‘Lost’: More crazy details to chew on

Karley Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 12:29 AM EST

In a re-viewing of the book club on DVR it appears that each person actually was holding what appeared to be different versions of the book. Because the cover was only shown clearly on one of the copies, possibly they all were holding different books, but Carrie is the one shown to us. In the photo with this story, the man on the sofa has a paperback, with cover not shown. It is a lot thicker than the one being shown in the foreground - with cover shown. There was a discussion of this in some depth in a clues blog on a site I visit at http://www.LostExposed.com/ . Someone who is in the publishing industry said the version shown is a hardcover edition, that likely is a vintage edition, no longer in print.

anne Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 04:16 PM EST

Thank you, Michael Slezak! I was wondering which Stephen King book they were reading, and am also a huge fan, but I get so invested in the drama and the characters and the pillow clutching that I'm not as observent as I should be. Also thanks to Gary Susman, and anyone else who caught the book title.
That was a really good season opener. But, like last year's, I really wish they didn't totally focus on what was happening with Jack and whoever he's with. I love all the characters (ok, Sawyer AMAZING), but I'd really love to know what was happening back on the castaways' beach and the now-nonexistent-hatch.

Tre Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 03:01 PM EST

I think, Ned, if you read my post a bit more closely, I merely said that the show was reminiscent of the same "cultural phenomena" effects that those other two I mentioned. Also, I dont think of this as "poring over the message boards"; I read the EW blogs regularly, and when it comes to TV shows, I like hearing from long-standing fans of the show about why they like/dont like the direction their show is headed in instead of overly-important 'TV critics'.
Plus, it's a way to stay informed about the show w/o sitting to watch it. And my time IS spent on things I find personally more interesting, but I dont think it's a big deal if I spend a total of about 20mins reading and posting on a message board. Yeesh.

Ned Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 01:40 PM EST

toonces, no, CSI is not a bad example, any show that I don't like works because that's the point, I don't like it, so I don't watch it and obsess over why others don't agree with me.

toonces Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 01:21 PM EST

another thing
a) i love that they are using stephen king bc he is such the fan and that's a great tip of the hat to him. But i wonder what book it WAS. Which book is speakig in tongues? And how can it not be Carrie if some people know for sure that Juliet was holding the old hardcover edition of Carrie when she was outside, plus the guy in the picture above has the softcover, meaning they have to be reading Carrie, not another book, right? I think it goes with that poster who said that telekinetic power of the plane crashing just as Juliet was upset about something.
b) Greg Gunberg can in NO way be back on this. Plus what purpose does it serve? The pilot, it doesnt matter, we know the plane was brought down so to find out he happened to be in the AA mtg with Jack's father is really nothing enlightening. Sorry I really should just post this on the tw watch page.

toonces Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 01:18 PM EST

well not to be in Tre's defense, but against what Ned said-- CSI is a bad example, it's a formula show- i.e. Law and Order, Without a Trace, Cold Case, etc. These are not plot-driven or character driven to continue over throughout the season into another. (The only exception to those would be the Closer, I would guess...)
Whomever just posted about the plane crashing just as Juliet was upset, i love it. Very timely. So do we think Juliet was with Ben, or is Juliet like a different leader - i.e. vs. Ben. Like say Locke vs. Jack back in seasons 1 & 2?
I dont know!

Ned Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 12:06 PM EST

Well Tre, all I can say is I disagree, with Twin Peaks, there wasn't anywhere to go once it was revealed who killed Laura Palmer. As for The X-Files, it revolved around Mulder, and when David Duchoveny left, the writers weren't really sure what to do. Lost is the best written show on television, as far as I'm concerned.

And yes, your time would be better spent focusing on something you enjoy rather than a show you admit you just don't get(but still seem intrigued by, which speaks volumes). I don't understand why people like CSI so much, I watched it a few times, and did not enjoy it. I don't pore over message boards devoted to it in an attempt to understand it, I just watch the shows I like and let the fans of CSI enjoy their show without me yelping at them that their wrong to enjoy it. They obviously see something in it I don't, good for them.

Big Momma Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 10:30 AM EST

Tre = Hater LOL I couldn't help myself!!!!

Tre Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 08:56 AM EST

Before people jump on me with "well then don't post here", I read the Lost blogs to get a feeling (after watching a few eps myself), of what the 'craze' is that I'm missing. 'Lost' is ultimately another cultural flash in the pan series that treads water week to week, season to season in an elaborate attempt to figure out how to write their way out of a premise; see the X-Files and Twin Peaks for the same murky atmospheres, water cooler-talk and inevitable crash. I like EW--a lot, but similar to their fawning/hyping of Snakes on A Plane a while back, their 'Lost' agenda is pretty tired too, when there's sooo much out there to expose, report and showcase in the media.

