'Lost' map: Explaining the Island. Sort of.

Lost-MapImage Credit: Jonah M. AdkinsWhile we may never fully uncover all the mysteries of Lost‘s island, we at least have this: a new and lovely map to show us where things are! Hurray. See? Now I get it! Everything finally makes sense.

Well, no, but it is still a cool map! Cartographer Jonah Adkins has been making maps for the government and the DOD for 11 years, and he used those same skills to plot the main features of the Island. “You start with an image/satellite photo, in this case an image of Rousseau’s map from a few seasons back,” he told EW in an e-mail. And then you extrapolate. “So much went into using the dialogue from the show to get geographic details,” he said, but of course, Lost had some chronic inconsistencies. “Sometimes it would take a group of people to get from point A to point B minutes on the show one time, then days the next time. Sometimes the camera shots would depict the water on different sides of a feature in the same scene.” And some key locations were just impossible to map. “I didn’t place Jacob’s cabin simply because most of the time it was shown, it was in a different place.”

Adkins says posters will be available soon, so maybe by the time the season 6 DVDs comes out, you can plot everyone’s travels with little pins or something. Not that anyone would ever…be so dorky…or obsessive… about anything…


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  • Madd

    I’m perfectly satisfied with the ending, and am fine without having the answers to the mysteries. That said, my husband and I are so obsessed that we’ll probably do the pin plotting anyway.

    • Madd

      Also, where is Doc Jensen’s Part 2 of the column?

      • Marten

        Yeah! Where’s the finale’s Totally Lost video!

      • teresa

        Yeah! Where is the Totally Lost finale video?????

      • G

        Yeah, he did a penultimate one, but no followup with commentary about the finale!! I’ve been checking back for weeks! Lost is still in our minds (and hearts), so please do one last Totally Lost video, Jeff!

      • Anna

        I totally agree, Madd. I was absolutaly sadisfied with the ending. Could not be happier. I miss Lost so much and cannot get it out of my mind! This will be a pretty cool poster. I am excited for the DVDs to come out! There will be 20 more minutes not seen on TV! WO WO!

      • EricO

        I read it weeks ago…where were you?

      • Rush

        It’s Lost.

    • Katja

      Same here, on all counts! Cannot wait to get my hands on a poster of this.

      • leah

        I think about the conclusion quite often, we got cheated.

    • JPX

      I thought the ending was perfect.

      • !

        it was!

    • Barry

      It’s over. Move on.

      • !

        and yet here you are posting a comment… shush

    • Damion

      Potentially one of the worst finales in history, as I cannot remember any other finale that rendered an ENTIRE SERIES a complete waste of time…*sigh* The disaster of those last 2.5 hours is unforgiveable.

      • Mike

        Im so sick of people saying the finale sucked. what sucked i want specific points. that was one of the most heartbreaking endings ever; to see characters we love moving on together was great. Accept it, darlton stuck to their guns and ended their show on their terms.

    • Reeves

      The first thing that stands out to me is the location of the Black Rock ship compared to the location of the 4-toed statue that Black Rock apparently destroyed as it was swept onto the island. It’s half-an-island away. Isn’t that a bit much?

  • Vince from NYC

    WOW.. This is pretty cool.. I’ve been waiting for somebody to do something like this..

  • Skip182

    I want.

    • amj

      Already ordered! Will look great on my wall. I collect maps actually and just couldn’t resist getting this cool find.

      • amj

        I’m putting it right next to my map of Narnia that my mom got 30+ years ago! Great find!

  • Ceballos

    I just spent 10 minutes staring at this thing…in other words, I miss this show.

    • Madd

      Seriously. I’ve watched that “I’ll Never Be Lost Again” video literally 100 times…and I’ll be honest, it makes me cry. I mean, they show clips of Charlie, Juliet, and Sun and Jin’s death! It shows Hurley crying!
      In the words of my sister, I should really “get over that Lost show”. BUT I CAN’T.

      • trifoi

        i’ve cried watching “never get lost again” a million times, too! it was very hard letting go.

  • Sarah

    so. freaking. cool.

  • Yes

    Yesterday my son was watching Sesame Street and Matthew Fox came on. I got so excited – then so sad…

  • dgh

    With the different times Sayid and Hurley went to Rousseaus’s cabin and Desmond and Charlie went to The Looking Glass they where so close to the Lighthouse plus I wonder if Rousseaus ever seen the lighthouse with it being so close to her camp?

