Comments on: What’s missing from EW’s ‘Sci-Fi 25′ list?

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By: k

Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:35:50 +0000

Ooh, while I’m at it, here’s my list of shows that totally fail at science, fiction and acting:
- Andromeda
- Eureka
- Stargate Atlantis (SG-1 at least has some self-irony, Atlantis is so serious about itself it hurts)
- Heroes
(Torchwood started out okay, but then degenerated quickly. Not sure where it’ll end up.)
I have wasted my time on these, so that you don’t have to

By: k

Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:23:34 +0000

One thing that take away all credibility from the list though, is the inclusion of Heroes. That show must be the worst attempt at sci-fi I’ve ever seen. I gave it the benefit of the doubt and watched through the season one finale _hoping_ for a speck of self-irony (“Save the Cheerleader, Save the World!” ugh), a hint of intelligence or character development, but after the finale I had to give up on it. Who the heck throws a nuke _up_ into the sky in order to save people from it? Nukes kill more people the more altitude they have when they explode. Do some research… and that whole salad-stepping evolution talk; If you don’t know the first thing about science, you shouldn’t be writing sci-fi! (Or at the very least, write surreal stuff like Lexx, which doesn’t rely on bad science science it neatly side-steps it.)

By: k

Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:19:29 +0000

Stargate SG-1 was alright, but it’s not _good sci-fi_. Their science is just..wrong, they let all the aliens speak English, and they just went on for too long. (And don’t get me started on Atlantis..*shudder*)
Battlestar Galactica and Firefly must be some of the best series I’ve ever seen; solid character development, intelligent use of technology without taking too many assumptions, and well-developed worlds. I’d recommend those two series to anyone.
I also love Doctor Who, but can see that not everyone would enjoy the style (it’s a bit…British?)
Props for putting Brazil up there, that must be one of my all-time favourite movies.

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By: Grainne Gillespie

Grainne Gillespie — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:19:26 +0000

You put dren like Firefly/Serenity and Dr Poo on your list, but left out Farscape? What’s wrong with you people?
To Jay: Buffy ain’t SciFi, it’s fantasty/horror

By: Alana Abbott

Alana Abbott — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:04:35 +0000

I read the top 15 (starting from the link someone on a Firefly mailing list sent me) and honestly, couldn’t find much to argue with. The ranking, maybe, but that could be a matter of taste. I didn’t see anything on the top 15 that didn’t belong there.
However, with lists like this, I’d love to see 1) a definition of sci-fi, and 2) a separate list for movies and television. I think movies impact the genre differently than serial storytelling–they’re really two different beasts. And if you did the top 15, even, from each one, you’d be opening up five more slots to make people happy.
As far as definition goes… there are several suggestions from the readers that are either fantasy or horror, in my book, and therefore wouldn’t make a science fiction list. (It would also clarify why Eternal Sunshine qualified and Buffy–really more traditionally horror or dark fantasy than science fiction–did not.)