna. "That's exactly true." Just kidding. Actually, she sort of tut-tuts and then makes a joke about no matter who you are, "nothing goes fast in Africa."

4:14:25 Except the tigers. They go fast.

4:14:42 "There are no laws in Malawi," and so Madonna got to make some up? Are we SURE this is a real country?

4:15:29 I would just like to point out, completely straightforwardly, that from what I can tell, Madonna started her "Raising Malawi" foundation... without ever having been to Malawi.

4:15:49 She met David's father in court. Court, in the possibly-imaginary country with no laws. I'm so confused.

4:17:07 There ya go: Madonna says David was dumped in the orphanage when he was 2 weeks old, and his extended family did not visit at any point. That seems pretty orphany, I gotta admit.

4:17:44 "Obviously, I don't speak Chichewa," Madonna snips, when talking about needing an interpreter in court. Seems like a good time for that Berlitz course now, though, don't it?

4:17:55 Can we stop calling adoption "giving a child a life"? Please?

4:18 So basically, Madonna's saying that David's dad looked into her eyes and said it was ok to take his kid, and that the media is terrorizing him now and putting words into his mouth. And now she's going to make an analogy...

4:19:26 Longest analogy of all time, Madonna.

4:19:54 Okay, that's not technically an analogy. That's just recasting David's dad as a woman who gives her baby up for adoption.

4:20:28 What's really amazing to me is the way Madonna seems genuinely stunned that the media has any interest in this situation at all. (Insert rant on celebrities who want it both ways here.)

4:23:51 Heads up: Madonna plans to go to Malawi every year. Can't wait.

4:24:35 Ah! I get it: She's gonna give David an education and "a life" so he can go back and help the Malawians someday. That reminds me: Has anyone else seen the trailer for Pathfinder?

4:26:01 Madonna's not sure she has anything to say to the people who accused her of doing this as a publicity stunt. For the record, I just kinda thought it was weird. I mean: Madonna's a walking publicity stunt, right? Basically always has been?

4:26:33 You know, Madge, at least when Bono tells me depressing things about life in Africa, I usually get a song out of it.

4:27:04 Only truly awesome way for this episode to end? "YOU get an orphan! YOU get an orphan! YOU get an orphan! EV-ry BO-dy GETS an OR-phan!"

4:30 Okay, that's it. Oprah's on to the Dixie Chicks. Who, it should be said, have not yet taken the time to adopt any orphans. Because they hate America.


Ronald Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 04:04 AM EST

I'm glad that Madonna had finally spoken up about the issue. Why is she not on the list of top newsmakers this year? She's more entertaining than the rest of pop tarts and mediocre actors and singers out there! Her concert was also a blast.

Indianafan Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 04:49 PM EST

Dear Whitney,
Thanks for this blog. Not only did this blog proove that Madonna is irrestible to both of those who like her or hate her, but to the fans of hers also. I guess that is why she is the most successful worldwide female artist of all time. If people don't believe me, they should look it up in billboard.

Nancy Walker Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 09:21 AM EST

Please put a better picture of Oprah, and make Madoodoo's be gone!!

Juju Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 09:16 AM EST

Indiana Fan, you must mean she drips on the world.

Indianafan Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 10:35 AM EST

"Madonna must be our lucky star, cause she shines on us all over the world" lol

Llora Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 07:50 PM EST

Looks like I missed most of the excitement, but I am most definitely the persuasion of Chris and Oprah!! What is so fascinating about hating a celeb for wanting to do something humanitarian with the time they have left here?? Any parent knows what it's going to require, and if I was in Madge's, place I'd do the exact same thing!! I have six kids and have struggled to parent alone, but if I had the means, I'd share the same experience with them!! Let's admit it, Madonna had the streetsmarts and wisdom to get where she is and to get there first, and we're all a bit envious!! :o) XO Llora

Heather Bartlett Mon, Nov 6, 2006 at 05:28 PM EST

Heh. Funny post - I like your little editorials inbetween the informational bits.

I came across your site because I now cannot stand Oprah and somehow that brought me here.

My less eloquent blog about being fed up with Oprah is here:
http://goddesschronicles.allzah.com/goddesschronicles/index.cfm/2006/11/6/Funny-how-you-can-look-up-to-somebody-then-learn-to-DESPISE-them

VERY funny blog - I've added you to my favorites.

Shannon Sat, Nov 4, 2006 at 12:39 PM EST

Whitney your live blogging of this interview inspired me to write about Live Blogging today in a post. I was sure to note your Live Blogging of this Madonna interview with a link! You had me laughing so hard with your play by play!

http://www.piercemattie.com/blogs/2006/11/live_blogging_all_the_kids_are.html

Nando Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 02:16 AM EST

You have proven my point. Why do you feel so offended over a woman who would not even allow you in her front door? I do have a spine and can think for myself. Unfortunately, you are the one with a lack of understanding. I think of Madonna as refuse, sorry you can't take that. She is a media hog with only one intent in mind:"Look at me. I have done something so magnificent with my millions of dollars. I bought myself an African baby."
If she had really wanted to do something wonderful, why did she not help the family to raise their own child? You are pathetic! You can have an opinion but I can't? Go back to your broom and dust pan. If you get a good recommendation perhaps Madonkey will employ you as her butler.

buddhan8r Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 09:36 PM EST

It is a beautiful thing to adopt any child who needs a home. Adopting a child of another race, especially from Africa has become the new celebrity "bling". There are millions of American children, black, white and every color in between that need homes. Even non-celbrities will spend thousands of dollars to adopt a child from another country, a completely different race but will not adopt a black or mixed American child. People will argue that it is hard to adopt transracially in the US. That's news to me. My 5 year old came to our family at two weeks, his birth parents were mentally handicapped. We are white, the agency we trained with to be foster parents (we went through DYFS, just wanting to help, adoption was the icing) was a predominantly black, church-based org., all the caseworkers we dealt with were black and they all loved our family and supported our adoption. I know many families who adopted black or mixed American children either through DYFs or through an adoption agency with no hitches whatsoever. I've seen articles quoting attitudes from the '70's!! It's 2006!!! We may be adopting our son's 13 yr old biological brother since his foster mother (who is black) is probably not going to adopt him. We love him and hope that we can have him in our family permanently. If we didn't want to adopt him, he would probably time out in foster care. Maybe these celebrities should think about the children in their own backyard that are as starved for a family as any in any other country.

