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The incredible shrinking stars

Jan 3, 2006, 06:05 PM | by Gary Susman

Categories: Film

143910__orlando_l''I am big,'' said faded star Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard. ''It's the pictures that got small.'' Today, however, it's the pictures that are big (King Kong, Narnia) and the stars that are small. Case in point: Orlando Bloom (left), whom the New York Times sees as a cautionary example of how Hollywood's current star-making machinery can't manufacture guaranteed box office draws anymore like they could in days of yore. (Way way back, like in Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts' day.) Even well-established names like Nicole Kidman or Will Ferrell can't necessarily open a movie these days (Exhibit A: Bewitched).

To me, this is a myopic way of looking at stardom. (And I say it not just because EW had this dearth-of-new-stars dilemma nailed a couple years ago in a cover story called ''Honey, Who Shrunk the Stars?'') Yes, stars are more disposable now, and for that we can blame reality TV, tabloid journalism, mediocre movies, or any number of causes. But we've also found ourselves in a situation where stardom is now divorced from its day job of making hit movies. It's now possible to be famous and even beloved without actually backing up one's fame with achievement. Colin Farrell is a star without actually having appeared in a hit movie, since stardom is now defined as much by ubiquity offscreen as it is by appearances at the multiplex. Similarly, if Bloom shows up on the red carpet on the arm of Kate Bosworth at this summer's Superman Returns premiere, he'll have done all he needs to do to maintain his stardom for the next year. And let's not forget the big-in-Europe factor that makes bona fide stars overseas out of Hollywood actors who can't open a movie in the United States.

Read another theory on why Bloom's career is flagging -- after the jump.

Finally, while hype often overtakes accomplishment, it takes just one solid performance for a potential star to cement his status -- see Heath Ledger, who didn't live up to his hype until Brokeback Mountain -- but those kind of roles typically come in indie movies seen by relatively few viewers. In other words, to advance your career as a mainstream star, it may be best to choose a role in a non-mainstream, possibly obscure project. Of course, that's a risky career strategy if you ultimately want to land $20 million paydays, but why should we dismiss as non-stars actors who'd prefer to do interesting work over bland but popular movies?

Still, there's something else missing from the Orlando Bloom/Josh Hartnett set, something the Times story doesn't get at because it's hard to put a finger on. That's a certain substance, a sense of solidity and gravitas, that a lot of contemporary stars lack. You could argue that this has been a problem for a while -- how substantive are Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts compared to predecessors like Gary Cooper or Katharine Hepburn? More than ever, individual movie stars are blank slates on which we project our own fantasies. Today's movie stars may be more versatile but also more elusive and ethereal, like they might blow away in a strong wind. George Clooney is one of the few contemporary actors who does have that old-Hollywood gravitas; maybe some of these younger performers will attain it as they grow older and more worldly. Which brings us back to Norma Desmond. ''We had faces then,'' she said of her expressive contemporaries. Today, they have faces but nothing else.

Which of today's movie actors and actresses are most likely to succeed Tom, Julia, and their peers as bankable stars who capture the imaginations of moviegoers?


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Josephine Simpson Tue, Jan 9, 2007 at 06:18 PM EST

This year, 2007, opens with Orlando Bloom being the second most sought after name in the world - according to Google. This is because i) his excellent but understated acting, see LOTR, Pirates I, Kingdom of Heaven especially 2)his personality which 3 millions fans truly love and appreciate because he does not and has never sought publicity - it came to him from pure popularity and appreciation, and his looks and demeanour.
Imagine, if you can, everything you do being scrutinised 24/7....How do these people curvive. Orlando conducts his life with ethics and with humility and modesty. Just watch this space - he is still young - only 29 and all those he is compared with are far older and more experienced. Anyone who is the second most sought after name in the world must be getting an awful lot of things very right....

Liu YunShu Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 03:53 PM EST

I think the stardom of Orlando Bloom is a little different from others.

He is discovered by so-called "teenage fans" themselves (actually many grown-up women among them have been just ignored as nothing...strange indeed),not by the advertising and pushing of the media.

The media's target was Viggo Mortensen or Elijah Wood at the very beginning, definitely not him. Audience, not the media chosed him. That's why he is becoming so huge a star so fast.

But, today's audience are very clever and unpredictable. They have learned through so many high-budget trashes, to choose films based on their content and quality, not the names of the directors, nor the names of the stars.

"Kingdom of Heaven" and "Elizabeth Town" have other bigger problems than the leading man. Poor, poor Mr.Bloom is unfortunately singled out as an easy target.

I still believe he is a "OK" actor now, and will be an excellent one in the near future. He is keeping a low-key private life actually, compared to most of the "star"s. All he needs is just one performance wonderful enough to zip naysayers' mouths.

Blecch Sat, Jan 7, 2006 at 03:17 AM EST

"...if Bloom shows up on the red carpet on the arm of Kate Bosworth at this summer's Superman Returns premiere, he'll have done all he needs to do to maintain his stardom for the next year."

