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Mar 10 2010 08:45 AM ET

'American Idol' Exclusive!: Ellen and Simon are friendly, Ellen and Portia even friendlier on the scene at Top 8 girls night

Idol-Ellen-Simon_320.jpg Hello, Idoloonies! Normally, I would be coming to you live from inside the American Idol studio in a week’s time, when the Top 12 contestants enter the gaping maw that is the Idoldome and my colleague-in-snark Whitney Pastorek and I soak in the behind-the-scenery for your unceasing bemusement. And we still plan to do that, along with our newest Idol correspondent, the intrepid Mr. John Young. But this year, EW is getting an exclusive chance to sit in on the final week of the Idol semis, when the stage is much smaller, the audience sits in the round, and Cory the Warm Up Comic delivers an opening routine that is exactly the same as every single other opening routine he’s ever done on the show since at least I started covering it four years ago.

Another difference: Unlike the Top 12 shows, I am not technically sitting in the audience — those precious seats are reserved strictly for family, friends, and squealing co-eds. So instead I’m sitting in a backstage phalanx of seats roughly 20 feet to the left of the judges’ table, reserved for guests who don’t want to be on camera and staff who work on the show. From my vantage point, I could clearly see all four judges and about 75 percent of the stage, as well as the general to-and-fro of the crew and the backstage stairs leading up to the Coke Room of Ryan’s Awkward Interviews. I could not, however, see the Top 8 guys at all, nor the Coke Balcony of Contestants’ Awkward Standing itself.

I did, though, give the stage a good inspection about 45 minutes before the show was due to start. Like every other TV set ever, it looks markedly different in real life. The Coke Balustrade of General Awkwardness sits at far more of an angle to the stage than I’d thought. The band pit, meanwhile, is much larger than the often flimsy semi-final song arrangements would suggest. And while on TV the stage seems like it’s pretty much totally enclosed, there is a giant gap between Simon’s left shoulder and the right wall of the Coke Portico of Overdone Running Gags. That gap is where the cameras live, of course, but it also meant that the entire set felt more porous and casual than the behemoth Idoldome, with its traditional proscenium. The semi-final stage lives in the same soundstage at CBS Television City (Stage 36) that the Idoldome eventually will occupy, but takes up about a third of the space, and all the extra room significantly softened the tension. In the Idoldome, you feel like you’re watching a national television obsession. In the semi-finals’ Idolcupola, you feel like you’re watching the local news.

Well, that is, if the local news had Simon Cowell and Ellen DeGeneres as anchors, which is about as far as I can reasonably bury the lead here: No, despite what you may have read, I detected zero frostiness between Idol‘s two most famous judges last night. Of course, despite what you may have inferred from Ellen’s nuzzling of Simon at the opening of the show, they didn’t act like the bestest of buddies off-camera, either. Ellen and Simon were, quite simply, professionally friendly with each other, which is about as much as one could ask of fellow judges in their first weeks together on a top rated reality competition program.

But I’m getting a bit ahead of myself now. Let’s start from the top: After my aforementioned once over of the Idolcupola, I took to my seat, which happened to be directly behind the seat reserved for Idol vocal coach extraordinaire Debra Byrd. As the minutes to air ticked down on the monitor in front of us, I watched Katelyn Epperly, Lilly Scott, and Didi Benami bound up the stairs behind the Coke Veranda, each of them in heels that I wouldn’t feel comfortable walking at a brisk clip in. (Lilly’s shoes looked especially wobbly to me; the woman must have ankles of steel.) The band and crew began to trickle in as the overhead music blared “Bad Romance” and “Boom Boom Pow,” and with 13 minutes to air, the fog machine began pumping grey mist into the studio as Cory began the umpteenth iteration of his I’m-seriously-beginning-to-wonder-if-he’s-just-a-wind-up-robot warm up routine.

