'Survivor: Heroes vs Villians': Ousted Villain calls his vote flip the dumbest move in 'Survivor' history

Well, that was really stupid. That was the first thought that went through my mind as well as the minds of about 11 million other people when Tyson Apostol nonsensically changed his vote at Tribal Council, thereby ensuring his own departure after Russell passed off his hidden immunity idol to Parvati. What was he thinking? Why did he do it? The lanky wisecracker reveals all — right here, right now. (Check back tomorrow for an interview with ousted Hero James Clement.)

Let me ask you point blank: Where does your vote flip rank on the list of dumbest Survivor moves ever?
I would hope number one. I’ve been number one in so many things, I don’t want to lose it now.

I don’t think it’s quite number one, I think it’s still…
Erik Reichenbach?

I don’t even know his last name. I just know it starts with an R and ends in “bach” so Reichenbach is pretty good. Is that right? Is that his real name?

It is, actually. Well done. But I think he’s just edging you out on the moron meter.
I don’t know. He knew immediately… Well, he should have known immediately, but he probably didn’t. But I really thought… Well, once I did it I got pretty nervous and then I was like, “I still got a good chance at this.” And then when Russell panicked and ran around in a circle and gave the idol to Parvati, I was like, “Oh my God, I cannot believe this is happening.”

Explain to me what the hell you were thinking. I put my theory in the recap as to why you may have done it.
What was your theory?

That you were trying to buy a little good will with Russell so that down the line you could keep him as a possible back pocket option for an alliance.
That’s exactly what it was. I wanted him as a plan B. But I knew that we would be too strong if he had other allies in the game. So I wanted Parvati gone. That way Russell would have nowhere to go but to me. And I knew he had the idol, which I wanted for my own evil bidding. The difference between Russell’s game-plan and what I would do is that I would stab somebody in the back, but I would do it so gently that they actually liked me for it, while Russell would come in with a sickle. And once he was done chopping the person in the back, he would cut them into little pieces. And then I don’t know what he would do with them, but he would make it super painful. And that, I think, is a very faulty way to play the game in that you’re not gonna win anybody’s vote. I was kind of hoping that Russell would stick around, but out of nowhere else to go, he would have to come to me.

But couldn’t you have just kept your vote on Russell, gotten rid of Parvati on the re-vote, and he’s gonna still have to come to you anyway because he’s out of options?
Well, yeah. I wasn’t switching for him. I was switching because I wanted Parvati gone. And I thought she was the most dangerous. I didn’t know if there was going to be a tribe switch or a merge. I knew that she knew some people on the other side.

Did you tell anyone you were flipping your vote?
No. I didn’t tell a single soul. I didn’t tell anyone. I pretty much decided at the pulpit — that’s a pretty good word, pulpit.

Sure. Nice one.
Did you write that down?

I’m taping this, Tyson. I’ll transcribe it later.
Okay, good. I appreciate that.

Absolutely. I do what I can.
So I was sitting there and was, like, Russell, Danielle and Parvati know that we are splitting the votes 3-3. They all know this. So if Danielle and Parvati have half a brain in their head, they’re gonna vote for Russell, saving themselves. But I would prefer Parvati to go home before Russell and because I am the god of Survivor and can choose when anybody goes out, I thought I may as well send Parvati home for sure by switching my vote. That’s mostly what I was thinking.

You guys sensed that Russell or Parvati might be using the idol. Did the thought ever come up to vote for Danielle instead?
Yes, it actually did. Once we had laid all the plans and told everybody what were doing, it did occur to us to just get four people and vote out Danielle, because it would be unsuspected and there wouldn’t be any need for any super-strategic stuff going on. It could have been done easily.

But there are risks involved in that as well, if Russell gives her the idol.
Yeah, there are risks everywhere except if I had just stuck to the plan that we had come up with. The only thing that would have kept me in the game is to not have taken the risk when I didn’t have to, which I didn’t have to, but I still did. But you know, had it worked out the way I had it worked out in my mind, it would have made me look like a genius. I would have been a badass. But it didn’t work out. I’m still a badass, but people don’t know it.

I think you went from badass to just plain bad.
That’s true.

You said you knew Russell had the idol. Is that because Coach told everyone?
Coach told me, and I told everyone else. Plus, there were trenches all over the camp around every tree. Russell would be like “Uh, I’m gonna take a dump and I’m gonna take this shovel with me.” And then he’d be gone for hours. I just assumed he wasn’t getting enough fiber.