Great article on the state of stardom vs celebrity.

Good to see too, that you've stirred up that army of gravitationally and ascethically challenged fangirls that prop up this useless waste of cinemagoers' money by endlessly buying whatever he appears in - mags, movies or whatever - thus perpetuating the studios' idea that a pretty face is always more valuable than real talent.

Daphne Fri, Jan 6, 2006 at 04:13 PM EST


Really interesting discussion. I agree with many of the points made above - the fact that you don't have to see a "star's" movies to follow them through DVDs and the Internet; the fact that now being a celebrity is a separate full time job, divorced from being an actor/musician/whatever; etc. etc.

It seems unfair to single out any newish actor as "failing" to open movies--no one is opening movies anymore at least at the box office. In fact, you could argue that people go to the theaters for the special effects - if you love a particular actor, wouldn't you spend your money on OWNING their DVD instead?

And why do we know everything about box office statistics and nothing about how much movies make on DVD, since that's where all the money is?

I also think that more and more the people going to the theaters are teens/young twentysomethings without kids, and parents with kids - they're the people who need to get out of the house. So you have mostly kids' movies, special effects movies, and comedies succeeding.

Yet another point - both the Classic Hollywood star and those 80's/90's stars (Cruise, Roberts) that the pundits like to talk about had specifc personas that the audiences like to follow. Cruise is always Cruise and Roberts is always Roberts and their movies don't succeed when they try to do differently. The actors today with "personas" are action stars and comedians (Stiller, Ferrell, Sandler). Not to say there aren't other actors with personas - but in fact a lot of today's better actors mix it up and try NOT to have one persona. Very admirable - but not a recipe for mega-stardom. Sure, very good actors have followings, but they don't open huge movies.

It's interesting that everyone is jumping on the Ledger bandwagon. Prior to this year (and especially Brokeback Mountain) he had "failed" in some movies and was doing some pretty low-rent stuff (what was that horror movie where he was a priest?). Now he's eveyrone's hero...but let's remember that a great performance and a bunch of awards is great, but no guarantee of box office anything.

Finally (sorry this is long) did anyone else think the New York Times article was wierd? It was too much about Bloom to be about No-Stars-Today, with a lot of unnecessary detail, and yet not really all about Bloom either. Is he not supposed to get a publicist and a manager and cut his fee to work with big directors? What did the clash between his manager and the head of the Firm have to do with anything? Wonder if those people suing him are spreading gossip.

And why blame just him? Isn't movie history littered with youngish actors who were the Next Big Thing (wasn't Chris O'Donnell getting lead roles for awhile? Matthew Modine? Kevin Bacon?) And Bloom isn't Olivier, but neither is Pitt, nor Cruise, and can you spell K-E-A-N-U?

Wasn't it just a little while ago that George Clooney was being sneered at for the Batman movie and Peacemaker?

Okay, enough. Thanks for an interesting discussion!

Sal Fri, Jan 6, 2006 at 04:21 AM EST

"...if Bloom shows up on the red carpet on the arm of Kate Bosworth at this summer's Superman Returns premiere, he'll have done all he needs to do to maintain his stardom for the next year."

What is this rude sentence supposed to tell us? That, Orlando Bloom didn't and doesn't need to work?! Simple math: 6 years and a dozen movies, some are shot in a period of over years, day&night.
So, is this supposed to be a piece of criticism?
This is just an ugly proof of how the 'tabloid journalism' -mentioned further in the text- rules the heads, corrupts the general objective look to the projects released and the understanding of reviewing, critisizing.

Teresa Thu, Jan 5, 2006 at 07:32 PM EST

The article states that today we have a myoptic few of celebrity. I wholeheartedly agree. I agree "It's now possible to be famous and even beloved without actually backing up one's fame with achievement" But who's fault is that? Is it the movie-going public who in this time of $10 ticket prices just want to see good film with relevent, worthy, entertaining or thought provoking material delivered by honest and believable performances? Or is it the whole entertainment industry who's criteria for stardom is whoever is chosen as "The sexiest Male Whatever' by some obscure pole, or being plastered on the front of a bunch of teeny magazines, or gossiped about on any of the obnoxious entertainment shows.

Orlando never said he was or wanted to be a star (whatever that is). All he ever stated was he wanted to improve in his craft of acting and to make the most of the opportunities given him to the best of his ability. He has done just that with hard work, respect, appreciation and with upmost integrity. Orlando has no one to answer to- critics or fans alike.

As far as having substance, solidity, and gravitas- these three attributes were evoked beautifully in Orlando's protrayal as Balian in Kingdom of Heaven, the crusader epic by Sir Ridley Scott that is now being called a masterpiece by crirics who have seen the extended director's cut being screened in LA. (This was the movie that was ruthlessly edited until it bore no semblance to the actully movie it was indended to be by the neccessities of movie making criteria today, thereby robbing Orlando of what truly was a groundbreaking performance). Giving a performance of 'gravitas' does not neccesarily mean shouting and screaming, or uglying oneslf up to give a full range of emotion.

