A few weeks ago, my colleague Simon Vozick-Levinson posted a PopWatch item wondering if the first-week sales totals for Josh Groban’s Noël — 669,000 copies sold — were just one digit off from indicating the bombastic young singer had a close and personal relationship with Satan. (The record went on to sell more than 3 million copies, making it the highest-selling album of 2007.) Nearly 100 of you responded, many violently, defending the singer and calling poor Simon a variety of not-so-nice names.
Whether Simon deserved it for poking the wasp’s nest is beside the point. All I know is that when I heard Groban would be performing a small acoustic show here at Sundance, I had to grab a couple minutes with him to get to the bottom of his fans and their devoted behavior. After the jump, my exceedingly pleasant — and dare I say opinion-altering — conversation with the man himself, in which he discusses fan loyalty, his plans for the Grammys, the surprise success of Noël, and moving away from "the glossy thing."
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What the hell are you doing atSundance?
JOSH GROBAN: Oh man. Just FREE STUFF. No. I canceled all myswag suites to go see movies, and I’m glad I did.
What was the best thing you saw?
I was expecting to like the Patti Smith documentary [Patti Smith: Dream of Life] morethan I did. I was really giddy to see it, because I love who she is on stageand was looking forward to seeing who she is offstage, but it just lackedstructure, it was too long, it was a little bit self-indulgent.
And I heard it wasn’t much about the ’70s.
But there’s such a story there! And that’s the thing, even adocumentary is still a story, and it was just kind of like, She’s onstage, nowshe’s backstage…. It was interesting, and I liked watching the footage, but Iwould have liked to have known more about her family and the ’70s and all thethings she did to break those rules and become such an icon. And then I saw areally cute film a couple nights ago called The Deal, written by WilliamH. Macy. I thought it was really funny, and I love William H. Macy. Meg Ryanand LL Cool J are great in it, too.
How long have you been here?
Four or five days? The official reason I’m here is cause I’msinging.
Wait, you sing?
Uh. I’m starting to get into that a little bit. You know. Ican’t be a drummer forever. My band’s not too happy about that, but there’s avoice in me, and I know I can get it out.
There was some rumor on the Internet that you were heredoing a concert for Brad Pitt last night?
I heard that rumor, too. I love that rumor. I’ll take it.No, I think at one point he was interested in showing up last night, but hecouldn’t make it. You know, he’s one half of Brangelina. He’s a busy man.
He’s gotta save New Orleans.
I’d much rather him be there than at my show. But anyway,last night we did a benefit for my foundation, and it was really fun, we raiseda lot of money.
What’s your foundation?
It’s just called the Josh Groban Foundation. It started twoyears ago through a check that my fans gave me backstage at a show for $25,000.They knew that I always sang for charities, they knew that was something thatwas part of my life, but I didn’t have my own foundation at that point. So theycame up to me and said, ”All this money that we’ve gathered, we want you tohave in your pocket. We want you to have a foundation.” So my mom and I havejust kind of been doing it. We’ve raised $2 million so far.
And what’s it benefiting?
Organizations that generally benefit children around theworld through music, health care, and education. We try to find those placesthat fall through the cracks, where a little bit goes a long, long way. Werefurbished an orphanage in Durban, South Africa. We found a place in L.A. called the South Central Gifted Scholars fund, which is for kids who areabsolutely brilliant in hopeless surroundings. It’s a combination of hometownstuff, giving back to the music education I had in Los Angeles, and then stuff we find aroundthe world.
You mentioned your fans, so I have to ask you about this:You fascinate me, because you’re this guy who obviously has this great sense ofhumor, and yet your fans tend to be a little humorless when defending you. [Grobanlaughs] Like, if anyone writes anything even hinting at making fun ofyou…
Is that NEW to you from fans? [Laughs]
But they’re a specific breed. You, Rascal Flatts, Clay Aiken— what is it about you that compels these people to be so overprotective?
