'American Idol': The inevitable scandal roundup

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AdidasRob Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:50 AM EST

To catgirl, Anisa and the rest of your ilk: I’ll not beat about the bush—you’re my enemies and I hate you. Faggots like me have had to endure the shrill screech of your moral condemnation all our lives. You and your opinions make me sick. If you don’t like gay people, don’t be one and just STFU.

Mandisa is a tremendously talented singer and I was sorry to see her go. But AI asks its audience to vote for their favourite singer(s). Mandisa simply didn’t get enough votes last week. We can speculate why this happened but we can never know. What we can be more certain of are the comments that she made in her Advocate interview. First of all, I don’t believe Ms. Hundley when she claims that she was unaware that her favourite author, Beth Moore, had anti-gay attitudes. I see her as being an intelligent person and incapable of such wilful ignorance. Secondly, while statements like “I don’t advocate homosexuality” may be reflective of her beliefs that doesn’t mean they are impervious to criticism or that they are not supremely offensive to gays and lesbians everywhere.

If she doesn’t support gay people, we don’t need to support her. I’m sure she will do very well without us. I’m sure the Winans will support her and help to bolster the persecution complex that the Pharisees love to adopt.

Jakob Fri, Apr 7, 2006 at 12:18 PM EST

The Bible doesn't have any specific mentions of gay couples living together, actually. References to Sodomy as they are in the current American dialect are misconstrued. Sodomy was sanctioned as a tool to be used against individuals during war and battle. Being sodomized or raped defamed the soul to God and was therefore a function of defliing captors and combators. Scholars for years have argued this fact quite successfully using the Bible as a reference for such connections. Sodom and Gemorrah were destoryed not because of gay sex, but because of gluttony and ire. The Sodomizer was not seen as defiled, it was the one who was sodomized. Many people undertstandably misconstrue these texts as Americans have little to no understanding of this historical background of the Bible.

Ashlee Simpson Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 12:55 PM EST

I heard Bucky and Ace are having an affair. The scandal is just about to "come out" on 20/20 next week.

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DOTTIE Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 09:27 AM EST

FRANKIE IS MY AMERICAN IDOL

Anissa Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 09:26 AM EST

Ok, now I have to comment on some of you that say there was no mention of the word "homosexuality" in the Bible. That may be true, but the references to the lifestyle was very present, can we say "Sodom and Gomorrah?" If you have any questions just look up Genesis 19:1-10. If you don't know about the story, God destroyed the cities because of it's wickedness, and sin. And the reference in the Bible is to the situation where two angels came to tell Lot that God was going to destroy the city, but He was going to spare Lot and his family. At the same time men from the city knocked on Lot's door to ask for him to send out the two visitors (angels) so that they could sleep with them. Lot then offered his two daughters to the men, but they did not want the women, so the angels struck the men blind so they could leave. God destroyed the city for other sins as well, but homosexuality was one of them. There is nothing new under the sun, and God addresses all sin and that includes homosexuality, even though that particular word may not have been used, the lifestyle is definitely mentioned many times in the Bible.
What does this ex-gay thing have to do with Mandisa in the first place? This is a singer competition!

Cindy Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 09:26 AM EST

I think the top will be Chris he can sing it all!!

DOTTIE Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 09:25 AM EST

I THINK THEY ALL SUCK!!!!!!!!!!! BUT CHRIS IS GOING TO WIN WITH HANDS DOWN SO STOP WRITING ALL THE STUFF ABOUT EVERYONE CAUSE YOU ALL ARE WASTING YOUR TIME BECAUSE THE WINNER IS GOING TO BE CHRIS CHRIS CHRIS CHRIS

BRENDA Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 05:17 AM EST

I,personally,didn't even catch the "gay thing". I did wonder about how the religious part of it would go over.I feel like she would have remained more popular, had she just kept her opinion to herself. we all have a right to feel anyway we choose,just don't don't go public with it in the middle of a contest, that we're trying to WIN!!!