Millie Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:21 AM EST

Eboka:
Thanks for reminding me of Alice Walker's writings. I like her stories. You probably have written some good material afterall. She knows how to capture what some people are really like, but always with a meaning to her story.

Eboka Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 08:37 PM EST

hey look y'all i aint got no beef ok. i just want y'all to understand that no matter madonna's motivations we should look at all the good that comes out of the situation. i hear angelina is adopting one more child. seems shes collecting one from each continent. whys no one knocking her. guys no matter the intentions lets always look at the good that comes from the situation ok.
and hey its a post , not a phd thesis so i dont bother correcting so if you look at you keyboard u'll see that they all typo's ..i mean u really think i cant spell racist?
Ps, millie and Juju: dont knock something thats primarily seen as good by an unbiased observer just because you doubt the persons motivations. lets just be happy with the good aspects cos i know when that boy grows he's gonna be grateful.

so no beef okay, and i really didnt mean to sound full of myself, i'm really a nice guy. just wasnt feeling the knocking. i'm out

Chuks Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 09:57 PM EST

Juju: you must have some reading and understanding impairment. i didn't say i was a writer or a successful author. i meant like whitney i pride myself in being able to parody situations in a humourous manner thats what i meant by creative writer aand though i didnt like agree with her view i appreciated the effort hence i said "nice piece". understand. i finished from business school and my major distraction is web design. i have no intention of going into commercial writing but i'm sure that if we both did , you'd be eating my dust. and officially i never patted myself on the back . i made a factual statement. "i am also a creative writer" arent you reading these same words or is your browser tuned to your brains frequency?
and you say you know whats going? you could have fooled me.
you ever been raised in a poor african country before? didnt think so.
and i never denied or acknowledged that she is or isnt a media hog. but if several good situations can come out of an individuals selfishness and pride and

Jessica Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 09:23 PM EST

Eboka, I hope that is not your real name.

Eboka Chukky Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 10:42 PM EST

and so what Madonna bought a baby? who cares ? you people have your priorities ina twist if you angry that she used her money to get a baby. WELCOME TO PLANET EARTH. What she has done is a noble thing. not only did she buy a baby who has been saved from the harsh life he was bound to live in malawi, but the money she"paid" for him is going to make life happier for hundreds of others. so everyones happy. and who cares if hes going to be raised by maids and nannies? his mother is dead for crying out loud. he was still going to be raised by marons and such in malawi..but without millions of dollars worth of healthcare products. Kappish???
y'all sitting behind your pc's commenting on stuff and situations you have no inkling about. SHAME ON YOU MADONNA BASHERS. how many children u adopt lately?

Eboka Chukky Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 10:32 PM EST

okay nice piece whitney, really. but we are tired of the cliched african stereotypes. i am a nigerian born and living in lagos nigeria and NO. we dont have tigers in africa. My parents are not wealthy or upper class but stll i am able to afford decent internet connectivity at home. i use a nokia 6260, just graduated from college, own 2 pc's a desktop and a laptop , i hang out at bars and nightclubs with my friends, drink smirnoff ice and go to the cinemas and yes watch Oprah on satellite Tv.i'm a web developer and a creative writer and actually do possess a blog of my own(http://www.naijamale.blogspot.com). so please africa does not equal forests, lions , tigers and cheetahs of which i have seen none.

Chris Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 09:07 PM EST

My hat's off to you, Michael. I'm glad that there are people out there like you, because the world needs you, we need you.

I work in HIV prevention & community outreach and education also. It's very hard and frustrating at times because it's almost like people don't want to know, they don't want to find out, much less talk about HIV prevention and AIDS education but when you think the change you're making in people's lives even if they don't understand it or even know their lives are being changed is rewarding enough to keep me coming back. :)

I agree, Madonna loves attention, she loves to be the center of it but I simply find it hard to believe that she'd go as far as to adopt a baby for the sake of publicity. How much more attention could she possibly crave when we've been bombarded with her image in major cities through her partnership with H&M (my friend scored an ad poster and now I have to stare at it every time I visit him..ugh!) and her tour. Personally, I would love for her to go away for a bit, I just don't believe that she'd adopt a child to get attention.

Anyhow, that's all I'm saying.. in oh, so many words.. lol!

aron Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 06:53 PM EST

For the billionth time, why would Madonna do this for attention and publicity?? I really don't get it or comprehend how seemingly intelligent people can even think this, let alone say it. Yes people, Madonna does have a good heart and she's using it to help others, why is that so hard to believe? I don't see that many celebrities doing the same, other than pose fake smiles for cameras and cash cheques.

michael Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 04:15 PM EST

I work in HIV prevention Chris, so yes I am involved in some form of social responsibilty...basically doing what i can with the job I have been given....working for a non-profit, I understand how important these issues are...especially when it comes to AIDS and in some aspects, Africa.
I am just saying, the blog was funny...without humor in life, what are we? and who better to have fun with and gossip about than a woman who craves attention...I am observing how absurd this whole thing is...how absurd madonna is...not putting down any form of help society receives...
This is all in good fun...

Juju Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 03:49 PM EST

Chris you certainly make some good points. It sounds like you prepared your sermon for Sunday and are trying it out on us.
I am well aware of what has been happening and what has happened in the past. It is hard to ignore something like that when you read about it in magazines, newspapers, and meet someone who actually lost their parents in Rawanda during the genocide. Of course it is not a laughing matter. In fact, the problems they face are horrendous!
But, people are bashing Madonna for the simple fact that she does this for attention and publicity. Everything about her is a controversy. Again, you made excellent points.

alex Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:19 PM EST

Whitney and Michael you need to get over your obsession with Madonna!

Chris: you are a cool dude brother.

Chris Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:05 PM EST

Michael,

that particular statement that "this is an entertainment website/magazine, not Time Magazine" is right up there with.. "The Dixie Chicks should just sing and stop talking about politics". I think the state of our nation, the fact that there's so much abuse of power, so much corruption of our administration at ALL LEVELS is alarming and should definitely be discussed at every possible venue.

Here's something that perhaps those reading EW won't know about: Marilyn Musgrave, a sitting member of Congress, when getting ready to discuss stem cell research and speak about the Terry Schiavo case/fiasco demanded that Terry's husband, Mr. Schiavo be removed from a public forum.. when her wishes were not met, she demanded that the timekeeper for the forum be moved somewhere else because if the timekeeper stayed where he/she was then Mrs. Musgrave would have to look at Mr. Schiavo.