Perhpas the 'old Hollywood' is fading away and maybe it's time to give this new generation of actor's a new set of criteria to explore their unique talents and visions.

Anka Thu, Jan 5, 2006 at 11:45 AM EST

Why can't people grasp the fact that everything changed besides Holywood? The movies these critics have been bashing now, are to be at the top of the tomorrow's 'must be seen' list. It is like that in every kind of art. And from another point, if those critis are [I]right[/I] about what is going on, [I]then [/I], those movies are going to be really great ones, because the future is going to be 'much worse' in Holywood. And why to compare today's movies with the old ones? It is like comparing Raphael with Monet without considering the historical distance. It is ridiculous.
And all these movies are (Pirates,Troy,KOH,Elizabethtown or the very most of the others) visual basic projects made to earn money and entertain people. The first priority is money. Any tabloid news about he actors/actresses are the free commercial. Even KOH, the most political looking, but just a politically correct and mutilated by its own studios, is designed to give people (mostly to Americans) what they want. And the director's cut will be the future's greatest in his genre.

And it is really hypocrisy to build the Holywood culture by the terms of bigger,faster, more beautiful,more handsome, more, more, more of anything. Theeeen, to judge the results against the idea of itself. Slamm ! We suddenly have a perfect definition of "the ideal actor" This gravitas, as far as I understand is something related to some people's idea of masculinity and taste of male composure. Which is again started to change long ago from Orlando Bloom's leading roles. And what is it with this man, every weekly writer sees to bash him as his/her birth right? I have seen the NYT article and it is a professionally designed "I know all the back stage gossip and I can make it look like an article" Like every movie other then Bloom's is the top art piece, the writer recognizes the new Holywood and proving her point by dissecting a succesful actor's (Excuse me but getting to a point as his, in the way he did is SUCCESS in almost every book) career along the lines of inner workings and dynamics of Holywood.
The big movie. What does make a movie big? Director? actor? Script? Plot? Hype? All of it combined? Well, I am not the expert but an actor, all by himself cannot make it stink. If anyone does plaese bestwo him a special Oscar, it requires more talent than to get an actual one.
Holywood (or writers), needs to make clear the definition of following words; star, actor,celebrity,stardom,fandom...
"Yes, stars are more disposable now, and for that we can blame reality TV, tabloid journalism, mediocre movies, or any number of causes." In this sentence, the only thing about the movie industry is "mediocre movies". I correct myself: The only thing that should be related to the movie industry is "mediocre movies". If critics and writers are extending and relating the problem of lack of talents, good projects; major problems of Holywood, with the trendy definitions of tabloids...etc, (i.e. we are all aware that there is a 'celebrity' called Paris Hilton, aren't we?) well, Holywood needs an alternative universe to dwell on.

I congratulate Orlando Bloom for all of his movies, for staying grounded, being bold enough to work with the best, without the fear of failing just to learn and for being that conscious about himself to declare all this out loud.

PS: In general to all critics and writers who likes to bash Bloom. Please check your facts on the previous casting issues Russel Crowe- Riddley Scott and Ashton Kutcher-Cameron Crowe related to Bloom, it is getting ridiculous.

Cat Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 11:21 PM EST

Hollywood loves to blame someone else besides themselves. There are many reasons for a hit movie; good script, good direction, wonderful editing and competent, preferably great actors. Now some movies have succeeded with only three out of the four but when a movie is missing two of them then you are going to have a failure. Kingdom of Heaven failed because FOX insisted on cutting the movie down to a certain time limit. Because of that, the editing of it decimated the character's back-story and plot. Audiences will sit for a GOOD MOVIE, no matter how long it is. But all they are looking at is the bottom line, the money. Now, here they shot themselves in the foot. Because if they had put out the Director's Cut of the movie, all of their problems would have been solved. Wonderful editing put back what most critics and fans thought was missing, it filled in the gaps. I wish I could fire the FOX executives responsible for this. They not only did Orlando and Ridley a great disservice but also the fans. It's the difference between a masterpiece and a cheap knock-off.

Orlando is a young actor who unfortunately got probably the biggest hit of his career right out of the gate. He didn't have to work years struggling with small roles, unappreciated, slogging away. No, he got Legolas in a trilogy of films that will forever be seen as the benchmark for success. So how do you follow that up when Hollywood comes calling, tempting you with big roles before you are ready? It takes a strong man with a strong team behind him to say NO, not until you are ready. Unfortunately, the team he has behind him are pushing him into leading man roles he was JUST NOT ready for. He needs to toil away learning his craft a bit more first before taking on that kind of responsibility.