mcshoc Thu, Apr 6, 2006 at 12:41 AM EST

I got a chance to read a lot of the comments from the writing and viewing public about the show and the many twists and curves the public is giving the production..... And I have to say that the public is judging from everywhere but their biased opinions.... firstly, it IS a competition..... and where there is a competition there is most certainly a scandal no matter how sensational it is built up to be...... Now let's be real: Did we really believe Kevin or Bobby or Lisa really had a chance to win it all? Hells no!!! But the actual judging coming from the PAYING fansscrew the thing up until the final three or four almost every season... You see, talent ALWAYS rises to the top; either you can sing or you can SANG.....and if you can SANG I bet you can't sing the most popular songs as picked by the PAYING public.... IDOL isn't any different than any other greedy faction out there.. You can't have a 'runaway' champion and expect to get paid.. so the show needs all the diversity it can recruit and all the controvery it can muster. If it is a contest, treat it as a contest... It's awfully hard to choose between purple and violet, and equally so when you have a good jazz singer vs. a good rocker... Gon't get it twisted; there is almost always one singer who's a tad above the rest; that's why they win, but the show's creators and owners are the ones who win-- right in the bank accounts!!!! Oh yeah check this-- remember each season's runner-up besides Clay? Well, do ya? But we all know William Hung..... figure that one out!!!!

catgirl1 Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 11:05 PM EST

Come on guys, Mandisa was punished for being a Christian and not going along with the gay lifestyle. There are millions of us dear hearts, and yes, being gay is a choice. Sorry. Don't worry about her, she will end up with a recording contract...............

EC Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 03:15 PM EST

I think the talent is a little off this year for Idols. I don't think the song selections are terrible. I think Paris and Mandisa are both good singers but Paris thinks she is going to win and she shows that she is so sure of herself. Better to be prepared for whatever comes because you never know. I think Mandisa has a lot of personality and should not be talked about regarding her personal life

johnboy978 Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 12:44 PM EST

Bottom line- Mandisa is still a very good singer and that's what this competition is all about.

Everyone is throwing a word around pretty freely. The word- Choice. It is a person's choice to feel a certain way about something. If mandisa is a homophobe it's her choice. But It gets me steamed when people refer to being gay as a choice. This is just total BS. I am a gay idol fan and I never once viewed my gayness as a choice. Why would someone choose to be harrassed, ridiculed, spit on, beat, and not be able to be with the person you love. I do believe in God and I have read the bible, But the way I feel about it is, I didn't choose this life, I was choosen.

Diva6 Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 12:12 PM EST

What is all the judging of Mandisa for, she is located centralized in the bible belt, Is there a problem with being a Christian and speaking on it, that’s what’s wrong in this country no one wants to hear the truth anymore. And the truth is you all rather believe that she has done wrong instead of believing in the message. She can sing, She can Sing!! and She is a performer... That is no speculation or perception; you all are being judgmental about everything. What skeletons are in your closet??? I suspect much.

I enjoy all the contestants and singing that is what an Idol is about their talent and contribution. Look at some of our celebrity's Elton John-Gay fans love him; Whitney Houston crack head fans love her; oh and don't forget overdosed Elvis he still lives in many hearts. What about those AI's? you must think and live outside the box to be a true American....

Diva Philosophy:

1) Free you heart from hatred 2) free your mind from worries 3) Live Simple 4) Give more 5) Expect Less

These character builders will help you be a better person as well as great judge of talent or personality, Please think about it, judge well and enjoy AI 2006.

Love Diva6

Janice Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 11:23 AM EST

Was it my imagination, or was Paula so messed up on whatever.... She could barely sit up or speak last night? I noticed the cameras trying to stay off her as much as possible. Paula, get a grip and wait till you get home to get hammered.

Donna Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 11:18 AM EST

Mandisa should go, had enough of her and to much mixed feelings about peoples lifestyles. Its American Idol lets stay with the singing

Angel Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 10:19 AM EST

Everyone has this idea of Chris being number 1. I do think he has good vocals, BUT... when it comes to showman ship, voice and personality I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN TAYLOR HICKS. Taylor is a fine performer and has greta talent.
Maybe some of you listen to ANTHRAX, well I can tell you I have known Charlie since he was 5 years old, when he got to be a young man and still playing drums people in the Bronx said he would never become a great performer. HELLO where is Charlie and ANTHRAX today. So all of you should take notice to Taylor, even if he doesn't make the American Idol, we will be listening to his CD'S soon. The Americans didn't believe in Bo Bice, look where he is today.

