In all my time recapping Lost, I have never encountered an episode more challenging to write about than “He’s Our You. Read the full post.
Mar 26
2009
12:25 PM ET
'Lost': Where the heck is the recap?!
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I add my own little twist to Lost in my blog:
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/culture/finding-the-moshiach-in-lost/
I need my recap!!
Wll Ben again be saved by our wonderful Dr. Jack? and will Lil Ben say tyhat it was Jin that shot him?
I wonder if the powers that be might not be messing with us (WHAT?!) by having young Ben say “I hated him” but having the closed captioning say “I hate it here.” Surely confusion on the past/present status of Ben’s fraught relationnship with his father can’t be just a coincidence.
Also, I think ben is dead–shot at close range by an experienced assasin, although i do like the speculation that Richard may be able to come in and save him–one of the few scenarios that make sense. I agree that if they don’t handle this believably, this wonderful show will have jumped the shark with this episode. It will be interesting to see how they work it out. I think they wouldn’t have done this if they couldn’t make it make sense.
P.S. D0c–If you see this–have you read Einstein’s Dreams? Short and elegantly written and serves up a number of alternate reality thought experiments as imagined by Mr. Albert. Get well soon.
Also, talking about your indigestion has lead to the sponsored links on this page to populate fat loss and colitis medication. Destiny? Fate? Free Will? Algorhythms?
Anne, he did say “I hate it here”. My wife and I heard “I hated dad” too, but I went back and listened. It is “I hate it here”.
In last weeks episode Namaste, the numbers 4,8,15,16 are being heard in the background when Lapidus lands the plane in 2007. The must be the result of Ben being killed in 1977, because Rosseau never replaced the recording in the radio tower. And many other events never took place.
See full explanation in the following recap.
http://blog.zap2it.com/ithappenedlastnight/2009/03/the-shot-heard-round-the-lost-world-.html
I’m with you Mare: Don’t you see that 2007 and 1977 are not “the same time”? Can you not be sick in your bed at age 10, nearly dying with fever, and then perfectly healthy and in the Bahamas 30 years later, having recovered from the fever when you were 10?
This may be a bit of a stretch (and probably a “cheat” by the Lost writers) but since Sayid was given LSD (or something similar) is it possible that everything that happened after that in the episode was Sayid’s halucination? Maybe under interogation he merely reported he would like to kill Ben which caused him to hallucinate it. That would answer how Ben could have been around in 2007 and still be “shoot” in 1977 … though it’s getting into Bobby-Ewing-in-the-shower territory.
Young Ben survives the shooting and grows up to be the Ben we know from every other episode. It’s as simple as that.
Jack’s going to save young Ben, thus solidifying him as the most frustrating character on the show. I’d love to see Ben die, and see what that does to the future, but what are the odds that Lost writers would do that. Ben is too important to the show and ratings. We all love to hate him.
The “rules” of time travel are complete supposition, since nobody has discovered time travel…that we know of, anyway.
However, aside from the issue of Ben being on the island in 1977 and 2007–which are two different times, so no paradox exists, IMO–does anyone remember that during the time flashes, Sawyer saw Kate helping Claire give birth to Aaron? Presumably, “present Sawyer” didn’t disappear from wherever he was when “future Sawyer” appeared.
There are A LOT of theories on here and I haven’t had time to read them all, but here’s mine. Hope it isn’t a repeat. I agree with most on here that Ben posed as a grieving family member of one of Sayid’s victims and hired the bounty hunter to get him on that plane. I also believe that Ben cultivated Sayid into become a killer so that he would eventially attempt to kill little Ben in the past. I have a feeling that this near death experience is exactly what Ben needs and wants in order for him to get “in” with the Others. Remember when Ben shot John Locke and left him for dead? Not only did the island save him but he became the new “leader” of the Others soon after. I think that Ben needed Jack and Kate to return to the island so that Kate could convince Jack to save little Ben’s life so that he could eventually become that leader of the Others. A case of history repeating… or should I say history pre-repeating?
Nicely said, Melinda. If you’re referring to my earlier reference to the “rules” of time travel, I did say “Lost rules of time travel.” As opposed to, say, “Terminator rules of time travel.” Obvs there are no “real” rules of time travel (that we know of yet, anyway). According to Lost time travel rules, people can be in two different places at the same time, or, as you point out so nicely, the same place at the same time (815 Survivor Sawyer on the Island and Time-Skipping Sawyer on the Island, both there on the night Boone died and Aaron was born).
When Faraday Time traveled to when desmond was in the hatch, he beat on the door til desmond answered in the quarantine suit. Faraday told him to find his mother to help them with their Island time traveling situation. Desmond woke up in the future as if it was all a dream accept “not a dream”. This would go against the theiry of Ben knowing he was going to get shot pre-maturely….Unless ofcourse Richard tells him.