But I'm sure I'll be labelled as a 'hater'.

Bre Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 08:37 AM EST

Could the Carrie book and the fact that the plane crashed when Julliette was mad. A little mind controled havic?

Maggie Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 04:50 AM EST

abc.com's photos of Wednesday's episode also show a little girl sitting and watching over an unconcious Jack...presumably it was cut out. I'm thinking maybe one of the kids from Sarah's school? Anyone else here notice it? It's photo #33

me Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 03:35 AM EST

dude, isnt it something that the hatch had a record player while juliet had a cd player???????

Ned Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 12:36 AM EST

I think it would be cool if it turned out Sarah's mystery man turned out to be Sawyer.

newbie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 09:18 PM EST

Is the lady in this book club shot the doctor that was talking to Michael or Walt in the huts?

jdh Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 08:35 PM EST

Also Henry said in season 2 finale, we are the good guys. Then bad guys must also be on the island. Henry and the others must also be telepathic or employee telepaths - i.e. the Jack Dossier and voices in the jungle.

jdh Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 08:11 PM EST

Walt was covered in water in the "vision", and where's Jack being held?

JP Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 07:34 PM EST

I think the identity of Sarah's friend is inconsequential. It all went to show Jack's obsessive nature & his stubbornness. That was his story arc for this episode. All during the flashback he was obsessed with the answer to his big question; finally, when he had the opportunity to learn the answer, he realized the more important question wasn't this little shred of knowledge, but is his ex-wife (and someone who he still clearly cares about) happy? That's the question he should have been asking all along. Perhaps if he'd asked that earlier, it might've saved his marriage.

Kate Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 07:19 PM EST

I'm disappointed they said Rodrigo Santoro was going to be in this episode and either a) he was briefly and I missed him or b) he wasn't at all and they lied to us! Lied! Can't wait for him...my eye candy has arrived. Oh yeah, and I'm happy Lost is back with new episodes.

DK Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 06:46 PM EST

Did I see the same episode as everyone else? The opening segment was cool, but nothing interesting happened during the rest of the show. Jack's backstory was boring. Luckily, it looks like things pick up next week. I think people were so desperate for a new episode that they are going wild for anything.

KarenP Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 06:38 PM EST

I just hope the show keeps messing with us -- answering questions, raising more, etc. LOVE IT!!!! I was cackling with glee at everything they threw at us last night. No other show can keep you guessing and thinking like LOST can. Keep on writing and talking about this show and just sit back and ENJOY the ride.

newbie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 05:44 PM EST

There can never be enough space devoted to this show! Not saying something else isn't worthy of attention, just not at this show's expense! I am unabashedly hooked, despite my self-imposed summer detox. As for the AA meeting, I was sure that I saw Grunberg (the pilot) looking around someone's shoulder to see what Jack was making a fuss about, too, however, someone on the Tvwatch page said absolutely not...

Paul U. Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 04:30 PM EST

I feel that EW as a whole devotes way too much space to this show...when I saw the insert guide to Lost recently, I screamed aloud. How many stories have you guys already written on this show? I thought I subscribed to Entertainment Weekly, not Lost Weekly. Granted, I have never seen it, and don't have a lot of room to hate..but it all does sound rather silly to me, personally. Let's get down to talking about another show...maybe Heroes?

Adam Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 04:24 PM EST

I just checked my tape and i'm confused. You guys claim that the "pilot" is in the AA group meeting, but I don't see Greg Grunberg anywhere. You are referring to the pilot in the pilot episode, right? Greg Grunberg played the pilot (and a character in almost every one of JJ Abrams' other projects).

Oh, and as for hardcover vs. softcover, there's a softcover copy of Carrie on Adam's knee in the picture. Different book club members had different editions.

RBlues Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:44 PM EST

"Speaking in Tongues" -- A sign of future (satanic) things to come?

Matty Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:38 PM EST

I got real excited when I saw the Speaking in Tongues cover. I was only mildly disappointed when Downtown played. I second GeeMoey's notion to just sit back and enjoy the show.

Lucy Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:28 PM EST

Thanks, kitty - my husband feels the same way; he thought last night was the best ep ever. And if my choices are watching Lost or Flava of Love . . . oh, the horror . . .

mike Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:27 PM EST

I'm glad other people noticed the pilot, I thought i was going crazy, no one believed me!

Kitty Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:22 PM EST

Thank goodness for you people who notice things like the pilot was in the AA meeting. I was proud of myself figuring it out was a Stephen King novel (which was obvious - clearly indicated when they all came out to watch the plane break apart) but no way I pick up it's "Carrie". If I had more time - I read more Lost chat rooms and blogs. Lucy - nothing wrong with you gaining an hour of your life back - but the first 6 minutes before the title has hooked me for the season!

