Jon Stewart has officially accepted Bill O’Reilly’s challenge to come on The O’Reilly Factor and debate the White House’s decision to invite the rapper Common to Read the full post.
May 13
2011
02:25 PM ET
Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly to debate 'the Common situation' on Monday
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Kudos to Bill O for inviting Stewart at all. For all the nonsense he spouts, most other Fox pundits wouldn’t be so willing to debate someone intelligent and oppositional.
I’m no Einstein, but anyone who doesn’t understand that you don’t invite a rapper, who sings songs celebrating cop killing, to the White House during National Police Week is a certified moron.
Maybe that’s the way Community Organizers do it. Find out what group is celebrating and find a highly offensive archrival to bring in. Solid work.
Maybe the Great One can invite Al Qaeda to the 10th anniversary of 9/11.
Well that’s a little extreme. Let me guess, YOU knew it was Ntl. Police Week before this whole Common thing came up, didn’t ya?
Way to demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge of the kind of work Common actually does as well as the fact that you get absolutely ALL of your information from the right wing echo chamber.
“Nice try at appearing to be “the middle”, Esox. Sure, Jon and Bill both have brains, but while Jon makes an effort to be critical of all players (Republicans, Dems, media, etc.) Fox hosts only work at trying to sell a single agenda – all things Democrat are the devil. See how Fox supported Rio over Chicago for the Olympics. That was pure treason.”
Stewart “makes an effort.” Makes an effort? Really??? Oh OK throw a bone to us MORs about so n so Democrat owning up to smoking pot or having infidelities? That’s more of a token effort. (Or tokin’, take your pick). He’s much more apt to pull the Moron card on those politicians with a lean to the right. Two sides, same coin. Oh, what would you extremists ever do without the other side to throw stones at? Well maybe if you’d stop painting each other as enemies we could actually get something done in this country
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I thought you were supposed to be the reasonable one, here. I’m guessing you don’t actually watch his show based on your, simplified and inaccurate, interpretation of what he does. He almost never pulls out the “moron” card unless someone actually begs for it. Mostly, his brand of humor is showing hypocrisy in power. He finds footage of people in power saying one thing and then saying the exact opposite thing from a different time. He ABSOLUTELY does this to both sides. Ultimately, yes, the right tends to end up in those segments more than the left, but perhaps, and I know, in your “both sides are equal” argument you will reject this notion, but perhaps the right tends to be guilty of this more often than the left. Blasphemy, I know.
Yes. Blasphemy
Especially considering I could make the blasphemous generalization that most persons presenting the news or the faux news to us like Stewart are coming from the left, so OF COURSE there’s going to me more humor geared towards the right.
Have some Common sense (no pun intended).
The Fox News folks have always confused loudness with correctness – the ability to yell over your guests instead of listening as the winning point in the debate. Rudeness wins over content. If O’Reilly pulls his usual stunts, blocks out normal all use of civility as is the usual mode of operation of Fox, then Fox wins in their Koolaid drinkers, but Stewart, Colbert and the real news agencies get some great out takes. Win – the rest of the comedians, news shows and late night SNL and late night comedy.
You honestly think that if O’Reilly opened up his shows to anyone that people would come on and actually out-debate him? Naive, and really in love with your side, bro. I could say the same if Stewart were to do that also. BOTH ARE EXCELLENT BROADCASTERS. As hosts naturally they are going to have the advantage in any debate.
I’m not trying to sway anyone to my side. Republicans are brain dead morons[ALL REPUBLICANS?,that's a lot of brain dead people. Wouldn't we notice more zombies walking around? Oh and wouldnt you be in shock to find that some of you friends and co-workers were (horrors!) Republicans!!!] that rely on Fox News to tell them what to think, and the brainless (yet conniving) folks at Fox prey on their idiot viewers to make a buck. [If I'm following this correctly, it's the brainless leading the brain dead...couldn't the same be said about MSNBC? No? Why? Because it's YOUR OX AND YOU DON"T ALLOW IT TO BE GORED!"Gore"d," get it?] Hate Sells, and the conservatives are buying.[All conservatives? I genereally consider myself either a conservative Democrat or a liberal Republican…does that mean I’M buying? I don’t want any hate. Most of it’s been bought anyway by the extreme ends of our political spectrum.