On paper both Elizabethtown and Kingdom of Heaven looked like sure fire hits. Great directors and especially with KOH, awesome supporting cast. Editing ruined that movie.

nezzie Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 08:59 PM EST

I just don't get all the hype. Either you personally like an actor or you don't. Your personal feelings about an actor affect your reaction to his/her performances. You either like a genre of movie or you don't. Personal choices affect your reaction to those type movies. You either have a good writer or you don't. Troy for example was thought okay by most who like "gladiator" genre, but didn't like Orlando's performance because he was a wimp in it. But, he was supposed to be a wimp...you'd know that if you read the Iliad. Therefore I personally thought his performance was dead on. Elizabethtown was just a good old fashioned boy finds his way out of everything bad thats happened all at once with the help of a ditzy girl movie. Again, he played the part with a sense of young man totally lost/confused with the things going on around him. I felt his confusion, pain, need for love and passion. I live in the South and thought this movie was a fine example of what really happens around here many times when a loved one dies and family members return who long ago moved away. You either "felt" this movie or you didn't. And I think that feeling it or not has a lot to do with your personal experiences. As for Kingdom of Heaven, I blame Fox for its dastardly murder of what would have been one of the finest films this year. If you have watched the extras on the DVD you sense the dedication and excitement that the actors/director and producer had for this film. And recently it has received exceptional reviews for the one theater showing of the Director's Cut. Orlando played again a young man who had to "grow and become someone different" in this movie. Many of the scenes supporting his growth were cut out along with many others. The only time I think he didn't quite make it in this movie was during his speech just before the main battle. I guess it felt less than it should have because of similiar speeches we've already heard several times (for example Aragorn's in LOTR just before the battle at the black gate-no actor IMO will ever give a more inspiring pre-battle speech). Stellar performances? No, but pretty good for a very young actor who is just getting started. Besides, what actor would turn down a chance to work with these directors? Orlando, himself stated he has much to learn, but is proud of his performances so far. As Maggie said many of today's stars didn't have stellar performances when they were starting out. I happen to think Orlando's are better than most of Cruise's or Pitt's early movies. Maggie also said that today's hurry up, throw away, impatient society extends it's attitude to movies and actors as well. Society wants a star over night and if not they move on to the next guy. Very few actors are going to "make it to the $20 million" mark in a hurry today. There are just too many variables. Someone else said "it takes the right movie at the right time." Orlando's will come!

Maggie Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 05:53 PM EST

I do think that Orlando Bloom is being unfairly singled out in the media’s current diatribes on stardom. Yes, I’m a fan - and I am also a rational, mature film fan who goes to the movies (of many genres) as frequently as possible.

Who makes people a ‘star’? The media! And unfortunately they love to build someone up, be it from roles they’ve played or their personal lives – but they love even more to tear them down. The only reason his career is ‘flagging’ is that the media says it is. Is he out of work? No.

I doubt that you’d find very few legitimate actors who take on a role in anticipation of it making them a ‘star’; they take the role because it’s interesting, they like the script (before it hits the editing room), or they want to work with a particular director. ‘Stardom’ doesn’t figure into it. Who would want that anyway? The tabloid media hunts them down like animals via paparazzi, prints unfounded rumors and gossip (if they can’t find any dirt, they make it up), and the ‘legitimate’ media tries to overanalyze them, build them up then tear them down. Actors do it for the love of their craft and joy of the work. Bloom has been acting in films for all of 6 years – right out of drama school. Would anyone here have advised him to not work with Ridley Scott or Cameron Crowe, both admired directors with excellent track records? He was hired for these roles, and others, as a result of extensive auditioning, often beating out more experienced and better-known actors. Would he have been chosen if he ‘couldn’t act’? I highly doubt it.

Fox has released a ‘Director’s Cut’ of Kingdom of Heaven at one theatre in Los Angeles (after mutilating the theatrical version last May), and it has received very positive reviews for both the film and Orlando’s performance. There is more back-story and expansion of scenes (with a three-hour screening time). It has been described as the ‘epic’ it should have been. More than a day late, as not many moviegoers will be willing to see a longer version of a film they weren’t impressed with in its initial release. So we wait for the DVD, which will be released later this year.

Entertainment magazines often base stardom on people’s looks (with the ‘sexiest’ or ‘hottest’ labels). Honestly - if Bloom looked like your average guy (Paul Giamatti, for example) or not-so-average guy (Steve Buscemi, John Turturro) – would he be criticized so harshly? (Or would men, for the most part, dislike him?)

And keep in mind – Bloom is only 29. He himself admits he is still learning. Many of the other actors mentioned here are quite a bit older: Hanks, 49; Clooney, 44; Cruise, 43; Pitt and Depp, 42; Hoffman, 39. They’ve had years of experience, both in acting and in life. Russell Crowe, one of our most respected actors, made some real stinkaroos in his early days. (And was nowhere near the talent he is today.) I should know: I’ve seen all of them. None of these actors were thought much of in their early outings – and all have made plenty of poor film choices. But they have learned, and proven themselves over time by building their resumes.