Um… I don’t know. They’ve got my back for sure when itcomes to that stuff. It certainly isn’t on orders from me. They’re very passionateabout the music. Maybe it’s the fact that it was kind of a slow climb from thebeginning. This wasn’t something that people wanted to pay much attention to,so my fans were very much grassroots. It spread because they were the onesgetting someone else to listen, stomping the sidewalk, because I was neverreally a press darling. And slowly but surely, we’ve made our mark. And I wishI could kind of tell them, ”I’m okay now. I can take care of myself. I don’tmind a little jab now and then.”
A colleague of mine wrote something alleging that the669,000 records you sold the first week of Noël were one flipped digitaway from the mark of the devil — 666 — so his theory was that Josh Groban isin cahoots with Satan.
Clever. [Giggles]
Kind of mean, but funny. But so he got dozens of commentsdefending you. Someone wrote, ”Who the heck do you think you are, writing thisgarbage? Oh, and for the people that say you hate Josh’s music or whatever, Ipity you, your shriveled up from rap-crap brain, and your bleeding ears.”
Yeah. Well, every fan is their own individual with their ownbrain. I can’t take responsibility for anything they say or write.
Does it make you feel more self-conscious about not wantingto disappoint them, because you know they are so dedicated?
I know that whether or not I disappoint them has everythingto do with music, and nothing to do with whether EW writes something snarkyabout me. So I know that my position with them is that I’m gonna just keepmaking music that I like, and they like, and we’ll just keep moving forward.Personally, I don’t give a rat’s ass what people write about me in magazines. They do. So they’re gonna write you. You’re not going to geta letter from me, though. [Laughs]
Noël did end up selling more records than anything onthe planet last year. Did you see that coming? It’s just Christmas carols.
Not at all. It was a surprise. But all the ducks lined up.It gave me an opportunity to sing melodies that were really right for my voice,we had the opportunity to work with the London Symphony at Abbey Road, and whether you’re a fan ofChristmas music or not, these songs are absolutely gorgeous. I’d already had agreat year on tour, so the album was a gift for the fans, a chestnut I recordedfor them. It became a perfect storm. I was in Europe doing promotion for otherstuff when that came out in America,and was getting the numbers every week, and it absolutely boggled my mind. Iwas thinking, Really? Because Ididn’t expect ANYONE to sell those numbers anymore, least of all me.
What are your Grammy plans? Lots of rumors there, too.
I have been in talks with everyone at the Grammys, andcertainly everyone there has always been really supportive of me. And we’llsee. I don’t feel I have any right to talk about it if it’s not set in stoneyet, but there’s something that possibly might happen.
And you’re gonna be in town regardless?
Yeah. It’ll be my first time at the Grammys since I stood in with Celine [Dion] when I was 17, so that’ll be a nice moment for me.
Maybe they won’t make you sing opera this time.
[Laughs] They might.
I was scanning your Wikipedia page on my way over here, andit said your influences include Radiohead and Björk. For the hipsters whoaren’t as familiar with your music, can you point to where they can hear thoseinfluences? They might like that.
I think the influence I get from them is not so much a sonicone, but the idea that they went into a genre that had a specific identity, andthey broke that identity. They are genre-less. You go to a Björk concertbecause you like Björk, not because you’re an electronica fan. You go becauseshe has a personality, and she has a voice and a pathos that is unique fromanybody else. Radiohead did the same thing with rock and roll. They dismantledthe genre and made it their own. And I think more and more in this day and age,when record labels have a gun to their head, and everybody’s trying to get intocookie cutter mode and radio has become so much more compressed nonsense, I’minspired by anybody that wasn’t afraid to go out there and do it the hard way.And even though what I do is extraordinarily different from them, I think it’sbeen really fun for me to kind of do it that way, and kind of scoff at anybodywho couldn’t put us in a category and got mad at it. If I can see 10 years downthe road that somebody would say, ”I like Josh just for Josh” — not becausethey’re into whatever genre they’ve put me in at the moment — then that wouldbe successful for me. That said, I kind of like to dip into electronic music. Ihad a great time working with Imogen Heap on the last album, and people like[producer] Marius de Vries, who worked with Rufus Wainwright and David Gray.Through them, I’m having a really fun and interesting time using my voice indifferent ways, and surrounding it with not so much the glossy thing, buttrying to let it just be a little more naked.