SO I HAVE TO SAY, DON'T GIVE UP ON TAYLOR HICKS.

secexec77 Wed, Apr 5, 2006 at 08:09 AM EST

Paris and Mandisa were horibble last night and McPheever not much better. Hopefully Paris or Mandisa will go. Neither are as good as they are made out to be.

lisa Mon, Apr 3, 2006 at 07:37 PM EST

Go Mandisa! It's funny that we can listen and be "force-fed" lyrics about drugs, sex, killing, lying, stealing, selfishness, etc., but then someone sings a song that represents them and it happens to be about Christ setting people free then there are tons of comments about "she should keep her personal beliefs to herself". Get over it! Through the media we are force-fed every day many things that many people don't believe in or agree with. But this is America...land of the FREE, where freedom of expression is a right.

I'm so tired of the words..."be tolerant" to everyone and every lifestyle. But then not seeing those who say "be tolerant" actually being tolertant to those who may not agree with lifestyles or personal choices that others make. Talk about hypocracy! Can't we just agree to disagree and respect people for standing up for what they believe... and let Mandisa sing what ever she wants. Again...go Mandisa! YOU ROCK!

nana Mon, Apr 3, 2006 at 02:04 PM EST

i vote for kellie she is tops with me, who cares about what sex they prefer, thats there problem

Lee Sun, Apr 2, 2006 at 01:07 PM EST

I cannot believe the ignorance of people. Gays do not choose an alternative life style, they are what they are and it starts from birth. Come on people, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, only love, and if you can't love unconditionally, you are only fooling yourself not God. As for who the next AI will be, I could care less. The only AI for me is Clay Aiken!

clarence Sun, Apr 2, 2006 at 10:47 AM EST

I was surprised that Katharine was in the bottom 3 last week she should have not been there she is one on the best singers on the show and will be the one to win it all. Buckey should have been the one to go and will this week. Ace also should have been gone as well and in the bottm 2.Mandisa has ties to the gar movement will also be gone soon and before her time to go in the next few weeks. Chris also needs to make changes our he will be gone soon going the same old thing not good. Taylor is a show boat and pulled through again and will not make it to the bottm four.

beth Sat, Apr 1, 2006 at 10:20 PM EST

I also heard Chris the night that Barry Manilow was there mention that he was doing a version of "Walk the Line" that Live had done. I thought that my friend and I were the only ones to hear it. People are just saying crap because they know he is gonna win! Go CHRIS!

sherry Sat, Apr 1, 2006 at 05:15 PM EST

i dont care what anyone else says,chris will always
be my favorite

susan Sat, Apr 1, 2006 at 10:13 AM EST

So Kat went from "almost as good as Christina A." to bottom two in 24 hours. How does that happen? Can you say, "scripted" drama?

dub Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 02:36 PM EST

having been a church camp counselor, i got the privilege of working with one of the finest Bible scholars in the nation for several years. did you know that there was no word for homosexuality in Jesus' time? did you know that many men -- specifically, kings and popes -- have chosen to alter the message of the Bible over time so that its translation fits their designs? does Jesus ever -- even ONCE -- say anything about homosexuality? (the answer to that is NO!)

one of the great things about America is the First Amendment-- it allows both the freedom of speech and the right for people to freely practice or abstain from any religion they see fit. and i think where others begin to get upset is when people like Janette & Tanner say "homosexuality is a sin... but i'm not judging you for it!" because, Janette & Tanner, no one who's not a Christian or who doesn't believe in God or who's gay is out there saying -- totally unprovoked -- "christians are heathens! Judaism, Buddhism, or WHATEVER is the way" or "God is dead!" or "heterosexuality is a sin-- if you accept Madonna into your heart, she will lead you away from your wicked 'straight lifestyle!'" to even suggest so would be not just ludicrous, but blasphemous in your eyes. the point is, think before you speak-- and consider this: if you're so quick to jump to Bible, you should seek to UNDERSTAND it before you preach it. the saying "judge not lest ye be judged" isn't meant as protection for you to hide behind WHILE you spout your views, it's meant as as a warning BEFORE you do.

anyway, i agree with Maya, it's all just conjecture, and 'Disa's still a beautiful, inspiring woman who isn't afraid to be herself. now that, i can support.

Jim Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 01:45 PM EST

If the spoken word introduction is indeed part of Mandisa's song, then that would make me think twice as to whether she was espousing her personal view. If she does agree with that, she has every right to believe it, but a show like "American Idol" is not the place to let it out.

She's been upfront since day one about her faith and I'm cool with that even if I don't share her belief system. I have no issues with her song choice, love her voice and believe, like someone else said, that she could be a major league dance floor diva if she chose that route.

Also, there's a huge difference between having moral issues with homosexuality and the dreaded word "homophobia." Remember, that word means fear of gays and I don't think she's homophobic--if so, she'd risk losing a lot of her potential fanbase. James Dobson defines homophobia to me, but that's another issue.

Edith Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:23 AM EST

Oh the judges never say anything to those they support when they make a mistake, LOL they only do that when they dislike a competitor.

As for Mandisa, she never said that, it is all just to hurt her in the competition. Just like the Ace is gay, and all the other scandals. Idol loves this because then you talk about the show. I still believe it is rigged from the top 12 on, they have already been picked in order of elimination. The winner is also already selected. That is fine, could care less anymore as this show is still a stepping stone for people with talent, as most can see you do not have to win to be successful, i.e. Clay Aiken.

Kevin Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 03:26 AM EST

Who cares if Mandisa is ex-gay? Her words, songs, and attitude have shown nothing but positivity. She is a glowing example of class and elegance! I doubt she'll win. I think America will pick Katherine or Chris in the end. It's funny everyone chooses to focus on the gay issue. Why don't you just get over it! Gay people and straight people are the same aside from who they kiss at night!

maggie Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:06 PM EST

wow.
let me get this straight. mandisa never actually came out and said she was anti-gay or homophobic, yet simply by association most of you have judged that she is (and started the rumor mill churning). so,...you're actually doing the very thing you're accusing her of--judging, discriminating, etc. etc.
i think the girl was simply exercising her freedom of expression....expressing a strong personal faith. last time i checked we still have the right to do that in this country.
she's cute and she can sing, and i like the fact that she's not afraid to share her faith. i'll keep voting for mandisa.

Liz Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:01 PM EST

About the Mandisa thing -- Just because Beth Moore has some links on her website doesn't mean Mandisa is 1) ex-gay or 2) a homophobe. I understand where she's coming from about Beth Moore being a role model in her life because Moore is huge right now in Christian circles for her books and Bible studies. Beth's writing has probably been instrumental in Mandisa's spiritual walk. I'm glad that Mandisa sang from her heart and just chose a song she loved. That made me happy.

jamal Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:44 PM EST

KATHARINE SUCKS, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!

George Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:13 PM EST

I thought the bottom 3 was pretty much right. Katherine had a bad performance. She is one of my top 3 favorite singers in the competition, but I just thougth she was off the other night.

I kind of expected Lisa to go. I like her and think she will definitely improve with age, but she was going home either this week or next.

janette Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:17 PM EST

I completely agree with Tanner. Having picked up a Bible myself, I can vouch for the "homosexuality is a sin" statement, as well as if you call upon God, He will forgive you for your sins. I cast no judgement whatsoever on anyone who chooses to live an "alternative lifestyle", as they are also human beings with a soul and deserve to be treated with respect just like everyone! As for Mandisa, singing a gospel song does not label her a "Bible-thumper" or homophobic person. It merely proves that she is an example of a true believer - one that is willing to stand up for God in the face of criticism and ridicule. I find it sad that so many are quick to judge her based off of a song she sang and who she said was an idol or inspiration of hers. Obviously, we wouldn't all be having this discussion if the song wasn't about God - which is also sad that Christians have to face so much ridicule for what they believe in. We need to leave the judgements up to our Creator. A pat on the back for Mandisa - she used her time in the limelight to express her faith to America.