Couldn’t he have just said “I’m going to do an interview”?
Yeah, he did that too. He’d say “I’m going to do an interview,” and we’d say “Yeah, an interview with the idol.”

Of course the thing you did that really set me off was when you advised Coach to stop telling his absurd stories and wearing feathers in his hair? Why, Tyson, why?
You know, he was, like, “Why do people think I’m a big joke?” And me, being the tender hearted soul that I am, I went, okay, he’s never heard it from somebody that’s close to him. And he needs to know. So I felt like I was doing him a huge favor. But I know, as a viewer, that that was probably the wrong move because we love Coach stories. We love feathers in the hair. I love all that stuff too, Dalton. Don’t get me wrong — I love it. But he wants to know why people are laughing at him, and the easiest thing to do was to tell him the truth.

Behavior like that will never get you promoted to Assistant Coach, my friend.
Promoted? I’ve been Assistant Coach. I was appointed Assistant Coach about a year ago!

But does that carry over to new seasons or do you have to start from scratch and work your way back up?
Are you kidding me? I had made it to coaching Coach! Doesn’t that make me above a coach? What’s above a coach — a general manager?

Well, you didn’t win Heroes vs Villains, but I did honor @tysonapostol recently as the best Survivor tweeter.  That’s much better than a million dollars, right?
That was pretty good. You know, when you did that, I got 700 new followers in a day. I think you’re more powerful on Twitter than Ashton Kutcher.

Yeah, not so sure about that. Plus, I’m not married to Demi Moore, so he’s got me there.
Oh, you got him there. I guess we view Demi Moore differently.

To enjoy an exclusive deleted scene from last night’s episode, plus special pep talks that Tyson and James recorded for themselves before the game, check out the video player below. And for all the Survivor scoop sent right to you, follow me on Twitter @EWDaltonRoss.

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  • Shawn Ames

    TTTT, these guys all look like dorks.

  • Nik

    Does anyone know if you can get tickets to the live finale?

    • Ruthie

      I don’t think you can sorry:(but you could try to look on the Survivor web-site they may mention something about it:)

  • stevex

    Tyson is an arrogant azz, but he IS pretty funny.

    • James

      Most hilarious survivor ever.

      • CP

        Super funny! Super dumb, but very clever with words!

      • Ruthie

        I agree!!!!

      • BrandonK

        “I guess we view Demi Moore differently.” LMAO!

      • JC

        “Russell would be like “Uh, I’m gonna take a dump and I’m gonna take this shovel with me.” And then he’d be gone for hours. I just assumed he wasn’t getting enough fiber.”

        Bahahahahahah, wished we could have gotten more Tyson interviews!

      • Sean W

        Yeah, this season has been awesome in most ways, but disappointing in its lack of Tyson and Courtney interviews. We all know they aren’t necessarily the best players (although I personally think Tyson had great potential). But both Tyson and Courtney are hugely entertaining for their commentary. If they’re not going to show any of it, why even bother bringing them back?

  • Tracyann

    Probst says they are for contestant family members only.

  • Daniel

    They auction a couple of tickts right after the live reunion show for a week or so. They also include backstage passes and you get to meet the contestants but they cost lots of money. Maybe on Ebay.

  • Kathy

    Still a thing of snarky beauty. I’ll miss you, bb!

  • Daniel

    Well, this goes to all the boneheads claiming that he got paid for voting for Parvati.

  • dusen

    His math makes no sense to me…
    He thought Parv and Danielle would vote Russell – so he switched his vote to Parv. Meaning ultimately (starting from a 3-3-3 baseline) if everything went how he planned it, Parv would get 4 votes, Russell 4 votes, and Tyson 1?

    If he had just kept his vote to Rusell, it would have been Parv 3, Russell 5, and Tyson 1.

    Assuming Russell would play the idol, Parv would be going home in either scenario…still don’t get what he thought the benefit of switching his vote to Parv was.

    • Qtpii

      I totally agree. Boneheaded move for sure. and I don’t like Tyson.

    • wiseone

      You forgot the part where Tyson believed Russell was going to vote for Parvati out of self preservation.
      Parv 5, Russ 4, Tyson nada.
      Stupid of him, though. Either he did too much thinking or not enough. I vote the latter.

      • Frank Marshall

        Hmmm…this is the first time his vote has made sense to me. I mean, it didn’t turn out the way he wanted it to, but maybe that’s just because he was giving Russell, Parvati, and Danielle too much credit. The girls probably should have voted for Russell. Tyson said that he changed his vote while he was standing in the pulpit, so there was no way for them to know that this would work out for them. On the other hand, this could all be the result of a VERY cleverly planted Russell seed, in which case…wow, kudos man. But seeing it from Tyson’s point of view, I can’t say that this was any dumber than any other player who has trusted someone when they shouldn’t. It was a bold move that failed. Life goes on.