With ten minutes to go, Ryan and Kara sauntered into the studio, Ryan greeting the when-exactly-did-she-start-making-the-most-sense judge with a rather wandering hand. (Seriously, when did Kara DioGuardi become good? When did I start nodding along with her? When. Did. That. Happen? With Paula gone, my snark demon Smirkelstiltskin has been counting on Kara for sustenance, and for weeks now the poor horned imp has had to turn to old YouTube clips of Paula to sustain him.) Seven minutes to air: Cory welcomed the Top 8 guys, and then Kara strode up to the stage, snatched Cory’s mic, and said to the crowd of literally dozens of people, “Are you guys psyched?!?” Kara then began to agitate for Randy to show himself: “Where’s Randy? Can anybody say Rannnn-dy?! Rannn-dy! Rannn-dy! Randy, get your a– up here!” Randy didn’t take the bait, but Smirkelstiltskin sure felt sated.

Five minutes to air: Randy finally showed up, followed two minutes later by Ellen and her wife, Portia de Rossi; Cory, who managed to get his mic back from Kara, introduced the two judges. Two minutes to air, and Ryan took to the stage. The backstage area became such a swirl of people at that point that I somehow missed Simon’s entrance, but I definitely didn’t miss Ellen crawling onto Simon’s lap during the opening credit sequence. Alas, it wasn’t until about 20 minutes later that I realized Portia was sitting two rows behind me, so I have no idea what she thought of Ellen’s shenanigans.

Katie Stevens sang “Breakaway,” sounding just as flat in the room as she did on TV, but there were still audible gasps around me when Simon said that she “kind of sucked…the energy out of [the song] a little bit.” As they would for much of the night, Kara and Simon chatted over Ryan’s delivery of Katie’s call in number. At the ad break, as they would for almost the entire night, Ellen and Portia gravitated to each other like magnets or some other less clichéd simile, and the two talked while sipping bottled water. They also — well, how to put this politely? Let’s just say that Ellen and Portia are what some people would term affectionate with each other, and others would term handsy. It was adorable.

While Siobhan sang “The House of the Rising Sun,” Debbie the Stage Manager positioned Paige Davis Lacey Brown right next to the judges table, to best position her to get to her mark while Ryan gave out Siobhan’s numbers. Annie Potts Lacey stood right next to Simon, directly in eyeshot, for a good two minutes. And yet, after Ryan had finished with Siobhan’s numbers, Simon and Kara still got up to leave, thinking they were going to an ad break, only to quickly jump back into their seats when they finally realized that Nikki McKibbin Lacey was seconds away from singing.

When the ad break finally did come, all the judges scattered, Simon swiftly walking past saying to seemingly no one in particular, “Chop chop, baby!” Kara walked the other direction, saying to someone in a head-set, “I literally lost where I was on that girl.” Ellen and Portia…talked, and the crew wheeled out Katelyn Epperly’s keyboard. Randy strolled by the backstage seats, and said to no one in particular, “Party crew!” Simon returned with his fiancé Mezhgan Hussainy, and Debbie the Stage Manager began gushing to Simon about his appearance with his betrothed the night before on The Tonight Show: “I’ve never seen you so sweet!” Nearby, Kara chatted up Ellen and Portia, and all this schmoozing meant no one was exactly paying attention to the countdown. The judges had to race back into their seats as the show came back to air.

Katelyn bricked “I Feel the Earth Move,” and at the ad break, Ellen intercepted her for what appeared to be a serious pep talk, ending in a lovely hug. Didi Benami chilled on stage with her guitar, and this time all the judges were back in their seats with 30 seconds to spare. After Didi delivered a lovely take on “Rhiannon,” she walked by the backstage seats, and vocal coach Debra Byrd rushed up to congratulate her, a welcome distraction from Paige Miles’s unfortunate rendition of “Smile.” It was at this point that I realized just how far apart the judges are from the contestants when they get their critique; on TV, it looks like maybe five feet, but it’s at least double that, and when the news is as bleak as it was for Paige, I’m sure it felt even farther.

At the ad break, Simon stalked out of the soundstage with his arms folded the entire time. Ellen intercepted Paige for another pep talk, but this time Idol‘s backstage film crew — which had been busy capturing everyone’s post performance interviews by the backstage stairs leading up to the Coke Belvedere – swooped in to record this iconic exchange for posterity. This time, it ended in smiles, no hugs.

Crystal Bowersox killed with “Give Me One Reason,” so much so that I’d like to think it was the reason Ellen stayed in her seat for the first time at the ad break. Debbie took to the loudspeaker to order all the ladies “to the railing” of the Coke Crow’s Nest. Lilly Scott and her titanium ankles bopped around the stage with her mandolin, and I was intrigued to note just how intensely Kara was staring at the clear-haired contestant. The show came back from its final ad break, and Lilly sang “I Fall To Pieces,” sounding far better in the room than she did coming out of your TV speakers. As the performance recaps played on the big screen, Katelyn practically mauled Lilly with a bear hug, and then all the ladies turned to watch their pre-recorded dress rehearsal performances. (There’s a reason you can’t make out any of the judges in those clips.)

And with that, the show was over. Kara delivered some high fives to the audience, while Randy, Ellen, Simon, and Ryan all quickly went their separate ways. As I walked out of the studio, I realized just how close we are to the true start of Idol season 9: The massive rafters and steel set pieces that make up Idoldome were neatly stacked two stories high throughout the parking lot directly behind Stage 36, patiently awaiting their assembly.

I’ll return tomorrow with a recap of the Top 8 boys night, but until then, dear readers, does this behind-the-scenes scuttlebutt satisfy your curiosity about Ellen and Simon’s relationship? (Or is that even possible?) What else would you like to know about the semi-final experience? And, for realsies, how in the name of Paula Abdul did Kara become the most consistently thoughtful and constructive judge on the show?

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  • Mike

    Siobhan Magnus was great, but how come nobody noticed or mentioned that she messed up the words to “House of the Rising Sun.”?

    She sang ‘My FATHER was a taylor. She sewed my new bluejeans’ instead of ‘My MOTHER was a taylor She sewed my new bluejeans’……

    • Alison

      I think that may have been intentional, since she was dedicating the song to her father.

    • SmittyTV

      Maybe she meant to do that since she dedicated the song to her FATHER saying he used to sing it when she was young.

    • Chris

      Maybe she mixed it with the “original” (pre-Animals” version, where “My Father” was a tailor, and “My Mother” was a hooker, which makes a lot more sense in the context of the “house of the rising sun.”

      • Mike

        “Father just does not go along with….’….She sewed my new bluejeans’.(which she sang). If she intentionally changed it to ‘Father’ the rest of the line should have agreed.

    • Maureen

      It’s tailor, not taylor

    • Heather

      She was singing in dedication to her father and switched the words intentionally. How did you not get that?

      • AD

        Heather, how can YOU not get that if it was a dedication to her father, then she should have said “HE sewed by new blujeans”. Don’t act so condescending when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • mike

        You people sure have a lot of time on your hands.

    • JP

      Did she also sing “It’s been the ruin of many a poor BOY”?

    • Ella

      Honestly, who cares? She sounded great and that what matters.

    • luvmichaeljohns

      and this matters why?

    • Brett

      Maybe her father is a transexual, hence the eff-up in pronouns.

    • pmet

      I went back and relistened to the song yet again. She absolutely sings “My Mother was a tailor”

    • Zach

      MOTHER you asses

  • Elizabeth

    Smirkelstiltskin!!! Oh how I’ve missed you!

    • Aly

      Ditto! I kept wondering what Smirkelstiltskin thought of this new season without Paula!

    • wg

      Yup, very happy for the return of Adam and Smirkelstiltskin – been waiting for them! LOL But ugh at the thought of more upcoming Whitney blatherings in between Adam’s actually interesting reports.

    • lucyb

      me. too. Adam is the best!

  • Grammar Nazi

    “In the Idoldome, you feel like your watching a national television obsession. In the semi-finals’ Idolcupola, you feel like your watching the local news.”

    Adam, please learn the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re.” Thanks.

    • Sad Panda

      Agreed. Your incorrect use of “your” twice in a row has put Sad Panda on suicide watch.

    • Brigid

      I was just going to request that this be fixed. I think the confusion of your/you’re and their/there/they’re irritates me even more than people misspelling or mispronouncing my name.