    • Desmo

      I am pretty sure you could’t see the Lighthouse unless Jacob wanted you to, much like the heart of the island.

      • wino

        this is the part that irked me about the final season. these last minute “additions” were a bit contrived. very lazy on the part of the writers.

      • Desmo

        The show has always been about discovering the island and the landmarks on it. I would have been a little bit disappointed if that wasn’t a part of the last season. Either way the Lighthouse was only a part of one episode and as such this “last minute addition” didn’t bother me too much.

    • Rush

      Key line in that episode: “I guess we weren’t looking for it.”

  • Me, too Ceballos…

    me too. I still cry when I watch the finale.

    • Madd

      ME THREE.

  • Rion

    The finale was a cop-out that made the entire series a waste of time. I hope Lost is burning in TV hell right now.

    • David

      OMG! I completely agree… The finale ruined 6 years of television in 10 minutes time.

      • Amen to that!

        I couldn’t agree more. I’m still depressed with how I wasted 6 years of my life being utterly devoted to a show and the writers copped out. I always watched the show for the mysteries. I was being realistic. I didn’t want the finale to solve all the mysteries just some of them. And for the record, I didn’t care about the sideways universe. I’m so disappointed that that was the writers big surprise.

      • Hurley

        Lol, I love how people claim nothing was answered. We know what the whispers are, we know what the numbes are, we know what the smoke monster is, we know who got off the island. To claim that nothing was answered is intentionally ignorant and it sounds like you never watched the show. The only remaining “question” that people have that’s actually valid is about Walt and his abilities (which personally I don’t care about). To complain that nothing was answered is a logic fail.

      • Desmo

        Sarcasm? Seriously anyone who thinks six years of television can be changed in ten minutes just doesn’t get it.

    • Skip182

      Hello trolls. You need to look up what the term cop-out is. Here’s the definition: someone who has never watched a single episode of the show that trolls message boards with complaints, which be their very lack of any details or knowledge shows that they’ve never seen the show. Wait, no, that’s not a cop-out, that’s just your pathetic past-times.

      • wino

        ummm, hello over devoted fan. you do realize you can be a fan and still have been disappointed by the finale, right….right?

      • Skip182

        I understand that, yes, however the comments I responded too had nothing to do with upset fans. They are trolls. Or idiots. Anyone who thinks 10 minutes can ruin 6 seasons of a show with 120+ episodes is either intentionally obtuse, or has an ulterier motive for the statements. Now, if there were to make a comment stating specifically why they were letdown, that’s another story.

      • Krys

        I am let down because:1.The characters did not get proper resolutions. Pairing them with a partner like Noah’s Ark & sending them into the happy light is not resolution. It’s a one size-fits all ending which is not fair to unique characters with individual stories (they never resolved Sawyer needing to make peace with his past, Kate’s struggle to find good in herself, Locke’s lost faith etc)2. The whole sideways story was a pointless cheesy ending because the writer’s didn’t have the guts to have a dark edgy end.It had NOTHING to do with the story we have seen for years and could be tacked on to ANY story. 3.The answers they provided after 5 years of waiting were simple & stupid “I know what the whispers are!” and It’s all magic is a cop-out.4.They left too many loose ends that when you really look back renders the entire story incomprehensible. I didn’t expect them to answer everything, but I did expect them to answer the major threads without us having to do the guesswork for the writers it’s their job afterall. That is why it ruined the whole show. I won’t be able to watch knowing the characters won’t get proper resolutions and that most of the cool mysteries will never be brought up again.

      • Growler

        Krys,
        I posted an alternate ending on Page 137 of Jeff’s final recap (well the Part 2 recap of the finale). Check it out if you want!It offered, at least to me, some island resolution and sought to clarify Desmond’s motivations.

    • Madd

      I get that a lot of people hated it, I do. Maybe it’s because I’m such a sap, but the entire finale I kept thinking about how I wished all of the characters could somehow have a happy ending.

      • JesseDaGreat

        but alas there were no massage parlors to be found on the island….oh well

    • ChiefWannaDubie

      The Chief says the ending = big big letdown. Sideways = being r*ped by White Man.

    • teresa

      No. You are both wrong. The finale was what it was. You didn’t write it so you have to accept it.

      • teresa

        and I loved it.

