Feb 15 2008 10:33 PM ET

Why must designers and singers always "stretch"?

Rami_lDuring this week’s Project Runway Great Drape Debate — was Rami wrong to design yet another Grecian dress for the judges? — I resurrected an internal debate of my own. Should contestants on talent-based reality series be forced to do something that in no way represents what she or he will do in real life, post-show? I haven’t looked at the photos from last week’s Project Runway finale fashion show in Bryant Park because I don’t want the spoilers, but it’d be a shame if Rami designed his entire collection — an opportunity to establish his identity in the industry — without his signature look just to make Nina Garcia happy. Before you slap me, know that I, too, was bored by Rami’s dress this week. I just think there had to have been a way for him to stay in the Greek and Roman gallery and still wow the panel like he did with his first Runway dress (pictured, left).

Of course, I get that shows need drama for good TV, and most often, that involves pushing people outside their comfort zone. But sometimes it seems wrong to force them there, then turn around and say, "You suck." It bothers me infinitely more on American Idol, when I have to sit through a rocker singing a standard or a country song poorly, and then listen to Simon and co. say that it wasn’t his best night. Really? You could argue that true artists find a way to make any genre their own, and I can buy that. But these are not established artists we’re seeing. Occasionally, couldn’t they have the chance to perfect something, instead of being forced to try everything? What do you think?

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  • jessica

    I TOTALLY agree especially where Idol is concerned. Would a rock fan really want to eventually pay to see their “idol” and watch them sing Celine Dion or something. Yeah it might seem to make for good tv but it’s not realistic.

  • jessica

    I TOTALLY agree especially where Idol is concerned. Would a rock fan really want to eventually pay to see their “idol” and watch them sing Celine Dion or something. Yeah it might seem to make for good tv but it’s not realistic.

  • nunya

    quite simply, i agree. no one should tell anyone how to hone their creative abilities. i personally love rami’s draping, and i think he should make it his signature, if he hasn’t done so already.

  • Sue

    I agree, and I’ve often had the same thought on both PR and Top Chef. (Chefs often focus on a certain type of cuisine, but on that show, they get pegged for “always doing spanish food” or “too much with foams” or “you can only do comfort foods”.) Designers often go through phases – look at any designer’s collection and you’ll see that they’re into a certain shade of blue right now, or long skirts or something. But on PR, it’s a fault, because contestants are supposed to be versatile. (This even happens on America’s Next Top Model – is one model really going to be edgy AND commercial, good for print ads AND runway? Unlikely.)

  • Ceballos

    Personally, I don’t mind so much that Rami has draped something in pretty much every challenge, and I don’t even think the judges mind that much (even though incoporating draping into a wrestling outfit is ridiculous)
    It’s more that, he’s just not coming up with designs that are good, creative or dramatic enough. For example, Christian certainly has a propensity for retro-futuristic jackets, but every week his designs are innovative enough to stop them from becoming redundant and boring.
    The problem is that I can pretty much imagine what Rami’s outfit is going to look like before he starts making it.

  • Snarf

    The old saying “Jack of all trades, master of none” ring any bells?

  • George

    I dunno, I kind of like performers/creative people who have a variety of tricks and can change things up when one style gets tired. They never rest on their laurels — they are always learning and venturing into new things. Just think of the Beatles.

  • Anonymous

    I looked, and Rami’s collection was by far the most boring. Even Sweet Pea’s was lovely. Rami and the dull draping dresses in the muted jewel tones. Ugh. I’m glad he got booted at the end. Chris March kicked his butt all over Fashion Week (color me shocked… and happy).

  • Tim

    The fact is that this is a contest to find the person that best fits the parameters of the contest. Project Runway certainly has some out there and tough challenges, but a lot of the time, they *do* have a point and will help and influece the designers in the future. And, to be honest, being a dull and one-note designer like Rami might keep him making a few award show dresses and a modest income, but it won’t make an accmplished career (or the real $$$).

  • b2obo5

    I love her very much. I heard from my friends that she joined celebrities and wealthy club “Searching Millionaire dot com”. recently. I really expected that I could meet her there.If so, I could share my ideas with her.

  • gato

    Rami is soooooooooooooo fine

  • Alyson

    PR is supposedly looking for the next great American designer, and part of the job of a “great” designer is to use their talents and vision to inspire fashion and the folks participating in fashion – from the consumers to the next wave of designers. For a designer to keep doing the same things over and over again that have clearly been executed for thousands of years seems boring and off the mark. Yeah, he drapes really well, but he’s not adding much creative nuance or broad vision to the fashion community with his work. I think it’s perfectly legitimate for Nina to criticize him.

  • Alyson

    Of course, I say this as a person who wears jeans and cardigans and watches Project Runway in pajamas every week. I know nothing of fashion.

  • Benjamin

    I would agree … except that Christian for example always does outifts that are very him and yet finds a way to fit them into the challenge and they always feel fresh. I guess that’s the difference between a good designer and a great designer (I am not saying that to shill for Christian … just saying he has succeeded at making new outfits that don’t feel like they are all the same all the while staying true to himself and his style). You can tell what it is he has done when you watch the runway but it doesn’t feel like you have seen it before.
    Rami should find a way to mix it up. Even Jillian’s style is always recognizable and yet I never feel I have seen any outfit before. She is slightly less successful than Christian but she does it.
    Which is why those two should be the final two.
    However, regarding Idol, I sort of kind of tend to agree.

  • Jenners

    I definitely think the judges are correct to want something more from Rami. His greek draping outfits all look the same and are so boring. None of his looks subsequent to the first challenge brought out a new or innovative way to drape fabric. To contrast, Christian always does a variation of tailored jackets, but each week his designs build on the theme and make it into something better and new. The same can be said about Jillian’s tailored long coats and girly skirts and dresses. They never feel stagnant; you get a feeling of progression from looking at them in succession. Having seen the final collections, Rami hardly used jersey draping at all And while his first 10 or so looks were middling, his gowns were breathtaking. And he did do a gown with braided bodice and draping that was lovely and took his previously boring aesthetic to a new level.

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