What kind of pathetic crap is that? You can talk about a family and discuss a much publicized issue that really didn't concern congress or anyone of us but you can't stand to look at the man whose very family you're going to talk about?

Why shouldn't moral or world issues be discussed at every possible medium, be it an entertainment magazine, fishing magazine, whatever? Besides, I am staying on topic regarding Madonna and her adoption and not particularly upset at what people are saying about her but more alarmed at peoples hypocrisy when making blanket statements about something they obviously care or know very little of with the only common denomination being their hatred for Madonna. Like I've said before, I don't care for her too much either but it just bugs me that people would be so insensitive, immoral and basically two-faced by criticizing a woman's actions and not discussing their government's lack of support for Africa, lack of compassion when it comes to AIDS relief and HIV preventive education (why did all the funding for HIV education and proven methods of prevention, like condom distribution, get cut in half and now are pushing a "Christian" abstinence only policy?)

Lastly, yes.. focusing on Madonna and her adoption is a big waste of time when there are bigger problems in the world we could all tackle and overcome if only we came to an agreement that WE ALL NEED TO GET INVOLVED in order to change things. What do you say? Would you get involved?

michael Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:06 AM EST

My question for Chris is...

If you are so offended by what people say about an entertainer and her "charity"? Then why are you on EW's blogs? This whole magazine is about gossip and stars...u make good points but they sould really be expressed in a forum that would actually change the way someone feels..This is an entertainment magazine...not Time magazine

zenia Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 09:27 AM EST

Whitney: ...... forget it it's not worth it any comments to you. I think the best think thing we can do is toignore your clear frustration as a writer and as a mother(if you are?)

Ronald Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 09:18 AM EST

Guys do not give any credit to this writer "Whitney" We can do so much good out there just like Madonna is doing instead of wasting our time in all this gossip.

Madonna: God bless you for what you're doing.

Just Me Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:46 AM EST

Madonna knows how to stay in the public's eye. All this ranting and raving over a "star." She is all about the publicity. And who is Oprah? Oh yeah! She is a talk show host with a magazine with only her face on the front cover. What an ego! It must be the size of the Himalayas.
Why all the fuss? Do any of you think you would get in the front door of the media hogs?
And for all who keep yelling- shut up, people have a right to their opinions; if you don't want to hear any of it don't read.

Chris Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:13 AM EST

anitanita, I'm with you on the whole issue of voicing one's opinion, however this isn't really what's happening on this thread, is it?

I've been probably the one most vocal about asking others that unless they're doing something altruistic, they should shut up about this and I still stand by it. Seriously, it's not necessarily discussing issues at hand, it's taking cheap shots at Madonna for having adopted a baby, or as Michael would say, "bought" a baby.

If people were discussing this issue then her looks, her money, etc. wouldn't have much relevance in the conversation, now would it?

Hardly anyone is discussing Africa, adoption regs. or anything that goes deeper into the subject, the only thing they're doing is expressing their hatred and contempt for a woman who for better or worse, bought or not a baby, is changing someone's life in a positive way. One has to look at her children to realize that she's actually a great mom.

The entire purpose of asking someone what they're doing is to maybe help them realize that we accomplish more by actually doing something about what we believe in instead of criticizing others for doing something positive they believe in, even if they went about it the wrong way. Madonna at least is trying to bring attention to Malawi, not just by this adoption but from what my friend tells me, has been doing it since earlier this summer.

If we are all Christians in the US, or at least the ruling majority, then shouldn't we be focusing on Christian issues and addressing them from that angle instead of hypocritically criticizing another while doing absolutely nothing yourself?

Mark Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 01:48 AM EST

That recap was duller than the show itself.

Congratulations! You've lowered the bat for other "humorists" onge again.

anitanita Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 01:23 AM EST

Hmm, I don't understand why people who are irritated by this website just don't leave? Then, those of us who find her funny could just stay, and enjoy her commentary.

Overall, I think that people who birth children usually do so for both selfish and altruistic reasons, so I don't see why people who adopt them should be any more humanitarian. They don't want to save a village, they want to raise a child. Fair enough.

That said, I think all the people who birth kids and adopt kids need to look a little deeper into their souls as to why poking fun or tossing questions at this issue of international adoption raises their blood pressure.

Let's face it, it brings up a curious issue of race and class, as well as love, and personal meaning, etc. Why not discuss this? Also, all those accusing people with the 'what have you done lately' comments need to step back as well. Madonna is the one that put it out there who claimed that she wanted to help Africa - I think it's reasonable to review her manner of doing so.

Whether or not the questioner has adopted/donated/ etc., isn't relevant. Because if you follow that argument: that only those who are (donators, adopters, etc.) have the right to comment (about adoption, etc.) then it can lead to an equally silly argument: only those who are (African) should adopt (Africans). Or only people who are black should (teach, raise, marry, etc.) people who are black, and on and on.

And really, we all have the right to voice our opinions: the only "are" that should matter, is that we are human.

So let the uncomfortable but productive conversation continue!


Juju Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:48 PM EST

The picture of Oprah is horrible! Couldn't a better picture be found?

luis Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 04:34 PM EST

Whitney is funny but has a lot of s... on her head. Someone please arrest her!

michael Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:19 PM EST

That's an admirable story....an I applaud your friend's parent for helping him...
but did she offer them $3 million dollars and sponsorship from her religion when she adopted your friend?

Where there is Madonna, there is controversy...She can't help it...it's out of her control now...but she did go about this all wrong...she is not the best at positive PR...
I believe she did buy a baby...read into that what you may...sometimes facts are negative Chris...so, I do own my statements, I just don't think it's as negative as it is factual.

kana Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:07 PM EST

This: HILARIOUS. Taking advantage of alone-time at work to laugh at loud and loving it. "Except the tigers." HAHA! THANK YOU.

Chris Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:02 PM EST

That's where you and I differ, Michael. I don't particularly care for Madonna, her antics and her music but it just baffles me how so many people feel they can take cheap shots at her simply because she's a celebrity.

Seriously, don't you think saying "she bought a baby for 3 million dollars, explain it all you want, she bought a baby" is negative? At least own your statements, don't backtrack.