Okay, last thing. I was once at the Rockefeller Centerskating rink with my mother, and three times in a row, they played ”You RaiseMe Up” as some dude proposed to his girlfriend in the middle of the ice.
Really?
Like, the song would come on, some guy would propose, thesong would end, and then I am not kidding you, it would start right back upagain as some other dude proposed.
No.
And by the third person, we were like, this is ridiculous.
Seriously, yeah.
So my question is, How do I get that song out of my head?
[Laughs] I don’t know! If I could tell you that, canyou tell me how to get ”You’re Beautiful” out of my head? That’s the thingabout a hit song. I will never be able to get away without singing that song onstage. It’s just a damn near perfect song as far as its universal appeal. Itcan be about a friend, about getting engaged — anybody can listen to that song,and not only is the melody sweeping and beautiful, but the lyric is poignantbut generic enough to let anybody put their own story to it. And again, it wasa surprise for us. And I’m always flattered. You get the negative letters, Iget the ones from people saying, ”I got engaged to that song.” So. [Laughs,possibly at Simon's expense]
And that’s why Josh Groban’s life is better than mine.
No! [Laughs]








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And that is why I like Josh Groban.
I know my love for his music is that his voice is just so beautiful. It is an amazing instrument and a gift. It is really as simple as that. I bought the Christmas CD and love it. And then I went to my in-laws for Christmas and they were playing it!
I am guessing Michael Buble fans feel the same way about him. I have his CDs in constant rotation as well. I LOVE his voice and the arrangements of the songs. They both have incredible voices – one more operatic and the other an updated big band/classic pop voice.
And then I love Barbra Steisand, Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra…all singers who are distinct and creative and know how to make a song their own.
I think the appeal of his “Noel” album is very simple – a beautiful voice singing beautiful songs. We listened to it throughout December and it was really a wonderful part of our Christmas season. Thanks, Whitney, for the snark-free post that shows he’s a talented, intelligent, charming, funny guy. “I can’t be a drummer forever” – LOL!
Hate to be a mensch , but “my colleague Simon…”, not college.
oops. thanks, whimsey. sundance has apparently robbed me of my ability to spell. nice catch.
Josh Groban is very talented. I know the Satan jab is meant to be funny, but I doubt seriously he is into the occult. I am glad to hear of his success. He looks so adorable with his longer hair.
Thanks for a “non-cookie cutter” interview with JG.. I love his music and for the record not all his fan write nasty comments!
I know he can take care of himself and if he can’t that’s what he pays his PR people for…LOL
As for “You Raise Me Up”…. I danced to that song with my dad @ my wedding…
As far as I’m concerned, Clay Aiken, Michael Buble & yeah, Josh Groban are the 3 best singers on the planet. Their fans love them & defend them because they are constantly being degraded by the “cool” kids in power. I’ve never written a letter, but I’ve wanted to. Usually, I just remind myself how inconsequential the bashes are to Clay, Michael & Josh & how wonderful their lives are. The media peons & those who wallow in celebrity trash could only hope to make as much of a difference in the lives of others as these 3 incredible men do every day.
[ And I wish I could kind of tell them, ''I'm okay now. I can take care of myself. I don't mind a little jab now and then.'']
Thanks, for giving him a chance to tell his fans that! LOL And he even GIVES jab now and then…as this article shows.
Interesting interview. Thanks. And now ya know, talent and charm – what’s not to like?
WOW!!! well don’t know what to say except…that’s simply Josh. Hope you had fun in Park City Josh!!!
HA! Who knew he was so funny? Well, I didn’t at any rate. Great interview.
Well, color me surprised–he’s funny! Who knew?
Plus ten points to Josh Groban.
Great interview!
Wow! That’s awesome!
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there is nothing remotely exciting about this man. snooze.
thanks! I love the give and take of this interview. Groban has a wicked sense of humor and a sharp wit – a side of him I much prefer to the “glossy”. David Foster, in the early days, said “this kid’s for real” – how apt in all contexts.
Good interview good interniewee. Pity some of his more die hard fans apparently don’t share the same intellect or sense of humour. And que the rightous indignation in one…two…three….