  • lee

    tyson is hilarious! wish he would’ve stayed longer even after he makes such a stupid mistake you don’t think he’s a bad player I don’t know why but had this mistake been done by anyone else i’d be like dumbass! but with tyson i guess its his way with words i just let it slide :P

    • CE

      I loved at his sign-off when he said he’s still awesome. And he is, because he doesn’t take it soooo seriously. Russell and Rob are so darn serious they’re going to burst a vein. At least Tyson’s having a laugh. Dumb move, but great entertainment.

      • Chris57

        I agree, in retrospect, and after reading the above interview. He’s actually very witty. But at the end of last night’s show, when he said he’s still awesome, my first reaction was, No, you’re an idiot. Oh well, maybe it’s better to take a risk and lose in a way that will always be remembered than to do what everyone expects and just be part of the background.

  • Pamishere

    I love Tyson. I always have since his season with Coach. His witty one-liners are awesome.

    BUT seriously, whyyyyy make such a bold move that didn’t even pay off? Sigh.

  • JasonHomey

    I went from thinking Russell is doing one of the dumbest moves ever to thinking Russell is the luckiest SOB ever. And Tyson still doesn’t hold a candle to Eriks move. That is an all timer.

    • Ian

      James move was easily the dumbest mistake ever. 2 idols in his pocket on the LAST NIGHT he can play them??? At least Erik thought he might be saving his ass. James must have though he was saving 2 souvenirs. They were worthless after that tribal and he didn’t use them.

      • Daul

        Incorrect, there were still 2 or 3 mopre tribals that James could use his idols at. He had probably one week of vulnerability, but he should have had confidnce in his ability to win at least one immunity challenge, so it was still a real bone-headed play.

      • Daul

        I suck cox.

      • D

        Ian is incorrect. James had 2 HIIs with 3 TCs in which to play them.

      • Daul

        To the jerk who pretends to be other people, you’re lucky to be anonymous. To the web site managers, why aren’t you blocking the emails from these jerks from ever posting again? To allow this troll to switch identites and post vulgar comments is ridiculous.

      • Daul


  • Melinda

    Tyson dissed Demi Moore – dude is a badass.

    • Shelley

      Um…No. Tyson gave props to Ashton for being married to Demi. Dalton dissed Demi. (say that three times)

      • jon

        Really? I thought it was the other way around

      • davey

        No. Dalton dissed Demi – not Tyson!

      • Ian

        Might want to reread it Davey.

        DALTON: “I’m not married to Demi Moore, so he’s got me there.”

        TYSON: “Oh, you got him there. I guess we view Demi Moore differently.”

      • Carol

        Um, no, TYSON dissed Demi. Go back and read it, dude.

      • Nancy

        Shelley and Carol: Are you both dyslecic?

      • Ian

        Nancy, are you dyslexic? Carol has it right.

      • Flaming Moe

        Dalton’s questions are in bold and Tyson’s responses are not. Easy to translate. Tyson no likey Demi

      • Pamela

        HOLY CRAP… who cares who dissed who… Tyson was an idiot to make that move… I think it should rank as the STUPIDEST move ever in Survivor History!

      • suzieq

        Tyson, sweetie… come out of the closet.

      • b

        suzieq – demi moore is a ugly cougar, not unlike yourself I’m sure.

    • Nancy

      Re-read the interview item as pasted below. The first comment was from Dalton. The second comment was from Tyson.

      Yeah, not so sure about that. Plus, I’m not married to Demi Moore, so he’s got me there.
      Oh, you got him there. I guess we view Demi Moore differently.

      • Nancy

        I love the cox.

      • another fan

        Exactly Tyson dissed Demi not Dalton.

      • J

        This is officially the stupidest argument I’ve ever seen on this site.

  • jon

    Tyson shouldn’t bother coming back a third time. He got blindsided twice and only survived to the middle of the whole game twice. Game over dude…

  • Jack M

    Tyson is probably cooler off camera than he is on camera.

  • lemonsherry

    “But you know, had it worked out the way I had it worked out in my mind, it would have made me look like a genius.”

    Uh, no it wouldnt. You’d still look like the idiot you are.

    • Daul

      unfortunately, agreed. All it would have done is make his alliance lack trust in him. Thats a sure way to be on the outside of the numbers.

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