Listen, one of my friends I met many years ago was adopted from Colombia. His entire life was changed, he was born with a cleft palate and no one wanted him but a woman from the US did and adopted him. Should she have been barred from doing so because there are so many orphans in the US? If she hadn't, he would have grown up in that orphanage without an opportunity at a better life. Because he was adopted, his life was changed and was influenced to go out and do some good in the world. I'm not saying that this is going to be the case with Madonna's adopted baby but he certainly has more opportunities with her than if he had stayed in Malawi. Sometimes people do things that others don't like or approve of but one has to look at the larger picture and remove personal opinions to see the positive aspect of things. No, this friend doesn't like Madonna either but he applauds her for choosing a non-american baby to adopt. Why? Because orphanages in the US have better regulations and easier access to medicine, education and a well rounded up-bringing than orphanages overseas. I know that most think this will become a trend among celebrities, is that a bad thing? Don't you think adopted kids appreciate and even are influenced to do good in the world because they themselves were helped? I know it's a long shot and maybe too optimistic, but it's a hell of a lot better than leaving these kids in a depressing situation they're currently in.

FYI - My friend's biological parents were still alive but rejected him because of his birth defect, I hate people like that but it only proves that not every orphan is going to be parent-less.

Betty Boop Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 02:06 PM EST

Yikes, people are getting SO mean to the Popwatch writers, Whitney, Michael, ect. by directing personal, mean-spirited comments to them.

Don't you people get that Popwatch writers write these to open the discussion, get the chatters chatting among themselves?!! I myself love EW writers and their wit. No need to be so nasty towards them..chill out people!

michael Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:50 PM EST

Chris.....

I am not bashing Madonna...I am actually a huge Madonna fan...go to her shows, buy her cds, etc...she's really fascinating...I think it's a good thing what she's done in Malawi...she has def brought much needed attention to the country...I am not disputing that

That being said....you can not deny that she bought this child...that's all I am saying...I never once said it was a bad thing now did I?

Chris Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:12 PM EST

Michael, let's assume you're right.. let's assume she "bought" a child for 3 million dollars. Those 3 million dollars will help the rest of the children in that orphanage, her helping to build hospitals and schools will benefit more than one child, plus she's changing the life of one individual and maybe he'll do the same when he's old enough.

What are you doing that's morally superior? Are you helping orphans? Are you donating money to help orphans? Since you would never stoop that low to "buy" a child, are you helping them anyway?

Hypocrite

Ruby Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:10 PM EST

I thought this blog was so funny...I had to stifle my laughter because I am at work and laughing out loud at my computer would be a sure sign I'm not working. What really surprised me though how these comments got personal on Whitney...there is no need to be mean and start any personal bashing. She's joking, its humourous, laugh a little. I don't think this blog was written to bash adopting on any level, or any of Madonna's good intentions in doing so (on the one hand I feel if having money speeds up the process, all power to you...on the other hand makes me sad for those who are in the middle who want to adopt)...I think it's just a comment on how obsessed the general media has become with celebrities. And in the last couple of years with celebrities children...when Tom and Nicole adopted children years ago there was nothing compared to the firestorm surrounding this adoption, or Angelina's adoptions, so on and so forth. I couldn't begin to tell you why it has gotten so bad...but it has, and here I am contributing to it with my comment. Oh well...life is an oxymoron...and sometimes, you have to laugh at it.

Chris Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:09 PM EST

Notice how many say: "why didn't she adopt a child from somewhere in the US?" -- If anyone feels they're superior enough to make a statement like that, then step up to the plate and save an orphan child!

Ah.. but that's just it, no one will. They'll take cheap pot shots at Madonna for doing something they've never considered in their whole lives.

Before all of this hoopla, how many of you knew Malawi even existed in Africa? Come on, fess up! How many and for how long did you know about Malawi and its demise?

hypocrites

michael Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:04 PM EST

The woman bought a baby...there's no hiding it...she bought it...explain all you want...she paid $3 mil for an orphan

michael Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:03 PM EST

The woman bought a baby...there's no hiding it...she bought it...explain all you want...she paid $3 mil for an orphan

jake Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:10 PM EST

Enough with the hate. Funny how so many are bashing Madonna for saving this child yet havent lifted a finger in their own selfish lives to help anyone in Africa.

w8n4gdx Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:59 AM EST

Ahem - no tigers in Africa. Lions, yes. Tigers, no.

Still all very funny, and , and... and is it just me or does Mandonna look more and more like Michael Jackson with each public appearance?

Jen Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:35 AM EST

You know, I love Madonna, everything about her and usually don't like reading anything really negative about her, but this was just hilarious - the detroit accent, the audience boredom. Everyone gets an orphan! Brilliant!!!!

Lynny Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:18 AM EST

I am happy to see Madonna taking in a child. It is always a little hard to see people going to other countries to adopt as there are so many children living in serious poverty here in the U.S. Whatever her reasons, at least she is helping someone. Not all of us can say the same.

lola Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:13 AM EST

This lesbian stuff is ridiculous and has *nothing* to do with the blog. Does Slezak hate Rush Limbaugh because Rush rejected his advances? And Scott Brown criticizes Tom Cruise because he's still secretly nursing a grudge from when Tom rejected him? COME ON. You people are really pathetic.

anne Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:06 AM EST

Sara: She did not BUY a baby, unless you can prove otherwise, no? I didn't think you could! LOL.

She adopted a beautiful baby boy the legal way and she now has 3 great children and I for one wish them lots of happiness for the future.

Brian K Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:54 AM EST

An orange "accent alert level"? Brilliant. I hate the faux accent.

Look, Madonna probably did save a life here. I just don't like international adoption as a celebrity trend. She went shopping for a baby in Africa. Would she adopt a baby from the inner city in the U.S.? Of course not, because that's not trendy. It's like Ugg boots from a few years ago, or Kaballah, or whatever the celebrity flavor of the moment is.

I know I risk losing my gay card for not being a Madonna fan, but I just can't stand the woman. And her line about the media attention discouraging other people from adopting African orphans was one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard anyone say. "Gee, I was planning on baby-shopping in Africa this fall, but since Madonna got criticized so much, I think I'll just say home instead. Maybe pick up a new plasma screen or something."

Give me a break.

KTS Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:39 AM EST

Great job Whitney -- too funny.

Dave Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:02 AM EST

Holy crap that live-blog was HI-freakin-larious! I seriously raised the concerns of several co-workers because I couldn't contain my laughter. Whitney, I want your job! Seriously, is EW hiring?

sirchip Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 09:52 AM EST

I'll say this about Madonna...

Either you love her or hate her but no one will stop talking about her.

mike Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 09:40 AM EST

I'm all for adopting, and I do applaud Madonna for her efforts on that level. But what bothers me is that it might become a celebrity "trend" rather than a genuine, socially conscious movement. What will happen to Africa when the next trendy place to adopt becomes India or China? Would Oprah say "You get an orphan!" just before she says "I have one in every color..."

WP - you're hilarious

JCKMOM Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 09:11 AM EST

Whitney,

I love your column. Except for today. As someone who chose International adoption to complete her family, I come from a different place than you do. It also gives me more insight. A few facts 1) You can't just fly in and adopt a baby. You have to do a homestudy -- think about having to provide fingerprints, back ground checks, references and having a stranger in your home 3-5 times to see if you up to being a parent.(and interviewing your children) Now since Madonna is pretty used to having her privacy invaded (and let's face it as Warren Beatty said in "Truth or Dare" she'd live her whole life on camera if she could) it might not be anything to her but as someone who went through it, it's no walk in the park. Additionally the concept of orphans being the only children who should be adopted is ridiculous -- most children given up for adoption have parents -- they are just unable to take care of them. Do you really think all those blond, blue eyed baby boys that Sharon Stone brings home are orphans? The child was in an orphanage. One would assume he was an orphan. Look Madonna could have gotten a child in anyway sweet way she wanted. She chose to raise the visibilty of country in crisis while completing her family. Give it a rest (on this -- dishing on her bad acting, I am totally in)

sara Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:36 AM EST

newsflash Anne: buying a babying is not a "tremendous thing".

thankfully, many of us have the capacity to see through Madonna's massive ego stroke.

Joe C Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:15 AM EST

Good job, Whitney. Neither the Madonna lovers or haters appreicate irony; that's obvious. Very good.

anne Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 07:59 AM EST

sixen: Oprah did not push the issue with Madonna because she is an intelligent worldly woman who knows that what Madonna did is a tremendous thing and applauds it, so she only had to present the facts.

When did you adopt a child fromMalawi to know their laws? Oh, but you are an expert, aren't you? LOL. Have you been rejected for an adoption, cause it sounds like you are mighty bitter.

Madonna became "aware" of the plight in Africa in 1985 NOT 2005, and if you had listened to her interview in full she said that twice! Some people are still not aware of it-so at least she did something about it by adopting a child and funding a 3 million dollar orphanage for Davids village.

Don't sit on your high horse and criticize Madonna, when she's out there being unfairly judged by the world, it's very sad and lacks originality. Plus, as I stated before about this blog-slamming Madonna is very 1990's-sooo boring.

The only good thing is that this blog, as the writers of them here at Popwatch know only too well, that ANYTHING concerning Madonna is a winner because people know she's an icon forever and those who hate criticize and those who love defend the queen. Just what our Maddy wants!

Michael Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 07:41 AM EST

The blog and most everyon's comments are almost not worth commenting on. Almost.

As someone who was adopted, still grew up knowing both of my birth parents, and led a much better life not being raised by them I applaud Madonna and Guy. Really anyone who adopts for that matter, gives a child a better life and hope for a future. I don't think it makes my adoptive parents "blood sucking parasites" as somone puts it because they are quite wealthy and my biological parents aren't. It was a mutual decision amongst all involved and in my best interest. Does it help having more money and a stable environent? Sure it does. However, it is not as though Madonna, Angelina, Mia, Meg, Tom & Nicole, Rosie, etc. went window shopping or had a designer customer make a child.

Let's not do this whought when Angelina played a large role in busting up a marraige. I do applaud her however for her humanitarian efforts.

As usual though, let's focus on every negative aspect because it's Madonna. Once you adopt a child though, are a social worker, or have been adoptied, then we'll talk.

Otis Rail Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:24 AM EST

The bestest line?

4:14:25 Except the tigers. They go fast.

Good stuff. Lot's of good stuff at OilFans.com for NHL/Oilers' hockey.

Otis Rail

Smith Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:21 AM EST

What bothers me about all this is the language that Madonna's using. She's not just saying that everyone would want to 'take one home', as if orphans are cuddly bunnies from the airport gift shop, but that she's 'giving David a life' and that she wants to bring him up big and strong so he can go back to Malawi and help others. Anyone I know who has adopted has said how grateful they are to the child for transforming and enriching their lives; they haven't expected the child to be grateful for being given a better existence. And like any good parents they have nurtured their children and given them the chance to grow up into the people they want to be, rather than insisting that they grow up to be philanthropic social warriors. The more she talks about 'doing good' by adopting David, the less likely she is to allow him to feel loved and wanted, and not just charitable indulgence or a convenient poster child for a cause.

Grace Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:49 AM EST

About the accent....that has always cracked me up! It's so contrived. I have a sister who does the same thing. She hangs around this haughty, liberal crowd and has developed this weirdly slightly British accent that somehow tries to say "I'm so exceedingly smart!" Now, I do love my sister, but its a hoot listening to how fake she sounds sometimes. Every time I hear Madonna speak, I think the same thing!

Just Me Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:48 AM EST

Sorry for the typing mistake. I meant to say that Aron needs to capitalize his name.

Ray Richmond Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:46 AM EST

Whitney, you are Queen of the Blogosphere. One of the funniest things I've read in at least, well, ever. I bow before you. Still trying to stop laughing so I can go to sleep. Damn you.

Just Me Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:43 AM EST

Aron:
Show you have some type of education, captial on a name.

sara Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:41 AM EST

and the real question is... where oh where will Queen Madonna go baby shopping next?? Moms and Dads of the world beware... she has more money than you. She is, thus, more worthy.

and remember, it matters not what you say in defense of your parental status, any statements in opposition to Queen Madonna's superior parental status will all be the fault of the evil media.

seriously, that woman needs some serious therapy.

Juju Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:39 AM EST

Indiana Fan:
Not everyone loves your "Queen." You need to say some prayers for yourself! Indiana Fan/Mario.
She has no talent. Her talent is only to shock and that has become a tired worn out routine.

anniebee Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:36 AM EST

Thanks for the commentary. I saw the show and it sickened me on so many levels. Oprah applauded and cowtowed to Madonna but didn't give the Dixie Chicks her blessing. If Madonna truly wants to help, why not pay for the child to remain with his father and his relatives and his tribe? Heck--Madonna could adopt anyone's child in America and give them a better life (if you think money=better) than they have now--including my own, our mayor's children etc. Why not finance KEEPING a family together? The child will be with nannies, cooks and maids anyway. She said the father hadn't seen him since the baby was 2 weeks old. But in the CNN picture where David's father is holding him, he looks much older and more alert than a two week old baby. She said the father was so "grateful" to her--it smacks of opportunism. If we applaud her adoption it's like saying money is everything and the more money, the better the parent--in which case a rich drug dealer would hypothetically be deemed a better than say, a teacher. She can help without OWNING the child, having the child in her possession and the media. I think she feels messianic about her decision (like Bush), and has no bad intentions--she just assumes she is the center of the universe.

Some Guy Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:32 AM EST

I love how some people in here are stating (as a fact) that ALL AMERICANS are ignorant. Really? All of them? Every single last one of them? Wow, ok. Who is ignorant again? Run it by me one more time. But this time accuse the right individuals and dont assume. Maybe then you wont be talking out of your asses.

Indianafan Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:28 AM EST

Boy Whitney. Must be nice to write trash up like this, and get paid. I couldn't wait to get home from work. I knew that there would be a lousy blog about the interview. I also knew that the ignorance of America would be present on this blog.

Either you are jealous of Madonna, or don't have a lot of talent. Many of these "so-called" haters all repeat the same thing, so I think there is just one person using many alias's. Maybe this blog isn't a success after all.

I hope when you go to bed at night, you pray to the lord up above for forgivness.

Nancy Walker Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:25 AM EST

Oh Goody! one more platform for the fake Brit to show how wonderful and caring she is. Way to go Madonkey. You sure know how to show-up the likes of Angelina Jolie. She helped the unfortunate but did not bring one back to a sprawling mansion. You are the winner.

dan cullinane Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 11:57 PM EST

lola --
you know she will and i bet paris's orphan bites her too...

jaime Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 11:26 PM EST

I'm also pretty sure I didn't mean to use the word "pretty" so many times.

jaime Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 11:25 PM EST

AMEN, Tricia. Slezak's getting pretty humorless on us. Scott Brown's pretty funny, but he blogs about pretty boring stuff.

WHITNEY DON'T GO ANYWHERE, ok?

Tricia Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 11:23 PM EST

Whitney, you rock and have restored my faith in EW for not going all politically correct and having that "I'm so much more enlightened than you" crappy attitude (i.e. Michael Sleazak). This blog was masterfully funny, not only for your take on Madonna, but for the witty perspective on Oprah and all that she implies!

Grace Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 11:20 PM EST

Hey, did you all know that after Madonna picked David out of the orphan line-up she requested, she left the country and had the nanny/publicist/personal assistant bring the kid home? I don't know about every single foreign adoption obviously, but I have quite of few friends/neighbors who have adopted overseas and not one of them left their new kid for someone else to bring to their home. That baby came to their new home in the arms of their new mommy and daddy.

lola Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:27 PM EST

Whitney, that was SO FUNNY!!! And the crazy Madonna fans are just making this that much funnier with their 6-paragraph rants (yes, that's you Chris!). Give me more!!!
(Do you think Paris Hilton will replace her kinkajou with a small African orphan? It's apparently the newest and bestest accessory)

sixen Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:06 PM EST

Chris,

I'm not an American thank God (lol) and I do not reside there. I have noted that there has been a troubling erosion in your country's funding to groups that are the religious right to assist the poor and homeless. (and the lovely shift to abstinence education in Africa ). Hopefully that will be rectified in your upcoming election. Its shocking that

I am well versed in Africa, thank you and I agree with you on many of your points. I am neutral to Madonna's celebrity. I have liked some of her music and dislike some of it. I can't comment on her acting and the quality of her writing. The Live 8 awakening was what Madonna said. Unfortunately, she seems to have forgotten Live Aid or maybe she misread the talking point that her publicist prepared.

sixen Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:41 PM EST

Great to know there is support for forcing Kabbalah down people's throats in order to receive aid. Imagine tying welfare assistance to sitting through religious education classes.

Oh and of course, its the legal system's fault for falling for celebrity rather than following its own laws. Which frankly, do exist and are very rigid.

And Madonna said that she became aware of the issues in Africa because of Bob Geldof and Live 8. Good to know that comments are being made by someone who watched and listened to the show.

Anyway, great job Whitney on the liveblogging. You completely captured it. Funny how Oprah put more heat on James Frey than on Madonna.

dan cullinane Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:34 PM EST

good lord chris, your friend has coughed up over 1,000.00 for concert tickets to see madonna. madonna would be ashamed of him. with that money he could have adopted a baby from somewhere...i mean, not one of the nicer, boutique, african countries, but someplace like, well, DC. anyway, i don't want to keep you because i know you are on your way to volunteer at the homeless shelter but just think about the company you're keeping...

Jasper Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:22 PM EST

So I don't have Tivo and I miss Oprah everyday (although there is YouTube!), Even if I don't see it, this was worth it.

sixen Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:11 PM EST

Great to know there is support for forcing Kabbalah down people's throats in order to receive aid. Imagine tying welfare assistance to sitting through religious education classes.

Oh and of course, its the legal system's fault for falling for celebrity rather than following its own laws. Which frankly, do exist and are very rigid.

And Madonna said that she became aware of the issues in Africa because of Bob Geldof and Live 8. Good to know that comments are being made by someone who watched and listened to the show.

Anyway, great job Whitney on the liveblogging. You completely captured it. Funny how Oprah put more heat on James Frey than on Madonna.

Chris Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:03 PM EST

"Great to know there is support for forcing Kabbalah down people's throats in order to receive aid. Imagine tying welfare assistance to sitting through religious education classes."

Sixen, if you really feel that strongly about it.. you should boycot the US government, they're asking homeless shelters and family shelters to include Bible Study as a stipulation for receiving federal funding (my and your tax dollars).

Really, I mean it.. it sounds like maybe your head's in the right place just not well versed in what goes on around you.

Chris Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:57 PM EST

People like Sixen, Dan, Nick from the other thread and all the other haters on this particular thread, including the thread starter, Whitney whats-her-face cannot seem to really make a solid point that validates their hatred for Madonna, which means that they hate for the sake of hating.