This is a use-it-up, throw-it-out society and people have become impatient, with short attention spans (e.g., faxes, EMs, mobile phones, microwave ovens). These days, that attitude extends to films, television...and to actors.

Vancouver Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 05:17 PM EST

The Orlando Bloom-Heath Ledger analogy is a false one, and overlooks (in my opinion) the main factor in the whole actors/stars thing. Heath Ledger has always been able to act, and Orlando Bloom patently can't act. (I say this as someone who was as enamoured of his face as the next girl, back when Fellowship came out.) Heath Ledger has always been the best thing about the movies he's in, and sometimes the only good thing; Orlando Bloom is always the worst. If he had taken the lead in Brokeback, it would have been a travesty and a disaster. Witness the passel of up-and-coming pretty boys in Wilde: Orli turns his cameo into...a cameo; Ioan Gruffudd was memorable as one of Wilde's lovers (speaking of actors who COULD have taken the role in Brokeback), and went on to carry entire mini-series, and to be by far the best thing about Fantastic Four, not to mention King Arthur. All pretty boys--or pretty girls--are not alike.

sp Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 04:11 PM EST

i think that there is waaaaay too much overexposure in most (not ew) magazines of celebs. its also the reality tv thing. and bad scripts....bad movies...the list goes on. i think that orlando is a fine actor but thanks to lotr, he was thrust into things very fast and expected to be able to open movies way too soon. i mean, remember tom cruise's first few films besides top gun? it took him years to be able to open a movie...and he still can even with a few loose marbles. expectations on actors today are way too much, there is no time to build your career. its instant gratification at its worst. orlando is no johnny depp (who is) but i think he can have a long career in front of him if he chooses his projects more wisely.

Leila Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 03:53 PM EST

i don't find this entirely accurate. Orlando didn't get stuck in that self-gratifying sinkhole that some actors do...his intentions were good, they just didnt pan out. if you remember, his first few movies after LOTR were indies, Ned Kelly, the Calcium Kid, and Haven. nobody saw them, but he said he wanted to mix big movies with indie ones. he decided to work with a smart, acclaimed director, cameron crowe, for the dud elizabethtown, but even hot directors slip up sometimes. troy and kingdom were also with great directors he could learn from (both of whom have won academy awards) but the films just landed wrong. i dont think its lack of skill, its just bad luck. Orlando doesnt run around, blowing things up and having illigitamate children like *cough* colinferrell...his last choices just didnt pan out. what can ya do if your script stinks? pretty much nothing.

blah Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 03:40 PM EST

I don't feel like Orlando Bloom or Colin Farrell are stars appointed by the media and shoved down my throat. I think both of these actors were first discovered in their own right. With Colin Farrell it was Hart's War where I first saw him. It was a terrible movie, but I remember thinking he was good in it. And with Orlando Bloom it was LOTR of course. The media just picked up on these actors I think because they're gorgeous and they were good in what we first saw them in.

I do agree that the media then grabbed hold of them and did things like stick them as leading men in movies that weren't necessarily the best for them. Take Orlando Bloom. I agree that he's just not a leading man yet. I like him, but he needs a lot of support from those around him. With LOTR, Troy, and Pirates of the Carriabean (not even trying to spell that right. :p) he had Viggo Mortenson, Eric Bana, and Johnny Depp at his side, and those are actors who give very...meaty performances shall we say. On his own, if he's not with a great cast, he is very blah. I'm not saying that means he can't be a lead actor, just he'd better have a better supporting cast than Kirsten Dunst. Ick.

As for Colin Farrell, I feel like he needs someone there to reign in his free spirit. Like Minority Report, his character was a serious, clearcut guy. He acted it great. But for Alexandar and Daredevil he was this crazy guy that didn't make for a very likeable character, which was fine in Daredevil, but it's not usually a good thing when you don't like the leading hero in a movie like Alexandar.

I think it's not that hollywood and the media is shoving these stars down our throats necessarily, it's that they're not taking the time to put them in the roles they're good for. In that sense it's true that the movies are big but the stars are small. They're small because they're out of place. You can't just say Orlando Bloom is in a movie, go see it. There has to be at least one of the following: good supporting cast, good writing, good directing, good timing.

And I also think that even good stars make bad movies. Like Nicole Kidman. She really confuses me. She's always good in what she does, but I don't know what makes her choose the movies she chooses. Stepford Wives? Bewitched? I wouldn't see those even if the movie was free. I think sometimes stars get lazy and just pick bad movies because they'll get the money. Can't really blame anyone but the stars for that one.

Jacque Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 03:36 PM EST

I think that the movie industry is no longer the "movie" industry in the sense that they are focused more on actors than content. It seems that they assume that since they have a drool-worthy star, what he's saying/how he says it takes second priority. When I go to the movie, I look at what the movie's about, not who is acting badly in it.

danielle Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 01:50 PM EST

i think once you know too much about an actor personal life it destroys their credibility as an actor. case in point......jennifer lopez. she was great in selena and the movie with george clooney. once she became a media magnet with her high profile relationships, her believability as an actress was destroyed.