Oh for the days of politicians who actually played to the middle like Bill Clinton and ronald Reagan!!!!
By the way, Common’s explosive support of cop killers? Simply songs he wrote supporting them as innocent. It’s quite possible his defense is misplaced. Bob Dylan committed a factual blunder when he called for the release of Hurricane Carter, whose story was greatly whitewashed by the Denzel movie. It doesn’t mean he loses all credibility.
Bill O’Reilly does have a brain but usually bitter old man conservative POV wins out. Fear, prejudice and paranoia rule the hearts and minds of right-wingers.
And who’s to say that not more dangerous than Hope, Openness and Naivety?
The truth is in the middle people!
Anyone who thinks that because Jon is a comedian that makes him an idiot…ask ANYONE who has been interviewed by him or (check youtube for this) watch the segment “60 Minutes” did on him and “The Daily Show”. FOX is letting Bill do this because if it was Beck, Hannity or any of the other FOX cronies…Stewart would let them have it! Bill and Jon actually like & respect each other.
Look, the truth is that the n e g r o s complain way too much about equality. Slaverly is not our fault, okay? And slavery, like the Holocaust, was blown WAY outta proportion. I’m not saying bad things didn’t happen. But white and Christians got persecuted too and still get oppressed. And having a Muslim President like Obama just is not appropriate in a nation founded by God, not Allah! Letting a known cop-killer like “Common” do his hardcore rap at a Whitehouse poetry event is just plain wrong.
Cool! I have someone pretending to me. Neat the way my admirer painted me as a reactionary. Kinda shows which side of the fence he’s on. Anyone that doesn’t agree with him is wrong.
Jon will win because his segment was about Fox news hypocritical stance on the subject. They take offense to the lyrics of Common but ignore the violent lyrics of Johnny Cash when he was at the Bush White House. Stewart also points out how Hannity recently claimed that he would find fault at violent comments directed to Obama, but showed how he laughed and excused the violent comments directed towards canidate Obama by Ted Nugent. Facts you can not dispute.
They forgot daddy Bush invited Easy E to the Whitehouse.
I wonder why the right and Fox News didn’t read the last part of lyrics where Common said we need to move on from such violence and do better?
@Essox
Saying O’reilly is unitelligent is an opinion, and thus, by nature, can be neither correct or incorrect. And contrary to your apparent beliefs, no one who you replied to claimed to be attempting to persuade you. We are here to stating our opinions, not to persuade you of anything. We’re also human beings discussing politics; it is moronic to think that we could possibly be anything but biased. And I’m not sure if you’ve ever seen Stewart off his shows, but his is notably more serious.
The evidence shows that Assata Shakur (Chesimard ) was wrongly convicted. The facts of the case are: She did not fire a gun at all and had no gun at all in her possession–the policeman who put those lies in his report admitted on the stand that he had lied in his police reports. That policeman, who had lied, had shot her in the stomach AFTER she raised her hands in surrender and then shot her again in the back as she turned to get away from his gunfire. The police had killed her husband and her husband had killed a policeman while he and the police were outside and in back of the car. She was inside and in the passenger side front seat. Based on this evidence, Assata Shackur was convicted by an all-white jury of being an accessory to a murder of a Cop and accessory to murder of her husband and minor charges. This just goes to show that you can convict any black person of anything if you can get a white jury to hate them enough. [Ed. Note: I am as white as a ghost, and am a lawyer, and have cops in my family, and I hate Cop Killers.] Only a moron would think that case was not a total miscarriage of justice. I have no beef with Common for saying that it was.
Where can that info be found? I’d like to know more about it.