ADAM: Yeah, judging from the reaction of the Twi-hards in my audience, I gathered that the battle — and all those brutal deaths! — wasn’t in the book. It definitely worked for me, though. First of all, it would indeed have been very disappointing if nothing had happened after the build-up of all those different vampires with their very specific special powers gathering together
on the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier in Prof. X’s mansion at the Cullen home. But the sequence itself had a lot more violent, vicious bite than I ever expected a Twilight movie to have, and I mean that as a compliment.
But I’m curious: I know you’re on record as not really finding the “twist” ending to be much of a “twist” given what Stephenie Meyer herself wrote in Breaking Dawn the novel. But did you like the battle? Did you think it necessary for the film to work? And did part of you wish it all had been real? Because I sure did.
DENISE: I actually really enjoyed the battle. And it was definitely necessary. I remember reading Breaking Dawn and thinking “How are they going to make this into a movie? Nothing happens. They just stand there and talk, while Bella’s invisible mind shield protects them.” I know that Meyer likens this to The Merchant of Venice, and how Portia talks a way out of Shylock’s “pound of flesh” sentence on Antonio, but no one’s in a courtroom here. You’re telling me that a giant group of werewolves and vampires with special powers aren’t going to fight? I honestly did feel a bit short-changed in how Meyer chose to end things. So this was a nice surprise — a way to include a fight scene while keeping the purists happy and without altering the fabric of the story.
That being said, I did not want it to be real. If Meyer had actually written a real battle where there were deaths, I would have been fine with that. But she didn’t. It ends with everyone except Irina alive, and changing it would have upset me. These characters were alive at the end of the book and I wanted them to be alive at the end of films, too.
Since you’ve only seen this movie, what did you think of Edward and Bella’s relationship? To be honest, in the movies, it never seemed as intense as it did in the books. Were you under the impression that she just wanted to be a vampire and that’s why she was with him? Or did you think she just wanted to be with him so she had to become a vampire?
ADAM: You know, it’s weird. After hearing so much about how the reason the Twilight movies were so popular with women is that it was all about the love story, it felt to me like the love story was a third-tier concern in Breaking Dawn — Part 2. Honestly, I felt a little bit cheated. Yeah, we got some PG-13 nookie in the first act, but after that, it became all about protecting Reneesmeememeeemee and discovering all the different vampires in the world. There’s that whole section where Bella drives off on her own, and never tells Edward about her plan to send their daughter off with Jacob — not exactly a good sign for healthy communication in their relationship. And when Edward nearly dies in the fake battle, I don’t recall any shots of Bella losing her mind over almost losing her beloved. Judging only from this movie, Bella definitely felt much more into her new vampire powers than into her new husband.
But now that I think about it, the movie did also begin with that ridiculously beautiful shot of Edward looking at his freshly be-vamped bride, and it did end with them canoodling in the meadow, reminiscing about their love story. And for all the tabloid heartache they’ve endured this year, I gotta say that Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson do have palpable chemistry — at least, it seemed that way to me.
Still, I dunno, I can’t say it made me all swoony. Were you?
DENISE: I always felt in the movies that she wasn’t as in to him as she should be. And I wish it was more clear that she loved him more than anything else. (Even with the “triangle,” Meyer presents Jacob as a “safe” alternative — someone it would be easy for Bella to be with. She could have her family, she could have a life without becoming a vampire. Yet she still chooses Edward because she’s so in love with him. Not because she gets to turn into Ms. Perfect Sparkly Vamp.) But then, I realize I’m a 28-year-old woman who has her own life to lead, and I just enjoy it.
You’re right about Pattinson and Stewart, though. They are hot together. No matter what — or whom — they do in real life.
ADAM: That all makes sense to me save the notion of Jacob as the “safe” alternative to Edward. No matter which “team” you play for, no one is safe when Jacob takes off that shirt.
DENISE: You’re right. She could cut herself on those chiseled abs.