Let's see, the US is a "Christian" nation, by definition this means that these Christians should be doing some charitable work, working towards making the world a better place. Madonna has been actively donating and extending her charity towards people with AIDS, Cancer, and other charities, not just in the US but in Africa ever since 1986 or 1985 if you count her stint on LIVE AID. (yes, kiddies.. there was such a thing called LIVE AID before Live 8 - The fact that you only reference her involvement in Live 8 only shows your own ignorance of the subject at hand and other humanitarian efforts people have participated in)

Second, why is hate necessary? Really, the topic, if any at all, should be WHY IS THE SYSTEM BROKEN THAT WOULD ALLOW A WEALTHY PERSON FAST TRACK THEIR ADOPTION PROCESS, not why is MADONNA using her money as others would, to fast track her adoption process. Where was the scandal with Angelina Jolie? How about Mia Farrow? What about Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise? Both of their kids were adopted but I don't remember there being such a hoopla about it.

Naturally, Madonna does it and all of a sudden, the world's furious about it. Really people, re-direct your hatred a little.. Perhaps at corrupt politicians? There's much wrong there.. war profiteering, lies, deceit, abuse of power, sexual predators, money laundering, prostitution rings in congress, there's much to pick from now since the fruits are really ripe for picking, yet you people decide to focus on a "fading" pop star? where are you priorities?!?!

Dan, if Madonna were "desperate" as you put it, she would have by now gone the R&B route in the US to get airplay, but that's at the core of what upsets people, isn't it? She does things her way, not the way others want her to. Also, this last concert of hers isn't the first time she charged inflated amounts to her concerts, my friends have been attending her concerts since I was a teenager and it's always been the same. In 2001, my best friend complained about having to pay $350. for front row tickets and I bitched at him for doing it, yet he did the same thing again in 2004 and again this past summer. I didn't see the logic behind it but if he's any indication of people still liking her, then I guess her massively successful tour this year only proves that, even if she lacks "air play" on radio (as if that mattered, I know of no one who listens to the radio that much anymore), people are still willing to go to her concerts. But you go ahead and keep believing that she's washed up, meanwhile, people like my friends and millions of others throughout the world will simply move on with the times.

However, I"m not here to defend her...per se, I'm here to ask why is her adopting a child such a bad thing? Are you doing anything better? Are you adopting a child, sponsoring a child or a family perhaps? Are you doing anything to make the world a better place? What exactly are you doing, besides slamming a "fading" pop star, from the comfort of you home/office/dorm?

Like Sixen said, there's much to be done out there... how about all of you give it a shot and get out there, roll up your sleeves and get down and dirty in the trenches and help others in need. Washington DC is shutting down homeless shelters for no good reason other than some people in the neighborhood think these people are dirty and "smell funny" giving their homes a bad feel.. how about standing up for the homeless for once? What about underage prostitution, that's still going on in some third world countries.. that's a worthy cause, no? Maybe helping underage children working for nike, walmart, k-mart, etc in smaller countries... oh wait, can't get involved because you might have to pay a little more for your comfortable living. Unless you're doing anything worthy of mention, please.. just STFU!


sixen Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:44 PM EST

Great to know there is support for forcing Kabbalah down people's throats in order to receive aid. Imagine tying welfare assistance to sitting through religious education classes.

Oh and of course, its the legal system's fault for falling for celebrity rather than following its own laws. Which frankly, do exist and are very rigid.

And Madonna said that she became aware of the issues in Africa because of Bob Geldof and Live 8. Good to know that comments are being made by someone who watched and listened to the show.

Anyway, great job Whitney on the liveblogging. You completely captured it. Funny how Oprah put more heat on James Frey than on Madonna.

dan cullinane Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:26 PM EST

aron, peanut, can't you read?
its like i said below, because she's so insane, and so horrible, and so revolting in such a huge thermonuclear unavoidable way, that its just fun to talk about how disgusting she is...she's too relentlessly ubiquitous to ignore...besides its fun to get the panties of sissy boys like you in a bunch...

aron Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:20 PM EST

Dan: why are you so insistent on writing a comment on every Madonna blog then? You obviuosly really like her, just admit it. Otherwise you are just plain sad.

dan cullinane Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:16 PM EST

can ya'll stop arguing about madonna like she matters and just talk about how insane she is...she's so desperate its funny...she can't get airplay in the us...she had to charge ticket prices as high as malawi's gnp in order to get herself listed as the higheset grossing female tour...she wants to be the lady of the manor and imports pigeons just so she can shoot them...she wants to be a jewish mystic and really hot and a mommie and a trendsetter and veddy proper and she treats people horribly and well, she's just trash, so lets talk about that...its so much more fun

me2 Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:10 PM EST

Wow- I though buying African children went out after the civil war.

Madonna, you hoisted yourself up on that mirrored cross for the chidren, right. You're such a publicity hungry media whore, you'll USE ANYONE you can get your hands on for publicity, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Angelina Jolie, now an innocent semi-orphan-ish African baby. YOU, not the press, should be ashamed!

You are a disgusting person, take your fake british accent and polyester track suits and please go away. Even your horse hates you. P.S. rot in hell you soul sucking parasite. Somebody buy Yohane Banda a copy of "Sex" please.

anne Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:05 PM EST

Sixen: I know Spirituality for Kids is part of Kabbala, it is a programme for kids. I didn't say it wasn't. But so what anyway? What's wrong with that? And no it is not a cult, blah blah blah.

To blame Madonna for human trafficking is plain idiotic, as she is not the first person nor the last who has adopted a child from a country with sub-standard adoption laws (if any). Blame the country not the individual. In that case no one should adopt a child just because of human trafficking! she's been accused of a lot of things, but that is the funniest! Causing human trafficking...lol!

How do you know that she has become aware of issues in Africa since Live8? Do you speak with her often? Even if that is the case, at least she HAS become aware of it. Better sooner rather than later, no? It's more than most celebrities can say, but then again i wouldn't presume to know how much or little a celebrity gives to charity. It's really not my business.

sixen Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 07:48 PM EST

Anne,

Check your facts. Spirituality for Kids is the Kabbalah Centre's program for children.

And well, good for you for supporting legal precedents that open loopholes to human trafficking. Which I'm certain is not Madonna's intent but well, she only became aware of issues in Africa with Live 8.