  • econruth

    I was a total fan. I kept hoping for Season 6 to get better ..hoping.. Thought maybe the finale will stop my growing disappointment, but it didn’t. I read this article and all I could think of was.. it doesn’t matter, because it never mattered. All the plot twists, all the cool easter eggs, all the wondering about “what it all means”… I’ll never know what it means because the producers took the easy way out… and I should be OK with it, like some of you are, but I’m not.

    • Tuzo

      I feel your pain. I don’t agree with you totally…I liked season 6 and I can appreciate that the journey is maybe just as important as the destination and I thought the finale was emotional and entertaining. But those last 10 minutes — I can forget they ever happened. I thought that sideways world should have been explained earlier (or course, given the “ending” I guess it couldn’t have). With sideways world in limbo it lowered the stakes of the island story since we didn’t know how they related together. Most of the drama of the finale was in the sideways world awakenings while the island story lacked tension since we didn’t even know if it mattered! I wanted to feel like the two stories were converging together towards something. For me, this isn’t about Walt or any of the other little mysteries but more about story arc and a satisfying denoument. (I would have also settled for a mind blowing ending.)

      • econruth

        Thanks Tuzo! I appreciate your opinion and you actually made my point better than I could. I’m not refusing to accept the answers that were given, but felt that the sideways world (and the MIB/Jacob “Mom liked you best” feud) made the previous 5 seasons irrelevant. Fans deserved better…

      • Hurley

        That makes no sense. Did the sideways world negate everything that happened before? Nope. So for you to claim that it makes everything irrelevant has no standing as an argument. The only thing that would make your conclussion logical is if the sideways world somehow erased everything that had happened, or had said it was a dream. Since this isn’t what happened, your feelings don’t make any sense. And to say “Fans deserved better” is a misnomer, seeing as how a great many fans loved it. You didn’t, and you somehow think you were cheated, but that’s too bad for you.

      • wino

        yeah Tuzo, i feel your pain. there was too much focus on the sideways world and by trying to trick viewers into thinking both worlds were “happening”, “real”, it made me feel disconnected from what was really happening on the island. thus when jin and sun died, i didnt feel much as i thought they were alive in the other timeline/world.

      • wino

        and to Hurley, how can you say someone’s OPINION doesnt make sense? we arent discussing facts here, just our views/feelings of a show. jeez, im big fan but some folks are way too defensive about this freakin show. relax.

      • Skip182

        Because their OPINION doesn’t fit the FACTS that they are ignoring. An opinion is always based on facts, so for you to somehow claim they are not linked is ignorant.

      • wino

        what so called facts is Tuzo ignoring? if you read his/her comment, it clearly explains why the sideways world/ending was a letdown. i think a lot of fans feel the island action should have been placed on the forefront…he/she is not the only one.

      • Skip182

        @Wino: I was responding to the econtruth about the previous 5 seasons being negated. That is what ignores facts. Tuzo actually had an argument (which I don’t agree with, but at least it had an analysis that’s understandable, and not just “cop-out blahblah”) to support his opinion, so I have no problem with that (other than his conclusion.

      • Matt P.

        I don’t understand some people’s reaction. After they revealed that everything that happened on the island really happened, didn’t that cause you to think back to all the deaths that occurred during the last season? Yeah, at the time, I was confused, too. Not sure if the sideways timeline was going to replace or negate the current one… But now, armed with knowledge, doesn’t that change the way you feel NOW about what happened? It did for me. And realizing everyone we’d been watching in the sideways all year were dead… didn’t that make you feel a little sad, even though they moved on to something apparently better? It was bittersweet… poetic, and beautiful. If you can’t appreciate that, I pity you.

    • Lost815

      You’re confused by “what it all means” because they didn’t give you an answer? The answer was very clearly given. You may not like the answer, you may even pretend it wasn’t given (which you’re clearly doing), but that doesn’t change the fact it was given. You can b**** and moan all you want, but it’s not going to change this fact.

      • hedge

        Thank you!

      • @Jace

        Since “the” answer was “very clearly given,” can you please enlighten those of us who somehow missed it. Thanks!

      • Not @Jace

        (I hit “enter” by accident. My comment is directed at Lost185…) :)

      • Desmo

        What all what means? Care to be any more vague?

      • Skip182

        If I may answer this: The answer to the sideways world was that the events on the island were the most important things that ever happened to those people, so when they died, they found eachother in limbo so that they could all pass into the afterlife together. The answer to the island world is that a few characters made it off the island on the ajira flight, while Hurley and Ben stayed on the island until they eventually died. As for answers to individual questions, they answered the whispers, numbers, how lock was paralyzed, who got off the island, what the Dharma Initiative was, who Adam and Eve were, who Jacob was, why Richard never aged, and in the Epolgue on the DVDs they will be answering SPOILER ALERT the food drops and the Hurley bird, a little about Walt, and probably more (and I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting right now, but my point is made). All of the major questions were answered. I’m sorry if you still wonder about Kate’s horse or Shannon’s inhaler, but those aren’t important. If you refuse to except the answers that were given, that is your own choice, but it makes you look foolish when you claim they weren’t answered.

      • Lost815

        Thanks Skip, you saved me some typing :)

      • Mike

        And ironically we did get the Shannon’s inhaler answer! LOL

      • econruth

        I don’t care about the f**ing hurley bird or an inhaler. Here’s what I care about – we were introduced to three new characters in the last season (and yes, I’m including Jacob because obviously whoever Ben thought was Jacob wasn’t him or was him…see what I mean) which nicely tied up Adam and Eve (which I also don’t care about) and involved one of the worst episodes of the entire show. They should have spent all the time that was wasted on the fight between two brothers (ooohhhh that’s original!) on something – anything – else. Why did the island need protecting???? Because of yellow light? A life force? A cop-out because the writer’s just wanted it to end? When you go back to Lostpedia – none of it matters! None of the lovingly chronicled details make a difference because it all boiled down to what happened – happened and then they all went to heaven.
        I loved this show! I’m glad it had a happy ending, I’m glad that the characters were all reunited. And I have no desire to go back and watch any of the episodes again.

      • Skip182

        So wait, let me get this straight: You’re happy it had a happy ending. You wish “Across the Sea” was replaced with something, but you have absolutely zero idea what would have been better other than “anything” which is very creative of you. You’re angry that Lost had a lot of detail that meant nothing…because? What makes them mean nothing? You’re mistaking having excellent detail and backstory and continuity with some grand unfinished scheme. As you clearly ignored everything I said in the previous post, you seemed to have also ignored everything the show ever was. I’m sorry you are left unsatisfied, but in the words of a great Lost character, “what about you?” In other words, you didn’t like it? Tough.

      • Liz

        Lost815 and Skip:
        I don’t care about Kate’s horse or Shannon’s inhaler, the only answer I wanted (and waited for for 6 years) was WHAT WAS THE GODDAMN ISLAND???????? Was it alive or have its own consciousness? Was it the Garden of Eden? What was its purpose? Why did it need protecting from a guardian? If it had all these powers why couldn’t it protect itself? After 6 years, I thought that 10 minutes of Jacob saying “oh yeah, there’s this light and if it goes out everyone dies” was a total cop-out. Why can’t you understand that to a lot of fans, the island itself was the main character and we got no flashback about the island itself (and don’t even try to mention Across the Sea as some sort of big reveal) and NO explanation about what it was, where it came from, how it was found in the first place, nothing. Just “the island was the most important thing in these people’s lives. The end”. Well, that’s no big surprise! They crash landed on an mystery island with polar bears and smoke monsters and hatches and time travel. Yeah, I’d say that’d be the most important event in my life too. Look, this would be like if after 6 years of Mulder looking for his sister on X-Files, they all of a sudden did a 180 and “revealed” that she was never kidnapped by aliens, there are no aliens, she actually died and what Mulder saw was her going into the light. Oh, and by the way, Mulder’s dead too in a rest stop on the way to heaven and now he’s going to “move on”. Throw in that chick from the Ghost Whisperer and you’ve got the finale. Such…a…letdown.

      • wino

        to Liz….yeah, it bugged me that the big hyped up “reveal” episode was nothing but a filler. who was jacob and mib’s “adoptive” mom? where did she come from? how old is the island? something, anything that told us what the island is/was would have been added some closure to the storyline.

      • Skip182

        Oh, so you wanted the mitichlorian answer from the Star Wars prequil? Or you wanted an Architect moment from the Matrix Reloaded? Lost never gave answers in a checklist format like you’re demanding, and thank god for that. Life doesn’t give you answers to everything, so why would you think Lost would? Your “unanswered question” is another fans “are you kidding? who cares?” question. You’re right, I can’t understand why you and others pretend the island was the main character. Why can’t you understand that there was only ONE episode that had to do purley with the island backstory. ONE. And people HATED that episode. Yet every other episode dealt with the characters. For you to somehow delude yourself into ignoring this fact is interesting in a sad sort of way. Btw, “Mulder’s dead in a rest stop” completely misrepresents what the sideways world was, but thank you for proving exactly why you need answers spelled out for you.

      • Liz

        Skip182: 1. You don’t have to be juvenile and insulting to someone just because they have a different opinion than you. I could play that game too but I’m an adult. Grow up. 2. I don’t have a “checklist” of questions I want answered, as I clearly stated I only wanted more of a conclusion about what the island was or what it represented. And no, I don’t want the mitichlorian or the Architect answer. Both Star Wars (with Obi Wan on the Millenium Falcon) and Matrix (with Morpheus in the leather chair) gave excellent explanations in their first movies for what the Force and the Matrix were. The first Matrix didn’t explain every detail about how the first human escaped their battery pod, but I still left the theater satisfied because enough background was given that I understood the stakes of the fight. 3. Across the Sea was NOT “purely the island backstory”, that episode dealt exclusively with Jacob and MIB’s backstory because apparently we had to be spoon fed the fact that they were brothers and they were mad at each other. It didn’t really tell us anything at all about the island except that there was a golden light in the middle of it. 3. You’re right that every episode dealt with the characters, and yet what else was in every episode driving the characters? THE ISLAND. When the show first premiered, the promos ran with the tagline “What is the Island?” And then the scary music. They made the show about the island from the very beginning, so I don’t think it’s asking too much for them to answer the very first question they asked the audience. 4. My point with the Mulder analogy was that, just like Lost, X-Files began with a delicate balance between science and faith. Mulder was the man of science, Scully was the woman of faith. Sound familiar? Lost also did a great job treading the fine line between the two and I wish that they had found a way to balance the ending more between science and faith the way they did the entire series. I enjoyed Lost as a series and don’t think that just because the ending was disappointing (to me) it negates the rest of the show. This was an amazing series and I will be watching the whole thing over again when it comes out in August. I know that a lot of people really loved the ending. I respect that, I just fall into the other group. The last segment almost seemed like a different show to me. It was a nice, happy ending but it just didn’t ring true for me. After six years of throwing in concepts of time travel and quantum physics and electromagnetic energy and all sorts of ridiculously complicated sciencey gobbleygook along with the concepts of spirituality, of destiny, of having faith and believing that you’re here for a reason, it went completely into the deep end spiritually and made it all about passing into the afterlife. Like I said, I just wish they had balanced it a little more. That would have been more satisfying for me, but in the end, this wasn’t my story. Darlton told it the way they wanted and “what happened, happened”. :)

      • Krys

        @Skip182 I hate that people keep saying we have to wait for the DVD’s to get answers. If the only way for the story to make sense is to have the writers explain after the fact then they failed in their story telling. And it’s really funny how you bring up the mitichlorian thing since Darlton brought that example up again and again. Clearly, they brainwashed their fans and prepped them with talking points before the finale to render those of us with valid complaints silent so the sheep can say Darlton told us so! I’m sorry, but the writer’s created these mysteries in the first place. George Lucas never made the force a mystery. We knew from the beginning it was all the force and it was his mistake to try to explain it. Lost has it backwards. It was never about it all being one force or magic. It was an intricate story that needed intricate answers. The writers wrote themselves into a corner and like cowards, rather than man up and try to provide answers, they said to hell with it and did the “It’s all magic! Stop asking questions because that will only lead to more questions! Look it’s about the characters! See how happy they are dead!” It’s BS. For example, why would Sun and Jin be happy to realize they are dead knowing they left their child orphaned? Star Wars was never about mysteries. Lost was. Big difference.

      • EWwww

        dead is dead. whatever happened happened. “the sideways” is NOT REAL despite what Christian said. I hope when I die I don’t have to hangout with a bunch of a-holes that took a plane ride with me.

      • @Liz

        Originally, Mulder was a believer/”man of faith”, Scully was a skeptic/”woman of science” I think they changed that dynamic in the later seasons, but I stopped watching… because just like season six of LOST it sucked. SNAP

      • Liz

        Haha, I had to go back and look at my post, you’re totally right. I wrote it backwards with Mulder and Scully. You’re also right that the later seasons were terrible, I worded it very carefully that X-Files “began” with the balance between science and faith. It veered into something completely different by the end…kind of like Lost!

      • Growler

        Oh man am I lovin this! It just sorta goes to my point though stated in other blogs:
        Well, is it good — or bad — that the ending of “Lost” is so polarizing? I think it’s bad (quite bad, in fact), but everyone’s entitled to their opinion! :)

      • Lisa Simpson

        “Lost” is an allegory. If you don’t understand allegories, then you’re not going to get “Lost”. It was always a show about redemption and man’s dual nature. The Light was the life force (which is a very ancient concept) that was neither good nor evil. The Island protected the Source from the outside, and the outside from the Source. Jacob unleased a negative part of the Source when he tossed MiB into the cave. Unable to fix his problem, he and Smokey basically entered into a game where they tested the true nature of mankind, whether it was good or evil. Jacob also knew that someday he would need to find someone to take his place, so various people were brought to the Island, including our Losties. Whether the Island was sentient or not harkens back to old questions about what it means to be alive and have consciousness. That question, like the question over Fate versus Free Will, can never really be answered.

      • Krys

        @Lisa Simpson,”That question, like the question over Fate versus Free Will, can never really be answered.”
        Except they did try to answer it. Jack had a destiny i.e. no free will. They also answered the religious debate. There is an afterlife in their story. They should not have attempted to answer these philosophical questions that have no definite answers. What they should have attempted to answer were the questions they created themselves. I don’t buy that Lost was entirely an allegory. Some of it was but not all of it. This show was only about Jack’s redemption. Kate became all about Jack which is offensive to think that her becoming all about a man is what redeemed her. She became about Jack’s nephew, Jack’s sister, she killed the monster which also had something to do with saving Jack. When was she redeemed? They never truly resolved that she killed her father. Kate never spoke of it directly. That’s not fair. Just as it’s not fair that Sawyer never spoke about how he killed an innocent man or the real Sawyer. If they ignored most of the story for the sake of allegory than I would rather have character resolutions than allegory. But if they had been such brilliant writers they should have been able to do both. And the answers DO matter. They were a main component of the story. One question that bugs me is how the numbers had the power to bring Rousseau’s team to the island and bring bad luck to Hurley if they were just the numbers of the candidates. You can’t slap some condescending statement like it doesn’t matter, you don’t get it, it’s all allegory. Than why bother with all the little mysteries and string us along just to pull that little trick? Either they didn’t know how to end it or they manipulated their audience into think these answers mattered when they didn’t. All the answers I am seeing from people are basically fanwank, it’s fanfiction. I could come up with my own answers but it was not my job to do so, it was the writers who were paid very well to do so.

      • Lisa Simpson

        Actually it is part of your job as the audience or reader to use your brain to participate in the story and figure things out. That’s part of the draw of fiction. And just because “Lost” is an allegory, doesn’t mean that the characters and their stories don’t matter. You seem confused on that point.

        Fate V. Free Will – Jack still had to choose his destiny. He could easily have left the Island with Kate and Sawyer, but he chose to stay and fix the Light. It traverses the fine line between Fate and Free Will which I find much more intriguing than a flat answer would have.

        Kate’s redemption – It may seem minor to you, but giving up a child that she has raised to go find and bring back his real mother is Kate’s redemption. It is not insignificant. And redemption always has to do with some sort of sacrifice.

        The Numbers – The numbers corresponded with the last six candidates, which embued them with special significance and special powers. The Island or the Source knew who the last six would be, and drew those people to it with the numbers. Rousseau’s team was drawn by the radio transmission and Jacob, not necessarily the numbers.

      • Krys

        I’m not confused but thank you for the rude implication. I know it’s our job to interpret the themes and symbols of any story but it is not our job to write it. Your answer to the numbers is your interpretation, not anything that was stated in the show. How do you know the island/source knew who the candidates would be? Did the island/source or Jacob say so? How do you know the island or source is a capable of thought? Why should the audience have to interpret things that should be direct answers. I am more than happy to debate the meanings of the philosophical questions but I am not happy to have to come up with answers for questions that the writer’s made up.
        How do you know Jack chose his destiny? Maybe it was predestined that he would make that choice? The problem with this is Jack never spoke about how he made his choice, he just did and we are left to assume why. Just like we have to assume everything about these characters. My problem with Kate’s redemption is that they never tied it to her original story about killing her father which was her main arc. This could have been resolved if Kate spoke a few words explaining this. Why were these characters never allowed to speak for themselves? It’s so simple. This is all ridiculous. I expect to be given a complete story and then debate the meaning of it. But this show is incomplete in a way where we actually have to write it for them. We have to say what the answers are, we have to say what the characters motivations are, we basically have to do everything. What kind of story is that? I have a brain and I am willing to use it to understand the significance of a story but I shouldn’t have to do most of the work. That doesn’t make me stupid it just means that Lost was not my story to tell. We read books and watch shows to be told a story. That’s why I hate fanfiction, I can never except others interpretation of a story as canon.

      • Lisa Simpson

        Jeez, Krys, maybe you should try something simpler. Yes, they are my interpretations, based on what I’ve seen in the show. It’s called actively participating in the process. It’s what you learn when you are taught to read. You go beyond the words, beyond what is overtly stated. I hate to be rude, but if you can’t do that then you aren’t going to appreciate anything other than the most basic storytelling.

      • Krys

        Ok I will be rude now. You obviously are too stupid to get my point. I am willing to participate in the story. I am willing to interpret the meaning of said story. I am not willing to write it for the writers. There is a difference between interpreting the meaning of symbol, themes, and allegories and getting answers to specific questions. What happened to Annie and what was up with Walt and Aaron or not the kinds of questions that should be left open to debate. They are open threads that the story needed to resolve. They are part of the PLOT which is different from the ALLEGORY. The two can interconnect but they must also both be well defined in the story on their own. Do you get it now?

      • Matt P.

        Wow, krys, you’ve watched how many years of the show and you are really going to try to tell me that the writers weren’t good? What show were you watching? Sorry, but as far as things like Annie and Walt and what-not… if they really were that important to the story of Lost, they would have been included. You are mistaking what you care about in the story for what the story is actually about. Welcome to a life of never being satisfied.

      • Krys

        “if they really were that important to the story of Lost, they would have been included”
        But it was included in the story MattP. Otherwise I wouldn’t have mentioned it. It was in the story and then they dropped for no apparent reason. And what kind of Lost fan doesn’t care about what the writers wrote in the show? The things I care about are actual events that happened in the show. Why don’t you care about them since those mysteries are a huge part of what made Lost? So Annie and Walt weren’t important? Then why write it in the first place? Basically you’re saying most of the unanswered questions and therefore most of the story we’ve seen wasn’t important then. Why? Because Darlton said so? They were too lazy to figure out how to resolve them so they told us it didn’t matter (which you ate up). I am not so easily fooled. They started it, they should have finished it. Otherwise, they shouldn’t have written it in the first place.

      • Lisa Simpson

        Krys, some people give more importance to a character than it merits. Case in point is Annie. She was a minor charcter, in one episode. She was there as a constrast to Ben’s father. That’s all. She wasn’t any more important than that. Walt was one of the characters that showed the audience that the Island had special powers. He grew up and left. End of story. Frankly, if the writers had wanted to do more with him then he needed to grow up into a better actor.

        Plot points were answered, but not always in a “this is what happened” way. Some viewers just obsessed over certain minor things more than they merited.

      • Krys

        Annie was an example.

  • ligas

    Why didn’t Entertainment Weekly recap this week’s Persons Unknown episode??!!??

  • Maddi

    I love this map! Although I’m pretty sure the Island is bigger than this.

    • Skip182

      And I’m pretty sure the statue isn’t only 5 miles from the beach camp.

      • Maddi

        And if the submarine had exploded that far offshore, they never would have been able to swim back. Oh well.

      • Pope Carmelita I

        And the Orchid should be next to the Statue, as we saw in the final time jump in “LaFleur…

  • LostKev

    Well, I haven’t read EVERY single posting about S06 so pardon me if I repeat someone else. What I don’t get is this: Let’s assume Hurley and Ben lived nice long lives, possibly even hundreds of years. Let’s assume those that left the island (Kate, Sawyer, etc.) lived normal lives and perhaps died in their 70s or 80s. When all our beloved characters died, their souls converged in this afterlife purgatory kind of place to relive a life that should have/could have been had they not crashed on the island. But if they couldn’t start becoming aware of each other and their “real” lives until they all arrived, that means people like Charlie and Jin and Sun and others were waiting for (I assume) Hurley and Ben a LONG time (even though time had no meaning there . . . I guess). So did they relive their “lives” over and over again while waiting? Did this purgatory world begin as of the Oceanic flight (from the time the plane should have crashed but didn’t because of, uh, well, hmmm)? I guess I simply don’t get it really.