Erika Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 05:25 PM EST

I don't care or want to know what any of the Idols" believe. I just want to hear them sing (or try to sing) and for my part they can keep their political/religious opinions to themselves.

Tanner Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 05:18 PM EST

Look people just because Mandisa stood up for her beliefs doesn't mean she's a Bible thumper or a homophobic. But if any of you have ever picked up a Bible and read the contents, it plainly says in the Bible that homosexuality is WRONG!!! I don't judge anyone for it though...that's between them and God. Even though homosexuality is a sin, God will forgive them of those sins if they call upon him. I respect Mandisa for standing up for God and what's right and it took a lot of guts to get up there and do that song knowing she would be persecuted for it. Amen Sister.

Maya Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 05:10 PM EST

Thanks for pointing that out, Julie. I don't know if that makes the whole "lifestyle" issue any better, but it's good to know the facts. I think that's the point: this "Mandisa is homophobic" is pure conjecture. It kinda seems like Mandisa's had a tough life, found God and herself thanks to Beth Moore's books about uplifting women (because that seems to be the main point of her message). I looked her up online, and she actually talks about the importance of not trying to change other people. It is possible to be a devout Christian without necessarily being homophobic, and it's possible to think homosexuality is against God without necessarily being intolerant in practice. It's also entirely possible to be homophobic without being religious! Look at all the crazy idiot frat-boy homophobia that passes for humor in various movies (and Brokeback's non-win). And p.s. Cole, dude, you need to get a grip: no God Pride rallies in America??? Are you serious?!! You may have heard of this organization -- the Republican Party?

Tommy Marx Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:46 PM EST

Why would the creator of the universe even CARE what people do? If everyone was killing everyone else, or stealing everything that wasn't nailed down, I could imagine him being pissed. But sex? I'd think he'd be happy people were getting along.

Julie Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:46 PM EST

I understand that not many Idol watchers listen to gospel music, but I know that Mary, Mary song that Mandisa sang and the words she spoke at the beginning are actually part of the song - they are not an adlib she was doing herself. I agree that she is more overtly religious than most previous contestants and I can't comment on the homophobia other than to say it is, unfortunately, prevalent in African-American culture, but she was not spontaneously proselytizing in the opening segment of the song.

sean Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:38 PM EST

How is believing that homosexuality is a choice (albeit subconscious) homophobia? To this point there are no scientific studies, which have undergone peer review, that have found any evidence of homosexuality being genetic. All the best explinations for homosexuality have been psychological and all have involved some form of choice. If M. thinks that you have a choice in what lifestyle you live, that doesn't make her a homophobe it simply makes her a person that believes we should take responsibility for our lives and not blame other things for our life. This is the position of the bible - you have a choice and not being homosexual is the choice God would prefer you to make. It's not that homosexuals are evil or in any way bad - it's just that living the homosexual lifestyle is not what God would prefer, just like God would prefer you not to commit adultry or fornicate or murder people. It's not anti-homosexual it's pro-choice with a bias in one direction.

Tommy Marx Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:28 PM EST

There is one big difference between God Pride and Gay Pride that no one ever wants to talk about. Many Christian groups actively manipulate the government to promote their anti-gay activities. Yet I don't see any gay groups trying to get Congress to make churches illegal. It's not like most gays have any problem with Christianity, but darned if some Christians don't seem obsessed with punishing and destroying gays just because they're gay.

As a gay fan of Idol myself, I have no problem with Mandissa singing a Christian song. I actually liked it, although I don't like when the backup singers actually sing the chorus. That was my one complaint regarding her song. Otherwise, it was a better song than she's gotten credit for.

However, I won't be voting for her anymore. Ironically, Mandissa was the only one I've voted for all along, since I was afraid some people wouldn't look past her weight to hear her great voice. I don't normally vote at all, but I wanted to make sure she was treated fairly.

Is she homophobic, or whatever buzz word you want to use? I have no idea. But her "idol" has written three books discussing homosexuality as a negative thing, and her idol's website links to three sites that offer to "cure" people, as if one's sexuality was a disease.

That's enough for me to start voting for Chris. As the likely winner, he probably doesn't need my support. But he's from North Carolina, he actually HAS a good moral system, and he doesn't seem like the kind of person that could give a crap what a person's orientation is. That's the kind of person I want as an American Idol. Last year, I didn't vote at all. This year, I'm gonna continue voting. But I'm going to vote for someone who would appreciate ALL their fans, not just the ones who fit a specific and discriminatory code of conduct.

One True Christian Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:26 PM EST

To Cole:

Hey, remember that one time racism & homophobia were cool? What was that called? The early 1900's?
I forget...

If in fact, "we are all people" as you so aptly suggest, then it seems like it would be wise of you to retract your statement decrying anyone who would "choose to shove their sexual orientation down everyone's throat." Mostly, because you're doing precisely that, except with your heterosexuality- which anyone could just as easily declare both a "lifestyle" and a "choice."

Oh, and last time I checked, they hold "God Pride" rallies at least once a week. Sundays, in fact, and all over America, too. It's called "church," and you should look into it. You might even learn something about tolerance and love of your fellow man- and not in that icky "gay" way, but in the way Jesus taught!

How cool is that!?

Sincerely,

an American who's fed-up with ignorance

kj Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 03:42 PM EST

i'm pretty sure there are plenty of 'god pride' rallies all over the US. and no one is shoving anyone's sexual orientations down anyone's throats. from the posts i've read, most of those upset by the potential homophobia aren't gay, just gay positive. and discrimination isn't a personal 'opinion'...it's bigotry.

cole Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 03:25 PM EST

To all of the "gay" AI watchers who posted here:
Frankly, if there was a gay person on AI being at the top of the headlines (because they were gay), you all would be yelling "discrimination". I can't imagine what kind of posts would be on this site! But what exactly would you call what you are saying about Mandisa just because she doesn't believe in the lifestyle you choose to live? We are all people, in spite of our beliefs, and yet you choose to shove your sexual orientation down everyone's throat. Mandisa is only guilty of having the same "in-your-face" belief about God as the rest of you do about being a homosexual. If there was a "God Pride" rally instead of a "Gay Pride" rally, I can imagine what kind of awful things would be said - it's completely rediculous and juvenile!

Tim Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 03:01 PM EST

Sorry, missed it. I tape the show each week and watch just enough to know what the kids sing and Simon's comments. Can get through the hour in about 20 minutes. Too much fluff.

daisyj Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 02:53 PM EST

I think we should give Mandisa the benefit of the doubt here. After all, saying she admires someone whose website links to other websites with offensive content isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of those views, and for all we know the 'lifestyle' comment could be referring to an unhealthy diet and lack of excercise. Until and unless she actually demonstrates some kind of intolerance, I don't think we should jump to conclusions here.

dma69 Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 02:47 PM EST

I'm torn as well. I think Mandisa is talented, but the homophobic rumors really bother me.

dub Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 02:19 PM EST

i love the Idol, and i like Mandisa. though i believe everyone has a right to their privately held beliefs and opinions, i definitely think Mandisa is getting dangerously close to crossing some lines. when public figures voice their private opinions, that's when they become accountable. moreso, if those opinions involve judgement -- implied or otherwise -- of a minority group, they need to be prepared for response- both positive an negative.

i loved Madisa before this, and will continue to support her- however now, i am slightly skeptical.

V.M.L. Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 02:19 PM EST

My love for Mandisa just went a little down. Homophobics make me sick, and I hope Mandisa is not a total homophobic and bible-thumper.

Now why did Katharine show up at the bottom? She's one of my favorites!

Sandy Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:40 PM EST

I am glad Katharine was in the bottom two, I like the others much better, especially Chris and Bucky.

Maya Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:20 PM EST

I'm torn about the whole Mandisa thing. I don't think we should crucify her (heh) on hearsay. I tried to find links between the ex-gay movement and Beth Moore but couldn't. Until Mandisa says something actually homophobic, I don't really think any of us have the grounds to say that she *is* homophobic. She's clearly a devout and active Christian, but she's never tried to hide that -- look at her profile in American Idol. But then, Kellie Pickler and Paris talk about praying and God a lot as well, so... I'm just sayin', let's not rush to judgement.

t3hdow Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:15 PM EST

I'm not an AI fan, but this scandal is actually creepy to me for one sole reasons: Mandisa's from Antioch, TN, which isn't far from where I reside. Hopefully, this is just overexaggerated news blown out of proportion, but I fear that this is only going to perpetuate the stereotype that Tennesseans (mainly Nashvillians like myself) are a bunch of homophobic hicks. And considering that's how I might be seen after this, I don't like it.

djm Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:38 PM EST

I'll start with Paula. Why oh why did Fox execs do that? I honestly don't know if I can handle 3 more years of Paula.