      • anonymous

        As someone who can sympathize with Adam because I occasionally mix up their/they’re in writing…it has nothing to do with confusion, I know exactly what the difference is. For some reason there is just a disconnect in my brain when I’m thinking quickly and I have to catch it in the proofread. You are probably right that too many people do NOT know the difference, but some people are just quirky. It bugs me to see armchair grammarians judge based on a single sentence.

      • lala989

        agree with anonymous. WHO CARES PEOPLE! I was copy editor for a high school yearbook, and honestly I’m not starting a nazi beef with something so silly as an on-set review of a tv show.

      • @all

        I agree that if you’re going to make a living writing you should make proper use of the language. I also get ticked at the misuse of less and fewer, irregardless instead of regardless and on and on.

      • Bunny47

        Agreed. Although the topic might be considered silly, there is no excuse for a paid writer to make errors like that. Every time an article is published with grammatical errors or errors in punctuation, I cringe for the future. Have some pride in yourself and your ideas and present them in a correct and concise manner.

      • Afaluko

        It is in allowing for mediocrity in writing that messes up the proper writing for the younger generation. Imagine the number of young people that would read this article and believe that this would be the norm.

      • lucyb

        Maybe Adam has to put this up SO fast to satisfy everyone that he sometimes makes a mistake–this is the internet for god’s sake. Garmmar patrol–get a grip!!!

      • mike

        You spelled your own name wrong. It should be Bridgit.

  • Domi

    I could care less if Ellen and Simon like each other. The bottom line is: Ellen is horrible on IDOL! Stop the antics and the gimmicks. Ellen needs to go. I wish we could vote Ellen off!!

    • Roy

      Ellen is a great addition to the show. Paula is not missed one bit (Oh, and since we’re all correcting grammar, I think you meant COULDN’T care less).

      • madeleine

        um, Roy get a grip. If you were from NYC you would know that the expression is, “I could care less”. It just is. An idiom is not subject to midwest grammar. Thank you very much.

      • anonymous

        I agree Madeleine, that idioms are not subject to grammar. HOWEVER, Roy is correct. Idioms still have to make sense & I COULD care less simply does not.

      • i should care less

        i’m pretty sure the idiom is known throughout the nation and it is in fact “i couldn’t care less”

      • Slick

        Right. Because that Bugs Bunny type accent they speak in NYC is so authoritative.

      • Nanci

        Interesting… I think all this talk of grammar shows how dull this season is.

      • boycott ellen

        in what universe is ellen a “great” addition to the show… she does realize there are other ways to critique someone than to use the word “great” doesn’t she?

        i fell out when i read that not only did she sign a 5 year deal, (AI what were you THINKING..oh right, you weren’t) but that she actually has a say as to who will replace simon next year … the HORROR!!!

      • @madeleine

        Then you’re a NYC idiot. English is subject to proper grammar. Saying you could care less means at this point you care about Ellen and Simon when you in fact you don’t care about them at all. It’s not an idiom it’s just incorrect English.

      • luvmichaeljohns

        I agree couldn’t miss Paula any less.

      • Angelo Barovier

        If you’re going to use NYC — which is more often pronounced as en-why-cee — then your first sentence should read: Then you’re an NYC idiot. Of course, this depends on how your usage differs from others but most folks I know would say it as I mentioned were they to speak your comment aloud. Fo’ realz, yo!

    • Colin

      Aggree shes horrible

    • April

      they don’t like each other that way… she’s a lesbian. I think she’s wonderful. Not Paula, she agreed too much and was too nice.

    • Brenda

      Some people say I could care less and some people say I couldn’t care less. Yes, proper english is to say I couldn’t care less, but who really cares. I thought we were talking about American Idol! Ellen is great on the show! I think all the judges are great and Ellen gives insightful feedback, even though she doesn’t have a background in music. However, I think Randy Jackson is being a bit hard to please this season. He is always saying “I didn’t get it” and “It didn’t work for me”! I still love the show though and I love Ellen on it!