    • Madd

      The only real explanation to that was when Christian Shephard said that time didn’t exist there.

    • Skip182

      No. Christian said very clearly “time has no meaning here” (the sideways world, not the island) which meant that it all happened for them instantly. Whether they died on the island, or off of it 50 years later, whenever they died they went to the sideways world. There was no time delay.

    • Desmo

      It’s an alternate universe removed from our conception of time. A basic principle of quantum mechanics.

  • samsldy

    Love the map and I have just the place for it.

    To all the season 6 haters, I get it, you didn’t like the ending of the show. I happened to like it and would just once like to read comments without having to see how much you all thought it was a waste of time. Get over it!

    • Yes

      It was a great show, all the way around. I thought the ending was great, but if it wasn’t doesn’t mean the whole show was worthless. I watched St. Elsewhere and thought the ending was awful (I was in high school too at the time) but that doesn’t mean the show was worthless. Lost on a bad day was 10 times better than most shows.

      • teresa

        I totally agree with you!! Lost is 100 times better than any of the Real Housewives shows or the Bachelorette or V or Fringe or Heroes or ….

      • teresa

        I loved St. Elsewhere but do not remember the ending at all. I remember a patient getting squished in a bed and I remember the yummy Mark Harmon But I will ALWAYS remember the ending to Lost.

    • Krys

      Oh boohoo if it bothers you so much stay off the message boards. Why do we have to shutup so you can enjoy yourself. Lost failed for so many and we should not retreat into a corner just because you say so. Lost, like any other story will be criticized both negatively and positively. You don’t see the upset people telling the happy people to get over the show. It’s wonderful that you loved the ending, good for you. But can you imagine watching it for 6 years and hating the finale? You would have felt awful. (Unless of course you are the type of fan that would have eaten anything Darlton fed you). I bet you would have been heartbroken. It kills me that I now hate a show I once loved and spent so much time on forums talking about. Excuse me if I can’t get over just yet. But I will, believe me. New shows will come, hopefully with writers who can tie up their story well.

      • samsldy

        Humm, I don’t see the upset people telling the happy people to get over it on the message boards? You just did.

      • Krys

        No I didn’t. I don’t expect either side to get over the show yet. I was saying why are people telling me to get over it when they aren’t over it. I call that hypocrisy.

      • Matt P.

        Krys… look back at a TV show or series of novels you have read and see if you can name me one of them that you felt had a satisfying ending… I’m sorry but I have you pegged as a person who is impossible to please. Prove me wrong.

      • Krys

        There has never been a perfect finale. But Lost disappointed me so much from the sheer lack of effort at resolving itself that it ruined the show for me. For example, BSG didn’t not provide answers that I liked but I appreciated the effort and feel the character’s stories ended perfectly so I look back at the show with love. I really loved the Angel finale. I feel it was powerful and was true to the dark nature of the show. The death scene of Wesley was one of the most powerful scenes I have seen. And the final scene in the alley was bada** I think it’s important to not treat the death of characters cheaply. When Jack Bristow died on Alias I was sobbing. Lost removed the impact of Jack’s death by having the scene before it showing him happy happy in “purgatory”. I think the Harry Potter ending was very well done (not perfect but satisfying).Even a teen show like Dawson’s Creek did a good job with their finale with the Jen and Jack storyline. Buffy is my favorite show of all time and the final episode was not the best but not so bad that it negated everything before it. I really enjoyed the final Spike and Buffy scene and all the characters got a moment to shine no just the main character. I have many favorite shows and book series in my library that had satisfying endings that I reread and rewatch to this day. Even if I didn’t love all of the finales I appreciated the good character resolutions and the attempt to wrap everything up. Lost failed on all counts to me.

      • Krys

        Forgot to add the Jason Bourne trilogy. Those movies just got better and better. If I think of more I’ll get back to you :D I’m actually not that hard to please. I often find myself defending stuff even if its stupid because I was entertained you know guilty pleasures and whatnot. Even though I prefer entertainment that challenges me intellectually. I even would defend the dumbest episodes of Lost because I though one day it would all mean something. That is why I am surprised at myself and more angry for the fact that I loathed the finale so freaking much.

  • Henry

    Can we blow up this image? Could it be included in the Lost Encyclopedia that is to be released the same day as the season six DVDs?

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