Elliott may have flubbed his lyrics, but I still think he was the best performance on Tuesday so I don't mind.

I didn't notice Taylors # during Mandisa's performance but I am glad it didn't cause them to repeat the show to have a re-vote like last time - I truly wouldn't have been able to sit through those performances again.

I was kind of annoyed that they gave Chris more airtime on Tuesday to explain the whole "Live" thing. I didn't like that they touted his performance as being so "original", but I was more annoyed that they then gave him a sit-down interview to further discuss it.

Now for Mandisa. As a gay Idol fan I am somewhat offended by the news about the "ex-gay" thing. I am not offended that she believes it, but I would be offended by her showing up on my television and making her beliefs part of her performance. If it's true than she will lose a large part of her potential fan base. We gays love our DIVAS and unlike the rest of America we don't care what size or shape they come in (Martha Wash anyone?). With her voice she could create some fierce dance club classics, but if she's out there dismissing us there would probably be some serious backlash. Maybe I'm wrong, but I honestly believe it to be true.

For me the only 2 contestants left to cheer for are Elliott and Taylor. To me they represent the 2 that need this competiton the most - it would be hard for either of them to walk into a record lable office and get a deal. This show has been a way for both of them to reach a huge audience and get their voices heard, and while it might be easier for each of them now, I still think the Idol experience would be more beneficial to one of them than the others remaining. Chris, Mandisa, Katharine, and Paris will surely get recording contracts regardless of where they place. I'll even throw a bone to Kellie & Ace - they both have charisma and while I have ZERO interest in hearing either of them sing I would be opposed to watching them act or host on Mtv. The only one left that does absolutely NOTHING for me is Bucky and quite frankly I could care less what happens to him after the show - i just know I wont be watching or listening.

Beverly Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:37 PM EST

Taylor and Elliott ae the only ones who can appeal to most people. Taylor is a true entertainer and Elliott has the vocals. Everyone else should go.

Krista Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:34 PM EST

This is the first season I am watching the whole AI.

I hate to see any of them go- but as it is a contest-

the next 5 to go will be
Taylor/Ace/Bucky/Paris/Katherine

brandonk Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:19 PM EST

I agree Christina. Mandisa totally looked like Paula had committed sacrilege or blasphemy or heresy or something. I know a lot of people are religious in this country, but that's been a big turn-off for me with Mandisa. She's got a great voice and personality, but she's got that God Warrior thing going on. Yuck!

Gloria Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:17 PM EST

For what it's worth; I think my favorites are still there
minus one (Lisa). For my money Lisa should've stayed and
Paris gotta rid of. Only because Lisa is a "classy" act,
and now to me Paris is starting to act more of a "Diva" instead
of a "Diva" in training!

America-Vote Paris off, Mandisa is one who should stay to the
end, and hopefully Taylor or Mandisa should become the IDOL!

Elizabeth Mills Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:07 PM EST

I really love Paris personally...I have been a huge fan ever since her very first audition. I love Chris and Kelly Pickler too. So far, the cuts are going just like they should IMHO.

As for the Mandisa thing, personally -- I would have a problem with the show being a platform for anything like "ex gay ministries." I mean, come on, people, if you had found out a week before the end of Season One that K. Clarkson was a Neo-nazi, you CANNOT say that her "personal life" wouldn't affect it and only her singing voice counts!

e Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 12:03 PM EST

I can't get your audio link to work to hear how the contestant messed up Gavin DeGraw. I'm not a fan of Idol, but I am a fan of that song.