    • Legs

      Can we vote Domi off, too?
      I like Ellen. She’s cool, and doesn’t get off on tearing people up, rather, she’s honest in telling them what she thinks. It’s just each persons opinion, and that’s ALL. Nothing to get hung up about. Take a deep breath…….

  • Ryan

    Whoohoo! been waiting for this…behind the scenes is the best. I wonder how Siobhon sounded in studio?

  • Metron

    Ellen is horrible? On the contrary, I think Ellen is just what this show needs. I love her on the show, and her so-called “antics” aren’t nearly as over-the-top as some of the shenanigans that have been going on with the other judges and Ryan/Simon in particular. Ellen is actually funny, and gives good commentary.

    • Jenny

      I completely agree…As far as I’m concerned, Ellen is the best thing that’s happened to AI, next to Paula leaving. For one thing, she’s hilarious. I think it’s also clear that she’s knowledgeable about music, and her critiques are logical and helpful. I love her!

      • cookiegirl

        yeah but all she has to say on her comments all the time was her favorite word: “great”. lol

  • Yes, Adam

    Please wake up and fix!

  • Janizzle

    Gosh that was hard to read…I can’t stand when writers want to compete in the vocabulary Olympics instead of simply telling their story.

    • Salome Arsinoe

      I agree. That was hard to read.

  • dorothywishon

    I can’t stand Ellen, Saw her on Think you can Dance as a judge and quit watching it, I bet Simon can’t wait to leave the show and get away from those dorks! Kara included, she is hanging on to Simon, before it was Randy, she sure changed her tune about Casey when her husband got in on the act, she is trying to fill Paula’s shoes won’t happen.

    • Legs

      Paula has shoes?????????????

  • Bali

    I have to laugh that the best Kara and Ellen can do, is to hang on Simon on a pathetic attempt to be like Paula. They never respected her on the show but they sure want to be just like her. To bad she was a naturally charming person and they both just suck!

    • Leigh

      Well now, let’s be totally truthful here…

      Paula’s charm on AI wasn’t all “natural”, as it was clearly “enhanced” on many occasions.

    • Jenny

      I guess I’m not sure where Paula was charming, natural or not. Her obvious lack of sobriety was hard to watch, and most of her input was pointless for the contestants.

      • Angelo Barovier

        Like I could stand to watch Idol sober (before season 8, anyway). Screw that. Let’s toss another one back.

    • Legs

      Bali, how long have you known Kara and Ellen?

  • palimey

    Ellen adds nothing to the show.

    Say good night Paige and Katie

  • Leigh

    Ellen is a great addition to AI.

    She’s funny when it’s appropriate, has a truthful critique when necessary, and from this report, her own show, and other comments, she is also very compassionate towards those who don’t make it or are given the “bad news” after their performance.

    I agree, Ellen is just what this show needs.

  • flicketyflack

    “As the performance recaps played on the big screen, Katelyn practically mauled Lilly with a bear hug,”

    Awwwww! I love stuff like that.

    Nice recap and thanks for the scoop on what went down during the ad breaks.

  • sonja

    I’m glad to hear that Ellen has taken over the role of nuturer for the contestants. It’s good to know that someone is there with a positive word, and a hug after for the contestants, after they’ve been dragged through the mud on national television.

    • Legs

      YES! I give the contestants credit too, because they stand up there, gracious, and thankful, showing a bit of class (unlike some of these bloggers), after being critiqued.

  • DC

    “Seriously, when did Kara DioGuardi become good?” I TOTALLY AGREE! While it’s fashionable to hate Kara (and I agree that she is annoying), she has offered the most articulate, constructive, and insightful comments this season. She seems to have really settled in and is now doing a good job. Amazing.

    • Nanci

      Don’t get all crazy. She’s just okay. Don’t confuse better with good.

      • Ella

        Kara is a bit better than lost season, but far from “good”.

      • Angelo Barovier

        I hope you meant to type “better than LOST season” and not “better than this season of LOST.” Cuz, dudette, yer in EW country and blaspheming LOST is commentary suicide. Smokey gon’ getchya.

      • Angelo Barovier

        Har har! “better than LAST season” I meant. Oh, no, I zink I just let slip my own fandom. Damn you, Sigmund!

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