Ashley Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 01:31 PM EST

We see enough of these stars and celebrities online and in magazines and on TV and in gossip columns. Then we see the same movie clips and trailers over and over, over-hyping mediocre movies, and which give away most of the movies' plots, and then we read the reviews that tell us to wait until it comes out on DVD (or not see it at all). So why shell out money for a movie? I'm very selective about what I actually see in the theater, just because you get so much info about the movie beforehand to know whether to skip, see, or wait for DVD. Doesn't matter who's starring. If I want to see Lindsay Lohan or Tom Cruise, I'll just go online and read the latest gossip about their (pretend) real lives. It is the stars that are truly talented AND keep their private lives private...those are worth cherishing. (i.e. Kate Winslet and Philip Seymour Hoffman)

Darby Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 01:17 PM EST

Availability of entertainment media is the reason our 'stars' can't always open movies big. Case in point: Love Orlando? Want to drool over him? But his new movie looks like it sucks? Just pop in your LOTR DVD or watch the 1st 10 minutes of Troy one of the million times it is playing on cable this week, and drool away!! If the movies at the cineplex aren't GOOD, you can find your favorite star any other variety of places without having to sit through the new trashy film. 20 years ago you had to wait for the star's new movie to come out because that was all you had! Today it is totally a different ballgame, and it is never going back to the good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) ol'days.

dma Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 01:16 PM EST

1) A pretty face does mean they can act. Orlando is nice to look at but is bland as toast. Ashton is a pretty boy with a sense of humor, but can't act (see Butterfly Effect).

2) If Hollywood would stop shoving certain IT stars down our throats (Colin Farrel), maybe then we'll be interested. Brad Pitt wasn't hyped to death when he did Thelma & Louise. The audience discovered him. Let us pick the worth ones for a change.

Dee Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 12:21 PM EST

There is a difference between a star and a "media-made star." The industry and media both attempt to make the latter a star, but the public knows the difference. They may buy a magazine with them on it or look them up on the internet but there is nothing prompting them to go see their movies except on video.

Bloom is young and needs time to find his distinctive voice. He is not the only one with this problem though and its a shame he is singled out. The media, etc., annoints these media-made stars with a status they haven't quite earned in the public's view. Bloom is a good actor but outside of blockbuster movies, he hasn't established his distinct voice. There are plenty of sensitive types out there but what uniqueness does he bring to this genre of movie actor? We don't know yet. Perhaps we'll find out in time. In the meantime, there are plenty of role models to follow. Many actors have gone about taking eccentric but not necessarily leading man roles, to find their voice (i.e. Johnny Depp, Billy Crudup, Ewan McGregor, Jude Law, Terrance Howard, Clive Owen, Ethan Hawke, Colin Farrell). Not all good actors (including some of the ones I just mentioned) ultimately end up being able to open movies though. Some are just meant for supporting character actor parts and there really isn't anything wrong with that if the actor's ego can take it.

Jamie Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 11:56 AM EST

I would pay 10 bucks ANYDAY to see Orlando Bloom in a movie rather than Tom Cruise.

Tim Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 11:27 AM EST

There are very few true movie stars anymore. I don't see a Bogie, Gable or Hank Fonda coming up in the ranks anytime soon, either.

And look at the quality of pictures that are churned out of Hollywood.

SF Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 11:23 AM EST

I think the biggest problem is that professions are being thrown in the garbage. Movie companies no longer look for a great actor for a role, they look to cast the person(ality) that sells the most magazines, whose personal life people are the most interested in. Reality stars are cast, rappers and singers are cast, and that's why there is so much crap being made. Models no longer get covers of magazines or to be the 'face' of a campaign, unless they're gossip staples themselves, those plum assignments are also given to the most talked about celebrities.

Giorgio Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 11:17 AM EST

All it will take is one good movie (not necessarily a box office smash)and Orlando Bloom will be on top. Look at recent turns by Heath Ledger, David Strathairn and Philip Seymour Hoffman. None is in what would be considered a 'big' movie, but all are almost guaranteed best actor Oscar nominations. Bloom should look for the quality projects and forget about the 'guaranteed' hit.

Terrell Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:33 AM EST

Lily is absolutely right...the problem with being a STAR today is that people like Paris Hilton are celebrities without having achieved anything. In a business like this (or any career, for that matter), if you want to make your way up the ladder, you have to pay your dues. Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts have been in the business for quite a while...the longevity of any newer stars and how hard they work will determine their true star status...it's not an overnight deal.