Janean Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:52 AM EST

Elliott also mixed up the first and second lines of his song, if I'm not mistaken (sang them out of order, I mean). I think that's what threw him off for the third one. Doesn't matter, though, he's still one of my favorites.

Jill Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:17 AM EST

Did anyone else wonder if Shakira and Wyclef Jean were lip syncing? I thought his first line where he shouts out 'Shakira' was heard, but the camera was on him and his lips didn't move. I don't have Tivo, so I can't check for sure, but they both seemed really off and like the camera avoided too many close-ups.

jcoop Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:14 AM EST

lori,
judging someone for being gay is not the same as judging someone for being anti-gay. it is totally within reason to stop supporting a contestant who is intolerant of a group of people based on their sexual preference. just like it would be within reason to dismiss someone for being racist. hate is hate!

Jomcol Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:06 AM EST

Mandisa - American Idol?? I don't think so. Chris - a little too boring - but that man, Taylor Hicks, he has is all.

Lori Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:54 AM EST

What happened to judging a person on their performance and singing ability and talent...not their personal life!?! If someone wrote off a contestant because they were gay, wouldn't people be in an uproar? What Mandisa chooses to believe is her business. To judge her because you may believe differently is completely NOT tolerant!!!

Tim L Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:53 AM EST

Ah homophobia wrapped in the veil of religion. I love how people can't just be honest and say "I believe this." No they have to hide it in their religious beliefs saying "Well the Bible says so so it must be right." Well the bible also says we should see our daughters into slavery and not touch the skin of a dead pig. Guess it all depends on social context but as long as we have garbage like that performance last night being spouted we arn't going to get anywhere.

Christina Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:47 AM EST

From the second Mandisa's bio was posted on the Idol website she has come across to me as a so called "God Warrior." The opening to her song Tuesday night confirmed that to me. Plus did you see how uncomfortable she looked when Paula said that there was now a "church of Mandisa." When Paula said that it appeared that was a big no-no in her book. I'm not gay but I do fear that Mandisa does hold some opinions that a lot of people would not be happy with.

I caught Elliot flubbing the lyrics too. He recovered enough that it was a non-deal though.

Joey Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:47 AM EST

I hadn't read Mandisa's bio before this week's show, but was immediately pissed off when she announced she was going to be singing a Mary Mary song...aren't they the homophobic christian group who had an anti-gay song a few years back?

Brian Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:44 AM EST

Katharine was in my top 3 list, but America's bottom 2 list. WTF AMERICA??!

Brian Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:40 AM EST

Katharine was in my top 3 list, but America's bottom 2 list. WTF AMERICA??!

Ben Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:25 AM EST

Say it ain't so Mandisa!! I too am a gay Idol addict and I predict her to be Top 4 or even Top 2 but that won't happen if the speculation is true. And I have to say that Michael Slezak is my new idol...you are hilarious!

Josh Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:13 AM EST

I don't have it taped so can't check, but I could have sworn that there was a brief mention that Chris was performing another band's take on 'Walk the Line' during the little segment of him with Barry Manilow. Was I the only one who caught it, or have I imagined this?

jcoop Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 08:19 AM EST

i wasn't feeling mandisa's song...it dropped her notches in my esteem. and what else did she mean by 'lifestyle?' that's the international buzz word for gay and lesbian. unless she was referring to swingers.

David Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:48 AM EST

That's some pretty salacious stuff about Mandisa. It makes a good deal of sense (the pre-perf. shout-out and the ties to the ex-gay speaker). If I were betting - which I'm not but it's always fun to pretend you are - I'd put my money on this scandal growing in coming weeks (days?). I don't think she'll win regardless, but there's no way this new info won't cause a stir. She might be gone sooner than she deserves to go.

stefanie Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:42 AM EST

I totally caught Elliott's flub during his performance... I was shocked the judges didn't say anything about it, especially during this part of the competition.

thank goodness Simon finally told Chris something that I've been wanting to tell him for the last couple weeks. every performance is the same... it's true. He really needs to do something different... it's getting very boring.

my man Taylor pulled through yet again... I loved his performance.

I'm surprised there was no mention in this post about Katharine being in the bottom 3 instead of Bucky... and that she was in the bottom 2 instead of Ace...
that teenage girl demographic can really mess things up.