Geno Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:20 PM EST

Lost is great TV. I loved the show last night. The more blogging about it the better! If you're not a fan of the show or the blogging, don't watch or read. Go watch "Flava of Love"........

Nick Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:13 PM EST

I have to assume that the song "Downtown" was a last minute change, due to poor test results, or inability to get rights to "This Must Be the Place."

What else would Juliette have listened to to calm her nerves? "Burning Down the House"? "Girlfriend is Better"? "SWAMP"?!?

Pitchmeister Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:10 PM EST

I think that the Stephen King book was just a shout out to Stephen saying thanks for being a fan - but one has to wonder how long they have been on the Island if her favorite book is Carrie and they still have it in the original hard cover format.... hmmmmmm (that came out in 1974 btw) - would have been funnier if it was a Harry Potter book.. LOL

Lucy Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:07 PM EST

Free at last, free at last! After last night's season premiere, I can officially, comfortably, and unreservedly reclaim one more hour per week of my life back from TV.

I had an inkling this would happen when I read EW's Lost article in the fall TV preview, and one of the producers was quoted as saying that this season would be all about the Others the way last season was all about the hatch. But my broken, battered heart couldn't really believe it was true until I saw the show last night. Even though they had chosen to focus Season Two on the dullest, least intriguing, most cliched cipher/symbol of all the many puzzles presented in Season One, I still couldn't imagine that they really intended to make the same mistake again.

But bless their hearts, they did. I didn't think it was possible for me to care less about a group of characters than I did last year's Tailies, but son of a gun, I do! I care even less about the Others!

Obviously it's me, my problem - I'm the one out of sync. It's my imagination that while the way they're arranged together might be different, the ideas, plotlines, characterizations, and even individual scenes are hopelessly familiar to anybody who read so-called "young adult" fiction in the 1970s or took a basic experimental psychology course in college. I'm just hallucinating - the Dharma Initiative has gotten inside my head through the Internet and Sprite commercials.

Please . . .

The producers (and Stephen King) have hinted that the sudden swing from any notion of spirituality and the supernatural to rats-in-a-Skinner-box dystopia between Seasons 1 and 2 was decreed by the network, and if so, that's a shame. Because for me at least, it has completely killed the show. I didn't mind a mix; I didn't mind not knowing which was true - I actually loved the whole mystery-wrapped-in-a-conundrum feeling of the faith-versus-logic dichotomy. But if all we have to believe in is the Dharma Initiative and their mathematical formula of Armegeddon, what's the point? It's just dumb.

I'm done. I spent all last season being ticked off because I loved the darn thing so much, I couldn't let it go, no matter how dull, silly, or infrequent the episodes became. Now I'm just tired - not even the promise of Sawyer shirtless can seduce me any more.

And trust me, that's really sad.

Paulie Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:06 PM EST

Wasn't the Talking Heads CD a DualDisc? It looked like one to me. If so, it was only released in February 2006, so was it a goof or what?

JL Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 03:04 PM EST

I agree - continue blogging about this show because whenever I see something new about it, I get excited. The more LOST the better!

Marc Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:58 PM EST

Didn`t Henry Gale ask to read a Stephen King novel while being held in the hatch? It was probably cause he didn't get a chance to read it when the plane crashed.

brandon218 Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:55 PM EST

Once and for all -- PopWatch is NOT too obsessed with this show! Lost is becoming (if not already) a classic TV series, and is certainly a part of the pop-culture lexicon: which is what this blog is supposed to be about, anyway. And a major part of the show's enjoyment (and our comprehension of it) is the water-coolering afterwards. Last night's episode was spectacular, and the discussion afterward (just like every week) only enhances the viewing experience.

Michael, Gary, and everyone else: keep blogging about this fantastic series as much as you like!

Klo Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:51 PM EST

great catch on the pilot, i havent seen that mentioned anywhere else!

Brett Colbo Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:45 PM EST

Did anyone else notice the pilot was at Jack's dad's therapy session? Creeeeeepy!

AJH Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:41 PM EST

I hope we never find out who Sarah ended up with. I really think this is a case where it SHOULD be inconsequential. First, as much as I like the occasional connections between the flashback characters, the show has to be careful not to overdo it. Secondly, and more importantly, what matters is not who the guy is, but what Jack is not (as Sarah says herself).

GeeMoey Thu, Oct 5, 2006 at 02:38 PM EST

Why is everyone in such a fuss about finding out what's going on on Lost? Just sit back and enjoy the show.