Ron Mwangaguhunga Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:30 AM EST

It was inevitable when stars started making $20 mil and getting private jets and backend. There had to be a backlash.

dan Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:25 AM EST

sick of the celeb factor nowdays....grew up on black & white films and leanrned to love movies from the likes of tyron powers, carey grant, and james stewart....people honestly want to follow and put the likes of paris hilton and orlando bloom up on a pedestal because they have bought into the glitz of hollywood today. I agree with Danny on the observation that Kate Winslet is one of the best actors to come out of hollywood in some time....(see eternal sunshine)

Tosy and Cosh Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:24 AM EST

The biggest beef I have with the whole premise can be encapsulated in the Ferrell and Kidman example cited. Bewithced flops and it proves that Ferrell and Kidman aren't stars? Insane. Ferrell had a few hit movies and Kidman has starred in as many bombs as hits, if not more. The notion that a star can make a movie a hit has been just plain wrong for years. Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks are the only two I can think of who consistently bring in audiences - any other "big star" has his or her share of big flops, and this has been the case for at least 20-30 years.

derrick Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:20 AM EST

HELLO NEWS FLASH.... WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP POUNDING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY FOR SLACKING TICKET SALES. EVERY YEAR YOU READ ALL THESE ARTICLES ABOUT THE MOVIE INDUSTRY ANNUAL RETURNS DOWN 5%...75%... BLAH BLAH BLAH.
CALL ME CRAZY BUT HAS ANYONE STOPPED AND CARED OR DARED TO THINK... THE MOVIE INDUSTRY WILL NEVER EVER BE THE SAME AND CAN NEVER EVER GO BACK TO THE PAST GLORY DAYS..? HELLO WE HAVE COMPUTERS AND THEY ALLOW US TO LEGALLY AND ILLEGALY DOWNLOAD MEDIA SO WHY GO PAY TO WATCH A MOVIE WHEN U CAN EASILY GET SUM1 TO BURN IT FOR U OR DO IT URSELF. ITS NOT FAIR THAT THEY CANT COMPETE WITH ALL THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT ENTERTAINS PEOPLE. SO DONT BLAME ACTORS FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO OPEN HIT MOVIES. CONSUMERS JUST HAVE TO MANY OTHER OPTIONS THESE DAYS. AS FAR AS SHRINKING MOVIE STARS CAN ANYONE SAY "PARIS HILTON" HAS SHE BEEN IN A HIT ANYTHING EVER? YET SHES A TOP MOVIE STAR..

Lene Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:08 AM EST

I read the article in the NYTimes and was frustrated that they didn't include another factor: the movies they cited at being proof that various "stars" couldn't open a movie were not very good! Don't blame the star if the movie sucks (although an excellent actor can make a bad movie better, they can't take it all the way to 'good'). A second factor is, as mentioned by other commneters, that actors aren't given enough time to slowly build a career - if they appeal to the teenybopper set, they're given huge movies, but that's not a large enough fanbase to be a success, so eventually we go back to having CGI be the star instead.

I miss real movies. The ones with good writing.

pop Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 10:03 AM EST

i agree with the article, i have been saying this for years! people like jennifer lopez, jennifer garner, orlando bloom, natalie protman etc. have never really had big hits and they don't really have the acting skills to carry a film, yes they are atractive, but after a while that doesn't carry you.

but since tom cruise and julia roberts are great actors either who knows who will be the next star

Allah Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 09:17 AM EST

Hey David - for someone who isn't a 'huge Colin Farrell fan' you certainly seem to know everything about every movie he has ever been in. Hmmm.

Simone Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 09:15 AM EST

Loved the commentary on stardom today. Case in point would be Pitt-Jolie. Not great actors, very few big hits between them. Became A-list tabloid stars due to a personal scandal and in their case, it translated at the box office - probably an anomaly based on good timing and curiosity more than anything else. But to be a star today - Paris Hilton for example - seems to be mostly about being famous for the sake of fame, with actual 'creative' projects serving as marketing tools to extend that fame.

gia Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 08:23 AM EST

So she may have started out a freak, but hasn't Angelina Jolie settled into some form of gravitas? She has had some good performances (Girl Interrupted), some glamour star turns (Mr. and Mrs. Smith), and some crap (Beyond Boders). But she also has a personal like with some meaning and mystery (UN work, house in Cambodia, anyone). She'd get my vote for the exotic old style star position once filled by Garbo and Bergman.

Mitchell Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 08:21 AM EST

Orlando Bloom's movies (other than Pirates) stink. They're boring, self absorbed, poorly written pieces of garbage.