Great interview Josh. Josh is just Josh! He has such a sense of humor and is so articulate. He doesn’t let the stress of his growing career get to him and continues to remain true to himself. I think the fans are so protective of him because he was so young when he started and the fans just worked so hard with promoting him, and we still do, that we think he is ours. Lol, we’d fight a bear for our Josh. We forget, he is older and can fight for himself now. I do think fans can better promote Josh without writing letters that get too ugly. We can express our concerns in a professional way, and not bring negative publicity to Josh.
i really like this interview! it covered some new things and Josh is such a sweetheart!
I LOVE JOSH GROBAN!!
Anyone who didn’t know Josh was funny has never seen a live show or met him. He is one of the sweetest, funniest, most genuine people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting!
The live show is what gets you. You can listen to his music as much as you want, but until you see him live and see his electrifying personality you just don’t get it…
If you ever get a chance to see him,do it…you won’t regret it!
”I’m okay now. I can take care of myself. I don’t mind a little jab now and then.” I like this quote. I’ve been a fan since the first CD, and I totally agree with him. I do get a bit angry when people write negative things about his music, or the style, but al of us fans need to learn that Josh isn’t the new artist whose career could be crushed by a single bad article. He can stand on his own. Sometimes I get embarrassed when other grobanites attack writers of negative articles, because it just make us as a group look foolish. Hopefully now that it has come from Josh’s own mouth the Grobanites will back down. We don’t want to be the laughingstock of music fan groups, I swear.
“If I can see 10 years down the road that somebody would say, ‘I like Josh just for Josh’ — not because they’re into whatever genre they’ve put me in at the moment — then that would be successful for me.”
I’ve said this for about six or seven years now. Can’t imagine things will be any different in ten, twenty or thirty years from now. It’s a musical love story for the ages.
Actually, I just thought of an appropriate anecdote addendum to my comment below.
A few years ago I taught high school in one tought neighborhood. I took a lot of ribbing for my musical taste. I made a deal with any of them to trade during breaks, and some would take me up on it. I think I heard more gangsta rap than any other middle aged woman in America. “You Raise Me Up,” even in all it’s glorious emotional cheesiness, miraculously reached out and touched one of those young women. She’d listen to it every day, even though she played her enthusiasm stone-cold cool to others.
When I took a bunch of younger kids to see Josh in concert, one of the kids got strep the night before the show and coudn’t go. I offered the seat to my high schooler. I figured she’d accept, although casually. I didn’t expect her to flip out in anticipation! In the end, my gang bangers may not have prefered Josh to 50 Cent, but most came to respect his product. Too bad some “journalists” can’t do the same.
I think the only way that hipsters would cut him any slack if his next cd was experimental. He says he likes Bjork and Radiohead why not change up his sound. If his fans don’t like it and decide to not like him anymore then they really were not his fans to begin with.
I’ze loved Josh Groban from the start.The most amazing and beautiful voice I have ever heard and a personality to match.His legion of fans will follow him and support him as long as he lives and beyond regardless of what some “jornalists?” might say.We LOVE you,Josh,for just being JOSH!We are happily anticipating your next cd and all the new music you come up with,I know it will be amazing and simply JOSH. Jan W.
Re: About Josh — did you not just read the interview? His influences aren’t so much about the sound as what they did in their repsective industries. So what if the hipsters don’t seem to like him? He seems to be doing okay…
Funny, nice, and can hold his own against Celine? Impressed. And yes, even I red-facedly bought his CD Noël this Christmas (“for my neice” *cough cough*) and loved loved LOVED it. Like grandma said, “Talent will out.” Damn grandma, always right!
Josh’s fans are incredibly rabid, and I wish they could lighten up a tad. Josh is no doubt brilliantly talented, but he’s just so aw-shucks, earnest, and naive sounding that it’s hard not to poke fun. Plus he looks like a King Charles spaniel. See, I can’t help myself. http://www.thriftyfun.com/images/petguides/CavalierKingCharles300×450.jpg
Most people who bash Josh can’t even carry a tune. He is laughing all the way to the bank.
His voice is wonderful. The so-called cool kids are mostly drips anyway.