And if it makes you sick to see anyone criticize a celebrity's supposed act of charity, its ironic that you sarcastically comment on my philosophy on charity. I suppose if I was a celebrity, you would be able to discuss it rationally. lol.

anne Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 07:09 PM EST

Sixen: You are just such a perfect individual aren't you? Lol. Pat yourself on the back. Madonna has done an amazing thing, and people saying that she did it for publicity or ANy other non genuine reason is totally mad. This issue has become a good excuse for people who dislike Madonna to criticize her and spill their venom.

She has done everything legally, as is possible in Malawi, because there are no strict rules or guidelines on adoption there. Raising Malawi is supported by the Spirituality for Kids, that teaches kids about various things necessary for them to learn in life. It is not anything to do with Kabbala, because Kabbala is not a religion in the first place.

I'm sure Madonna knows what she is doing and will have 3 great kids to enjoy forever, so she does not need you or anyone else's input.

sixen Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 07:01 PM EST

Chris,

puhleeze...what is amazing is the ignorance of Americans in believing: 1) Malawi has no laws; 2)informed consent to adoption can be obtained by looking in someone's eyes.

I'm certain Madonna has good intentions but that does not mean that someone should do whatever they like. Madonna does give a lot of money to charity. In fact, a lot of celebrities do and I think that is laudable. However, when give money to charity, I personally feel that it is important to be discerning as to where the money is going. Is it going to overhead? Reputable charities, non-profits and foundations post financial and annual reports on their websites for transparency.

Raising Malawi is relatively new. And it is not founded by Madonna. She is listed as a supporter on their website. And one of the things that is being done with donations is to create curriculum in keeping with Kabbalah tenets. So, its charity with conditions. In America, is assistance tied to taking courses in a specified religion?

The most dangerous thing about Madonna's adoption is the legal precedent it may set that can be exploited in the future by others who may not have good intentions towards children.

I don't know why you felt the need to personally attack Whitney as though that would make your comments more persuasive. I suppose that is the intelligent way to discuss an issue in America is it?

Not everyone feels that adopting all of the orphans in Africa is a solution to the problems on that continent. I prefer to donate towards medications and medical care and access to potable water because this would help extend peoples' lives and reduce the number of children who are orphaned by disease.

sarah Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 07:01 PM EST

I tried and tried to enjoy this "blog" by Whitney. It is just plain boring and so not funny. You have NO idea what you're talking about, and are just poking fun at someone who has done a great deed. it is no ones business but her and her family's-you should not judge it or ridicule it.

Madonna bashing is so 1990's, move on, get over your jealousy and enjoy your life. This is the second blog about Madonna in a week, Whitney. Do you have anything else to say about any other celebrity? or are you infatuated with La Madonna? I think the latter.

Oh and BTW I live in London and she does NOT have a British accent...I do. It's a s american as they come.

lauren Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 06:58 PM EST

so the new hollywood accessory is adopted waifs? have little dogs been completely replaced? how about thebejeweled cell phone? totally out?

madonna makes me sick as does every celebrity else out there getting on this train for PR reasons instead of pure altruism.

and yes, this kid has a dad, couldn't she find an ACTUAL orphan to adopt? or did he best match the wallpaper in the nursery?

dan cullinane Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 06:52 PM EST

oh my god what is wrong with her face? is she slamming botox by the quart? so much skin has been removed from around her eyes they are only half there now...fortunately she never spends any time with her kids so they won't be too traumatized because can you imagine the therapy poor little david is going to need afer that face pops through the door croaking "mummy's home."

... Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 06:17 PM EST

Jenny -- for the "Papa Don't Preach" references, check out today's entry on pinkisthenewblog.com!

Joyce Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:55 PM EST

As an African, I detest the notion that our countries don't have laws. How then do we have judges, presidents, police men, lawyers etc. What do they do? I'm also beginning to worry that this "let's adopt an african baby" is becoming a trend. All I can hope for is that Madonna takes care of that child like her own and not leave him to nannies etc. It's good to be provided for financially, but emotional well being is key if not more important.

Chris Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:48 PM EST

Jaime,

SLezak slamming Limpballs for making fun of Michael J. Fox is NOT the same as Whitney whats-her-face slamming Madonna for adopting a baby.

First of all, Limpballs, who is a known DRUG ADDICT, has no business criticizing Fox who obviously has parkinson's disease. Really, how low do you have to go in the republican party to shore up support? Making fun of those who have a chronic disease?? Oh, that's right.. the morally superior are anything but moral.

Whitney slamming Madonna for doing something humanitarian is basically the same thing Limpballs was doing, slamming someone for speaking or acting on a good cause. So what if Madonna was able to fast-track her adoption process? EVERY SINGLE PERSON I know that has adopted or is looking to adopt have said that if they had the money, they too would have sped up or would speed up the process.

In fact, that should be the issue.. the fact that the system is broken and favors those with money, and not one woman doing some good in the world. How many children do you think Whitney has adopted? I bet zero is the correct answer.. how many times does she think about orphan children around the world before she goes to bed each night? the answer I bet is again, zero.

Madonna, for all her flaws and constant button pushing, etc.. has always been a charitable woman and has helped many, not just orphans, during her career span. She may not boast about it but has given millions upon millions since 1986 to help those with AIDS, cancer and other causes as well. This is no secret to those of us who have spent our lives working to help others, something I am sure Whitney knows nothing about.

The fact remains that people will slam Madonna no matter what, regardless of what she does, she will never be good enough for those in the US because she makes people face their hypocricy and short-commings by simply being herself, and I don't even like the woman or her music!

This is just pathetic, I can't believe we have ignorant people calling themselves Americans, it's no wonder we have such a bad reputation around the world.

Laurie Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:47 PM EST

I am from Metro Detroit and now live in Houston. I cannot contain my Michigan accent. It pops out when least expected. Even when I try to say ya'll it comes out wierd, ya'll. Her now British-like accent restraint is amazing!! Orange alert, hahahahaha.

Tino Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:34 PM EST

Nice job, Whitney. EWMVP.

My question: Is this Madonna baby thing the least interesting story of the year or is it the feud between the male actors on the girly ER?

Darkness Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:31 PM EST

Whitney, I gotta say it:

"Tigers? In Africa?"

Methinks someone needs a Monty Python refresher.


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