Middento Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 08:08 AM EST

What a great meditation on stardom! I'm teaching a class on the subject this semester and I shall make my class read this. Thanks!

david Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 06:27 AM EST

Okay everybody, let me clarify exactly why Colin Farrell is a 'star'. Way back when, he was an unknown, and I mean 100 percent unknown, irish kid who played a goon/henchman in a couple irish flicks. Joel Schumacher saw him and put him in his vietnam era-boot camp flick called 'Tigerland' and became a minor hit critical darling and Tigerland developed some support underground when it came out on DVD (i was one of those. Picked it up just looking for a war movie that looked a bit diffrent, had no idea who Colin Farell was and watched it. He was amazing in it.) Anyway, then Steven Spielbrg put him in his high profile movie starring the major wattage star Tom Cruise and Colin got exposure. He has since, been in middling films with varying degrees of success: from bombs that nobody remembered the week after they were released (American Outlaws) to relative bombs that he didn't actually star in, like Daredevil, and the list goes on. He's done a lot of ambitious projects that have all failed in one way or another and I say so what? He gets work, he seems happy about it. He did a great but tiny performance in the Irish films Veronica Guerin (I think that was the title) playing a soccer hooligan, and Intermission, playing a smalltime hoodlum amid a cast of about 15 other actors, some established (Colm Meaney of Star Trek), some about to be stars (Cilian Murphy). Then he did Alexander, which was bad, but he failed very publically which kept him in the spotlight. Now he is about to release quality work in The New World. This will be his movie that will raise his star. It's amazing and he is amazing in it. I'm not a huge Colin Farrell fan but I don't think people give the guy enough credit. And yeah, Orlando Bloom is not strong enough on his own.

Jason Wed, Jan 4, 2006 at 12:13 AM EST

Despite her new baby and hubby, my pick to succeed Julia is Jennifer Garner. She's lovable, versatile, beautiful, and her smile is worth a million bucks- just like Ms. Roberts'.

Graeme Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 11:56 PM EST

One of the big problems is that people hype newcomers so damn much and create way too big expectations. Name one up-and-coming actress in the last 10 years who hasn't been labelled with the title "the next Julia Roberts". Only Sandra Bullock and Reese Witherspoon have been able to overcome the pressure. Everyone else just gets too hyped because we expect too much. And what's so amazing about Julia Roberts anyways?
I hope Rachel McAdams doesn't fall victim to this as well because she's an absolutely fantastic actress. I think she will overcome it like Bullock and Witherspoon because she's got real talent, charisma, and she's strong on-screen unlike people like Kirsten Dunst.

Laura Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 11:18 PM EST

I think Hugh Jackman is a bona fide star in the Old School way. He has great screen presence, he's a very likable person (on and off screen), and he can do anything - from an ornery, manly hunk (X-Men) to a refined 19th Century Duke (Kate and Leopold) to a flamboyantly gay singer/songwriter (The Boy From Oz). His star power can even lead bad movies like Van Helsing to make over 100 million dollars. Hugh's got it all!

Janet Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 10:18 PM EST

Agree totally with Nathan on Orlando Bloom. I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out what all the excitement's about with him. Was thinking I'm just out of it. I could not believe he was suddenly getting this starring roles in big pictures. I read the New York Times article and agree - you don't have to do much to be a "star" in this star-famished culture right now. And I agree re Colin Farrell. Even his supporters don't even remember "Phone Booth" -- not sure that was the exact title -- didn't see it but I thought that led to "Minority Report" and the other one they forgot, "Daredevil", tho the latter was not exactly a hit.

belinda Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 07:59 PM EST

contemporary actors/actresses who i think will end up succeeding really well are: Rachel McAdams, Heath Ledger (now that he has a solid status), and umm.. wow i can't really OH and Natalie Portman. that's a really short list. unfortunately there are a lot of stars i like to read about but wouldn't spend good money on if they were in a bad movie.

consistently, i've been pulled into movies by stars such as the 3 listed above and i wouldn't care if the movie sucked if they had Usher in it. yes i know "in the mix" totally bombed but i still enjoyed it because of usher and emmanuelle chrique.

Lily Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 07:19 PM EST

Check your facts, EW, Colin Farrell was in a two hit movies! He had a co-starring role in Minority Report and a leading role in SWAT (the latter of which was a modest hit).

eric Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 07:04 PM EST

Well, Tom Cruise was in a lot of stuff before he became a STAR. He had to work his way there. Anyone remember his star turn opposite Shelly Long in Losin' It? Or Julia Roberts star turn opposite Justine Bateman in Satisfaction.

The problem today is that Hollywood decides who should be a star and then puts them in a movie bigger than they are. One hit movie does not a star make.

Danny Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 06:50 PM EST

Personally, I think stardom is overrated. The salary an actor makes for an indie is still more than many of us will make in a year. I'd rather see actors doing good work in interesting films; a single Kate Winslet or Zooey Deschanel performance is more memorable than Julia Roberts or Jennifer Aniston in all of their forgettable Hollywood romantic comedies.

nathan Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 06:40 PM EST

The reason people skip Bloom's movies is because although the guy is good looking, he doesn't have the quality of a leading man. He's a good costar (LOTR and Pirates) but not the main attraction (Kingdom of Heaven and the weak Elizabethtown)

matt Tue, Jan 3, 2006 at 06:30 PM EST

K, the article is good and all, but it'sjust a little too long.....no?


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