Larry gets a bad rap on Orange is the New Black. He’s annoying, fans say, the worst. True, Larry isn’t the most likable—he used Piper going to prison to get ahead in his work, he is incredibly self-absorbed, and, oh yeah, he had an affair with Piper’s best friend. Oof.
Though Jason Biggs’ portrayal doesn’t exactly always inspire sympathy, the real Larry—a writer named Larry Smith, who in real life is married to Orange Is the New Black author Piper Kerman—doesn’t seem to have hard feelings: The two recently got together for an interview in which Smith claimed he didn’t fart in bed with Piper (yeah, okay, Larry) and Biggs revealed what scenes make him uncomfortable, and how he prepares for them (hint: he doesn’t). Highlights from their chat: