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Mar 13
2010
02:00 AM ET
'Caprica' Recap: My brain hurts so good
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A great recap *and* great comments by fans. Both enhance my appreciation and understanding of the show.
I haven’t had time to dabble with it yet but I couldn’t help noticing how pronounced the SKU # on the computer bar code behind them (on a garbage dumpster?) was when Joe Adama and Tad were talking before they went into V-world. The number is 79062 18830. Am I looking too deeply for something in it or might it unlock some extra info at a Caprica webpage etc.?
Mark in FL just lost all of his credibility by stating that LOST is a disaster this season. Besides the just maybe ok (but still entertaining) WHAT KATE DOES, every episode has been made of full win. Please, stick to commenting about the (far inferior) Caprica and steer clear of LOST.
LOL! Aimless wanderings, random actions, incoherent characters: all part of the tapesty that is the final season of Lost. I told you guys you wouldn’t like what I had to say about Lost this season. So I think my credibility is pretty secure.
Personally, I suspect the Lost brain trust originally wanted to go the reboot route in this final season but TPTB at ABC balked and this mish-mash is the best compromise they could devise. I’m still willing to be convinced otherwise because Lost was brilliant until this season but they have a long way to go and short time to get there (they’re eastbound, just watch that Bandit run… excuse me, I digress). I just have a really bad feeling about Lost…
Except for the fact that this season is arguably the best season yet and pretty much the most critically acclaimed yet except for maybe season 1. Seems like the majority of people who watch LOST completely disagree with you.
Just because you say something is a “fact” does not make it so. There are plenty of people despairing over this last season of Lost (on the ew.com message boards, for example). There is a big difference between “believing” and “wanting to believe”. A lot of people, including Doc Jensen, want to believe so badly that they’ve lost objectivity. Later, those are the same people who will be complaining the loudest and longest about being duped. However, they did it to themselves because it is pretty obvious this season of Lost is (so far) not up to its previous standards. Lost should have learned the lesson from BSG’s final season. You answer sooner rather than later the big “broad brush” questions that drive the story and set the aims for the season (who are the final 5, do they get to Earth, etc.) and then you’re free to provide answers to the details as you go along up until the end (who or what is Starbuck and her destiny, what does the Opera House vision mean, etc.). I’m willing to be convinced otherwise. You tell me. What is the overall objective of our characters on Lost this season: to get off the island, to get back to the island (sideways stories), to save the island, to reset the time line, to destroy the island? Personally, I have no earthly idea. And, quite frankly, I’m sick and tired of theories and guessing. What is the frakkin’ point of the Lost characters doing what they are doing so far this season: because Jacob and MIB told them to? Why? It is the equivalent of characters doing something “because it’s in the script”. It indicates an absence of internal logic in the storytelling. So Richard came on the Black Rock and was touched by Jacob resulting in long life (answers character details about Richard). What is the point of all of this (the aims remain illusive)? Doubly so, if you ask me, because they’ve introduced a whole new set of questions (on top of hundreds of others) with the sideways flashes (or whatever they are). If this season of Lost is not salvaged in some manner, and we’re quickly approaching the “it’s going to take a miracle” threshold because episodes are running out fast, there will be a LOT of angry fans.
And this is all guesswork by an angry fan that doesn’t like where the show is going. They obviously didn’t want to do a complete reboot like you suggest because that would have negated all of the storylines in the past.
Especially the ones that took place in 2007 on the island near the end of season 5 with the MIB, Ilana and Ben. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
And what do you mean you don’t know what the purpose of season 6 and what the characters are trying to accomplish? Every season has a main objective:
SEASON 1 – Survive, open the hatch.
SEASON 2- Push the button.
SEASON 3- Defeat the Others.
SEASON 4- Escape the island, deal with freighter people.
SEASON 5-Get back to the island, Jughead.
SEASON 6- Discover their destinies, resolve timelines.
The preceding list is obviously a gross simplification of each season, but you get the gist. And they HAVE answered a ton of mysteries in just the first 7 hours of this season:
What the Numbers are. Who/what is the Monster (more to come on the Monster, obviously). Why weren’t the main characters on Jacob’s lists in earlier seasons. What is the Sickness.
Basically, season 6 is amazing. And the only thing I’m unsure of is how the ALT timeline is going to tie in with the original. But that is going to be revealed in the series finale.
It is not the writers of LOST’s fault that some people are not smart enough or not patient enough. Go watch CSI.
Totally.
I love this show, I love Eric Stolz as Daniel, I love Esai Morales as Adama but he’s not getting much brighter now is he?
The cast sometimes outweighs the writing but it’s still better than 90 percent of the shows on today, I just hope it lasts. It could become the “Mad Men” of the Syfy channel, even though they’re trying to sell it as the ‘Sex in the City’ of Syfy. What’s with the posters? A 16 year old topless holding an apple?
I think the posters are supposed to be an allusion to Eve eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. I imagine it’s also a ploy to use sex-appeal to attract viewers.
“In a very strange way, Caprica (and BSG before it, although maybe we didn’t recognize it at the time) is bridging a fascinating gap between faith and reason; it seems to be suggesting that divinity has an internal science, and that science is the method for touching God.”
I think you’re onto something here.
“It seems to be suggesting that divinity has an internal science, and that science is the method for touching God.”” It’s called deism, the “God as watchmaker” theory of the universe. If we learn how the watch works, then we understand God. However, in the context of the BSG story, it is complete bunk because God is an interventionalist, see Baltar, Six and Starbuck.
And dude, for someone who says season 6 of LOST sucks, I find it pretty funny that it seems like you herald BSG as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Season 4.5 of BSG was one of the worst things I have ever seen (besides the Gaeta/Zarek uprising episodes).
I sincerely apologize for bursting your bubble about this season of Lost. But I gave fair warning to everyone on this board you would not like what I had to say. Just forget about it and move on.
I like how you say that what I saw about LOST is not fact, but then turn around and state your opinion on how LOST is not as good as previous is fact.
Way to be a hypocrite.
Jacob cut the stalking and harassment. Its off topic.
“It seems to be suggesting that divinity has an internal science, and that science is the method for touching God.”
That exactly describes the motivation behind the great scientists like Newton who pulled the world out of darkness and into modernity.
This show, while holding my interest, fail by comparision to BSG. Where are the OMG moments that were around every corner in BSG? Step it up and stop the pyschobabble. Frak Amanda.
Why has no one mentioned the Music? Bear says that his music is a charactor (sp)in and of itself. The music during the end of the episode-in front of Starbucks Apartment building-you could hear the undertones of Season four (BSG) season.
Just one more tie in
I believe this is a moment that will play into future episodes.
Did you notice how Zoe stopped referring to her dad as dad and calls him Daniel. I’m thinking avatar Zoe is losing a bit of her connection with her human life or maybe she’s still pissed after the whole arm ripping incident!
I noticed that too, remenisant of Stargate SG1 and the episode where Daniel spends more and more time in “the box” he starts forgetting who he is. I think the samething is happening to Zoe. I think the arm thing has something to do with it as well.
Regarding your insight that by using generative algorithms, you are “designing a pattern by which everything makes itself,” you are pretty much spot-on. There are some extraordinarily complex systems that emerge out of relatively simple interactions on a fine scale. Altering even a few parameters (or initial conditions, if you like) can have profound effects as the system evolves in time. Controls worked into an algorithm can keep things from getting out of hand, however. So, one can have a variety of trees, no two of which are identical, but all of them are still trees (and not horses, for instance).
A fairly accessible example of how simple rules can give rise to extraordinary complexity can be found if you search for “cellular automata.” In particular, the work of Stephen Wolfram is among the best documented online.
Why hasn’t anyone commented on the reason why Zoe wants to go outside? she’s trying to escape to the other planet not just learn more about the world. She’s not thinking of making better robots, she’s thinking about finishing her original plan of getting to the other planet. I forgot the name.
Geminon
Well, its clear what she’s trying to do, but to manipulate Philomon under the guise of helping him with his work on the robot. Thats rather overt and doesn’t require any analysis.
I felt like the episode wandered for the entire hour! Just as it does every week. With all these characters the writers seem to have one main story idea that they are dragging out ad infinitum. I loved BSG, but this series seems to be a way to capitalize on the previous series’ popularity with fanboys and throw in some gaming freaks as well. Dullsville!
How many frakkin episodes has it taken Adama to get into New Caprica City to find Tamara??? Ugh.
Tamara only ended up in New Cap City in the previous episode, and that’s the same episode where Adama found out she was in the v-world. So it took Adama a grand total of one episode to go to New Cap City to find her. That’s not fast enough for you?
Sorry, it actually took him two episodes. Still, that’s not exactly a long time.